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Talk about Capitals hockey & more! => Washington Capitals & Other Hockey Discussion => Topic started by: alta on Friday September 12, 2025, 08:27:52 PM Eastern
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Rookie camp started today in Annapolis. So, new season new thread. I dont make the rules.
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It appears everyone is %100 to start the season, except Fehιrvαry. Hes still recovering from the knee issue/surgery that had him miss the playoffs.
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TJ the hockey analyst..
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/09/12/tj-oshie-monumental-sports-network-contributor/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/09/12/tj-oshie-monumental-sports-network-contributor/)
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What you bored mf's up to? See the Redskins suck Thursday night? Just like old times!! :wackysmile: lol Caps better not pull that shit! :raised-eyebrow:
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What you bored mf's up to? See the Redskins suck Thursday night? Just like old times!! :wackysmile: lol Caps better not pull that shit! :raised-eyebrow:
I saw a preseason guess as to the position of the clubs this season, and the Caps were projected 4th in the Metropolitan Division, with the comment that they over performed as a team last season and will regress to the mean this year.
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I saw a preseason guess as to the position of the clubs this season, and the Caps were projected 4th in the Metropolitan Division, with the comment that they over performed as a team last season and will regress to the mean this year.
Probably accurate. Hope not though! But at some point, Ovi will stop scoring 30-40 goals and at that point I don't see where they make up the difference.. That's a lot of goals to make up for.
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So let's start the prediction of the Ovi goal count this year. I'll start with 23. I would actually like him to score more, but I want him to retire after this year and if he scores 30 or more, I think he comes back.
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The only thing of note Ive seen so far is this incident predates his employment with the Capitals.
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/09/14/mitch-love-capitals-team-imposed-leave-nhl-investigation/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/09/14/mitch-love-capitals-team-imposed-leave-nhl-investigation/)
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I expect the Caps will be worse this year. They did over-perform last year.
They will come in 3rd in division, but earn a wildcard spot
Ovi will score 32 goals this season
mitch love...oof i saw this but could not find any info on it.
and yes, bored AF, skins also over-performed last year I think, and the Nats...OOF.
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Rumor is they saw some text's of Mitch' that said he wanted to extend Carlson 3 more years.. :snicker: :raspberry:
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Got to get some....
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/giant-food-and-capitals-captain-alex-ovechkin-launch-limited-edition-ovi-s-great-crunch-cereal
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Happy Birthday you ole GOAT!
The Great 8 is now 40
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Camp technically started today, but wont be skating until tomorrow.
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/09/16/washington-capitals-roster-schedule-2025-training-camp/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/09/16/washington-capitals-roster-schedule-2025-training-camp/)
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Rumor is they saw some text's of Mitch' that said he wanted to extend Carlson 3 more years.. :snicker: :raspberry:
Ha! Good one!
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I saw a comment that Protas still isnt %100 after getting his foot cut last season, but hes close. And OV is not skating for the second day in row due to a lower body injury.
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Damn, Proti still isn't 100%?? Ovi's already injured? :raised-eyebrow: :'( Come on Milano!!! :rofl: We're probably gonna be a train wreck this year. But Im here for it!! :P
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Caps at Bruins Sunday at 5pm. The projected lines per Sammi..
Here's what the game group line combinations looked like. The lines are the order in which they skated.
Brandon Duhaime-Nic Dowd-Ethen Frank
Sonny Milano-Hendrix Lapierre-Anthony Beauvillier
Ivan Miroshnichenko-Henrik Rybinski-Bogdan Trineyev
Lynden Lakovic-Eriks Mateiko-Spencer Smallman
Declan Chisholm-Trevor van Riemsdyk
Calle Rosen-Vincent Iorio
Leon Muggli-Ryan Chesley
Logan Thompson
Garin Bjorklund
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I'm really just hoping for two things this year. First, that we see the emergence of some of our prospects including a couple that just shock us and unseat some veterans. I wasn't that impressed with Leonard at the end of last year, but it probably wasn't fair to him to throw him in like that. However, the thing that I was most disappointed in him, was his size. I thought he was a lot bigger and stronger. Maybe he will still grow a little, but he is definitely not big.
The other thing I am hoping for is that they just let the Carlson contract expire and give him a nice sendoff if he wants to keep playing. I'm mostly afraid that at the end of the year, that they will give him a one year deal, granted at much lower money, so he can "mentor" some guys. Not a good idea.
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Caps win preseason G1 5-2
https://www.dcbackcheck.com/p/takeaways-standouts-and-what-to-know (https://www.dcbackcheck.com/p/takeaways-standouts-and-what-to-know)
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I'm really just hoping for two things this year. First, that we see the emergence of some of our prospects including a couple that just shock us and unseat some veterans. I wasn't that impressed with Leonard at the end of last year, but it probably wasn't fair to him to throw him in like that. However, the thing that I was most disappointed in him, was his size. I thought he was a lot bigger and stronger. Maybe he will still grow a little, but he is definitely not big.
The other thing I am hoping for is that they just let the Carlson contract expire and give him a nice sendoff if he wants to keep playing. I'm mostly afraid that at the end of the year, that they will give him a one year deal, granted at much lower money, so he can "mentor" some guys. Not a good idea.
I watched some of the interviews from 1st or 2nd day of camp...someone asked Carlson if there were any talks with team about after this year he said NO. Then someone asked again later if gave any thought to future and he said "I'm definitely not done" so that gives a glimpse of what he is thinking.
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I missed the game, watched the 5 min highlights. TVR the only Cap with a negative +/- (-1). That's hard to do in a 5-2 win but i did see him on and looking lost for both the Boston goals
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https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/09/23/washington-capitals-first-training-camp-roster-cuts/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/09/23/washington-capitals-first-training-camp-roster-cuts/)
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Preseason game number two, Caps vs Flyers, will be in Hershey Thursday night..
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/protas-strome-brothers-set-to-play-together-for-capitals-preseason-game-in-hershey-full-combos (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/protas-strome-brothers-set-to-play-together-for-capitals-preseason-game-in-hershey-full-combos)
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Didnt even realize (or remember) Strome had a brother in Hershey.. Getting old is fun! No really.. :raised-eyebrow:
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Didnt even realize (or remember) Strome had a brother in Hershey.. Getting old is fun! No really.. :raised-eyebrow:
I think Matt is destined for AHL career...4th rounder in 2017 and is 26 years old, and I don't believe has ever played a NHL game.
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Tonights game in Hershey is being televised on Monumental. Pre game at 6pm, game at 7pm. The team website says the radio broadcast will be on 106.7, which is a possibility with the Nationals having the night off.
anticipated lines:
Miroshnichenko D. Strome Leonard
Cristall McMichael A. Protas
Milano Lapierre Frank
M. Strome I. Protas Sourdif
Sandin Roy
Chisholm McIlrath
Gucciardi Iorio
Lindgren
Stevenson
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So for all you rednecks (okay for you Mick)...
I was at my "new" brother in laws house in PA this past weekend for a wedding (Sorry Mick, my sis and he got married...so no more kissing my sister for you)
anyway....he has a mounted Elk that his son shot (with an arrow no less) couple years back in PA that is absolutely huge. He said it just under 1000 lbs.
PA has a lottery and issues about SIX elk tags a year - over 100k applicants and my brother in law's grown son was one of those lucky six a couple years ago.
I will get her to send me a pic and i will post it.
say bye to kissing my sister Mick :'(
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Its been a few years since Ive had elk steaks. There is a heard down in south west VA, expanding in from Kentucky. They are a state game animal, and no lottery for tags the last time I looked.
VA does have an elk lottery. And the game is not on 106.7.
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Looks like the Caps beat the Flyers 5-1
I saw highlights of Miro, Cristall, Milano and McMike goals. Not sure who got #5.
Rich, tell the sister congrats and I'll miss her. :raspberry:
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Milano had 2 goals Mick
I watched the game - it was a mismatch. Looked like the Flyers just didn't show or care. The Caps looked fantastic, but i dunno if the flyers just had young guys out or what, and their goalie was suspect and appeared very small in net - corners were open ALOT and we took advantage.
And it really was 6-1. Iorio put one in that hit the back bar and bounced out but the refs didn't see it. You could clearly see it on the replay, but they didnt have ref replay review so....no goal. The whole team was laughing about it.
All the the young guys with a legit shot at a spot are playing extremely well. Miro looks good, and skating stronger and definitely has a drive to go to the net. Lappy looks fantastic, Miro has been a sniper
I think on a team that had the room Cristal, Lappy, Miro and Milano would all get a spot. Hard to say just based on 2 preseason games, but Lappy and Milano certainly have earned one.
Miro and Cristal have looked really good too, but I think if nothing else their AHL eligibility will send them to Hershey. Not sure what that means for Leanord, but I assume he will play in the AHL.
We have all these super talented young guys, but they also all are pretty small....Leonard and Cristall, and even Miro, although Miro appears to have put on some weight without losing a step - he had a pretty power drive move goal last night.
Nice to see them doing well - not that it means anything. It really looked like it was Men vs boys last night...even though some of our men are still boys.
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Eek. Keep that shit away from us, please!!!
https://twitter.com/espn/status/1971605802688344142
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Man this team is LOADED with young talent. Great problem to have. Only two games in but seems to me Lappy and Milano have to make the squad, so that pretty much means most everyone else does not. I feel bad for the guys who have played really well, but ultimately will not make the Caps roster. Total of 23 roster spots available (if they can stay under salary cap)
Caps website roster (which means nothing) has 23 players listed currently including Frank, Leonard, Sourdif, and Milano
(thats 13 skaters, 8 D, 2 goalies)
I expect Milano will make the roster based on his play so far.
That leaves 2 spots for all these guys (assuming Leonard and Sourdif have to Earn a spot)
Lappy
Leonard
Sourdif
Cristal
Miro
Iorio (D) I'd like to see him make the team but I don't see how there is room
Chisolm (D)
I don't recall what the waivers rules are or exactly what status all these guys are. I know Lappy is no longer exempt so he is free pickins if Caps have to move him down to AHL.
I'm afraid we will lose Iorio to waiver if they send him down - but not sure his status. I'd like to see him replace TVR or Carlson when their contracts expire this year - or sooner (rather than signing them to a ridiculous extension for even a year or two)
TVR constantly surprises me with his effectiveness...he just looks like he's totally suspect to be beat like a drum but his stats show otherwise, but its a matter of time...another 1/2 step and he's toast.
Anyway, no wonder Hershey has such success, they are loaded with guys on the cusp of NHL status
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Eek. Keep that shit away from us, please!!!
https://twitter.com/espn/status/1971605802688344142 (https://twitter.com/espn/status/1971605802688344142)
Wow, that's a serious blow, and they missing Tkachuck for 1/2 the season too.
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Preseason game 3, Caps at Devils at 3pm. Expected lines per Sammi..
A. Protas-Dubois-Leonard
Duhaime-I. Protas-Sourdif
Cristall-Mateiko-Clarke
Parascak-Thomas-Trineyev
Chychrun-TVR
Sandin-McIlrath
Belpedio-Allen
Lindgren
Thompson
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Lindgren looked good today, as did Leonard. Too many penalties though.
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When's the season start? Redskins and JGR giving me anxiety. :raised-eyebrow:
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People still watch the nfl :huh:
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There are still Redskins? :huh:
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Caps looked good
mostly. Too many penalties, but tbh couple them were weak ass calls.
Leonard had a great drive the net goal plus 1 in SO
Cristall did the goalie dirty in the SO
I think I saw Sourdif and Chisholm been cut.
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Listen, when I quit calling them the Redskins, I quit entirely. :raspberry:
This, they say is nothing, but that's how you get cut.. If ya can't stay healthy what good are ya?
https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/1972651484052611539
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oh sucks for Milano. He's played well enough to get a spot, but man there are ALOT of dogs barking at his heals - he can't afford to be fragile.
Although from what I hear its minor and they are not worried about his status.
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i read somewhere - almost 100% sure it was El-Bashir reported very late Sunday night that Sourdiff and Chisolm have been cut, but I sure have not seen it reported anywhere since, and Chisolm is listed on tonight's game roster so...El-Bashir made a boo-boo Sunday night
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2GX0ecWYAAQB_P?format=jpg&name=medium (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2GX0ecWYAAQB_P?format=jpg&name=medium)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2GX0ecWYAAQB_P?format=jpg&name=small)
Three guys cut this morning: Terik Parasak, Cam Allen, Patrick Thomas
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2GHz-5XQAAg30C?format=jpg&name=small)
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After this mornings skate, coach said Milano should be back to business. Not sure what that means, business for last year has been 10 games.
With the Nationals season over and this not being an NFL game night, I suppose there is a chance in hell that the Caps will actually be on 106.7. We shall see.
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Caps website roster (certainly not updated or accurate) shows: Frank, Leonard, Sourdiff, Milano listed, but not Lappy. I assume this is the roster at end of last season
I would think based on performance thus far that Lappy and Milano, as well as Leonard make the squad, leaving two F spots open (with a 23 man, 13F, 8D, 2G roster).
I don't now where they stand with Sourdiff - he would have to clear waivers to go to AHL. Well I've heard that said, but i don't understand why that is - he is only 23 and has played only 4 NHL games. According to the waiver rules I read, he falls into a waiver exempt category. NHL waiver exemption chart:
(https://thehockeywriters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/WAIVEelig.jpg)
So that's leaves 2 spots left for whole bunch of hopefuls: (assuming Milano, Lappy, Leonard made the NHL squad)
Frank
Sourdiff
Miroshnechenko
Cristall
Protas v2.0
(I didn't list everyone, but only the top names being tossed about)
I figure Protas does not make the NHL squad - he's 19 and not yet played his first pro season. I expect he plays Hershey this season to get some more experience. He certainly did tear up the WHL last year.
Cristal has played very well and looks very good, but he also played WHL last year and his size is a disadvantage. He had an excellent camp last year too and was one of very last guys cut.
Frank - Do we assume he has a roster spot? I dunno, he might be a casualty if Cristall and Miro keep playing well.
Sourdiff - they seem high on him (or did this summer spending 2 draft picks) but he has been less noticeable to me than several others. Maybe he's just not flashy, but he has not stood out to me.
Miro - he has played pretty well also, made some plays, and show more physicality this year, and getting in good spaces and working hard.
It's interesting Miro, Frank, Cristall, Lappy, Protas are all skating tonight. Leonard not skating tells me he's made the NHL squad
On the D side...as far as i can tell Chisolm and Iorio have only shot at making the NHL squad (Carlson, Chicklets, Fever, Roy, TVR, Sundin, BigMac makes 7D already)
But then, WTF do I know? I know I'm enjoying this preseason and the prospects trying to make the team more than i have before though. Maybe I was just extra bored this offseason.
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Yikes. $17mil per year makes him highest paid NHL player I believe
https://www.nhl.com/news/kirill-kaprizov-signs-eight-year-136-million-contract-with-minnesota-wild
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Last season Draisaitl was the highest paid at $14M per. The current salary and cap numbers wont get updated until opening day on October 7. I forget when the roster needs to be finalized, the same day or the day before.
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Oh yeah, that's an important point...That Kaprisov contract goes into effect NEXT season...he has 1 year left on his current deal.
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Pre season game 4 Caps at Blue Jackets, no pre game on the radio so dont know about that yet.
Lines per Caps ..
Beauvillier - Strome - Frank
Miroshnichenko - McMichael - Wilson
Cristall - Lapierre - Rempal
Rybinski - I. Protas - Trineyev
Chisholm - Carlson
McIlrath - Roy
Gucciardi - Iorio
Thompson
Lindgren
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I saw the list of the second round of cuts. Sourdiff and Chisolm were not on the list.
interestingly, Carbery said today that the Blue Jackets have made virtually all their cuts and are down to 25 players in camp; the Caps still have over 50. Carbery attributed this to Columbus having had a front-loaded exhibition game schedule, so they've already made almost all their roster decisions.
Which also means that the Caps' motley crew tonight is facing basically the Blue Jackets' NHL roster.
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Efing zebras. That extra 10 against Wilson was bovine excrement.
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https://thehockeynews.com/news/latest-news/evgeny-kuznetsov-shuts-down-nhl-return-returns-to-russia#google_vignette (https://thehockeynews.com/news/latest-news/evgeny-kuznetsov-shuts-down-nhl-return-returns-to-russia#google_vignette)
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Nice win. Again, too many penalties, but damn some of those are phantoms. The Carlson high-sticking, which was actually McMike....I don't think the stick actually touched him...I think the dude was faking. I know all it takes is a tap on the helmet to draw, but it looked like a miss and a Crosby-esque acting job. I wanted a better look at it but they didn't want to show me.
Same as the hooking on ...Roy? I think. Dude reaches in with stick and it slides up opponent's stick and literally taps his hands. They need to fix this BS call. Hooking or slashing should only be called if you actually affect the player you are reaching in on. The simple fact that your stick makes contact with a player should not be a penalty IMO. Pretty soon they will be calling a lift check slashing or hooking.
Cristall looked good and scored, yet again. Lappy looked good. Protas looked good as well.
If you factor nothing but game performance we've seen, I'd say Cristall makes the NHL squad. We don't seem them in practice, but the kid is scoring.
I think based on other factors (like who is waiver exempt) might send both Protas and Cristall to Hershey.
I expect Protas, with only one season in major junior (OHL/WHL) will go to Hershey. Cristall is only 20 but has 4+ seasons in WHL (started at age 17) so he will certainly at least go to Hershey if he doesn't make the NHL squad. His size (167lbs) is holding him back.
The problem is....where would Cristall play on the Caps roster? Putting him on 4th line would be a waste. I guess you could put him on L3 with Lappy at C, but that's not much beef or experience on 2/3 of that line.
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What's the deal with Monumental and not broadcasting the games this year? Have they solved their beef with (whoever)??
Actually, might not apply to you guys.. Hulu (me) and YoutubeTV have both dropped Monumental as of yesterday... Couldn't "reach a deal". I love greedy fucking execs. >:(
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What's the deal with Monumental and not broadcasting the games this year? Have they solved their beef with (whoever)??
I've watched all the games on Monumental. What you smoking down there redneck?
Their beef is with HULU, who wont pickup Monumental even though Monumental is an independent sports network. Everyone else (DirecTV, Cox, etc) has picked them up, but that F'n HULU don't want em. I think that might affect 4-6 games over the season. But hell...since when did what I think matter to anyone but me?
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Yea, Hulu and YoutubeTV both dropped Monumental cause they "couldn't reach an agreement". I'll be cancelling HULU here shortly! :) Fucking assholes. I'll start stealing every god damn thing I watch if this keeps up! :snicker:
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All these streaming services make no sense, and I get accused of being a boomer for saying that. Ive got to pay for a cable subscription to get the (mostly) reliable high speed internet. Paying for cable TV to get all the sports channels plus the five other channels I watch costs about the same as paying for 6-8 streaming services to get the same options. And lucky me, paramount + is included in the cable bill. Ive never watched it.
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Nice win. Again, too many penalties, but damn some of those are phantoms. The Carlson high-sticking, which was actually McMike....I don't think the stick actually touched him...I think the dude was faking. I know all it takes is a tap on the helmet to draw, but it looked like a miss and a Crosby-esque acting job. I wanted a better look at it but they didn't want to show me.
Same as the hooking on ...Roy? I think. Dude reaches in with stick and it slides up opponent's stick and literally taps his hands. They need to fix this BS call. Hooking or slashing should only be called if you actually affect the player you are reaching in on. The simple fact that your stick makes contact with a player should not be a penalty IMO. Pretty soon they will be calling a lift check slashing or hooking.
Cristall looked good and scored, yet again. Lappy looked good. Protas looked good as well.
If you factor nothing but game performance we've seen, I'd say Cristall makes the NHL squad. We don't seem them in practice, but the kid is scoring.
I think based on other factors (like who is waiver exempt) might send both Protas and Cristall to Hershey.
I expect Protas, with only one season in major junior (OHL/WHL) will go to Hershey. Cristall is only 20 but has 4+ seasons in WHL (started at age 17) so he will certainly at least go to Hershey if he doesn't make the NHL squad. His size (167lbs) is holding him back.
The problem is....where would Cristall play on the Caps roster? Putting him on 4th line would be a waste. I guess you could put him on L3 with Lappy at C, but that's not much beef or experience on 2/3 of that line.
I don't think Cristall weighs 167 pounds any more. I watched a postgame interview with him the other day, and his face looks fuller. It wasn't the face of someone who is close to 6' tall and weighs 167 pounds. I suspect he's put on a significant amount of weight - wouldn't be surprised if he weighs at least 180.
But your point still stands - where would he play this season? I think, if Ovie doesn't come back, there might be a spot for him next season, because the Caps are going to have to start figuring out ways to replace his production.
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You get internet included with your cable? I just pay Xfinity for internet. It's another $100-120+ if I want the cable tv as well. At the moment, just pay for internet and hulu+espn+ package. Covers everything I need to watch. Well, it did anyway. Bought ready to go back to cable or satellite. Streaming is about as much, if not more than cable, which was the whole reason for cutting the cord in the first place. Plus it doesn't matter how fast your internet is, streaming has about a 1 minute delay to "live" tv. Which makes watching sports and chatting about it on message boards a pain in the ass sometimes, cause shit happens before streamers see it. I always switch to the antenna if the Skins, or someone Im watching, are on network tv.
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Cable tv and internet are the same exact connection to the house. So either way Im stroking a monthly check to comcast. Ive got far too many trees that Im unwilling to cut down for dish or starlink. From what Ive read, starlink can work through the trees, but not reliably.
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Mick, if it comes to it, you can get Monumental subscription directly thru internet and it has all the Caps games (well all the ones that they broadcast). I think its $20/month, but never pursued it cuz didn't have to.
Alta - I have Starlink. Its is phenomenal. I can't get cable or fiber where I am located, but i have been more than impressed with Starlink. We have 8 people currently living in our house and are streaming 2, 3, 4 different streaming services at a time, plus computers, plus phones, and its never let us down. I live in the woods, surrounded by trees, but it is clear around the house so i have a clear sky view from the roof.
$120/month for Starlink and it is unlimited and we've so far failed to ever have an issue or overwhelm it even with multiple multiple users on it all at the same time. I can run a gaming laptop at same time my son is, while we are watching a streaming movie, while my wife is working remotely, while my other son is streaming another program, with 8 smartphones connected, with prob 4 of them watching tiktok for hours on end (or some other nonsense).
My in-laws moved in with us couple years ago (Lawd help me) and they had DirecTV and wanted to keep it so they pay for DirecTV. With Starlink I wouldn't pay for it DirecTV, but we have it so i watch the games on DirecTV. When we have storms, the DirecTV goes out, but it switches over to internet (wifi) connection thru the Starlink wifi router and basically streams thru the Starlink.
So, yeah, Im a Starlink fan because it worked so well for us.
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Yea, satellite is a pain anytime there's a thunderstorm around. Only good thing about it, is if there's a power outage, (like down here in a hurricane, might be out for a week) you can use a generator and still get Satellite TV, when cable/internet/etc are all out.
Rich, Im looking into getting Monumental+.. Gone fishin till Sunday, so will get on it when I get back!
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Gone fishing for three straight days? When did you win the lottery?
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I won't tell anyone, but there will be clues! :rofl:
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Preseason game 5 tonight, Caps vs Bruins at 7pm. Monumental and supposedly 106.7 will have the game. The last Thursday night game 106.7 broadcast the nfl even though the Skins werent playing.
Ovechkin-I. Protas-Miroshnichenko
Beauvillier-Lapierre-Leonard
Milano-Sourdif-Frank
Cristall-Mateiko-Rempal
Chycrun-TVR
Fehervary-Iorio
McIlrath-Chesley
Lindgren
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Boy, the Caps are taking a good look at L'il Protas - centering the Ovie line, which is a big responsibility not only to give Ovie his chances, but to be defensively responsible given that Ovie is no great shakes in his own zone.
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Yes they are looking hard at a lot of guys. I've been quite impressed with a bunch of them. Leonard has looked good, so has Cristall, Protas, Lappy and Miro as well. Even Rempall has looked good. I think honestly all have played well enough to make the squad but there just isn't room.
I think Lappy and Leonard are in, as is Milano. That leaves room for 1 forward
Frank, Sourdiff, Rempal, Smallman, Clarke. Rybinski, Trineyev, would have to clear waivers (as would Lappy, Milano)
Cristall, Protus, Miro are waivers exempt. I think just based on asset management, The Caps will send these three to Hershey and put Sourdiff on the NHL Roster. Kind of sucks for all 3 of them as they have all played very well.
Kind of makes my scratch my head a little that they spent draft pics to get Sourdiff, when they have SO many young prospects that could maybe make the jump. Caps are going to have to risk at least 7 Forwards to the waiver wire this week.
I heard them say last night if Iorio is sent to Hershey - he will have to clear waivers. I don't understand that based on the waiver exempt guidelines I've seen. Iorio is 22, has 3 years pro status (this year is 4) and has played 9 NHL games in two seasons (never 8 games in one year).
I looked it up - he signed his ELC Oct, 2021 - so he is 4 years from start of his PRO career. I assume that is what makes him waiver eligible.
Chisolm, Iorio, BigMac are fighting for 2 spots. I ASSUME BigMac is a lock - he seems to be very well liked, and I certainly think he has his value...guy knows how to clear the crease.
I expect Iorio will make it over Chisolm.
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Rich - good analysis. I kind of hate to see Milano take a spot as we know what he is - which is a player that gets hot every now and then but has stretches where he just gets dominated and then has the injuries. I like Cristall, but he is really small. At that size they really need to be super-skilled and I'm not sure he will get to that level. I hope I'm wrong since he seems to be able to put the puck in the net. I have the same concerns about Leonard, but at least he is a little bigger.
i'm guessing Miro sticks. He was a strategic draft pick who was a guy that would have gone higher and I think they would like to prove how smart they were drafting him.
By mid-season, I would not be surprised to see Lil Pro on the roster.
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I agree about Milano, He has worked hard and looks excellent now, but he is a streaky player who sometimes just earns himself out of a playing spot, but based on this camp...he's in for now. Lappy as well - I think AHL did him good last year, hope he continues to improve, and he has been very productive as well as responsible.
Hate to see guys not make it simply do to the waiver consequences, but the reality is, why risk an asset if you don't have to so it certainly is a factor.
We need guys who will score - or at least create the opportunities to score. Most of these guys have done that in pre-season, but the other factor is where will they actually play if they make the roster?
Miro and Protus could survive on 4th line due to their size/style of play. Cristall, Leonard, Lappy, would be a waste their so why waste the time to put them there - they'd be better served in AHL honing their craft
I think they will keep Iorio for the waiver reason...he is a young talent with good size and I expect he is close to NHL ready....they shouldn't risk losing him to another team - I believe he would get picked up on waiver for sure. Both Carlson and TVR are declining and wont last forever. Iorio is close to being ready for fulltime NHL play.
I figure the Caps will start with Milano, Leonard, Lappy, Sourdiff, and Iorio, sending the other guys to Hershey, risking Frank and about 6 more to waivers. I expect the first opportunity or injury or someone just not producing, and we will see one or more of these guys in Caps sweater at some point this season.
Leonard is waiver exempt so he could be sent down without risk, leaving a spot for someone who isn't, but they seem to be really high on him and he has played well,
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Rich - good analysis. I kind of hate to see Milano take a spot as we know what he is - which is a player that gets hot every now and then but has stretches where he just gets dominated and then has the injuries. I like Cristall, but he is really small. At that size they really need to be super-skilled and I'm not sure he will get to that level. I hope I'm wrong since he seems to be able to put the puck in the net. I have the same concerns about Leonard, but at least he is a little bigger.
i'm guessing Miro sticks. He was a strategic draft pick who was a guy that would have gone higher and I think they would like to prove how smart they were drafting him.
By mid-season, I would not be surprised to see Lil Pro on the roster.
It surprises me that IlyaP might be going to Hershey. He has another year of Junior eligibility left - you'd think the Caps would use it. He must really be showing some talent for them to forego that experience. He had a great season in Juniors, but he will be 19 for this entire next season, I believe. And it's hard to put a lot of weight on Junior stats because lots of guys score lots of points in Juniors.
As for Cristall, I saw a postgame video of him the other day, and he no longer weighs 167 - I'll guarantee you that. His face and neck is filled out; I bet he's put on some weight, and these "official" stats are often known to lag well behind reality. I'd bet he weighs at least 180 now. That ain't huge, but for a waterbug, it can be competitive.
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It surprises me that IlyaP might be going to Hershey. He has another year of Junior eligibility left - you'd think the Caps would use it. He must really be showing some talent for them to forego that experience. He had a great season in Juniors, but he will be 19 for this entire next season, I believe. And it's hard to put a lot of weight on Junior stats because lots of guys score lots of points in Juniors.
As for Cristall, I saw a postgame video of him the other day, and he no longer weighs 167 - I'll guarantee you that. His face and neck is filled out; I bet he's put on some weight, and these "official" stats are often known to lag well behind reality. I'd bet he weighs at least 180 now. That ain't huge, but for a waterbug, it can be competitive.
Agree on both. I think Ilya has progressed greatly, but those crazy stats in WHL don't mean too much. I mean he DID score more than ANYONE else so that's saying something but we all know fantastic prospects don't always turn into superstars. I do think they move him to AHL this season - just based on his level of success and his overall play. His massive size helps.
Every interview I've seen with Cristall, he says the same thing...he's working hard and putting on weight. If he is actually 5'10", then he does look heavier than 167. At his age especially, I would think he could pack on 13lbs of muscle in a season to get him to 180. I'm so far removed from his age and weight...I don't have a good reference :snicker:
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As of this afternoon....
Washington loaned forwards Andrew Cristall, Eriks Mateiko and Ilya Protas and defensemen Ryan Chesley and Leon Muggli to AHL Hershey. All five players are embarking upon their first seasons as pros in North America in 2025-26. Additionally, the Caps placed forward Sheldon Rempal on waivers for the purpose of loaning him to Hershey
Cuts roster to 27; 15F, 9D, 3G. So looks like they need to trim 1G, 1D, 2F
Sourdiff, Leonard, Miro, Lappy, Frank, Milano are left fighting for 4 jobs (I'm missing one I think, but dunno who)
I expect Miro &r Frank get the axe. Miro is waiver exempt. Or maybe Caps cut Milano - his health might make him safe to waiver but dunno - he has played well.
Sourdiff has been the least noticeable of this group to me this preseason, but maybe he's just not flashy or a big scorer? Frank has looked pretty good - has Just missed on bunches of chances - I cringe for him every time thinking that might be a nail in his coffin, but heck maybe mgmt likes the chances hes getting.
I dont know who the 9th D is...Oh maybe Chisolm? So Chisolm/Iorio/BigMac are fighting for 7 & 8 D D spot. Only 1 will have to be cut...None are waiver exempt
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I like Chisolm and Iorio. Chisolm can skate and kind of reminds me of Chyckrun. I would like to see Mac make the team, but he is not going to get better at this point. If they are going to do what they have in the past and not work in the 7th guy very often, then I would prefer them down in Hershey where they can develop.
On Cristall - there is no way he is 5' 10" but maybe he is not done growing. I really hope Leonard can grow as well and put on muscle. He can get away with the free-wheeling skating style in college, but he scares me with the big boys - he is gonna get hurt if he doesn't protect himself better.
I repeat what I said about Miro - I think he is the one they will keep because they want to look smart drafting him.
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whoever is moved from the D has to clear Waivers - which sucks. I can't see them risking Iorio - he would get grabbed for sure. I think Iorio was a 1st round pick...I just don't see them losing him. I love BigMac, but at this point, I'd rather risk losing 35yo Mac than 22yo Iorio. I having seen enough or know anything about Chisolm to really comment on him
Leonard is listed at 6'0, 190 lbs. I don't think he's that tall, but he might be. He looks pretty solid and muscular in his warroad shirt, but i just didn't think he was that big. They keep referring to him as a "power forward", but that's not the impression I got last year. He has looked more solid in this short preseason...driving the net, standing in front, etc.
Funny - the short article I read (Mike Vogel), didn't even mention Leonard in the discussion of who would be cut next
FWIW - they have Miro listed at 6'-1", 185lbs. I don't think he's 6'-1, but maybe so
They have Lil Pro listed at 6'-5" - now THAT one I don't doubt ;D
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I think you are right about Iorio. I just hope hs in not another Alexyev - that they never develop and then lose him later.
I don't think Miro is that big either. All teams exaggerate a little, but the Caps have had this reputation as a big, physical team for years which I don't agree with. Other than Ovi and Willy, there really is very little size on the team that will actually use that size. Carlson is an oversized pillow and our D has to be one of the least physical in the league. Protas is not physical at all.
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As of this afternoon....
Washington loaned forwards Andrew Cristall, Eriks Mateiko and Ilya Protas and defensemen Ryan Chesley and Leon Muggli to AHL Hershey. All five players are embarking upon their first seasons as pros in North America in 2025-26. Additionally, the Caps placed forward Sheldon Rempal on waivers for the purpose of loaning him to Hershey
Cuts roster to 27; 15F, 9D, 3G. So looks like they need to trim 1G, 1D, 2F
Sourdiff, Leonard, Miro, Lappy, Frank, Milano are left fighting for 4 jobs (I'm missing one I think, but dunno who)
I expect Miro &r Frank get the axe. Miro is waiver exempt. Or maybe Caps cut Milano - his health might make him safe to waiver but dunno - he has played well.
Sourdiff has been the least noticeable of this group to me this preseason, but maybe he's just not flashy or a big scorer? Frank has looked pretty good - has Just missed on bunches of chances - I cringe for him every time thinking that might be a nail in his coffin, but heck maybe mgmt likes the chances hes getting.
I dont know who the 9th D is...Oh maybe Chisolm? So Chisolm/Iorio/BigMac are fighting for 7 & 8 D D spot. Only 1 will have to be cut...None are waiver exempt
Sourdiff was brought in specifically to be the 4RW to go with Dowd/Duhaine. So offense isn't really the issue there. If he's to get cut, somebody has to fill 4RW, and none of the other guys you mentioned is really suited for that. On defense, Big Mac goes down - no one will take him because of his age. He's at the point in his career where he knows what the deal is -- he is a spare part. I think Frank is in sort of the same boat, though I could see someone being more willing to take a flyer on him.
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Final cuts need to be made by Monday at 5pm eastern.
Final preseason game, Caps vs Blue Jackets at 7pm
Monumental Sports, 106.7 FM
There doesnt appear to be any pregame again tonight. Tonights expected lines per Sammi..
Alex Ovechkin-Dylan Strome-Aliaksei Protas
Connor McMichael-Pierre-Luc Dubois-Tom Wilson
Ivan Miroshnichenko-Hendrix Lapierre-Ryan Leonard
Brandon Duhaime-Nic Dowd-Justin Sourdif
Martin Fehervary-John Carlson
Rasmus Sandin-Matt Roy
Declan Chisholm-Dylan McIlrath
Logan Thompson
Charlie Lindgren
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Did McIlrath get hurt this evening? I don't think he's played in the second half of the game.
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McIlrath had one short shift to start the 3rd then went to the locker room. Roy did not play the final 10 minutes, also went to the locker room. Thats potentially two D men starting the season on IR.
It kinda looked like McIlrath may have strained a groin when he lost his skate blade, not sure what happened to Roy.
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Yes Mac was hurt and did not return for 3rd period....later reported as lower body injury
Roy also disappeared near end of 3rd...Caps finished with 4D
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https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/1974898148515754100
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Stevenson and Frank were placed on waivers today. The news hit about 2pm. Other teams have 24 hours to claim them. Rempal cleared waivers and is in Hershey.
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Roy and McIlrath did not practice this morning, which tells me they will officially be on IR at the 5pm deadline. Chisholm left practice injured, possibly a skate cut. Thats potentially three injured to start the season.
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Just canceled Hulu. First 2 games are national tv, so looks like Sunday the 12th will be the first time I need Monumental+. Probably gonna switch to Slingtv and then get Monumental+. Probably end up paying around the same in the end. Only channel (that I know of) I won't be getting now is Fox Business.
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A picture of Chisholm cut through his gear got posted. It doesnt look bad. But, its going to need a couple days to heal properly.
Miroshnichenko has been sent to Hershey, he is waiver exempt. The roster is now 24 players. It needs to be 23 by 5pm. Having a player or two on IR will satisfy that. For now.
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A picture of Chisholm cut through his gear got posted. It doesnt look bad. But, its going to need a couple days to heal properly.
Miroshnichenko has been sent to Hershey, he is waiver exempt. The roster is now 24 players. It needs to be 23 by 5pm. Having a player or two on IR will satisfy that. For now.
Well it's 2 pm...wonder if Stephenson and Frank cleared waivers. I would assume we'd hear if they got picked up.
Mac hurt, Roy hurt, Chisholm hurt with a cut...i expect they look at 4:30 which guy is in the worst shape and put at least 1 on IR, meaning no more moves/waivers to worry over
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Just announced, Frank and Stevenson cleared and are headed to Hershey.
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Well that's good...i guess. Maybe they wanted to be grabbed....get a chance to play somewhere? Frank is right on the cusp...great wheels, decent hustle, but just a bit snakebit on scoring..which is where he was last year when he was on the NHL squad.
SO now we just find out how many D go on IR and we good to go for Wednesday.
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Stevenson is good, but I dont see him starting here unless there is an injury. Stevenson has two years left on contract, Lindgren three and Thompson 6 or 7. I think hes going to be trade bait this or next season.
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Looks like they have BigMac on IR...
in typical Caps web management ...they post this to their website, but if you go to the team roster on their website, it has not been updated since sometime in the summer so it shows Ethan Frank on the roster, but not Lappy or Iorio
(https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/558968507_1207109268127856_576881506579148793_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=MdpcigiM9fgQ7kNvwEhaWgV&_nc_oc=AdkqH2tkC3M09CbLLjUYwSeiTLVedmETmTC2OltBQbOfaE5-uRc7GBxWLtVMmd3sgco&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fric1-2.fna&_nc_gid=VNXJ8h2_-tmT0mTlQ1Wb2A&oh=00_AfcNLPZMGGnftHpY3c44rro4M9mAVJqPfIxHLeW2SCBbYw&oe=68E9FA48)
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So, with my CRS in full swing, who (or which 2 starters) are Sourdif, Lapierre and Milano replacing? :huh: (Yes, Im too lazy to look back at an old GDT) :raspberry:
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Sourdiff basically took Taylor Radish RW 4th line spot
Milano and Lappy....took spots sort of held by Eller, Mangipanne
but also several games by Frank, Miro, Lappy, Vranna
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Hershey updates their website roster THE second a move is announced. Caps website will update it in a month or two. Pitiful for a professional organization. The team as it will start the season.
Forwards
8 Alex Ovechkin
9 Ryan Leonard
15 Sonny Milano
17 Dylan Strome
21 Aliaksei Protas
22 Brandon Duhaime
24 Connor McMichael
26 Nic Dowd
29 Hendrix Lapierre
34 Justin Sourdif
43 Tom Wilson
72 Anthony Beauvillier
80 Pierre-Luc Dubois
Defensemen
2 Vincent Iorio
3 Matt Roy
6 Jakob Chychrun
38 Rasmus Sandin
42 Martin Fehervary
47 Declan Chisholm
52 Dylan McIlrath (injured reserve)
57 Trevor van Riemsdyk
74 John Carlson
Goaltenders
48 Logan Thompson
79 Charlie Lindgren
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Also, a fairly quick milestone watch is OV being the first NHL player ever to 900 career goals. He needs three to reach it.
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I saw where the Pens cut Alexyev. Too bad for him, I thought he was mismanaged by the Caps and could have been good if he got more development instead of sitting on our bench all year. Or, maybe he just wasn't that good.
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Bring out your dead
https://youtu.be/W4rR-OsTNCg
Bring on the Thread!
Let's Go Caps!
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I saw where the Pens cut Alexyev. Too bad for him, I thought he was mismanaged by the Caps and could have been good if he got more development instead of sitting on our bench all year. Or, maybe he just wasn't that good.
From my uninformed eye test, he just didn't skate very well.
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Bring out your dead
Bring on the Thread!
Let's Go Caps!
There are three games today to start the season. Caps arent playing until tomorrow.
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There are three games today to start the season. Caps arent playing until tomorrow.
Yes, I know, but I thought I'd start the pestering a day early for 1st game of the season :wackysmile:
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From my uninformed eye test, he just didn't skate very well.
Yeah I dunno, I had high hopes for Alexeyev a few years ago, but Covid, and other issues kind of F'd up his development. The fact that Pitt signed him and then cut him tells me its not just the Caps, but it is too bad. He's a big rig and actually hits people (unfortunately sometimes in a bar in Clarendon) I believe he was a first round pick (31st overall in 2018, and there were 31 teams so....)
He could go play with Kuzy in KHL....i saw where nobody in NHL really wanted to take a shot on Kuzy this year and his former KHL team and he agreed to negate his 4 year deal after 1 year at the end of last season. Kuzy now signed a 1 year deal with another KHL team. I think he's working for beer money, but he has to run the zamboni after practices too. According to RMNB, the contract is 1 year 10million ruble (which is $123k US) NHL minimum is $775k, and his KHL contract from last year was ten times that amount.
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So, in a nutshell, I guess we'll see if Lappy can replace Eller as 3c. Not really worried about the 4th line. Though, still not sure what's supposed to be special about Sourdif. Dudes another midget.
https://twitter.com/Tarik_ElBashir/status/1975578053016494448
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Anyone hear about or watch either of the last two Panthers vs Lightning pre-season games?
They played 10/2 and had 186 PIMs
played again 10/4 and had 322 PIMs
They had also played each other 9/30
Apparently by the 3rd game in a row vs each other they were quite chippy. I watched the 9min condensed replay, and of course...they did not show a single penalty or fight in the highlights ::)
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Haven't heard or watched any of them, but I imagine the Lightning are butt hurt they're no longer king of the hill in Florida. Definitely don't like each other.
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I was just reading NHL prognostications for this season (for what they're worth), and one thing jumped out at me as being very curious.
There was one prediction that everyone agreed upon for the upcoming season, and that was that the Capitals were the team likely to take a big step backward. But the rationale to me was curious. The argument was that last season was an aberration because of Ovie's Gretzky pursuit, which caused the Caps to over perform. But I've heard it said many times that when a team focuses on a particular player's accomplishment or pursuit of a record, it causes distractions and LESSENS team performance. It's interesting to me that in this case, the "experts" flip the argument and use it as a basis for justifying that the team will back up.
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I also feel a setback coming. But, Im old and from the DMV.. Im trained to think all our teams are gonna suck every year! Makes it easier on the nervous system. :rofl:
Hopefully we're a scrappy bunch, regardless of the W/L's
(https://i.postimg.cc/LsyNSVts/tenor.gif)
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I expect the Caps will take a step back from last year, not have as much regular season success. Simply in the fact that SO many guys had career years last year, I can't believe they would all do it again. I don't expect Ovi will be as productive, but you just never know with that guy. I figure if all the guys who had career years, scores 5 less goals each this year that is quite a few goals, and will make a difference in the number of wins. However...will it really matter? All we need is to get to the playoffs. Who cares if they win the division or are the best or second best or division best in the regular season? Protas, Willy, McMike, Strome, Dubouis are 5/6 of our top 6 and they are in prime years or not yet to point of decline. Ovi will drop off, but Carbs will manage his playing time to best utilize him. When they say "a big step backward" do they mean Caps don't make the playoffs? or do they mean well...they won't be best in East?
I'm okay with not best in the east. Not okay with not making the playoffs - that definitely would be a failure.
I think our problem is we are a little weak on D. I mean we have plenty of D, and we got Fever back and if he is healthy, that's a huge lift defensively. I continue to say TVR is 1/4 step from being worthless, but honestly if he falls short, bring in Chisolm, Iorio, Mac, etc. Carlson is getting older as well, but I heard Carbs already say he intends to manage his minutes better to relieve some of his work load with intent to make him more successful. I think our D is as good as it was last year, with maybe better options for guys to step up if someone goes down.
We have virtually the same team offensively as last year; swap in Leonard and Lappy for Mangipanne and Eller. Eller was ineffective 6G, 9A, Mangipanne had 14G, 14A. Vranna/Miro/Frank totaled 12g, 10 combined. Not sure what Lenny will get, but maybe the combo of Lenny, Lappy, Beuvy will produce at least as much as our 3rd line last year. I expect Carbs will manage their minutes up or down depending on situations and how effective and responsible they are. I think the worry there is not so much goal production, but rather how responsible they are as a 3rd line.
Goaltending should be solid. BOth guys played maybe a little better than expected, so maybe there is some drop off there, but not enough to tank the season.
If the Caps have a less successful record, but end up say 2nd place in division or even a WC spot, and say win 1st round ... Is that taking a big step backward? I'd say that's ultimately pretty much same level of success...winning only 1 round in playoffs.
Caps are essentially the same team they were last year. A team with lots of varied talent with lots of guys sharing the scoring, One aging (okay...AGED) super superstar, reasonable D, good goaltending, and most important - a very good coach who i think will manage the players based on how well they are performing.
man this season can't get started soon enough.
Go Caps
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How about now? Is it too early now?
https://youtu.be/W4rR-OsTNCg
Bring on the Thread!
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Caps website still has Frank listed on Roster, doesn't show Iorio.
FFS the season has started
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:raised-eyebrow:
I cant even finish my second cup of coffee around here
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:snicker:
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This is from preseason. I cant wait until they meet in the playoffs again.
https://scoutingtherefs.com/2025/10/49591/lightning-fined-100000-two-fined-two-suspended-after-322-pim-game-vs-panthers/ (https://scoutingtherefs.com/2025/10/49591/lightning-fined-100000-two-fined-two-suspended-after-322-pim-game-vs-panthers/)
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Caps updated their roster on their website....removing Frank but they forgot to add Lapierre :-|
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Looking at the Caps' roster, with no LaPierre yet, the thing that surprised me were some significant updates to player weight.
Now I know that people say all those stats are padded, but a lot of guys on the team did not change weight from previous years, so it makes me wonder why certain guys would change but others wouldn't.
Notable "updates":
Leonard up from 192 to 205.
Protas up from 247 to 250.
No other forward changes.
Fehervary from 200 to 215
Iorio from 200 (on the Hershey site) to 220
Roy from 210 to 220
TVR from 197 to 210
Sandin from 180 to 189.
TVR is the biggest surprise - the other guys are younger, so they might be expected to put on some weight. But this appears as if it is going to be a heavier team than last year.
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wow i didnt look that deep. Leonard is def bigger than last season.
TVR...oof. Glad to have some pounds to hit with but he CANT afford to lose that 1/4 step. we shall see.
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Caps at Islanders tonight, gonna do the GDT when I get home about 4, ish
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Caps were off today after the back to back weekend. So no update on Dubois.
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The Redskins Redskinned. Again. :(
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I was tempted to tune in to the second half..
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Morning skate is still wrapping up, but, Dubois is being listed as day to day and will not play tonight.
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https://www.nhl.com/news/john-carlson-facing-uncertain-future-in-17th-nhl-season-with-washington-capitals (https://www.nhl.com/news/john-carlson-facing-uncertain-future-in-17th-nhl-season-with-washington-capitals)
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Can't say missing Dubois will matter much. Dude goes invisible for weeks at a time. Bummer we don't have any prospect C's worth a shit to call up.
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22yo d man Vincent Iorio was put on waivers today. The Caps needed to move someone for McIlrath to come off IR.
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22yo d man Vincent Iorio was put on waivers today. The Caps needed to move someone for McIlrath to come off IR.
wow I hope he clears.
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Iorio was claimed by San Jose.
Dubois sat out practice today, lower body. McIlrath is still listed on IR, but he can be activated tomorrow before the game.
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Iorio was claimed by San Jose.
Dubois sat out practice today, lower body. McIlrath is still listed on IR, but he can be activated tomorrow before the game.
Ouch. That seems dumb, let a young BIG D man, 2nd round pick go for nothing. I think I would risked Mac - he'd have better chance of clearing. I like Mac and all, but he's 35 and likely in his last year. Caps must either see something in him they don't trust or have more talent up and coming they think can replace him before they need him.
I'm a little surprised - he made team out of camp and then lose him to waivers.
Chisolm has looked good, but still - with as many OLD D as we have, I would think Vinnie would have gotten some games this year. For me, TVR and Carlson should NOT be renewed next year so..there 2 spots open. Mac is in his last or close to last season at NHL level so he will be out of picture too.
I looked at Caps prospects and I don't see anyone on Iorio's level, and certainly not his size. This is a head scratcher to me.
I would have risked Lappy, or Mac, or Milano before Vinnie.
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The team couldnt move Mac until he was off of IR. They had to move someone to clear a roster spot for Mac. Tough spot to be in.
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Couldn't they have moved him from IR straight to waivers, w/o exposing anyone else? Who knows, but I think I trust Rich more than Chris Patrick at this point.. Dude hasn't done much of anything. All the good moves before last year were made by GMBM. :(
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That Iorio move WAS a head scratcher - I agree with everyone else here. McIlrath I'm sure would have cleared waivers at his age, and Iorio was 100% guaranteed to be picked up - the organization knew that. But if the Caps weren't going to play Iorio, what's the harm, I guess? We weren't happy about losing Alexeyev either, but if you're just going to park the car in the garage and not use it, why not give it to Vehicles for Change?
Maybe the Caps feel confident enough in Chesley/Muggli/Hutson for the future that they are willing to go in that direction.
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Feels similar to when we lost Siegenthaler for scraps.. He'll probably be the Sharks ice time leader by end of the year. lol
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As I recall, the Seigs trade was for money. As in the team had none to spare under the cap. As usual, the Caps got screwed on that type of trade.
Dubois skating in a no contact sweater this morning. No way he dresses tonight.
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Frank, TVR, Mcllrath are the healthy scrathes. We'll see Chisholm tonight!
https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/1979189973661147416 (https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/1979189973661147416)
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Calling up a player makes no sense unless someone stays on IR today. Either McIlrath isnt being activated or Dubois gets moved to IR, which works retroactively, he would need to miss Sundays game as well.
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So who do you believe?
The Caps have more young players who are legitimate prospects in Hershey this year than they have had in many years - which may mean growing pains.
But speaking of growing, here are some stats according to the Caps' prospects page and the Hershey roster page:
Player Ht/Wt Caps Ht/Wt Hershey
Chesley 6'0", 195 6'2", 210
Miroshnic..... 6'1", 185 6'1", 205
Cristall 5'10", 167 5'10", 187
Muggli 6'0", 165 6'1", 180
Protas, Ilya 6'5", 198 6'6", 225
Hockey is known for inflating stats. But the Caps site smacks of stats from Juniors that haven't been updated.
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Based on what Ive seen the past several years, Id bet a large sum of money that the Caps front office has not updated the website. They seem to act like the website is outdated technology.
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Pre game vs the Wild coach said Dubois wont play Sunday either. He could have been put on IR, and no one would have needed to be waived until Monday. Not sure it mattered though.
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The fact that TVR is a scratch further scratches my head about Iorio. TVR is barely NHL worthy at this point. Next year he's gone (I hope). Why give up an asset like Iorio for NOTHING?, when you aren't even playing TVR.. FFS put TVR on waivers, who cares if he's taken. Iorio could at least be traded for other assets at some point if you don't think he's up to NHL status....even just draft pics later.
other than the fact that Iioro was just thrown away, I LIKE that TVR is sitting. Nothing against him but he's slow and barely serviceable at this point. Chisolm is a better option IMO
WILD have some real motors on their squad so I assume that's why TVR is sitting.
they could have put Dubois on IR and saved Iorio. Yes, still have a problem in couple days when Duby comes off, but then you could try to move MAC. I know this is all smoke and mirrors, but damn every other NHL team does this BS, might as well use the rules to your advantage.
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Nothing in the scenario make sense.
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Iorio had nearly 20 minutes last night for San Jose. Including 3:00 of PK and a short shift on the PP.
https://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20252026/TV020075.HTM (https://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20252026/TV020075.HTM)
https://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20252026/ES020075.HTM (https://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20252026/ES020075.HTM)
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:smirk:
(https://i.postimg.cc/LsyNSVts/tenor.gif)
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The web host was being weird this morning, I tried
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It's been slow to load here since yesterday morning. :( Seems ok at the moment though.
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Dubois still in a no contact sweater for this mornings practice.
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Wonder who's gonna replace Lappi when Dubois is healthy? I don't see him lasting much longer on the big club.
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Milano isnt doing well either, not consistent enough. At the post practice presser, coach said Dubois is definitely out tomorrow vs the Kraken.
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The fact that TVR is a scratch further scratches my head about Iorio. TVR is barely NHL worthy at this point. Next year he's gone (I hope). Why give up an asset like Iorio for NOTHING?, when you aren't even playing TVR.. FFS put TVR on waivers, who cares if he's taken. Iorio could at least be traded for other assets at some point if you don't think he's up to NHL status....even just draft pics later.
other than the fact that Iioro was just thrown away, I LIKE that TVR is sitting. Nothing against him but he's slow and barely serviceable at this point. Chisolm is a better option IMO
WILD have some real motors on their squad so I assume that's why TVR is sitting.
they could have put Dubois on IR and saved Iorio. Yes, still have a problem in couple days when Duby comes off, but then you could try to move MAC. I know this is all smoke and mirrors, but damn every other NHL team does this BS, might as well use the rules to your advantage.
I'm just back from my daughter's wedding and catching back up. Can't believe they lost Iorio. You can't just lose a 2nd round pick like that unless he was clearly playing so bad that nobody in the league thought he was worth at least a 4th or 5th round pick. I realize those picks are usually worthless, but c'mon. I agree with everything Rich and Mick said - just ticks me off to lose a big defenseman like that.
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I played golf for my birthday Sunday morning with my 3 of my sons. 1st time I played in a year and 3rd time in 3 years. Played the previous 2 years on/around Father's day.
My golf game is about as good as the Caps PP....hit one good one every 10-15 tries :snicker: Good thing is I have no expectations so it really doesn't frustrate me UNLIKE the Caps.
Had a good time, good weather (except for the wind). I did win $20 for closest to the pin, not once but 2/4 times. $5 per player each on the Par 3 holes. None of my sons expected that or liked that very much, but I sure did. Didn't Birdie a single hole, had a chance to only 2-3 times really. Had a few pars, lots of bogeys, doubles, triples, quads, etc, etc.
Feeling it a bit today, but I have learned not to try and over hit...just swing easy and I do okay (and my body doesn't hate me the next day)
My oldest (stepson) is an excellent athlete (well they all are, but he's exceptional at everything), and that M'fker can hit it about 340. He drove the green on a par 4 - 320ish yard hole and he hit the back of the green and off the back. Saw him do that on a 340ish yard hole last year. Crazy. Same kid could dunk a basketball at age 15 and was only 5'-10". Could throw baseball in the 90's at 16-17. He really really should have played baseball in college - pissed me off when he quit playing baseball to run track :raised-eyebrow: . The legion coach told me/him if he would play Legion ball summer after Junior year in HS, he GUARENTEED he'd get a baseball scholarship somewhere by middle senior year. Nope...got bored with baseball, numfuck. He kind of regrets it now, but oh well, he's done very well for himself.
Anyway, I digress...played golf yesterday, came home to watch the Caps game late....apparently the Caps showed up about the same time I did...
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I'm just back from my daughter's wedding and catching back up. Can't believe they lost Iorio. You can't just lose a 2nd round pick like that unless he was clearly playing so bad that nobody in the league thought he was worth at least a 4th or 5th round pick. I realize those picks are usually worthless, but c'mon. I agree with everything Rich and Mick said - just ticks me off to lose a big defenseman like that.
Yeah, especially at his size. I don't follow prospects much, but I surveyed the Hershey Roster and their Young D is all shrimps. I was really surprised they gave him up for nothing.
Especially the timing...Mac didn't come off IR till today, and with Dubuois going on, they had room to float a couple days. I mean if he is never going to play I get it, but I don't think that is the case...with 2 aging D-men plus in Carlson/TVR, Iorio would have gotten some games this year. I guess it was inevitable, SOMEONE was going to have to clear at some point, but seems Iorio was like waiver candy - several teams would want him.
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boredom afternoon stat of the day: Caps leaders in +/-...
Chychrun +6
Ovie +5
Beavy +5
Stromer +4
Johnny Q Dylan Norris candidate... worst on team at -2
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Milano isnt doing well either, not consistent enough.
Damn, you're right! He's been so invisible I forgot he was playing. If they could find a couple decent linemates, I really think Leonard could take off. Be real nice if they could find 10-20lbs of muscle to add to him.
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https://twitter.com/NathanGraviteh/status/1981023734988231161
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Caps play back to back this weekend, next weekend, and then mid following week. Who makes the schedule?
I actually prefer weeknight games...much easier for me to watch. At least there aren't any day games in the back to backs.
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Caps play back to back this weekend, next weekend, and then mid following week. Who makes the schedule?
What? How would you know? They've not even released the schedule yet!! :snicker: :raspberry:
(https://i.postimg.cc/JzYY9H98/sched.jpg)
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:raspberry:
Dubois was a full participant in todays practice and will travel with the team to Columpus. Sandin sat out todays practice, upper body, and will not travel with the team. Caps have until tomorrow to put him on IR or send Frank back to Hershey.
Speaking of Hershey, Rempal has been waived on his own request to go back to the KHL.
OV is two games away from 1,500 career, and two goals shy of 900.
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Wait? Isn't there a game today? For God's sake I'm only a doctor Jim.
It's not like you had 2 whole days off since the last game :raspberry:
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mmm
hot coffee on a cold day
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As the injury bug is hitting teams unusually early this season, that Iorio move looks worse.
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https://twitter.com/CapitalsPR/status/1982518855923896768
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Managements hands were especially tied, the NHL suspended Love for the 25-26 season. No details have been released, but speculation is domestic abuse of an ex.
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I hate Twitter...mostly cause I hate stupid people. I read some of the comments on there and I just cringe at the ignorance and arrogance of people talking shit about things they know absolutely nothing about.
Also...took me about 8 minutes to get this page to load to post this. Not really worth the wait I know.
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Caps at Dallas Tuesday, no word yet on Strome.
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Looking like Strome won't be back as soon as hoped.
https://twitter.com/Tarik_ElBashir/status/1982810323456245826
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Strome did not practice this morning. Both Strome and Sandin will not travel to Dallas
Ovechkin-McMichael-Leonard
Protas-Dubois-Wilson
Frank-Lapierre-Beauvillier
Duhaime-Dowd-Sourdif
Feherary-Carlson
Chychrun-Roy
Chisholm-TvR
Milano-McIlrath
Thompson
Lindgren
Its also telling that Frank gets in before Milano.
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Have to see how Lappi works out centering the 3rd line. Seemed like he was doing much better on the wing and Sourdif playing C?? And yea, Milano is quickly becoming an afterthought, unfortunately.
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wow that 1st line is....suspect on D responsibility. Bet L4 gets as many minutes. L3 will get the least ice. L2 is gonna log A LOT of minutes.
and Milano is on the 4th D line?
Hey at least the message board is back up to speed.
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Sandin was put on IR today to make room for Frank.
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Only one suspect D wise on the 1 line is Ovi, imo. And that's all accounted to his lack of speed. McMike has matured and Leonard is a superstar in the making. While this team may of overachieved last year, I don't think many (me included) factored in that a bunch of them still may not have peaked? Wilson, Strome, Proti, McMike to name a few. The ones underachieving so far this year are vets like Dubois.. Dude's been invisible so far and not even missed when injured..
I'd put Bouvi on the 4th line with Duhaime and Dowd. And put Sourdif (C) up with Lappi on LW and Frank on RW. Wouldn't be surprised if we see that happen at some point.
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Sandin was put on IR today to make room for Frank.
Still surprised we let Iorio get away for nothing. Seems very short sighted to give up a young high draft D, especially his size, to waivers. I mean honestly, who had a better chance of making a difference or playing more games (in a Caps sweater) in the next 2-3 seasons...Iiorio or BigMac? I like Mac, but he's at best a fill-in with a year or two left. Iorio may not be a superstar, but he's NHL caliber and on the rise, not decline.
He's played 6 games with Sharks. He has 0 points and is a minus 3. But...he's on the Sharks so... (they are 2nd worst in the league at -13 goal diff)
I looked up; sharks have 9 D on roster, 7 are in the minus...Dimitri Orlov leads D with a +2, 1 other D is +1. Not sure how they can have 9 D, 13F, 2G, but I assume their website is like ours...not perfectly maintained (1D is on IR)
Yikes i looked at Sportrac and Sharks have 12D under contract, only 3 have contracts beyond this year (2 of them only 1 more year and are 34/35 years old). They have 6 UFA, and 3 RFA on their D squad next year
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I'd put Bouvi on the 4th line with Duhaime and Dowd. And put Sourdif (C) up with Lappi on LW and Frank on RW. Wouldn't be surprised if we see that happen at some point.
I agree, Sourdif did well at 3C as I recall (excluding last game since it was an all around shit show for everyone).
Only memorable thing I can think of in that game was Willy totally clobbering some guy with a clean open ice hit. Hmmm...Lenny, Sourdif, Lappy, Dowd, Wilson all an even +/-. Thats tough in a 7-1 beating.
Dallas is no easy match up, especially at home. Boys better WTFU for tonight.
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Its barely after noon and the website that posts the zebra information already has tonights games up.
8-0
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pretty sure i'm in an alternate reality...
Montreal Canadiens and Detroit Redwings are 1 and 2 in the Atlantic division :snicker:
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Its still early in the season. It will change.
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Strome and Sandin skated in non contact jerseys this morning. No update yet on Frank.
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They put Frank on IR...upper body. So he is out for at least 7 days
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Good to know it actually is d2d with Strome. Was afraid he might miss significant time.
https://twitter.com/katieEadler/status/1983911197628825987
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yes, the PP especially misses Strome. We have hard enough time breaking into the zone with him carrying the puck, last game without him was horrendous.
could be Dallas just pressures the PP better, but I think Strome does help on the PP. I'd give big Pro a shot at running the puck in on the PP...he never gets PP time though.
I expect Strome plays tonight, but with another back to back, maybe they hold him 1 more game.
Stupid fucking schedule; back to back, 2 days off, 1 game then 2 nights off, back to back then 3 days off, then back to back
6 out of 7 games are back to back over this stretch. they say its cuz of the olympic break, but there's 2 or even 3 days off between most of these so thats just BS schedule making.
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Sammi said Carbs did some more "tweaking" to the PP.. Not sure what that even means since they're scared to tell Carlson he's the new PP2 QB.. That's one of the weirdest non adjustments I've ever witnessed. But yea, I'd put Pro on with Wilson and just let them get a head of steam and dump the puck in and let them go get it. Trying to pass or skate it in is 75% a comedy of errors for us.
Also she said Strome didn't stay on for extra work, so "probably" is playing tonight. One thing to note, no McMike.. Not sure why, they were waiting on word.
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Protas has been out on PP2 for several games now.
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Caps called up Spencer Smallman today. Hes listed as a right winger, 29 years old, 61, 205, and never played in an NHL game. No word yet on Strome for tonight.
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Oof.. Nascar's luck ran out tonight with their shitty 1 race takes all format. Feel bad for Connor Zilisch who finished the race in 3rd. (2nd in the Championship)
If they scored the season like normal, he wins the Championship by almost 400 points. This season he had 10 wins, 20 top 5's- (18 in a row to end the season) 23 top 10's, 8 poles, 11 stage wins, Over 1000 laps led.
But Jesse Love (RCR) won the Xfinity (Busch) Championship in Phoenix. He won the 1st race of the season and the last.
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Fuck me.. Hamlin 3 laps from the Championship :'( Fucking Larson with 2 tires gets it :thumbsdown: I'd put all the stats, but just know Hamlin dominated the whole fucking race. :-(
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Lines from practice this morning per Sammi, Dubois did not participate and Sandin is eligible to come off IR. Coach did say Dubois will be out long term ..
Ovechkin-Strome-Beauvillier
Protas-McMichael-Wilson
Milano-Smallman/Lapierre-Leonard
Duhaime-Dowd-Sourdif
Frank (non-contact)
Fehervary-Carlson
Chychrun-Roy
Sandin-TVR
Chisholm-McIlrath
Thompson
Lindgren
The organization traded D men with St Louis. To me this looks like it benefits Hershey, not so much the Caps. But well see..
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-acquire-corey-schueneman-from-st-louis (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-acquire-corey-schueneman-from-st-louis)
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Denny got fucked over. Jayden Daniels broke his fucking arm/elbow in another shit show Redskins blowout. Gators should of beat Georgia but got hosed as well as choked. Then there's the shitty Capitals.. Worst sports weekend in my life! >:(
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The local news this morning say Jayden x rays were negative on the elbow. Hes scheduled for an MRI today to check ligament damage.
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Either way, hopefully he's shut down till next year. Bro's arm bent at the elbow, the wrong way. 8-0 We knew he was too small framed for the NFL, but he still insists on trying for the "extra yard" when he carries the ball. He'll either learn to give himself up, or retire by the age of 26
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Dubois out indeterminately will miss "an extended period of time" reported today. Don't know yet if he will require surgery.
Sounds like torn knee to me, but that's a guess.
Sandin back in full sweater today.
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now THIS I like....
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/11/02/bruce-boudreau-teepeed-referee-paul-devorski-house-penalty-call-capitals-2008-nhl-playoffs/
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Dubois being out is gonna hurt more than most people think. I know he doesn't score as much as we'd like, but he was basically our shut down guy for opponent's top line.
This article shows some of that - some pretty impressive stats I didn't realize, but not just missing someone who scores, but really his defensive role is going to be sorely missed.
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-lose-dubois-for-extended-period (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/caps-lose-dubois-for-extended-period)
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Yep, I've been saying it in GDT's. We don't have the depth to lose ANYONE in the top 6. Especially not Centers. But there's 4 or 5 guys on the team we can't do without. Strome, Dubois, Wilson, Chychrun, Protus. Any of those guys go down for more than a game or two, it'll kill us. Our GM has set us up for failure this season by once again ignoring our lack of talent.
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Caps really needed to take both those last two games. Four losses in a row hurts, but damn, we got St Louis (who is struggling) next, but then its a steady diet of serious teams...
Shittsburgh, Tampa, Carolina, Florida, NJD.
Tampa and Florida are underperforming so far, but they always tough match ups for us. We beat Tampa earlier in the year at home.
Shittsburgh is night 2 of back to back and in Shittsburgh (fucked again with this years scheduling)
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at practice this morning coach said they dont think Dubois apparent knee injury is season ending ..
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:rofl: That pic sums up the mood perfectly!
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https://www.nhl.com/news/tom-wilson-would-be-thrilled-to-make-canada-olympics-roster-but-not-his-focus (https://www.nhl.com/news/tom-wilson-would-be-thrilled-to-make-canada-olympics-roster-but-not-his-focus)
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Mick Hens game is on ESPN+ Hulu....better start looking for a thread
Fn back to back with travel to play Shittsburgh with the Hens having last night off is just BS. The NHL did this to us last year also. Caps play two sets back to back in a row with 3 days off between - makes no sense. I get it they have to schedule the arena and such but last week was Fri/Sat - that seems like the toughest to schedule. You telling me neither team/arena was available Monday?
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This stream only garbage is efing stupid
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This stream only garbage is efing stupid
I agree. Its a big matchup game that I would think lots of NHL fans might want to watch, but you make it hard to access for a large portion of folks.
(my son has Hulu so I will be watching, but I wouldn't buy Hulu to watch a handful of games a year)
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I steal every game stream now, regardless what channel it's on. Fuck em'
They've made it more of a pain in the ass to get the stream started (lots of closing spam windows, reloading, trying to beat the disappearing icons to go full screen, etc) but once your have the stream loaded it's usually good to go the whole game. And it's still better than getting screwed by Hulu or Monumental or YoutubeTV or... Fuck em' all! lol
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Okay so I know after a loss to the Hens I'm a little saucier than normal so take this with a grain of salt, but ...
John Carlson sucks. Lindgren sucks too.
The whole league is always saying what a great all around D man Carlson is...he logs so many minutes, he plays all situations, blah blah blah
However, Carbs (in his infinite wisdom) has recognized Carly aint all that (or no longer is), so he has cut his minutes way down. He still plays plenty of minutes and he still gets PP time (even though he should NOT).
Carlson needs to move off the PP - his passes are not great and he has lost what ability he had to actually hit the net when he shoots. I have watched time after time ont he PP, when he winds up and hits a slapper he MISSES the net badly.
Willy's great tip in goal the other night was a BAD Carlson shot. I'm sure the Carly lovers will say...oh he's so smart he intentionally shot it 3' wide so he'd force Willy to spin around and make a wild swing at it going wide so when he caught the puck with the toe, it would take a 40 degree right turn and go into the net...but I aint buying. Carlson just can't hit the net.
OH, by the way, it was Fn Carlson lolly-gaggin the puck up ice and turned it over on our PP that led to Hens SHG
Chychrun is what they say carlson is...an ALL AROUND GREAT D-MAN. He is a great skater and puck mover, yet he does still actually play D
Both have 10 points on the season. Both play all situations.
Chicky leads the team +/- with a +10
Carlson is 2nd worst on the team with a -2
(both were even last night)
Lindgren 1-3-1, 3.59 GAA, .878 SV%. Those are horrendous numbers
Thompson 6-3, 1.45 GAA, .938 SV% Thompson has allowed 13GA in 9 games. He would have more wins if Caps scoring had not been anemic on him.
It's early to be making true comparisons on goalie stats, but damn...
I really hope we don't sign Carly to another deal. I feel bad saying that because he has been good for this team and been here so long, but I really think his game has declined dramatically and will continue to do so. (Told you we should have hung on to that Iorio guy - fucking stupid losing him on waivers)
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I didnt see it, but early in the 2nd the radio guys said Lindy looked hurt and was clearly struggling the rest of the game. Im curious what he looked like by the people that actually watched the game.
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Smallman was sent to Hershey today, which means Frank is activated from IR today.
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Dubois had surgery Friday to fix abdomen and abductor muscles, will be out 3-4 months.
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Dubois had surgery Friday to fix abdomen and abductor muscles, will be out 3-4 months.
From seeing the replay, I'd never guess in a million years he fucked up those muscles. But wish him a speedy recovery. Caps need all the help they can get.
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Yea, based on the play I wouldve bet money it was a knee injury
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It's hockey day again! :rofl:
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I saw zero news from the Caps yesterday. I know they had a practice in Tampa.
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They still lack talent. :raspberry: Just saw an article that said 5v5 their "analytics" are better than last year.
They just don't have the talent (consistently) to finish. Hopefully they win again sometime this year. :( lol
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The Caps having the opposite problem they had last year. Last year whole team shooting % was insane despite the talent or metrics. This year, metrics are not terrible, but nothing is going in. So many guys had career years last year and MANY of them invisible so far this year.
They have played better than their record, but it just isn't getting winning results (the opposite of last year)
Other than Wilson (who brings it EVERY night, makes a difference every game, AND is getting results), only maybe Chychrun, and Stromer are performing up to snuff. Protas is doing okay, but not scoring like last year. Everyone else is way behind where they were last year. Leonard has 3G, 4A which I dont think is bad for his experience, age and especially ice time. He is visible every game with scoring opportunities. If we were hanging our hat on him to make up the scoring, shame on us, but I dont really think that is the case.
Thompson has been excellent too, but he's not our scoring problem. (Lindgren though...oof - so much for a tandem 1A 1B)
But hey, tonight we play Canes so that will cure our scoring woes for sure, Canes are always easy to score against. And then its Panthers and Devils, so I feel a win streak is eminent. :wackysmile:
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McMike, Dubois and Protas are all behind. Dubois out fucks up all top 3 lines.
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Looking at the box score from the Canes game...you can see who the coaches trust out there with TOI. I know it varies and skewed by PP and PK. and there were 5 of each last night which is a lot.
Wilson 32 shifts, 22:02 TOI
McMike 29 shifts, 18:06 TOI (he must be getting Dubois load in TOI anyway)
Dowd 24 shifts, 17:27 TOI (big for essentially 4th line C)
Duhaime 24 shifts, 16:40 TOI
Protas 29 shifts, 16:33
Strome 20 shifts, 16:12
Beuvy 19 shifts, 14:53
Ovie 22 shifts, 14.48
Frank 18 shifts, 12:37
Leonard 14 shifts, 9:19
Sourdiff 11 shifts, 7:18 TOI
Lappy 10 shifts, 6:28 TOI
Roy lead the D with 25 shifts, 25:15 TOI
Carlson 25 shifts, 22:51 TOI
Chychrun 23 shifts, 19:09 (4 PIM)
Sandin 24 shifts, 19:09
Fever 21 shifts, 17:11 (7 minutes in the box)
Chisholm 19 shifts, 14:02
Our 4th line gets way more minutes than our third, much of that is Dowd and Duhaime are PK guys, but I'd say overall thats an unusual stat for NHL team. I looked back over 5-6 games and its a little more even in games we win or are ahead, but our 4th line consistently gets more minutes than 3rd.
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I saw him on the bench last night. I guess it's official today. (prolly took them a bit to do some background checking) ;)
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-name-patrick-wellar-assistant-coach
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Looking at the box score from the Canes game...you can see who the coaches trust out there with TOI.
It's malpractice what Carbs is doing to Leonard. Feels like Laviolette. If we had a full roster he probably wouldn't even get a sweater. Meanwhile, he's +2 had an Assist on 5 shots vs the Canes and has 2G 5A in last 11 games. And still barely gets any ice. :-\
https://twitter.com/FrankTheTank454/status/1988437864380518768 (https://twitter.com/FrankTheTank454/status/1988437864380518768)
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Leonard got 15:08 of ice time last night, and led the team with 7 shots. He was pretty noticeable, but like Mick said...he needs to bury one. (Him and about 12 other guys). Lenny plays much more physical than I expected out of him, he does make mistakes, but I don't mind his SHOOT mentality - we don't have enough of that going around. 3G, 5A in 17 games (with limited TOI) is not bad - 8th overall on the team in total points (which is terribly anemic compared to most teams)
Ice time distribution was more balanced last night all around.
Dowd only got 10:39, but double minor and chasing a lead probably dictated your 4th line guys not getting much ice. Frank 9:07
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Glad he finally got some ice! He's got the "it" factor, all but the goals actually going in. Hopefully he'll find his shot soon.. None of our supposed "guns" are very accurate at the moment. McMike 1g on the season. :-( Protas been cold for a couple weeks now too. :-( But we'll always have Dewey!! :wackysmile:
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The NHL took away Marchands goal last night, but still gave him the primary assist. He still gets his 1000th point. Fuck him.
O fer 2 on the PP, 3 fer 5 on the PK
As long as they stay close to .500, they have a chance. Theyve overcome worse to make the playoffs so they could lose in the first round. The PP is now 8 fer 55, %14.8, 29th
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Yes, I'm not giving up all hope, but this team sure doesn't look like a contender. I expect they will improve in both PK and PP, and might make the playoffs, but team sure isn't built for deep playoff run with all the runts on this squad. There are several guys barely on the cusp of the NHL...you are not succeeding in playoff run with 5-6 of these on your squad unless your top 4-5 are going like gangbusters and our top 4-5 don't have that in em.
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Still only 3 pts out. I mean, they play hard. If they had a few weapons that could fire and LT stays sharp, they could be pretty good. But Dubois down hurts and there's a few others they can't do w/o. Any 1 injury can/will/is totally derailing them. Not much skill to begin with and zero depth. Maybe they make a trade to shake things up.. :wackysmile:
Why does this site get attacked by bots but none of the others do? Hopefully it clears up by tomorrow night.
You can't even make this shit up. :rofl:
https://twitter.com/GinoHard_/status/1989441230401622165 (https://twitter.com/GinoHard_/status/1989441230401622165)
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Only the Redskins could do that. Caps couldn't even lose one better than that. Not even the Fl Gators.. Just complete and utter unserious unprofessional suck. Oof.
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Carlson did practice this morning after missing the Devils game with what the team now says is an upper body injury. He is anticipated to participate in tomorrows morning skate, but him playing tomorrow night is still not guaranteed. Last night Chychrun had 28:22 of ice time and Roy had 24:28. It was a 65 minute game.
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Dowd will not travel with the team to Montreal and will be reevaluated when the team gets back on Friday. People who watched the Wednesday morning practice think thats when the injury happened. The team is calling it upper body.
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Well that sucks. Hate those mystery injuries.
On the flip side. He'll be 36 when his contract is up after next season. Im sure when we got Sourdif, 4th line C wasn't the hope for him. But he did a heck of a job in that position last night. Haven't paid attention to his faceoff stats, but if he could learn how to win faceoffs, he'd be a nice replacement for Dowd.
https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/1991344805297942981
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On the flip side. He'll be 36 when his contract is up after next season. Im sure when we got Sourdif, 4th line C wasn't the hope for him. But he did a heck of a job in that position last night. Haven't paid attention to his faceoff stats, but if he could learn how to win faceoffs, he'd be a nice replacement for Dowd.
:huh:
Sourdif is a rookie, listed as a 23yo. He has played fewer NHL games than Leonard.
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:huh:
Sourdif is a rookie, listed as a 23yo. He has played fewer NHL games than Leonard.
That Ole Redneck was referring to Dowder I think....he is getting long in the tooth (Dowd, not the ole redneck....well both are, but I was referring to Dowd)
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could be, Im still absorbing my morning coffee
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Me thinks ol boy's drinks the "Irish" coffee, if ya know what I mean.. :snicker:
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8)
theres still quite a bit of coffee in it
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You mean you have some coffee with your whiskey? 8-0 lol I tried it but didn't like it. "Irish creme" or some shit. Just wasn't for me.
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You mean you have some coffee with your whiskey? 8-0 lol I tried it but didn't like it. "Irish creme" or some shit. Just wasn't for me.
My wife and mother in law drink that shit (Baileys)...like its some sort of acceptable afternoon tea. If you want a drink, have a drink! Don't have to pretend its afternoon coffee on my account.
Although....now that my wife discovered she likes to sip the American Honey - the bottle is always damn near Empty - SO go the hell back to your Baileys woman!
At least she hasn't started in on the bourbon yet.
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You mean you have some coffee with your whiskey? 8-0 lol I tried it but didn't like it. "Irish creme" or some shit. Just wasn't for me.
I cant stand black coffee. Its gotta have cream and sugar.. or, some Carolanns. A very similar product to Baileys, but half the cost. Important when I started working from home, its a cost/quantity thing. Its good in coffee and hot chocolate, but if you are playing home bartender Baileys is the better product.
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At least she hasn't started in on the bourbon yet.
:rofl:
I cant stand black coffee. Its gotta have cream and sugar..
Same here, but I had to give up sugar. :( Unless Im fishing.. :snicker:
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Okay Beags, you got Milano TWO goals, and Frank 2G 2A, and even Sandin had an assist, but even better was a +4 on the night.
Lappy actually got 2 assists and was a +2, but I thought he was pretty invisible - He only got 6:39 TOI so we need you to keep working on him please.
Mick wants you to work your magic on Fever - he was -3 in an 8-4 win, and has been off lately.
Little odd in 8G affair; Wilson, Beavy, Sourdiff, McMike, Frank and Duhaime all had 0 points last night. Definitely need to shine a little of your Beags sunshine on McMike still.
Does Sourdiff have an NHL goal yet? I really only figured him for a 3rd/4th line role player and was not expecting him to be a scorer, but 1 now and then would be nice. He works hard, just seems to have a puck fumble problem near the goal line
(I went and looked it up, he does have 2 Goals this year) Lappy, Chisholm, BigMac, Dubuois the only guys with 0
Carbs says he doesn't measure a young players success with goals, but 0 for Lappy is a problem
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with the recent goal explosion, we now have a 3 way tie for most points on the team
Wilson: 11G 9A
Ovi: 10G 10A
Strome: 5G 15A
Carlson: 4G 15A
Chychrun: 5G 12A
Chychrun is +14, Strome +13 putting them in top 10 in NHL +/-
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Sourdif has 3 career NHL goals, 1 as a Cap. I looked it up, because the other night they were making a big deal about him getting his first NHL assist.
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As I noted last night, Douglas spent the first 10 minutes of the 3rd in penalty box and the last 10 minutes glued to the bench. Tampa was down 4 forwards most of the 3rd. Kucherov, Douglas, Point had one short shift to start the 3rd, and Declan had two shifts for a 2 minute TOI.
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/11/22/tom-wilson-curtis-douglas-fight-capitals-lightning/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/11/22/tom-wilson-curtis-douglas-fight-capitals-lightning/)
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It's kind of a bummer Wilson is so important to our on ice production. Still good to see him beat some ass every once in a while!
They were discussing Wilson (not) making team Canada on twitter, after the Habs game.. I said he's one of, if not THE best power forward in the NHL, why wouldn't he make their team? I asked if he was too tough for Canada or something. lol Someone said "would you rather have Tom Wilson or Sam Bennett?? I was goooonna reply I'd take Wilson in a heart beat if you had to pick just 1..
Unfortunately, in the meantime, I got suspended from the Twit for a week (again) ::) :snicker:
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coach is done with the dismal PP, lines at practice this morning..
PP1: Ovechkin, Strome, Leonard, Sourdif, Chychrun
PP2: Lapierre, Milano, Frank, Beauvillier, Carlson
This tells me Milano and Frank have earned some playing time. But, Carlson remains. I dont necessarily disagree with keeping OV on PP1, but they gotta stop double shifting him. And, Wilson and McMike didnt practice today so they will likely still be on the PP.
:huh:
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Glad he's finally coming around. Weird it took so long to TRY the PP1 w/o Carlson on it. He and Chych both seemed like defensive overkill. I understand some old guard honor or whatever, but we're 1/4 of the way through the season. Should of tried this week 1. Not sure it'll make much difference, we're not exactly super skilled, but at this point anything short of firing the Special teams coach is worth a look. If it doesn't work, they really need to find someone else to coach ST's and see if that helps.
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After beating Columpus last night the Caps are 4th in the metro and 4 points out of 1st place.
and its not technically thanksgiving yet
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Tom Wilson leads the Caps in Goals, Points, PPG, Hits, PIMS and games so far this season.
And is a ? for making team Canada. Who in their right mind would not want this guy on any team?
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Thompson as well.
But, since the Caps still get blamed for giving that jackass in Pittsburgh a cuncusion, the Caps continue to get screwed. IMO.
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Was it Wilson that knocked him silly? I can't remember, it was so long ago. And yea, Thompson also has some issue with whoever is coaching Canada IIRC. Bunch of twats. I'd like for them to get the opportunity, if they want it. But I'll also be fine with them resting and doing a slow burn for when we play Canadian teams.
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Fehr accidentally ran into him in that outdoor game. Not unlike that play on Leonard the other night. But, Crosby didnt look concussed, and in fact played the very next game 48 hours later where Hedman plastered him head first into the glass after which he definitely looked cuncused.
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https://www.dcbackcheck.com/p/washington-capitals-justin-sourdif-growth (https://www.dcbackcheck.com/p/washington-capitals-justin-sourdif-growth)
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Caps have called up Bogdan Trineyev from Hershey, they moved Dowd to IR to open a roster spot for him.
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-recall-bogdan-trineyev (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-recall-bogdan-trineyev)
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Man, those unknown/undisclosed "upper body" injuries are a pisser. WTF is wrong with Dowd?? Thought he was day to day and practicing in full contact jersey?
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Any word on Dowd at all? I never heard what happened, he was out a few games, then moved to IR
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Ive not seen anything on Dowds injury, just upper body and it apparently happened at practice. It is possible it was a game injury he was trying to play through and made it worse.
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Willy has been named third star of the week. 4 goals and 8 points in 4 games.
https://www.nhl.com/news/topic/3-stars/johnston-hagel-wilson-named-nhl-3-stars-of-week-december-1-2025 (https://www.nhl.com/news/topic/3-stars/johnston-hagel-wilson-named-nhl-3-stars-of-week-december-1-2025)
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This might be a conditioning stint for Zac Funk, he had been injured and missed quite a bit of time. Pinard appears to be a recent callup from SC and is going back. But, its seems something else may be in the works for Hershey to open up two roster spots.
https://www.hersheybears.com/news/hershey-sends-pair-of-forwards-to-south-carolina/ (https://www.hersheybears.com/news/hershey-sends-pair-of-forwards-to-south-carolina/)
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Big Willy has 16 goals. that's tied for 6th in NHL. I really hope that pisses a lot of people off.
Pretty impressive for him. one less than guys like Bedard and Kaprizov. one more than Draisaitl. Cindy is having a year with 18g which is 3rd behind Geekie (20) and McKinnon (22)
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We escaped LA with the Dub. Now watch us get run over by the Sharks. (Who are apparently are playing a lot better and according to JoeB and Locker, are very young and very fast) Coming on the backend of backtobacks, it could get interesting. Chucky needs to be on point!!
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Nothing official from the Caps yet. It seems the entire organization is working on west coast time. But, according to Sammy, Trineyev has been sent back to Hershey so Dowd could be moved off of IR.
At 6:06, Trineyev is now listed on the Hershey roster, so its official. The question is who sits so Dowd can play.
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I'd guess Milano or Lappi.
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I would assume coach moves McMike back to wing over Sourdif. And Milano has been more visible on the ice than Lappy.
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solves that problem for a few games..
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/12/04/justin-sourdif-miss-time-john-carlson-injury-update/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/12/04/justin-sourdif-miss-time-john-carlson-injury-update/)
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Damn, he was playing good too. Hope it's a speedy recovery!
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Caps jumped into 1st place in the East. Guess that happens when you go 9-1 in last ten games.
Very tight all through the East with Caps in 1st with 36 pts, but there's only 5 pts separating Caps (36) and 12th place Detroit (31), with ten teams between them most with 32-34 pts and most have a game in hand on the Caps.
Still nice to be on the winning side
Avalanche lost in regulation to the Isles yesterday ending there 17 game point streak. Only the second regulations loss for the Avs this YEAR!
McDavid with a hattie yesterday and the Oilers scored 9 goals on Grubby in net for Seattle. Ouch. Too bad Edmonton has yet to find a goalie....they could might go somewhere in the playoffs. won 9-4
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Mick, what is the proper way to say the Hamlin/Jordan team name? Ive always heard it called 23 11. This guy has called them 23 X I while covering the law suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV4Z-tro_Xg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV4Z-tro_Xg)
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I must say I'm pleasantly surprised at how the team is playing right now. They look good and the fact that we're like 3rd in the league in goals is shocking considering what the roster looks like on paper. Wilson is playing his best hockey, Leonard is really rounding into form (he has great skills) and Ovie on a 40 goal pace? Who would have thought that? Sourdif has also been a nice addition and he seems to have a high hockey IQ from what I've observed. The defense is also stepping up in a big way so far and Thompson has been excellent. Anyway, let's hope it lasts a good while.
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Mick, what is the proper way to say the Hamlin/Jordan team name? Ive always heard it called 23 11. This guy has called them 23 X I while covering the law suit.
X I (It's 11 in roman numeral's. You probably knew that) That law suit is getting crazy. Lot of the old Nascar guard don't think NASCAR can come back from it if they lose. At one time I'd be overly upset, but they've run the sport into the ground. And the evidence (so far) shows just what greedy fucks they are. People won't stop racing stock cars, so if they do fold or whatever, Im sure someone will build something new. And hopefully get back some roots! :cross: (And if Nascar wins, they say 23 XI (and the other team in the suit) will fold within 2 years, if not sooner)
I must say I'm pleasantly surprised at how the team is playing right now.
IMO, the last few games they've looked Cup worthy. It's weird seeing them all play so well. Im sure it'll even out, it's hockey, but if they start slumping again it's gonna extra suck cause now we know what they're capable of. lol
News nugget.
https://twitter.com/rmnb/status/1997029603840541139
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https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/12/05/parker-milner-emergency-goalie-retired-stingrays-charlie-lindgren-injury/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/12/05/parker-milner-emergency-goalie-retired-stingrays-charlie-lindgren-injury/)
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X I (It's 11 in roman numeral's. You probably knew that) That law suit is getting crazy. Lot of the old Nascar guard don't think NASCAR can come back from it if they lose. At one time I'd be overly upset, but they've run the sport into the ground. And the evidence (so far) shows just what greedy fucks they are. People won't stop racing stock cars, so if they do fold or whatever, Im sure someone will build something new. And hopefully get back some roots! :cross: (And if Nascar wins, they say 23 XI (and the other team in the suit) will fold within 2 years, if not sooner)
Its been said for a couple decades that Tony George ruined open wheel racing on this continent. The France family learned nothing from it.
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The Caps players were off today, which for some reason means everyone in the front office that works the website and social media is also off.
Today Hershey called up Mitch Gibson from South Carolina, apparently expecting the Caps to call up a spare goalie. If they havent already.
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As I was saying.. :( Guess we'll suck again now.
https://twitter.com/BaileyAJohnson_/status/1997701110858146251
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Why didnt he see the doctors yesterday :huh: :raised-eyebrow:
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The Caps have called up forward Bogdan Trineyev and goalie Clay Stevenson today.
Leonard and Lindgren were both placed on IR today, will be out for 7 days. Id guess Lindy is retroactive to Friday, Leonard shouldve started yesterday.
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Wasn't anything to do with his head after all.. Get well soon kid!!
https://twitter.com/rmnb/status/1997918638373065045
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not technically illegal but highly dangerous.. where have I heard that before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2SE0HZu40A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2SE0HZu40A)
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Aargh.
Leonard with his arm in a sling rather than a cast is probably a bad thing. If he had a broken bone, that wouldn't be good, but it would be a closed ended injury - X weeks out, and then you are healed and back. If this is a separated shoulder or some kind of ligament/tendon damage in the shoulder, these are the types of injuries that can affect you for the rest of your career. Shoulder injuries are very problematic for hockey players.
That being said, I'm just guessing what the nature of the injury is. We'll never know for sure, because the organization will never specify the injury beyond upper body.
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The Caps sent Clay Stevenson back to Hershey and called up goalie Garin Bjorklund today.
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Aargh.
Leonard with his arm in a sling rather than a cast is probably a bad thing.
Im gonna hope for a collarbone, which can't be cast. (and w/o surgery apparently) Would be out 4-6 weeks. :cross:
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https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/12/08/nhl-deputy-commissioner-bill-daly-ice-quality-concerns-2026-winter-olympics/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/12/08/nhl-deputy-commissioner-bill-daly-ice-quality-concerns-2026-winter-olympics/)
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Detroit (35pts) skipped past Tampa to take the Lead in the Atlantic division. When was the last time the Wings led a division?
Caps hold onto 1st in division, and all the east with (39pts), and 3rd in the NHL behind Avalanche (48) and Dallas (45). Avs have lost only 2 in regulation in 29 games this season.
Nashville (24pts) in the cellar of the league with HALF as many standing pts as Colorado.
I'm bored ...2 more days yet til Caps hockey.
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Awesome. :-|
https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/1998785218996748714
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i saw carbs presser after practice - he said its nothing (re- Chychrun).
Asked about Lenny - no update today, but there will be info forthcoming and he will miss significant time....wtf ever that means, but don't sound good
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My guess is he's done for at least a month, if not 2-4... :sick:
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Coach has said a significant amount of time before and it was less than a month. Hes usually refreshingly honest about things, but his injury times are still vague.
But, that sling says 4-6 weeks to me.
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We will take it!! Let it heal 100%. Don't need no Jayden Daniels'esk bull shit going on.
https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/1999146447518748720 (https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/1999146447518748720)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYmvqTBt7NM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYmvqTBt7NM)
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Nascar bent the knee cause they were gonna get run out of business. "Heard" 23XI/Front Row got around 90% of what they were after. Now all the other pussy teams that didn't risk anything get to reap the rewards. lol
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NASCAR and the France family were going to get screwed if they didnt settle. Discovery is a bitch, and they had already let too much out.
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They still need to clean house over there. You can't get rid of Jim France, but the other head execs need to go. Too much damage been done with their texts going public.
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Anything short of the France family stepping down isnt going to make much of a difference in the next 10 years.
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The Caps have invited Oshie to help with the shootout skills..
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/12/12/capitals-tj-oshie-shootout-consultant/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2025/12/12/capitals-tj-oshie-shootout-consultant/)
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Should of brought in Matt Hendrix to teach em' the leg kick.. These guys don't have Oshie level skills. :snicker:
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I got a thing tonight, Im not sure what time I will be back.
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Bahaa, imagine that.. :rofl:
https://twitter.com/rmnb/status/2000608266674479612
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meh, i watched that interview, and the article makes it sounds like this was next in Carb's plan, but really it was more of a what if scenario...like there's 30 seconds left in OT and you have an o-zone face off, and you are facing a monster SO team who has lots of SO success...then do you consider getting more aggressive and pulling the goalie.
The fact that you lose the standings point if you lose in OT, tells me this would be very unlikely that you pull your goalie.
I don't think I realized you didn't get the point if you lost in OT. Makes me even more nervous in OT now.
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meh, i watched that interview, and the article makes it sounds like this was next in Carb's plan, but really it was more of a what if scenario...like there's 30 seconds left in OT and you have an o-zone face off, and you are facing a monster SO team who has lots of SO success...then do you consider getting more aggressive and pulling the goalie.
The fact that you lose the standings point if you lose in OT, tells me this would be very unlikely that you pull your goalie.
I don't think I realized you didn't get the point if you lost in OT. Makes me even more nervous in OT now.
You still get a point even if you lose in OT. Otherwise, there would be no need for OTL in the standings. You'd only need a category for SO losses.
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that's what I thought. Then i don't understand WTH the RMNB article was talking about. Losing a point?
So do you lose your OT point if you pull your goalie and lose? :huh:
"Carberys even gone so far as to consider pulling the goalie late in overtime. An extra skater could push the Capitals over the edge for the win, but if opponents score on the empty net, Washington would forfeit the point theyd normally earn for an OT loss."
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I don't remember for sure, but there "may" be a rule about pulling the goalie in OT and not getting the OT point if you do so and lose?
I also didn't listen/read the article. Just saw the headline and chuckled.
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From the 25-26 rule book, it been the rule for quite a few years..
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Shades of NASCAR here. Maple Grove selling to IHRA is akin to Richmond selling to Indy car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doqtVaMretw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doqtVaMretw)
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These big series not using the facilities to their potential is causing this. NHRA came once a year and panders to TF and FC. IHRA is grass roots and will probably triple the usage of Maple Grove. Sucks they'll only be running 1/8 mile though. if RIR wasn't owned by Speeway Corp (Nascar) and there was a good competing series, they'd probably sell too. Nascar is killing RIR. Mainly due to their piece of crap Next Gen car. Down to 1 race a year now.. :-(
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It appears the flu is going through the locker room. Tonights lines will be a game time surprise.
Leonard skated this morning, no contact
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https://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/nascar-legend-greg-biffle-and-family-killed-in-plane-crash/10785565/ (https://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/nascar-legend-greg-biffle-and-family-killed-in-plane-crash/10785565/)
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No bueno. He was such a good person.. Always upbeat and helped so many after hurricane Helene tore through western NC. RIP Greg Biffle and family. :'(
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Mick..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87mpMSjFv58 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87mpMSjFv58)
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Leonard practiced this morning in a full contact sweater
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Mick..
Thanks bro! Been watching a lot of video's about it. One showed the altitudes being a lot more erratic. Like they kept climbing and dropping. (As if the engine would refire, and they'd try to gain altitude, then descend when it cut out.) But from what this guy said it appears it could of just been pilot error with the weather/visibility and gauges possibly not functioning properly. Just a terrible situation for all involved. I also read his wife texted her mom and said "were in trouble".. :-(
Good news about Leno!! Hopefully he doesn't have any setbacks and gets back on the ice sooner than later! I'd guessed around the 3rd of Jan.
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Kid gonna get another shot!
https://twitter.com/Capitals/status/2002137113077428275
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The NTSB does this for every crash, some dont have the media interest. The first 1:45 is dead air..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkTpCMlcpvU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkTpCMlcpvU)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvIBpi6QyW8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvIBpi6QyW8)
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Dude sounds like he knows his stuff! Hopefully they have enough evidence to determine what actually happened.
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Carbery also said everyone but LT is a game time decision. lol Lots of minor injury and illness still going around apparently..
https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/2003491544612159904
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Leonard could play tonight. Coach thinks hes ready, but still needs to be cleared by medical.
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:raised-eyebrow:
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Dang, just looked at standings and Toronto owns the basement in the east - yikes. Somebody gonna get fired pretty soon.
Still though...only 10 pts separate #1 and #16 teams in the east, with a huge log jam in the middle.
Crazy stat: Capitals and Avalanche are the 2 worst OT teams in the league. Both 0-4 in the shootout.
Caps have 1 OT win and 5 losses (0-4 in the SO)
Avs have 2 OT wins and 7 losses (0-4 in the SO)
Doesn't surprise me about the Caps, but the AVS are the best team in Hockey - I am shocked at their OT woes.
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:snicker:
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Toronto fired their PP coach yesterday, Marc Savard of Boston fame
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P37xPiRz1sg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P37xPiRz1sg)
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God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz3XG9uZJNE)
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https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/capitals-prospect-cole-hutson-stretchered-off-at-world-juniors-after-taking-shot-to-back-of-head (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/capitals-prospect-cole-hutson-stretchered-off-at-world-juniors-after-taking-shot-to-back-of-head)
Hutson has been released from the hospital, is listed as day to day by USA hockey
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Dude that sucks. Glad he's been released and is day to day! Definitely looked scary as hell.
https://twitter.com/rmnb/status/2005395218905141449
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https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/wilson-thompson-both-named-to-team-canada (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/wilson-thompson-both-named-to-team-canada)
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The Rock had been on the market for 7 months..
https://www.richmondobserver.com/stories/ihra-announces-purchase-of-rockingham-speedway,77607 (https://www.richmondobserver.com/stories/ihra-announces-purchase-of-rockingham-speedway,77607)
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He did practice this morning..
https://www.nhl.com/news/world-junior-championship-cole-hutson-injury-status-update (https://www.nhl.com/news/world-junior-championship-cole-hutson-injury-status-update)
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The Rock had been on the market for 7 months..
Yea, interested to see what they do with the oval. Not sure if NHRA and Nascar have any ties, but hopefully not. Would love to see an All Star Race or even the Clash (anything Cup series) there. Track was a monster in it's day! 2 grooves, lots of tire wear. Place needs laps on that new asphalt, to get back to how it was.
Nice that Hutson practiced! I've never seen him play.
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Caps have won 3 games in last 10 - Not Good. Their inconsistent mediocre play is resulting in mediocre standings placement
Buffalo is 10-0-0 in last ten to pull into WC spot 8-0
Florida has been better and if they win the "winter" classic tonight will bump the Caps out of WC spot.
Detroit is #1 team in the East, despite having a -4 goal differential
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USA vs Finland 6pm eastern on the NHL channel, Hutson is supposed to play..
https://teamusa.usahockey.com/news_article/show/1352620 (https://teamusa.usahockey.com/news_article/show/1352620)
Overtime loss..
USA 3
Finland 4
Third World Juniors game in a row that USA vs Finland ended 4-3.
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That mean their done or?
Yea Hillbilly, Caps be stinkin' again. :-( lol Least I aint had to hear that stupid cat growl in Fl. yet. Rags up 3-0 in the 2nd.
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They've settled into a beat the stiffs, lose to the good teams routine. That obviously doesn't equate to long term success.
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We're toasted if Wilson is out any length of time.
On the news wire though: "Florida Man" :rofl:
https://twitter.com/rmnb/status/2007284171811750384 (https://twitter.com/rmnb/status/2007284171811750384)
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Shocking news to all I know, but the Caps really don't have that much talent that other teams have to be concerned with.
Short of Wilson and Chychrun....what big talent do we have that another team would fear....or have to worry about? Protus maybe if he gets fully back on track, and his size makes him a challenge to contain
Thompson certainly is a factor, and will surely steal a game now and then (as long as its not in the shootout)
If you are the opposing team what are you seeing in your scouting and film review of the Caps that worries you? Ovi still has that shot now and then, but he's as much a liability as a scoring threat most of the time he's on the ice.
We have exactly one player with 20+ goals Wilson (22)
Protas (16), Ovi (15), Chychrun (15), Strome (10) are next, with nobody else on even a 20 goal/year pace.
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Wilson and Thompson are our only "game changing" weapons.
Good news!! Out tonight, but day to day!!
https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/2008207298838270330 (https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/2008207298838270330)
Can't wait! Hopefully he stomps Trouba's ass!!!
https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/2008205920128614580 (https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/2008205920128614580)
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Shocking news to all I know, but the Caps really don't have that much talent that other teams have to be concerned with.
Short of Wilson and Chychrun....what big talent do we have that another team would fear....or have to worry about? Protus maybe if he gets fully back on track, and his size makes him a challenge to contain
Thompson certainly is a factor, and will surely steal a game now and then (as long as its not in the shootout)
If you are the opposing team what are you seeing in your scouting and film review of the Caps that worries you? Ovi still has that shot now and then, but he's as much a liability as a scoring threat most of the time he's on the ice.
We have exactly one player with 20+ goals Wilson (22)
Protas (16), Ovi (15), Chychrun (15), Strome (10) are next, with nobody else on even a 20 goal/year pace.
Leonard and Sourdif are looking good for the near future.
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Good 1st step.
https://publish.twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/2008546596540305622 (https://publish.twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/2008546596540305622)
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Saw this in interview after last nights game....Leno has some sort of apparatus or pad on his shoulder (under his war road shirt)...
this is on the shoulder he took the hit on from Trouba
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Goddammit Hillbilly. Now everybody will know he's still not 100%. :snicker:
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One would think moonshiners would know when not to run their mouths
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Right? :rofl:
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8-0
https://twitter.com/PeteBlackburn/status/2008765731459027055#
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Wowza! Back to the old days. Looked like Erskin thowing em!
I can't stand normal fighting now. Grab a shoulder and lean back and turn circles. It is just a sham! I say change the rules so that if guys get into a fight and do the circle dance, then they get an extra 10 minute misconduct for wasting all our time.
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They were definitely throwing em...not sure if any of those really connected till the end, but that's a win for Oliver for sure.
Didn't even know Reaves was still in the league TBH.
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Protas was put on IR today, Brett Leason called up. Willy will not play tonight.
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Protas was put on IR today, Brett Leason called up. Willy will not play tonight.
Oh no. They said yesterday Pro was close. I guess not
We don't beat Dallas with both of them out I don't think
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Yea, we don't win many games w/both those guys out. Be nice to float around .500 until they're healthy, but doubtful. :sick:
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Wilson unlikely for tomorrow in Chicago, Protas is a possibility.
This morning in practice Sourdif got a pretty good hit to the face, left early to stop the nose bleed. No update yet. Chychrun also let practice early, no word on why.
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I think Protas only has to miss one more game.
I thought Chicky had a subpar game last night - doesn't happen very often.
I just don't get Lappy. He seems to be skating really well and I think has dramatically improved his skating. He is also stickhandling well and makes pretty good passes. It just seems that he somehow is a zero offensive threat. He is not getting much icetime now, but they haven't scratched him much or at all. Weird.
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Have to think Lappi is getting a sweater (when they're healthy) to make him more appealable in a trade package? Plus his line mates are not all that most nights. If he played between Pro and Wilson, I think he'd have more success.
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Yes Lappy has improved most every part of his game....except that part where he actually scores. Certainly would help if he got to run with some other scorers, but I think he's basically getting a sweater now because we have guys out. Wilson, Protas and Dubuois all get healthy and Lappy is in trouble. Either he or Milano will have to clear waivers to bring back Dubuois.
Sordiff has certainly helped his own cause, so he's staying for sure. Unless Caps doing something with a D man, then one of those two (Lappy/Milano) will have to go. Which one has more trade value? I would think Lappy because of his age, but i dunno. Losing guys on the waiver wire sucks cause you get nothing for them.
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I'd probably keep Milano over Lappi, tbh.. He's inconsistent like most of them, but you can see he's got a little "it" factor every now and then. Both of them get pushed over by a feather, but he has some good moments along the boards every now and then. Never really notice Lappi doing anything. He shows up with an assist or something, but as far as making a play against a defender, I just don't see/recall much of anything. I do have CRS though, so who knows.. :wackysmile:
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Wilson skated in a no contact sweater this morning, Protas appeared to have a normal practice. Still waiting to see if Leason gets sent back to Hershey.
Bedard is supposed to play for Chicago tonight after missing 12 games to injury.
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On Lappy vs Milano, I think they keep Lappy. They have a first round draft pick invested in him and won't want to admit defeat. Milano can show some scoring ability every now and then, but he is very inconsistent. I had really hoped that Lappy would blossom this year like McMike did last year, but it is just not happening. I think his future is to get traded to a lousy team and become an average player for them.
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Protas has been activated from IR. Wilson has been put on IR, retroactively, and will be eligible to play Sunday. Leason stays, for now.
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https://brobible.com/sports/article/ahl-hershey-bears-mites-on-ice-brawl/ (https://brobible.com/sports/article/ahl-hershey-bears-mites-on-ice-brawl/)
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From morning skate, sounds like Chych is on the ice, but not on either PP (Game time decision) and no Sourdif or Wilson tonight. Joy! :-\
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What's it now, 80-81 straight games that Lapierre has not scored in? Why in hell is he here while Protas, Jr. is in Hershey? Imagine going the equivalent of a whole season without scoring. It's tough to do.
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awe man, no Wilson or Sourdiff? We gonna get manhandled by the Fn Canadiens?. Quick, somebody call up some them kids from the mites brawl...that goalie maybe
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Caps seriously need to find some replacement D next year. TVR is done. Carlson SHOULD be done. Mac is done.
That's 2 guys from the starting 6, plus the biggest toughest D in the barn.
Chicky is a stud, Roy has been great this year and is very reliable. Fever is off this year, but I believe he will be solid again, Sandin is what he is...a small O-minded puck mover.
TVR is a liability with no real upside. Carlson is a D liability and has lost much of his upside. I really hope he signs elsewhere but I doubt that.
I'm not sure about Chisholm? Maybe he's a bottom 2 D guy that can play 80 games? He just turned 26 so not a youngster, but maybe can still improve.
I don't see any real stand-outs on D in Hershey, but I don't follow them either. Hutson is supposed to be a future star, but he's 19, 5'-10", 165lbs ...(25lbs lighter than Sandin)
Iorio has played 20 games with the Sharks this season - he's not lighting it up, but he's getting 16.25 TOI/G. Not sure we should have let him go. He's 23, 6'-4", 220lbs.
Caps seemingly have quite a few forwards in Hershey with potential - not seeing anything on D that really tickles me.
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Agree on the issues with the D. They will have to look for a good free agent in the summer. Hopefully, they don't do something stupid at the trade deadline. We have to just hope that they don't give Carlson any kind of extension - even if it is cheap. I know some people will say he has been a longtime Cap and the "owe" him an extension so he can finish his career here, but that just ticks me off. They pay these guys millions and millions over a lot of years - and they are "owed" something?
Don't get me wrong, I do value loyalty and love when guys finish their career with one team, but if a player has declined to the point that he is hurting the team, then we don't "owe" him anything.
The one exception to that is Ovi, and I fear we are going to have to do an extension.
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Wilson skated full contact this morning, and Chychrun appears ready as well. Nothing official yet. Frank skated with Strome and OV on line 1.
Sourdif a definite no for Thursday.
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Agree on the issues with the D. They will have to look for a good free agent in the summer. Hopefully, they don't do something stupid at the trade deadline. We have to just hope that they don't give Carlson any kind of extension - even if it is cheap. I know some people will say he has been a longtime Cap and the "owe" him an extension so he can finish his career here, but that just ticks me off. They pay these guys millions and millions over a lot of years - and they are "owed" something?
Don't get me wrong, I do value loyalty and love when guys finish their career with one team, but if a player has declined to the point that he is hurting the team, then we don't "owe" him anything.
The one exception to that is Ovi, and I fear we are going to have to do an extension.
I agree on all this...I feel bad about not wanting a guy back that has "given" so much to this team (Carlson), but to put it in perspective.....He has career earnings of $89 million!. Okay, i don't feel bad anymore...send him packing. DON'T re-sign him. :snicker:
If he really wants to stay and feels loyalty to stay, then he should play a 1 year 1 million dollar contract - he could mentor younger guys and help the team. I bet he wants $6-7m though.
Ovi is a bit different in that he IS still scoring, AND let's face it he MADE this franchise what it is, and the best ever goal scorer to ever play. I mean he's old and slow, but his job is to score, and he still does that. Not quite like he used to, but 35G a year is still pretty damn good for anyone, much less his old ass. Limiting his minutes has helped his game I think. People do still flock to the rinks everywhere to see him play....so he does have some other value - marketing or $$$$ putting butts in seats.
I expect Ovi will play next year unless something happens before end of season.
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I wouldn't want Carlson back if he played for $1. I'm sure that he is well liked in the lockerroom and is a good guy. They big problem with him, besides his defensive lapses, is his casual attitude and lack of fire. I think for years the Caps have lacked guys that will do anything to win - run through fire, run over their mother, etc... We need more of that now and Carlson is the exact opposite. We also need to let Chychrun run this defense and step into a bigtime leadership role - without Carlson.
I am coming to believe that Ovi will be back. I can not explain how he has 20 goals so far as his skllls have really fallen off. He can't skate, and is missing on a ton of shots - many times just whiffing. He must be getting in the right places and there is a talent to that, but if he was even close to having the same shot skills he would have 40 goals. I think if you subtracted his empty net goals and 2 or three that have hit him on the way to the goal, he really only has about 10 good goals this year.
The other question with Ovi, is if he does come back, what kind of money would he want? Would he do a team-friendly deal that would theoretically help us be a Cup contender - say $7-8 million, or would his pride say he needs to be the top paid player? Whatever he demands - maybe $15M - then Leonsis has to pay it. There is no way he could/would let Ovi not finish our with the Caps on a high note.
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good thought Beags. I didn't think about Carlson holding back (at least on some level) Chicky's leadership.
Agree on Ovi as well. I think he will be back unless something really changes dramatically in the 2nd half of the season. He really doesn't look great out there, but somehow he does score. There is a bit of fire every now and then and he does rip a rocket on occasion (I think his last PPG in a game we got destroyed was a real gem), but yeah somehow he manages to get goals despite his seemingly stumbling efforts.
I would hope he would do a somewhat friendly deal. How bout the nice number 8...million. THat's what I had in my head. I certainly would hope he wouldn't want to be a top cheese player salary at this age and level he is playing, but who knows.
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Agree agree.. Though, Carlson could replace TVR, Mac or Chiz for around 3.5m and I'd not mind. (doubt he'd go for that # though) But it's the responsibility shifts he gets that piss me off. He's just not that guy anymore. If Sandin could find the net once in a while and learn to setup Ovi on the PP, that's all that needed to replace Carlson.
And, no surprise here that Ovi still scores goals now and then.. He's the GREAT FUCKING 8 :raised-eyebrow: :snicker:
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Last night was another miserable game where they played lazy and stupid. I think they got exposed for being a slow old team as the 18 year olds skated circles around them.
Dowd had his worst game - slow and in the wrong spots and lousy at faceoffs. Seemed like we didn't win a faceoff all night.
Strome had a rotten game as well. Other than chipping in the goal, he was terrible. He lost the puck that lead to a goal and his skating is just like molasses.
And Carlson ...... a perfect example of his casual attitude was him skating back a couple steps behind the guy heading to the net on the third goal. All he had to do was skate a little bit to catch up and at least hook the guy. Instead, he just glides around. If they re-sign him, ........ aaaarrrg!
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Boys sure don't smell like Napalm in the morning lately.Yes Carlson was bad yesterday. Dowd was a clown show. Carlson got 1 penalty (at least) that was from just lazy play - trying to stick check Celebrini blowing by him instead of hustling.
I was starting to wonder if Carlson is nursing something because he does seem worse lately, slower and less hustle then usual, etc...or maybe he's disgruntled because they aren't contract talking - but then how would we know if they are. If it's just pure aging causing the decline, then we need to run the other way from him.
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Rumor this afternoon is Carlson and Caps management are talking about a contract extension.
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Just watched 20ish minute interview with GM....was hoping it was announcing something, but no...
Carlsons name came up and they are talking to him contract wise ::)
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Carbery is playing them with one hand tied behind their back. Starting to set lines like he does in OT or SO's.. Leonard on the 4th line 2/3 of the night. McMike getting less than 16 minutes TOI.. It's like he's trying to punish them or something, by handicapping the entire team. We just don't have the resources to do stupid shit. Ovi, Strome and Pro should not be getting 5-6 more minutes (20+) a game than Leo and McMike. Leonard should be leading the forwards in ice time. 4 of the last 5 games we can't break the 2 goal mark in regulation. And don't see Leonard with Dowd and Beauvi fixing any of that. Just suspect decision making, again, from coach.. :-\
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I think Carbs is a lot about playing the right way and defensive responsibility. (not unlike the Dale Hunter coaching experiment) Partly....because he KNOWS we have a lack of talent.
But hell yeah, I'm like play the young skill guys and let the old guys rest.
Fine line between being responsible and giving the guys enough leash to go out and win when we know we are short on talent. Carbs mantra seems to be...if you can be responsible enough, we will give you more minutes, but damn SOMEONE has to score, so put some guys out there that can.
Everyone has to play a two-way game to be successful, but you can't make everyone a defensive specialist. Some of the guys are here to score goals.
Especially with the age of some of this team, I would be giving more ice to Leno, McMike, Frank, etc.
Hell I'd like to see Leno, McMike and Frank on a line together...speed kills and these guys would dance around some dudes. Yeah they be a liability defensively, but IF you could actually get the puck in the O-zone, the enemy rarely scores from there.
My lines for the next game:
Ovi - Strome - Beauvy
Protas - Sourdiff - Wilson
Leonard - McMike - Frank
Duhaime - Dowd - Leason
Although....Sourdiff is not gonna play (per Carbs today). Put Lappy with Willy and Protas and give the kid a shot - or move McMike up and put Lappy with Leno and Frank - fn GENERATE some O!
Let's Fucking GO!!!!!!!
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Yea, if they were -constantly- irresponsible on D or something it may make some sense. But all 4 of those guys, Lappi, McMike, Frank and Leno are decent defensively, imo. And they all hustle! You can't punish guys every time they make a mistake. Chychrun, Carlson, Ovi etc. don't get their minutes reduced for fucking up. Hell, last night Leno entered the O zone (on 4th line) and 3 guys went to him. lol He may learn to protect or play better D, but he damn sure aint gonna score many that way. And we aint winning many games on 2 goals a night. :(
Im reserving hope that after the Olympics we'll finally get "healthy" and go on a tear.. :rofl:
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The team just isn't serious if it's extending Carlson. Now, I here they're in the market to pick up some veteran forward like they're tweaking for a SC run. It's a joke. This group needs big turnover. At least half the defense and probably 6-7 guys up front if you're being honest. I'm really hoping Ovie retires. He's done everything he set out to do and hanging around now is simply going to take the shine off. He should go out on top and not get to where he's embarrassing himself on the ice and not helping the team. That is not far off from what I'm seeing. They need to look ahead, think youth and speed and let the old guard ride into the sunset.
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Yea, if they were -constantly- irresponsible on D or something it may make some sense. But all 4 of those guys, Lappi, McMike, Frank and Leno are decent defensively, imo. And they all hustle! You can't punish guys every time they make a mistake. Chychrun, Carlson, Ovi etc. don't get their minutes reduced for fucking up. Hell, last night Leno entered the O zone (on 4th line) and 3 guys went to him. lol He may learn to protect or play better D, but he damn sure aint gonna score many that way. And we aint winning many games on 2 goals a night. :(
Im reserving hope that after the Olympics we'll finally get "healthy" and go on a tear.. :rofl:
Lapierre is currently at 83 consecutive games without a goal. Only 3 forwards in NHL history have gone longer and they were all enforcer types. This is a total embarrassment and to be wasting one of our 12 forward roster spots on him, is ludicrous.
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Lapierre is currently at 83 consecutive games without a goal. Only 3 forwards in NHL history have gone longer and they were all enforcer types. This is a total embarrassment and to be wasting one of our 12 forward roster spots on him, is ludicrous.
And this is why losing Dubois hurts so much. We don't have a true 2C now. Sourdif has played pretty well in that role, but he's just getting acclimated. Dowd has been dragged up a line for most of the season, where he doesn't belong. McMichael was better last year on the wing, even though he seems to prefer playing center. AND the Caps have been forced to use LaPierre when he just hasn't been able to give them much of anything. The effect of not having an effective DuBois cascades down through the entire forward lineup.
Promisingly enough, even though Hershey isn't all that great this season (the career AHL'ers they signed to fill out the roster this year haven't been as good as they've had in years past), the two best forwards have been the youngsters, Cristall and Protas. But Cristall is not a Center, and Protas, though he's been very good as a center at Hershey, is only 19 and probably needs the full year of seasoning at least.
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Lapierre is currently at 83 consecutive games without a goal. Only 3 forwards in NHL history have gone longer and they were all enforcer types. This is a total embarrassment and to be wasting one of our 12 forward roster spots on him, is ludicrous.
Yea, that's some voodoo witchcraft jinx shit he's got himself into. lol Getting a sweater out of necessity at the moment, Im sure.
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He needs to sacrifice a chicken.
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The whole team needs to sacrifice a chicken.
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Bro is definitely touching the tiki idol.. IYKYK. :snicker:
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And this is why losing Dubois hurts so much. We don't have a true 2C now. Sourdif has played pretty well in that role, but he's just getting acclimated. Dowd has been dragged up a line for most of the season, where he doesn't belong. McMichael was better last year on the wing, even though he seems to prefer playing center. AND the Caps have been forced to use LaPierre when he just hasn't been able to give them much of anything. The effect of not having an effective DuBois cascades down through the entire forward lineup.
Promisingly enough, even though Hershey isn't all that great this season (the career AHL'ers they signed to fill out the roster this year haven't been as good as they've had in years past), the two best forwards have been the youngsters, Cristall and Protas. But Cristall is not a Center, and Protas, though he's been very good as a center at Hershey, is only 19 and probably needs the full year of seasoning at least.
Protas, Jr. has to be better than Lapierre and probably a bunch of other guys. Let him get seasoning up here.
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I think the Sharks had 3 guys that were 19 and under. Heck, at this point, put in big Mac at center!
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Caps continue to fall in the standings...virtually every other team is climbing.
13 of the 15 other teams in the east have a better record over the last 10 games, with only Philthy having the same record as the Caps, and the Rags 1 point worse off.
Caps now 11th out of 16 teams in the East, but 4/5 below them have 1 or 2 games in hand and trail by 1, 2, 3, 3, 6 pts.
Caps are 13 points out of 1st place and 6 pts above dead last (currently the Rangers), and certainly not trending in the right direction.
Not sure a 6 game road trip is gonna help, but the boys need to sack up. Starting in Colorado is kind of a kick is the junk way to start a long road trip.
Vancouver is struggling also, and lost their 11th game in a row. Maybe the Caps can extend that, but that losing streak has to end as some point. Who is more desperate for a win?
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Our age and lack of speed has been exposed more and more these last 5 games or so. We are just an average team and need to hit the reset button. Even with PLD and Willy back, this team is not close to a Cup contender.
I'm just hoping that management realizes the situation and doesn't think we are one good offensive player away from contending - and do some stupid stuff at the trade deadline. We need to be sellers if anything.
I'm not far off from rooting for losses to better our draft position......
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Definitely not 1 piece away. Our D is horrible. Our goalies carry us most games.
Carlson/TVR are too slow, Sandin too small, something is off/wrong with Fever. Chychrun and Roy are about the only ones I think are fairly solid at the moment.
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Mick you right about Fever - he used to be my favorite, most stable, hard hitting D we had. He hasn't been the same this year, and I surely hope its not the injury last year that he's just not ever going to be the same. He still seem to have the speed (that I never realized he had) so not sure what it is. Hope he can return to the form he once was. Maybe it's his pairings and he has to try and do too much to cover for TVR or Carlson, or Sandin or whoever, and he gets himself out of position trying to cover instead of just having to worry about himself?
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Caps are more than one player away for sure. Well, currently they are two of our own players away; Wilson and PLD, and both with make a huge difference, but not enough.
Willy makes a difference on the ice every game, and every player on both teams knows it. PLD will make a big impact (assuming we get the good PLD back) in that you won't have mediocre inadequate guys playing spots and minutes they aren't worthy of. Sourdiff has been great, but he's not a 2C, neither is McMike or Lappy or Dowd or anyone else we've tried. PLD at 2C and Willy back puts the mediocre guys back in places they should be and fills out our top two lines much better, but even at that, we DO have a team full of mediocre guys and we need a real top line goal scorer.
I like many of these guys, but if you filled my team with a bunch of strangers and they made us a reasonable contender, I'd learn to like them too.
In Rich's Fantasy Land, I'm keeping for next season:
Willy, Ovi, Protus, PLD, Leonard, Sourdiff, Strome, McMike
Chychrun, Roy, Fever
Thompson for sure, fine with Lindy as well
I would entertain a trade for McMike, PLD, even Strome if there were serious active interest. Ovi is basically untradeable, and I think will play one more year which I can tolerate given what he has done for this franchise. He is untradeable, but also limits what we can do with him in the lineup.
I would actively seek a trade for Carlson this year - he could be decent trade bait for a contender; possible help in a SC run, yet no contract to worry over. Same for TVR except I don't see him as an asset to anyone wanting to strengthen their playoff run.
Sandin I would gladly part with as well if someone wanted him for some sort of return.
Frank, Beauvy, Duhaime all work really hard, but wouldn't be heartbroken if they were traded. I'd certainly give Frank a shot next year at a reasonable contract if he's not traded. He's a decent 3rd line guy with some scoring potential. Duhaime is a utility guy with lots of grit, and love him but he has little impact.
Carlson, TVR, Dowd, Milano, Lappy - I don't want to see any of these guys in a Caps sweater next season.
The REALITY is....ALL these scrubs will be back next year except for maybe the few UFA's; Milano, Frank, Duhaime, TVR
Carlson is a UFA but the Caps are going to overpay him for a ridiculous long albatross contract. (Please please prove me wrong)
Frank has played well enough someone will pick him up this summer. Milano might get a job with someone. TVR - I just don't know. He might be good enough for some teams bottom pairing, but I don't want it to be the Caps
McMike and Lappy are RFA's. McMike will certainly get an offer somewhere if we don't keep him, but Lappy - oof, someone will offer him a contract.
The Caps have never been a big trade kind of team. Never seen them really do a rebuild. Probably the biggest moves I can ever really recall are when they went after PLD and Chicky. PLD was better than expected, and we offloaded a bad (for us) goalie at the same time. Chicky was a great acquisition.
I hesitate to recall the Jagr experiment which was a failure, but at least was an effort at a top echelon talent.
With so many teams still in the hunt, I would think it would be a sellers market so let's take advantage of that NOW.
Wait...who got me started down this rabbit hole...filled with nothing but fantasy and future disappointment?
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Yesterday I noticed Miroshnichenko is not on the roster at the team website. He wasnt listed at Hershey either so I assume hes still with the Caps. Same for this morning. Did anyone notice if the Caps ever added him to the website? They have a strong and recent history of not adding callups to the team website, though they did add Leason.
Miro needs to be sent down to activate Wilson.
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Rich - I agree with all of your comments.
It's funny, I was thinking the same thing on Fever. He was my favorite and has just been off this year. Still playing ok, but has been out of position a lot and something is just not right.
I like the idea of trading Carlson at the deadline. The only way that happens though is if the Caps are clearly out of the playoffs and they can sell it like they are doing Carlson a favor and trading him to a team that has a shot at the Cup. Very doubtful that will happen and I fear they will sign him to a 3 year deal for $8M per year.
I actually, don't think we have many guys that are tradeable that would bring much of a return, so I'm not banking on that. We just need to tank and get a top 10 draft pick.
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Beags,
You are right about Carlson and only way to trade him is to sell it like that, but the other thing is he HAS a NMC so he would have to agree to the trade...not sure I see that happening.
We both know its fantasy anyway, and he will be here dragging us down for YEARS to come. :-|
And yes, the only real tradeable guys we have are the very few which we wouldn't want to trade, but that's probably true of most teams.
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Miroshnichenko has been been sent to Hershey. Wilson is in tonight.
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If the Caps trade for Panarin, they are out of their minds.
The tank scenario should be officially underway!
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If the Caps trade for Panarin, they are out of their minds.
Management appears willing to resign Carlson
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green flag is Saturday at 1:40pm eastern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BihDu7xubL4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BihDu7xubL4)
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Need to look and see if there's anyone in the race I recognize this year. Think I heard AJ Allmendinger is in it?
*Allmendinger
*Zillich
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Just thinking ahead to the trade deadline - which I hope the Caps are smart enough to not be buyers. I think the value of draft picks has gone way up in the last few years. The talent is being fully developed at a younger age and we are seeing more and more 18/19 year olds that can really play. Therefore, I think that teams will be lucky to get a second round pick for a really good veteran rental player.
The downside of this is that if the Caps are sellers, they won't get much - maybe a third rounder for a guy or two - so we should just sit it out and try and go with our existing prospects.
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Dubois participated in the team practice today, without a blue jersey
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The roval will not be missed. Still only one race at Richmond, in the middle of august. Genius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYb2SCdwsQ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYb2SCdwsQ8)
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They're supposed to run the Clash this weekend at Bowman Gray. (Winston-Salem, NC) not too optimistic that's gonna happen.
They've made a few decent moves this offseason. 10 races to determine the champion, increased HP (slightly) and got rid of the roval.. Still wish it was full schedule champion, 900+ HP though, but at least they moved the needle a little in the right direction.
They have done away with the "throwback" race at Darlington, which seems stupid. Even though it's played out and teams are now "throwing back" to cars that only ran like 10 years ago, it was still fun to see the nostalgia paint jobs. Think some teams will still do it, but nascar said they won't encourage it or some shit.
Did I mention they want to run at Bowman Gray this weekend? lol Bring that shit back home to Daytona, where it belongs! (It's gonna be 30-50* this weekend in Daytona. I can only imagine upstate NC.)
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The forecast high in Winston-Salem Sunday is 27.
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another 10pm game..
>:(
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another 19pm game..
>:(
You and your military time - you gonna confuse the ole Redneck :huh:
Yeah, I'm not hanging on till the end of this one for sure
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fat thumb syndrome
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Thompson is listed as day to day, speculation is its related to puck he took the head last game. Clay Stevenson has been called up from Hershey.
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These rumors that the Caps are in play on Panerin are just plain nuts. The last thing the Caps need is a 34 year old big money player on the decline. There is no way Panerin would agree to waive his no- trade to the Caps anyway as he will want to go to a team that has a shot at a Cup.
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Yea, were 8 pts out of a wildcard spot now. Tied with 4 teams, trailing 3 more, all with at least 1 game in hand on us, some with 2.
The season's over, we have zero reason to buy anything..
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Yeah, No Fn way - wouldn't make sense for anybody. I was never all that impressed with Panarin. Big Willy could use him for medicine ball workouts though - ragdoll his ass around :snicker:
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This team needs a couple quality centers and 3 or 4 good defensemen. The winger problem should go away with a good center.
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When was the traditional spring race at Martinsville? Late March/ early April? Seemed like they had snow every couple years.
https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2026/01/29/cook-out-clash-saturday-events-postponed-at-bowman-gray-stadium/ (https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2026/01/29/cook-out-clash-saturday-events-postponed-at-bowman-gray-stadium/)
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Late April. I still haven't seen what/when they're gonna do Sunday. I did hear if THAT gets postponed, they'll run Monday, Tues., etc.
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The Panarin trade rumors to the Caps seem to be heating up. Rumor is Lappy, Milano, a first round, a second round and a prospect. Then the Caps sign him for 4 years at $11 million.
I would hate a trade like this. Not so much giving up Lappy and Milano and the prospect but giving a 1st is terrible and worst of all is 4 years at $11M to a 34 year old! We need to get younger!
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The Panarin trade rumors to the Caps seem to be heating up. Rumor is Lappy, Milano, a first round, a second round and a prospect. Then the Caps sign him for 4 years at $11 million.
I would hate a trade like this. Not so much giving up Lappy and Milano and the prospect but giving a 1st is terrible and worst of all is 4 years at $11M to a 34 year old! We need to get younger!
Certainly hope this is nothing but rumor. I don't see Panarin helping us, and no not worth giving up a 1st, 2nd, prospect, Lappy & Milano - that's CRAZY
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That'd be so Washington DC sports to spend all kinds of future for a 34 year old. :clown: :poop: We need to get younger and rebuild properly.
*Fl. gave up a conditional 2nd for Marchand. Boston retained 50% of his salary.
Hopefully Panarin doesn't even want to come to this clown show.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZS-ZUuX1ME (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZS-ZUuX1ME)
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I'll have to watch that video. I saw a report Mark Martin posted on the crash. Reading it, it's still unclear (to me) what happened? Other than 1 engine was hard to start, then wasn't making as much power as the other. And the instruments weren't working right. Audio breaks up so they couldn't hear what the major concern was. Biffle told the pilot to climb higher, before they had official clearance. May of given them enough speed to make it back, if he'd done so? Speculation hard starting engines might of drained battery's to where the instruments were not working properly?
You ever watch SMX (Super Motocross)? I tape them and watch later. Round 1 Malcom Stewart had a bad crash. Dislocated shoulder, broken collar bone, hurt ribs. He was back a week later and finished 10th. Hockey and SMX are the 2 toughest sports imo. Those dudes are nuts. Always getting compound fractures and shit on their forearms, hands, etc. It's brutal.
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That was more entertaining than expected.
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That was more entertaining than expected.
What was? :huh:
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The outdoor game in Tampa
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Clash moved to Wednesday. lol
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Clash moved to Wednesday. lol
Yall know they playing right now...(ahem Tuesday) in Philthy, right?
Clay Stephenson gets back to back games - pretty rare for a goalie these days
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I realized I forgot something just as I sat down for dinner, and frickin Mick didnt back me up.
:raised-eyebrow:
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I realized I forgot something just as I sat down for dinner, and frickin Mick didnt back me up.
:raised-eyebrow:
You are allowed to eat now and then. Caps had pretty decent PP, but didnt score. Carlson watched at Philthy dangled around in the zone and scored.
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Mick was just about to back you up, when he noticed you finally got to work. Albeit late, you still showed up! :snicker:
Clash is today! 40* and cloudy forecast. Starts at 1:30 on FS2 (i think) then moves to FOX.
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Good news - we did not get Panarin. He went to the Kings who extended him 2 years. Looked like the return was a lot less than they were asking for.
The Caps now have a 30% chance of making the playoffs. We have played 58 games which is more than anybody else. We could actually move to the bottom of the Metropolitan fairly easily as other teams make up the games. Could be a top 10 draft pick in our future!
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Clash is today! 40* and cloudy forecast. Starts at 1:30 on FS2 (i think) then moves to FOX.
What exactly, started at 1:30?
:huh:
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What exactly, started at 1:30?
:huh:
Think they had a practice and single lap qualifying. It wasn't on anything but the Fox app, so I didn't see it. Race was a clown show. Started at 4:30 with the LCQ (75 laps), then around 6:30 the 200 lap race. It was filled with spins, crashes, rain, sleet, etc.. lol Think it finally ended around 9:45pm.
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Good news - we did not get Panarin. He went to the Kings who extended him 2 years. Looked like the return was a lot less than they were asking for.
Its being reported that the Rags wanted Leonard as part of the trade. Caps management said no, thankfully.
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They wanted Leonard. :rofl: That could of been a shot to both feet. Who knows when Panarin will start to fall off, plus he's our only top 6 prospect. Glad they didn't entertain that nonsense. Still need a playmaker and goal scorer though. Doubt they'll get it. C.Patrick doesn't seem to be very proactive. Unfortunately drafting doesn't seem to do much either, unless you get a top 3 pick, which we never do now that they're allergic to rebuilds. I wouldn't mind giving up some picks/prospects (not named Leonard) but can't be doing it for dude's in their 30's.. Need to find another Oshie type deal. lol
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Caps say Dubois is playing tonight. Hmm thought they were waiting till after, but if he's ready, why wait.
Also this is the Caps 59th game - the only team in the NHL that will have played 59 games before the break....which leaves them less room to make up any ground after the break
I really wouldn't mind seeing the Caps trade off some dead weight. I don't want a big blockbuster deal for a big name player (like Panarin) that just wouldn't be enough to make us a contender, but would rather get picks for some of the chaff we need to thresh from this squad.
I am dreading the announcement of the Caps resigning John Carlson to a new multiyear deal.
Carlson, TVR, Frank, Duhaime, Milano, Ovi are all UFA's at seasons end. I would be okay with NONE of them on the roster next year. I don't want Carlson, TVR, Milano, could live with Duhaime and Frank at a bargain figure....Ovi I let play another year just cuz.
McMike and Lappy are RFA's. I really really really wanted both of them to be better this year. Both are trade bait for me, but I'd be okay with McMike back for the right number. If we could get him some help he MIGHT score 25 goals again.
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Caps say Dubois is playing tonight. Hmm thought they were waiting till after, but if he's ready, why wait.
Also this is the Caps 59th game - the only team in the NHL that will have played 59 games before the break....which leaves them less room to make up any ground after the break
I really wouldn't mind seeing the Caps trade off some dead weight. I don't want a big blockbuster deal for a big name player (like Panarin) that just wouldn't be enough to make us a contender, but would rather get picks for some of the chaff we need to thresh from this squad.
I am dreading the announcement of the Caps resigning John Carlson to a new multiyear deal.
Carlson, TVR, Frank, Duhaime, Milano, Ovi are all UFA's at seasons end. I would be okay with NONE of them on the roster next year. I don't want Carlson, TVR, Milano, could live with Duhaime and Frank at a bargain figure....Ovi I let play another year just cuz.
McMike and Lappy are RFA's. I really really really wanted both of them to be better this year. Both are trade bait for me, but I'd be okay with McMike back for the right number. If we could get him some help he MIGHT score 25 goals again.
This is why getting DuBois back is so important, IF he can get back to playing with anything like the effectiveness he played with last season. Carbery said he will initially slot between Protas and Wilson tonight. Not only is that a HUGE, imposing line, it is defensively responsible - one that can match up against any line in the league, even the ones with the most talented payers, and make life miserable for them. And then, if McMichael can return from his injury, the lines suddenly make sense: Ovie/Strome/Sourdif; Protas/DuBois/Wilson; Beauvillier/McMichael/Leonard; and Duhaime/Dowd/Frank or Milano. No more forcing Dowd up the lineup. Lapierre and his negligible effect to the bench. McMichael in a spot where he isn't forced to go up against top players consistently. Leonard gets a consistent feeding center who can maybe help him grow his scoring game. Sourdif maybe with a chance to get even more quality chances, playing opposite the guy who draws all the attention.
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The Caps have officially activated Dubois and Thompson for tonight. Bjorklund has been sent back to Hershey. According to my math, one more move needs to be made. Milano is being listed as injured, but not on IR just yet.
Just checked the Hershey web site, and Trineyev is listed there so hes been sent down as well.
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https://www.olympics.com/en/milano-cortina-2026/schedule/grid (https://www.olympics.com/en/milano-cortina-2026/schedule/grid)
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Last night Milano was listed as out for personal reasons. If not seen any other information on that.
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47849540/hall-fame-quarterback-sonny-jurgensen-dies-91 (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47849540/hall-fame-quarterback-sonny-jurgensen-dies-91)
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Saw that Tommy had a Gordie today vs France. lol Not much of a fight though. Looked like he was not wanting to get suspended.
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Ive been looking around, pretty sure thats the first Olympic Gordie.
Technically, per the rules, Wilson could have gotten further punishment for that. It is optional, anything from a one game suspension to ejected from the games. I suspect Wilson didnt get anything more because he didnt start it, vs a known trouble maker who did. The other guy has quite a reputation in the French league.
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I was wondering...about how often someone get's a Gordie in the Olympics...although I watched most of that game and I didn't see the assist.
The "fight" looked like Tom was trying NOT to throw punches. Fuck it, if you get suspended for getting jumped and dropping your gloves to hold on, you might as well hit that fucker.
Canada looks pretty damn good. USA does too, but Canada is loaded with scorers.
All that extra room with the bigger ice really makes the PP a bigger threat - so much room to move around, hard to pin guys and steal the puck. Also just makes it a bit harder to hit guys with all that room to move around.
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Game I watched, USA vs Lars Ellar. Looked like the ice was half the size of NHL rinks? Couldn't figure out how they'd get any room at all. :huh:
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Canada is the best team that has ever been assembled. I am afraid they will handle the US pretty easily. LT looked great and I think he clearly outplayed Binnington, but I guess they will stick with him.
Celebrini is unbelievable at his age. Bedard got all the hype the year he came out compared to Celebrini - but Celebrini is way better. Gonna be a superstar for a lot of years.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt2ipUpCjPI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt2ipUpCjPI)
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Daytona/Talladega/Atlanta are now jokes of a race. Nobody actually "wins" those anymore. Not like Dale went through. Actually leading the race most of the day, with the best car, only to lose on the last laps due to flat tire or part failure or something. Now you just hang around saving gas for 3/4 of the day and hope to get lucky on the last lap. It's arcade quality at best. Eventually nascar will ruin everything in the sport, catering to kids with 2 minute attention spans.
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Slovakia beat Germany 6-2 today. Slovakia has been a bit of a surprise; upsetting Finland 4-1 in the prelim round. They are now 3-1 and in 5th place
No surprise Canada and USA are 1 and 2, with Finland and Sweden at 3 and 4
(Finland beat Sweden so are ranked higher despite 1 fewer game/win)
I'm curious how they decided on the groupings A, B, C because group B has Sweden, Finland, Slovakia (and Italy) - 3 tough teams and basically what I'd consider contenders (at least as runner up to Canada, USA), whereas Group A has Canada, Switzerland, Czechia, France, and Group C; USA, Germany, Latvia, Denmark.
No real contenders in Groups A or C (besides the top 2). Did they do this intentionally to make sure Canada and USA advanced?
USA plays Sweden today at 3:15 - could be a tough match. I believe it will be broadcast on TNT
All 25 players on team Sweden is NHL player, same for Canada, USA, with Finland having 24/25 nhl players, Slovakia has 7 NHLers
I didn't realize Sweden and Finland squads were that loaded with NHL talent, figuring at least a few guys would come from their elite leagues.
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Dang Hillbilly, you IS bored. :snicker:
USA nearly got whopped by Sweden, trying to turtle the whole 3rd period. One of them Hughes boys bailed em' out in OT.
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I was really hoping Canada would lose today. Tomorrow at 1pm is the womens gold medal game, Canada vs USA.
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One of the keys to Slovakia's success has been the play of Fehervary. He is the team's TOI leader, and has apparently been playing fantastic.
I wonder if success like this can be an adrenaline rush that carries over to the rest of the NHL season?
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USA Win GOLD in Women's Hockey. :super: Canada cries
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Well well well, look who the cat dragged in! Whats up AJ!! Long time no see! You need to join us for a hockey game one night!
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AJ sighting :)
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anyone have a link for the USA vs Slovakia hockey game today?
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You don't get NBC? :huh:
WNBC (NEW YORK) NBC EAST live stream - TheTVApp (https://thetvapp.to/tv/wnbc-new-york-nbc-east-live-stream/)
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You don't get NBC? :huh:
WNBC (NEW YORK) NBC EAST live stream - TheTVApp (https://thetvapp.to/tv/wnbc-new-york-nbc-east-live-stream/)
I'm at work geezer...some of us YOUNG folk still do that.
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Team USA beat Slovakia 6-2 to advance to the gold medal game against Canadia, Sunday morning. It appears the game will be at 8am local time. The bronze medal game, Slovakia vs Finland is Saturday, 2:40pm eastern.
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I'm at work geezer...some of us YOUNG folk still do that.
I can see the TV from my office.. :snicker:
And I hear Canada needed 2 "Canadian" calls, to win their game. ::)
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Hi all, I would like to join up for a Caps game. l don't know how to watch. Are there still good links with HD quality available, or do I need to get a monument sports app & subscription or something. I'll try to join the first one after they return from the Olympics. I haven't watched a hockey game since the BLM delay years ago until these Olympics.I hope everyone is doing well.
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Maybe we could meet here at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow for the gold medal game. Go USA !!
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Hi all, I would like to join up for a Caps game. l don't know how to watch.
Hope to see ya around!!
Streams are harder to come by these days, for sure.. I use this site when I need one: https://onhockey.tv/
It's a pain in the ass, you have to fight through the spam, re-clicking and going back, etc. until you get the game playing. Then, once you get it playing, if you can expand the screen (click the full screen button at bottom right of stream) it'll stay up and w/o spam.
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Fehιrvαry is not coming back with a medal. Finland beat Slovakia 6-1 for the bronze.
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Good Morning. Time for CAN- USA
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this game is moving fast
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5 on 3, not good
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1 to 1 after two
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Awesome game for sure
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The Caps have been having team practices the past few days. Carlson is on the ice this morning in a non contact sweater.
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overtime
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:usagold:
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USA USA USA
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Great game! Although the US was outplayed, this kinda makes up for the 4 Nations fiasco, when the US beat Canada the first game and outplayed them the last game, but Canada came out on top and peacocked all over the place!
I thought LT had the best game for Canada as a goalie in game 2 and was better than Binnington - who they stubbornly were going to start anyway. I have to say Binnington played pretty well, but LT would have stopped that first game.
There was some chatter that McDavid was yelling at Willie at some point and telling him to calm down and not get a penalty. Probably good advice, but McDavid screwed up in OT big time. He's still the best player in the world though.
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:saymyname:
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MhQ5678cJU8
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Brooooo, it's hockey day again!!! :raised-eyebrow:
(https://i.postimg.cc/LsyNSVts/tenor.gif)
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:snicker:
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McMichael has been activated from IR for tonight.
Milano will be put on waivers at 2pm.
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I forgot he was hurt. No clue what it was? Did he take a high hit or something in the game he got injured? Bummer for Milano.. Maybe someone picks him up. He's not terrible to have as a backup.
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I never did see what happened to McMike
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Milano cleared waivers, has been sent to Hershey
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What's wrong with Carlson? His mangina flare up? :raspberry:
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Milano cleared waivers, has been sent to Hershey
I don't know if that's good or bad. Kinda hoped someone would grab him and he could get to play somewhere. I am a little surprised at least someone didn't want him.
Now if you grab a player off waivers, you have to carry him on your active roster, correct? I mean you can just grab him, then send him to your AHL squad a week later?
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If memory serves, it seems like teams can claim a player and send him straight to the minors.
Carlson got hurt in that last game before the Olympic break. Its seems its worse than originally reported on.
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My thoughts are, if he can't get ice on a team like ours, who are scoring deprived, he won't get ice anywhere.. He's had every opportunity to take (at least) 4 guys spots and can't do it.
What channel is the game on tonight? FN HULU doesn't show it on any. :( Though I thought I saw it the other night that said the next 2 were on MMT?? Maybe an NHLnet crossover or something, I dunno..
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Hope to see ya around!!
Streams are harder to come by these days, for sure.. I use this site when I need one: https://onhockey.tv/ (https://onhockey.tv/)
It's a pain in the ass, you have to fight through the spam, re-clicking and going back, etc. until you get the game playing. Then, once you get it playing, if you can expand the screen (click the full screen button at bottom right of stream) it'll stay up and w/o spam.
I found plenty of working streams on https://onhockey.tv/ (https://onhockey.tv/). Thanks Mickstix, but I just got a subscription to Monumental Sports, so I can watch the games with a bunch of old farts like me in Clear HD.. :uh-huh:
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(https://i.postimg.cc/LsyNSVts/tenor.gif)
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I slept in my own bed for the first time in in five days last night, Im still dragging
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I slept in my own bed for the first time in in five days last night, Im still dragging
Who was sleeping in your bed the last five nights? :raspberry:
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Eathan Frank just signed a two year extension at $2M per
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Eathan Frank just signed a two year extension at $2M per
With what team? :wackysmile:
Good for him...but is that good for us? He has shown some sparks of potential, lets hope he gets better.
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He's a speedy, plug. Same as McMike. Hard working, fast, hands of stone.. Im so over it.. lol
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Good for Frank. I would have thought they could have gotten him for a little less, but with the cap going up, I guess that is ok.
On another note, I read on the RNBN site (which usually has some pretty good analysis) that there was some chatter about teams inquiring about Carlson. Get this - the referenced return on a trade was crazy - although the trade was considered unlikely.
Accoding to Pierre Lebrun,
"While an eventual deal is unlikely, the framework of a possible trade could match or even exceed what the Calgary Flames received from the Vegas Golden Knights for defender Rasmus Andersson (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/player/rasmus-andersson/) in January. The Flames, who retained 50 percent of Anderssons cap hit, got defenseman Zach Whitecloud (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/player/zach-whitecloud/), prospect Abram Wiebe, a 2027 first-round pick, and a conditional 2028 second-round pick in return."
If the Caps could get a bag of pucks for Carlson, I would be happy!
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12:30 game tomorrow
:O=
As usual, I wont be available
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Caps have called up Miroshnichenko from Hershey
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Kampf and Liljegren will not play tonight. Coach wants Liljegren to get a couple more practices in, and Kampf is having visa issues.
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Kampf is back in Vancouver for the birth of his second kid. Visa still in limbo..
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We're now on Cole Hutson watch. Can't wait to see what coach gutinstinct does with him. :smirk:
https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/2033273263325868188 (https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/2033273263325868188)
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Im not holding my breath for the first year or three. D men typically take longer to develop. Maybe he will surprise us.
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/players/hutson-comes-in-at-crucial-time-for-capitals-a-look-at-his-role-expectations-what-he-brings (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/players/hutson-comes-in-at-crucial-time-for-capitals-a-look-at-his-role-expectations-what-he-brings)
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True that.. Im not sure what the hopes are anyway, he was drafted 45th, in the 2nd round. Not your usual spot for people to think he could be the savior to anything. Did he just recently become good or something? Don't know much about him.
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I have not seen him play.
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True that.. Im not sure what the hopes are anyway, he was drafted 45th, in the 2nd round. Not your usual spot for people to think he could be the savior to anything. Did he just recently become good or something? Don't know much about him.
The excitement is based entirely on pedigree.
His brother Lane was drafted 62nd by the Canadians and came into the NHL under the exact same circumstances as Cole is coming in now. He went that low because of his size, which was thought to perhaps be unplayable in the NHL, despite his skill. (Cole is 2 inches taller and 10 pounds heavier than Lane at the same point.) This is Lane's 2nd full season, and he is now a point-per-game defenseman, playing upwards of 24 minutes per game and having a +/- rating of 26. I realize that +/- has to be taken with a grain of salt, but it would seem to indicate that he isn't a tremendous defensive liability.
Believe it or not, Cole is considered by many hockey experts to have more skills than his older brother at the same stage of development. We'll see. The question is, does he have "it?" His older brother seems to - and he is the leading defensive stalwart on a Montreal team that is in playoff position -- while we are not.
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Hutson goes straight to the NHL? Well lets hope he's up to the task. I agree with Alta - Dmen usually take a bit longer, and Hutson's size could be a problem. Not exactly filling our roster with big strong imposing d-men, but then the NHL is moving away from that anyway.
Lets hope Cole does as well has as his brother; won the Calder as NHL top rookie. THat's pretty fantastic for a high draft pick.
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Well, they certainly talk highly of him on the interwebs. The way he QB's the PP for BU.. That's really about all I've heard of him. Hopefully he shines and shines early, cause 1 bad game out of the box and the DC sports establishment will have him mopping floors and driving the zamboni.
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14 games left, trailing Boston and Isles by 7 points (realistically 8 pts). Its over.
Bring up some AHL guys and see what they can do, Let them play some real minutes on a real line (not throw a scorer on the 4th line just to get him in a game). Maybe give you some insight for who's ready and help you know what do do over the summer.
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If they were gonna do that I doubt they would have wasted picks on the new D and C.. Unless they plan to move Lappi and a Dman in the offseason.. Either way, there should be room for Hutson to get some ice anyway. I'd like to see Crystal and LilPro, but don't know who they'd replace. Well, I do, but CoachGut probably disagrees. :snicker: Dude has been on my nerves for a couple months now.. :raspberry:
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TvR is a UFA at the end of the season. I would not be surprised if management lets him walk.
You need to chill your nerves..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWjtWONuGc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWjtWONuGc)
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Im chill. Just don't have a lot of patience for stupidity. And he's been doing stupid shit lately. :raised-eyebrow: :rofl:
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It will be interesting to see if they play Hutson more than the 8 or 10 games needed to burn of year of his entry contract - which I believe they did for Leonard. For an undersized defenseman that was drafted so late, I think that would be a mistake - but they probably had to guaranty him that to get him to sign. At this point though, they have to realize they are not making the playoffs so sacrificing a contract year is a significant giveaway.
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Leonard played 9 games last season. I think 10 regular season is the cutoff to maintain rookie status. Leonard also signed a three year deal and it appears those 9 games did burn a year of it.
The Caps roster lists Hutson at 511 and 175. Hes about to turn 20 so I doubt hes going to get any taller. But he should put on some pounds in the next couple years.
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Hutson is supposed to play tonight.
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I don't think Carbs is stupid or a bad coach. He might be a little conservative, but he also is hamstrung with limited talent resources.
He is the only coach in history to win the major coaching award at all three levels. (NHL-Jack Adams, AHL-Loius Pieri, ECHL-John Brophy) Those didn't come by accident or him getting lucky with talented teams. (Okay last year everyone overperformed so he there some luck to it)
He is no dummy, and maybe because of his time in ECHL, AHL, he maybe limits the young guys more, it's hard to say.
I think one of the reasons Caps moved to him instead of an established guy is that they knew they were headed for rebuild (of sorts) and Carbs is a younger guy who has helped develop guys at all levels. They got lucky last year and had a better season than expected so it altered the narrative a bit last year.
Ultimately everything is the coaches responsibility but its tough when you have 2-3 guys playing well, and a bunch of guys underperforming, and a bunch of guys that just are not that great.
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Caps have 14 games remaining. They are not making the playoffs. It would be dumb to burn a year for Hutson, but what does that really mean? If the guy is gonna make the squad next year, and continue to get better, does it really have an impact? I mean if he IS going to be a stud, what does it matter when he starts? Are we talking only in regards to contracts? Like when his next contract will start.
For example....what does it matter that Leno burned a year of ELC if he is gonna be permanent NHLer? Because you have to sign his next contract sooner?
I am not arguing, I am asking what's the difference?
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TVR....absolutely let him walk. He's 1/10 of a step from getting beat 95% of the time now
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Kampf finally has a visa, but is still in Vancouver waiting for his wife to give birth
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What are his faceoff #'s?? Pay the man double if good. :wackysmile: They never heard of induced labor that far north? :smirk:
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Based on how it was reported, she should have popped by now.
Click on game logs, it gives individual game stats. His FO% seems pretty high, but with a bad game here and there..
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/kampfda01.html (https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/kampfda01.html)
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So I have to say that I was very impressed with Hutson. He is one of these new-era defensemen that are shrimps but can skate and handle the puck. I was really, really pleased with his offensive aggressiveness and ability. I do worry about him in the defensive zone. He is not capable of clearing the crease or even holding his own in that zone, but maybe the Hughes boys have proved that that is not critical anymore.
Next year the Caps will have Hutson, Chicky and Sandin - all of which can be puck moving and more offensive. Kinda like that!
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So I have to say that I was very impressed with Hutson. He is one of these new-era defensemen that are shrimps but can skate and handle the puck. I was really, really pleased with his offensive aggressiveness and ability. I do worry about him in the defensive zone. He is not capable of clearing the crease or even holding his own in that zone, but maybe the Hughes boys have proved that that is not critical anymore.
Next year the Caps will have Hutson, Chicky and Sandin - all of which can be puck moving and more offensive. Kinda like that!
But Sandin hasn't yet shown that he can really drive offense. If CH develops the way the team obviously thinks he can, I wouldn't be surprised if Sandin is out the door at some point.
I am baffled as to why the Caps keep bringing Miroshnichenko and then sit him on the bench. He's back up again - give the guy a chance to play! If he isn't going to play, they might as well send him back down to Hershey and give him ice time.
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The Caps suddenly have a plethora of D men. Id say at least two gotta go. TvR becoming a UFA is one. Liljegren, the guy management traded Carlson for, is also going to be a UFA. Not that Im upset Carlson got traded. Its a far better option than resigning him for feels. Liljegren didnt look bad in what little weve seen him play. But I need to see more of him before making a decision. I dont see trading Carlson for a 12 game rental. But its hard to tell with this team.
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Did we get him in the trade or did we spend a draft pick for him? If he was just part of the deal, then I guess it's fine. He didn't stand out in the games played and that's probably a good thing. But can't believe they saw everything they needed in 2 or whatever games though. They've seen TVR all season. Who knows. Same deal with the center.
Both guys appear to be defensive minded since they only have like 3 goals and 14 assists "combined" from about 80 games this season. :sick:
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:huh:
yea, draft pick for Carlson,
maybe I should refresh myself with the trade deadline thread
:lmao:
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Yeah i thought the outgoing pick for the Dman was a bit odd, but considering they sent their ice time leader dman packing (and amen to that), i think it was just a fill in...or maybe worth it to see what the guy had as a possible re-sign. I would expect to see him play the rest of the season though. And maybe they didn't know if Hutson was going to sign pro...OR if he'd be ready if he did.
I certainly expect to see TVR gone over the summer.
They have 9 D right now, but BigMac is just a fill in, Chisholm seems to only make the roster when they are short, and TVR and Liljegren are FA's so it really not that many. I have a suspicion that Carbs likes Liljegren (from history with him) and the team wanted a real look at him to see if he was worth signing. They know they have some open spots next season so...
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They traded a 4th round pick for Liljegran. Not much, but not nothing either. I think Hutson will play the rest of the season as he is something to get the fanbase excited about and will help on season ticker renewals. Not sure why they don't like Chisholm more. I think he has played well, but he isn't seeming to stick. TVR is definitely gone and Big Mac is as well - maybe retires. So I guess they need either Chisholm or Liljegran for depth unless somebody else is ready to step up.
Long- term, I worried about the lack of size and toughness of our D. TVR had his issues, but at least he was decent sized.
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33 year old McIlrath and 26 year old Chisholm still have one more season under contract. Management is going to have put someone on waivers next September or trade someone over the summer.
https://capwages.com/teams/washington_capitals (https://capwages.com/teams/washington_capitals)
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As much as we are all reconciled to the fact that the Caps aren't going to make the playoffs, today was probably the death knell. All 8 teams immediately ahead of the Caps in the playoff standings, who the Caps have a conceivable chance of catching, played today. Five of them have already won, and a 6th will win, because the remaining pertinent game in progress is Detroit/Boston, two of the 8 teams.
To make the playoffs, the Caps have to pass 4 of them, and all of them have at least a game in hand. There's too much distance and too little time.
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Here's a glowing review of Cole Hutson debut.
https://youtu.be/oBDsyGPyF1Q?si=_Bo2l0UjMT0Lczwm
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Alexander's 1000th goal!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YhydKOwgYpY&pp=iggCQAE%3D
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So after a few games, I like what I see from Hutson. He has the potential to be as good or better than his brother and he is the new type of offensive defensemen that seem to be very effective. He seems to be totally offensive and kinda floats around the D zone. He is definitely not the type that will sit in the crease and try and clear a guy out.
He also will find it tougher going as teams figure him out and his shuck and jive moves may backfire more, but he is gonna be entertaining!
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Caps in Salt Lake City at 9pm, I was looking for an update on Kampf and got distracted. I will put the GDT up after dinner.
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The Caps arent technically out of the playoffs yet. But, Columbus, Boston, Pittsburgh and the Islanders would need to go on a multi game losing streak and the Caps would need to go on a multi game winning streak. This scenario seems highly unlikely.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/LsyNSVts/tenor.gif)
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its a 10:30 game..
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Just makin sure you aint sleepin' on the job! :snicker:
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In the post practice presser today coach said Protas is out at least one game, maybe more. Upper body. Id be surprised if its not more. No update on Frank. Maybe we finally get to see Kampf play.
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Vegas fired Bruce Cassidy after losing to the Caps Saturday night, hired Torts as a replacement.
:huh:
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You lose to us, you fire the HC no questions asked!! :snicker:
In other news:
https://twitter.com/rmnb/status/2038683595456340183
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In the post practice presser today coach said Protas is out at least one game, maybe more. Upper body. Id be surprised if its not more. No update on Frank. Maybe we finally get to see Kampf play.
that is a huge loss, both literally and figuratively.
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Good on John Q. I hope he has success.
I was gonna post a few games back....Have we missed John Carlson since his departure? At all? I mean not to be mean, but seriously, has our game suffered at all? (Hutson has made a positive difference stepping in and certainly taken what were some of John's minutes), so it's hard to measure but i do not see us being worse off.
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Today coach said Frank is ready but will sit one more game, Kampf in instead.
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Every team ahead of Caps in the race for last in Metro or WC spot lost yesterday...or their last game, except Boston 94 has won 4 in a row
Isles 89, Columbus 88, Ottawa 86, Detroit 86, Flyers 86 all lost, Caps 85 still behind them all.
Caps best shot might be 3rd in metro - have to jump Flyers, Columbus, Isles
77 points earns you WC spot in the west right now. 88 pts needed in the east.
88 points would put you in 1st place in the Pacific
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Caps at Devils Thursday night, 7:30. The team is already there, Protas stayed in D.C.
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Every team ahead of Caps in the race for last in Metro or WC spot lost yesterday...or their last game, except Boston 94 has won 4 in a row
Isles 89, Columbus 88, Ottawa 86, Detroit 86, Flyers 86 all lost, Caps 85 still behind them all.
Caps best shot might be 3rd in metro - have to jump Flyers, Columbus, Isles
77 points earns you WC spot in the west right now. 88 pts needed in the east.
88 points would put you in 1st place in the Pacific
At the very least, we need Ottawa/Detroit/Philly to all continue losing. It wouldn't take much for the Caps to suddenly jump 3 teams in the standings. Then only the playoff teams would be ahead of them. It makes the task look suddenly less daunting. There is a HUGE difference between being one point behind that logjam, and being one point clear of it.
I'm afraid, though, that losing Protas is a real disaster at this point. Five of the last 7 games are on the road, you need defensive discipline in road games, and Protas is very defensively disciplined. That is why he and Wilson are almost invariably on the ice in the last minute of close games. We have GOT to get Protas back on the ice, and back out there for the 18-20 minutes he has been playing.
As for Hutson, he has certainly injected some offensive excitement in the back end, but he has and will make mistakes - he already is a -3 at 5 on 5. It's a balancing act whether they need his offensive game more than his defense is going to cost us right now. But the team certainly seems to be committed to riding out the rest of the regular season with him. Keep in mind, his older brother was a minus player until this, his second full season in the league. It's likely, even if Cole eventually flourishes, that we will have to go through the same growing pains with him.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=mU4vMrk-oSQ&pp=iggCQAE%3D (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mU4vMrk-oSQ&pp=iggCQAE%3D)
Video comparing Cole to his brother Lane Hutson.
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A week ago I said the Caps were dead for the playoffs.
In that time, the Caps have won 3 straight, and the 5 teams directly ahead of them (who the Caps are competing with for the last two playoff spots) have collectively lost their latest 12 games. Those 6 teams now have between 85 and 89 standings points. The Caps' playoff chances have gone from nonexistent to conceivable - it's highly unlikely, but there is a path.
The immediate problems for the Caps are 4: (1) The loss of Protas, which is crushing right now; (2) The Caps have only one game left against the 5 teams ahead of them, a game against Columbus which it behooves them to win, in regulation if possible; (3) The 5 teams ahead of them 5 games left with each other, which one team has to win and the other can collect a point. It's likely that those 5 games will produce 12 or 13 points for those 5 teams; and (4) the Caps have the worst home/road split, with 5 on the road and 2 at home -- and they haven't done as well on the road as at home this season (often they DO do as well on the road as at home).
It's conceivable, but all things considered, it's still an enormous longshot. The thing is, if the Caps don't make the playoffs they are almost locked into a draft position between 13 and 16 going into the lottery. All 8 non-playoff teams in the West, and the bottom 4 in the East, are further behind the Caps than they are behind the 5 teams in front of them.
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Caps will shit the bed tonight vs NJ and end the playoff hopes for good.
Caps have won 3 in a row. They likely need to win 6 of remaining 7 games, plus get some help....which would be winning 9 out of 10. I don't see that happening, but we are Cap fans so we can always dream.
Problem is, some teams ahead of them are playing each other so someone is always getting points.
Beating the Hens twice at the end to get in would be a nice story book ending. I figure it will be over before we get there, but let's see.
Go Caps
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Gluttons for punishment, the lot of ya.. :snicker:
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It is a sin to have no hope.
:raspberry:
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Hope? Too old for that shit. :rofl:
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We have 7 games to figure out if who we want to invite back next year
Kampf and Duhaime are UFAs.
Dewey you know what you have in him - bargain 4th line guy...who has been utilized more lately on PK. I am fine with having him back.
Kampf - FFS let the guy play and lets see what we've got. I've seen he does have pretty good wheels, that's always a good thing. Currently making 1.1m is pretty bargain cost
Lappy and McMike are RFAs. I expect caps will come to terms with both, assuming they can work maybe short term bridge deals. McMike could spark interest elsewhere, not too sure about Lappy tho.
TVR and Liljegren are UFAs.
I absolutely say let TVR walk. I'd rather see Hutson on the ice making mistakes every game, than see TVR getting beat every game. TVR is in decline
Liljegren - WTF knows? FFS play the guy and see what he can do with real game time.
Everyone else is under contract, so these guys above are the only ones to make decisions on (other than the hope we bring in some outside talent in offseason)
I'd really like to see them bring up Lil Pro and see if he can have an impact in the NHL. Forget his age (19) and learning in the AHL, let's see what he can do. He has 27g and 29A in 64 games.
Bring up Cristall and give him a shot too. He would have made the team beginning of season if it weren't for his age and size.
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https://twitter.com/SaintNick2018/status/2040588919478120702
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Caps at Rangers at 7pm. Rangers are eliminated, not sure how much enthusiasm they have.
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Wow Islanders fire Patrick Roy, hire Pete Deboer as new head coach. 4 games left in the season
That's a bit unorthodox and this point in season, but Deboer is a primo coach. Sure hope it does not spark them.
I think 3rd place in metro might be Caps best hope.
We desperately need Boston to beat Philthy today, and a we win tonight and we are 3rd in Metro with same 4 games remaining as the Isles. (Philthy will still have a game in hand on us)
Philthy with a loss and Caps win we, leap frog all three Columbus, Philthy and the Isles
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Detroit scores three in the 3rd to tie up Minnesota. Detroit loses in regulation.
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halfway thru 2nd, philthy is not cooperating
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Boston sucks
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Somehow, I think we win tonight and end up getting in.
A few player comments:
Lappy - showing real nice improvement lately, maybe he is a keeper after all.
Beauvy - I think he has played really, really well over the last month - both on offense and the PK. Especially since Dowd left, he has really worked hard. Doesn't get enough credit.
TVR - I think there is no chance they resign him, but I have to say he has played pretty well and has been much more aggressive - probably because he knows he is auditioning for a new contract.
Leno - getting more and more confident and seems to be protecting himself a bit more - just wish he had more size.
Hutson - has now shown plenty of rookie mistakes which is to be expected. He likes to roam around a lot which is great if that is the role they are creating for him, but not great if they are expecting him to play more near our own net - still excited about him.
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Ottawa up 5-2 in the third, so no help there either.
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about the worst possibility...Flyers and Boston tie...both get a point then Filthy wins in OT (on a 5 on 3)
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Well here's one good thing to come out of the season ending game last night....
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-recall-ilya-protas (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-recall-ilya-protas)
Now put him on the 4th line and give him 6 minutes of ice :raspberry:
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Well here's one good thing to come out of the season ending game last night....
https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-recall-ilya-protas (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-recall-ilya-protas)
Now put him on the 4th line and give him 6 minutes of ice :raspberry:
I have to believe that the first time he hits the NHL ice, it will be on a line with his brother. Maybe even starting the game.
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He will probably still only get 6 minutes of TOI
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Now put him on the 4th line and give him 6 minutes of ice :raspberry:
I had to steal that one. :snicker:
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Its just odd to me that he has to learn the ropes and earn his way into a chance in Hershey (which he has done IMO), yet guys like Leno and Hutson they pull straight from 2 years of college and play them right away. I realize they are high draft pics and maybe their pedigree is better, and they likely negotiated that, but just based on our lack of scoring success all year and no real stand outs in the lower lines, why not bring Lil Pro up and give him a shot before now. Its not like we are so loaded with scoring talent we just can't make room.
Who loses a sweater to make room for Pro? Lappy...Frank?
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Its just odd to me that he has to learn the ropes and earn his way into a chance in Hershey (which he has done IMO), yet guys like Leno and Hutson they pull straight from 2 years of college and play them right away. I realize they are high draft pics and maybe their pedigree is better, and they likely negotiated that, but just based on our lack of scoring success all year and no real stand outs in the lower lines, why not bring Lil Pro up and give him a shot before now. Its not like we are so loaded with scoring talent we just can't make room.
Who loses a sweater to make room for Pro? Lappy...Frank?
Ilya was playing junior hockey last year, and is only 19 years old. I think that college hockey is considered some steps above junior, which is why Leonard and Hutson were pulled directly into the NHL. I don't think Hershey is making the AHL playoffs this year, are they? The Caps may have been wanting him to experience a playoff-type atmosphere in Hershey, but if that is now by the boards, then maybe that's why they feel that now is the time to bring him up. I mean, we HAVE to figure that he has the inside track to a roster spot next season, right?
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Lappi, Deuhaime, Beauvi, Frank, Sourdif, McMike. We've seen plenty from all those guys.. Even if they're not going anywhere, they can catch a few games from the box seats.
Need Miro, Kampf and now LilPro to play the rest of the games and get a decent look. But we won't cause, "Caps".. :(
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"Alex Ovechkin will wait until the offseason to decide whether this will be his final season in the NHL, the Washington "Capitals captain said in an interview posted by the team on social media.
The 40-year-old left wing is nearing the end of his 21st NHL season and is in the final season of a five-year, $47.5 million contract ($9.5 million average annual value) he signed with Washington in 2021. Thats led to speculation throughout this season about whether this will be the NHLs all-time leader in goals last in the League."
https://www.nhl.com/news/alex-ovechkin-says-decision-on-nhl-future-will-come-in-offseason (https://www.nhl.com/news/alex-ovechkin-says-decision-on-nhl-future-will-come-in-offseason)
I'm not going to lie, seeing Capitals hockey without Ovechkin is going to be weird? As long as I've been watching the sport he was always there? 😢
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Ive been watching since Lacher was playing. Its always odd when a long term player leaves, especially one thats been here 21 years.
Lindgren out, upper body, day to day. Gibson called up.
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So Leno and Hutson definitely negotiated to be guaranteed to play straight to the NHL and get at least 10 games so they burn a season off their entry contract before they can become an RFA. That is a big benefit for the player and the team loses a year of control. I get why the Caps did it for Leonard as they thought they had a shot last year, but I think they should have not done it with Hutson. Should have called his bluff and there is no way he was going back to college for another year.
Lil Pro didn't have the leverage of threatening to go back to college so they waited to bring him up until the very end so they don't burn a year off him.
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So Leno and Hutson definitely negotiated to be guaranteed to play straight to the NHL and get at least 10 games so they burn a season off their entry contract before they can become an RFA. That is a big benefit for the player and the team loses a year of control. I get why the Caps did it for Leonard as they thought they had a shot last year, but I think they should have not done it with Hutson. Should have called his bluff and there is no way he was going back to college for another year.
Lil Pro didn't have the leverage of threatening to go back to college so they waited to bring him up until the very end so they don't burn a year off him.
...... except that Leonard played in only 9 games last season. As I recall, he signed immediately after his season concluded and was put in the lineup right away, so I think he played the maximum number of games he could have. Didn't his team lose in the finals of the Frozen Four? Anyway, I know his team went further than Hutson's did - Hutson's[size=78%] team this year was pretty meh.[/size]
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[/size]IF Ilya is really going to play on a line between his brother and Wilson, that doesn't sound like a 6-minute assignment. Now I could see the team putting him on that line for a "ceremonial" first shift so he could debut with his brother. But I don't think they would have had him work with those two at yesterday's practice if the intent wasn't to actually have them play together. If that line does stay together, it is GARGANTUAN.[size=78%]
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Watched Carberry interview today. Sounds like Lil Pro will be with that line all night. Make an easy transition for him with two smart veteran guys.
Coach Berube joked about having to come up with someone to play against our 700lb line. ;D
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...... except that Leonard played in only 9 games last season. As I recall, he signed immediately after his season concluded and was put in the lineup right away, so I think he played the maximum number of games he could have. Didn't his team lose in the finals of the Frozen Four? Anyway, I know his team went further than Hutson's did - Hutson's[size=78%] team this year was pretty meh.[/size]
That's good new BlackIce. I was thinking he got 10 games in.
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Oh, but wait a minute. The 9 games he got in were in the regular season. He played in the playoffs as well. If those games count, then he got in more than 10.
I don't know the rules here.
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playoffs dont count
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Watched Carberry interview today. Sounds like Lil Pro will be with that line all night. Make an easy transition for him with two smart veteran guys.
Coach Berube joked about having to come up with someone to play against our 700lb line. ;D
That's literally true, if you believe the press guide. Big Pro is listed at 250, L'il Pro and Wilson 225 apiece. It's likely that L'il Pro will gain weight when he becomes an adult.
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This argument couldve been made before Hamlin started driving Cup..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99kAEKPXUa8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99kAEKPXUa8)
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OOPS -- I credited Mick with the prediction that L'il Pro would get 6 minutes of ice time last night. Rich actually started it.
Sorry -- I want to give proper credit. Thank goodness it didn't happen that way.
So DuBois is now an $8.5 million 3rd line center?
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Remember we knew PLD was overpaid when we made the trade - that was part of the deal so we are stuck with it. I actually think the 8.5 is not too bad with the new salary caps.
Thought Lil Pro was ok last night - definitely nervous and tentative but at times he skated pretty well.
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Remember we knew PLD was overpaid when we made the trade - that was part of the deal so we are stuck with it. I actually think the 8.5 is not too bad with the new salary caps.
Thought Lil Pro was ok last night - definitely nervous and tentative but at times he skated pretty well.
I agree 100%. The salary is too high, but we did not make that contract. True we knew what it was, but if you recall, we DESPERATELY needed another center AND we unloaded Kemper's ridiculous contract in this trade. Like you said, today its not so bad as it was. If we can get PLD back to where he was last year, then I am fine with it. It really was a roll of the dice with him, but it looked promising. I am okay with the deal that was done. Fingers crossed it works in our favor in the long run.
I would rather pay PLD 8.5 to play 2nd line center than to pay Kemper 5.3m to be a backup for 5 years.
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Remember we knew PLD was overpaid when we made the trade - that was part of the deal so we are stuck with it. I actually think the 8.5 is not too bad with the new salary caps.
Thought Lil Pro was ok last night - definitely nervous and tentative but at times he skated pretty well.
He may be a strapping kid, but he IS a 19 year old kid. And he was a third-round selection; not like the guys picked in the first 5 who come up to play as teenagers. I think we're going to be seeing the twin towers around for awhile.
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I don't know what motivates Dubois, but I wish they could figure it out. You can see he's skilled, but he looks lazy on the ice. Gets pushed around by much smaller players, can't win faceoffs, etc.. He really is a good 3rd line center. Just gets paid more than double what he should.. Then after 2 weeks of meh, he'll be fired up for a game or two and you can see what he's got.
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Caps are 3 points out of 3rd in Metro with 3 games remaining.
We need to win all three and have Isles and Flyers and Columbus all lose 2 of 3 and we are in. (We win tie braker vs all 3 teams)
To win last WC spot we need all of the above, plus Detroit to lose 2/3, and Ottawa to shit the bed entirely and lose all 3.
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It wouldve been nice if played like this here, it was still time to move on though..
https://www.nhl.com/news/san-jose-sharks-anaheim-ducks-game-recap-april-9-2026 (https://www.nhl.com/news/san-jose-sharks-anaheim-ducks-game-recap-april-9-2026)
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Haha, he's always had a decent shot, just been missing the net here. Maybe west coast the nets are in a spot he can find? :snicker:
Hey good for him. And our pick was conditional, so maybe good for us? Not sure what the conditions were
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Haha, he's always had a decent shot, just been missing the net here. Maybe west coast the nets are in a spot he can find? :snicker:
Hey good for him. And our pick was conditional, so maybe good for us? Not sure what the conditions were
As I understand it, condition are: if Anaheim makes the playoffs, the first round pick is this year. If they don't, the first round pick moves to next year.
Tonight could be the night it ends. All games in hand teams had against the Caps are gone. The teams ahead of the Caps have no games left against each other, so they have no guaranteed points. The Caps have to hope to win out and 4 teams ahead of them wipe out. The chances of that happening can be demonstrated with a snowball and blowtorch.
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Best racing in Nascar on the CW right now.. Only real nascar "stockcars" left. O'reilly/Xfinity/Busch series from Bristol TN.
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What is the CW?
Leonard gets a $250,000 performance bonus for getting 20 goals this season.
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What is the CW?
Leonard gets a $250,000 performance bonus for getting 20 goals this season.
No wonder he was smiling so big on the Bench. Lilpro smile was better. Nice to see a guy that happy.
Good on them both.
missing Dubuios tomorrow will hurt if Hens put a team out there.
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No wonder he was smiling so big on the Bench. Lilpro smile was better. Nice to see a guy that happy.
Good on them both.
missing Dubuios tomorrow will hurt if Hens put a team out there.
I found it strange that, if the Pens wanted to rest some of their stars for a game, they'd do it for the home game rather than the road game. Maybe they wanted to make as sure as they could to win at least one game by having their stars fresh for the 2nd game of the back-t0-back?
If DuBois and Sandin are out, the Caps DO have hand-picked replacements. Sourdif moves up to 3C and Kampf slots in to 4C, which is what we all presume that he was acquired for when Dowd was traded. And Liljigren is a RD, who could slot alongside Fehervary. We gave up assets for these guys, so it's time to use them if needed.
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Did they ever give an update on Sandin?
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I havent seen one. Technically, that was an illegal check, Caps shouldve gotten a 2:00 PP out of it.
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My Saturday thing has also been every other Sunday for the last year, but less involved. I should be back by the middle of the 1st
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Well Islanders are out. Blue Jackets lost so Caps up by 1 on them, just need to win their last game vs Columbus.
AND, we need the FLyers to lose their last 2...1 in regulation and the other lose even in OT (Caps have tie-braker vs them)
Flyers have Canes and Montreal left. But will the Canes dress a full squad, they have 1st place locked I think
Didn't the Caps sneak into the playoffs last year at the Flyers expense?
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If Pilly wins tonight the Caps are done
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If Pilly wins tonight the Caps are done
Right - Philly needs two standings points out of their last two games to assure the playoffs. But conversely, if Philly loses both their remaining games in regulation, the Caps can still make the playoffs even if they lose to Columbus tomorrow - as long as they take the game to overtime. In that case all 3 teams end up with 94 standings points, and as I understand it, the Caps own the tiebreaker against both teams. In that case, you might see the unusual circumstance where, if Philly loses tonight and is behind big to Montreal tomorrow while the Caps and Jackets are tied toward the end of regulation, Columbus would pull their goalie in a tie game.
If by some miracle the Caps DO make the playoffs, their opponent is set -- the Penguins!!! Interestingly, through 81 games the Pens' record is 41-40, the Caps' record is 42-39. But the Pens have lost 16 games - 1/5 of their season, and 40% of their losses - in overtime or shootout. Those 16 loser points have them comfortably in the playoffs.
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What happens if filthy gets a loser point?
We HAVE to win?
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What happens if filthy gets a loser point?
We HAVE to win?
We don't HAVE to do anything. Philly wins in the shootout. Playoffs by the boards.
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Caps are done, Columbus is done. Meaningless game tomorrow.
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Oh FFS the Canes were up 2-0. What is this BS?
Well saves me the frustration and the cost of a new flatscreen when the Caps Shit the bed vs columbus
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Wondering about draft position now. How many teams did we pass during the push? 2 or 3?
Still need to get Strome his 20th.
Next year should be fun!
https://twitter.com/OVECHKlN/status/2043873344785629403
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So I think the Ovi situation had a lot to do with who they played last night. Not playing Kampf or Liljegren made no sense except I think they wanted to reward the guys that had played with Ovi with being on the ice for possibly his last game. And they also reward Big Mac for his years of service as I have to think he may be retiring. I can't argue with that.
Looks like the Caps should get the 16th pick plus Anaheims pick which should be in the 17 to 20 range. It is supposed to be a really deep draft so that is good.
I'm not sure what to think about Ovi. Watching all the tributes got me pretty nostalgic and kinda hoping he comes back to get a few more goals and make the record that much harder to break. I think the best thing for the Caps though would be if he retired and we complete the transition. With Lil Pro, Hutson, Sourdif and Leno, they have a pretty good young nucleus and they have a couple more on the way up that could be very pleasant surprises.
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Big Mac has 1 more year on contract at $800k. He will be utility/practice/fill-in again next year. I expect he won't get too many games. I honestly have no issue with playing him. No speedster or real puck mover, but we have plenty of those, so a big hitting body moving crease clearing guy is okay with me now and then
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https://twitter.com/Tarik_ElBashir/status/2044795193044390385
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https://twitter.com/Tarik_ElBashir/status/2044795193044390385 (https://twitter.com/Tarik_ElBashir/status/2044795193044390385)
Ovie's statement is interesting.
First, it seems like a dig against the Blue Jackets - He sort of suggested that finishing off against them is really a not very glamorous way to end a career. But he may have meant that a meaningless game with no playoffs is the desultory end, regardless of who the final game might be against.
The bigger implication, though, is that he would like to come back -- but the organization may not see it that way, either in terms of how much money they might offer him to play another season, or whether they would offer him a suitably high spot on the forward pecking order, or even a spot on the roster at all. You'd THINK they would, given what he has meant to the franchise and the deference they have paid to him throughout his career. But let's face it; he is a 100 foot player now, is a huge liability if/when he is forced to play in the defensive zone, and the staff went to extraordinary lengths to minimize his time in the defensive zone, exemplified by the fact that he never was involved in a defensive zone face-off until almost the end of the season. Managing that had to involve juggling other players and other lines around to get Ovie on the ice in advantageous situations and keep him off the ice in disadvantageous situations. It figures that the team would have to follow such a strategy as much or more next season as they have this past season, were he to return. And the organization may feel that it stunts or disadvantages the team more than Ovie's presence would help.
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100' player for sure! Still isn't "the" problem. Only 5 PP goals and still lead the team in scoring and points is the problem. They've ignored the huge losses of Nicky, Kuzy and Oshie. Strome and Dubois combined, don't make up for any one of those guys, imo. If it wasn't for LT, this team would be drafting top 1-5, no doubt in my mind.
Im hoping he takes the offseason/conditioning more serious than usual. That may help his mobility some.
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BlackIce,
I agree with your statement. It would take some working to make Ovi efficient to play and certainly more of the same was done last year.
Regardless, I think they do it for OVI. Also, he was the LEADING SCORER on the team. Yes he was put in the position to score, with much movement around him to make it happen, but he was still the leading scorer. Any player would have a better level of scoring success if that was ALL they had to do and given the circumstances to do it, but he did in fact score more than anyone else on the team.
He certainly is a defensive liability. He certainly won't be faster next year. I think he will still score enough goals to make him worth while.
Let's hope its one year and he is reasonable about it and signs for 8mil leaving some room for other assets. If he moves on, I am fine with that too. I expect they need to figure that out pretty quickly so they know what direction to go. Hope he doesn't drag it out. I would miss him greatly, but I would like to see the team take a step forward toward the future.
Curious to see what they do with Lappy. Sounds like McMike is already penciled in based on his comments "I'm sure that will get worked out very soon"...or something to that effect.
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For those who say "but Ovie was still the leading goal scorer." That is true, but his total included 7 empty net goals, of which I believe the majority were when the Caps were MORE than one goal ahead - because Carbery didn't want to risk him out there in a 6 on 5 with only a one goal lead. In terms of consequential goals, his production is less difficult to replace than one might think. In fact, one might argue that he was more valuable as a decoy and assist man than as a scorer in the season just past.
And then there is the ripple effect on the rest of the forwards - Leonard specifically. Mick especially lamented that Leonard was stuck in the bottom 6 playing with lower-skill players, and he could have scored quite a bit more if he was moved up (replacing part of Ovie's production). I think Mick's complaint is defensible. I also THINK the problem here was that the team didn't see Leonard as really defensively responsible yet, and with Ovie on the ice, the other wing had to be defensively responsible. So if Ovie, AProtas, and Wilson are 3 of the top 4 wings and some defensively more responsible wing has to be with Ovie, that shoves Leonard to 3RW, which is exactly what happened this past season.
Now, in support of Ovie returning, there COULD now be an in-house solution to this, IF we believe that the immediate elevation of IProtas to 2C when they brought him up (he played with AProtas and Wilson) is real. That means that Strome, IProtas, and DuBois are 3 centers on the roster next season. Ovie could be paired with DuBois and a Sourdif or Bouvier on what could in reality be a 3rd line, with declining minutes for Ovie but still with a "high-grade" center. McMichael/Leonard/AProtas/Wilson are the wings on the top 2 lines, and away we go. OR with all the cap space the organization has next year, they could sign a top-6 wing if a right fit exists, move McMichael to line 3 with Ovechkin, and let Sourdif be the 4C. There are lots of options here. And none of this assumes any role for Cristall. HE is going to be an interesting situation in training camp this fall.
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Watching the Ottowa/canes game....what if we could snag Brady Tkcuk? That dude plays hard
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Regarding Ovi, I think he is coming back and the Caps will have to give him whatever money he asks for. There is no way Ted Leonsis is going to let Ovi come back and not play for the Caps. Let's just hope that Ovi will only want one year and be reasonable on salary. He could take it as a pride thing and want to be paid top money as the all-time goal scorer and he could say he was underpaid for a lot of years (which is true) and want to catch up - so let's hope he decides to leave some on the table.
I still have no clue how he scored 31 this year. There were the 7 ENGs and also I think there were 4 or 5 goals where shots just deflected off him and a few other tip-ins. Also, his linemates went way out of there way to try and get him scoring chances. There were so many times that he had great chances and just plain whiffed - that he probably could have had well over 40 if his skills hadn't really fallen off. I still love the guy and am torn about him coming back, but it's his call and Ted will make sure his is a lifetime Cap.
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23.6 x 3 = 1000 :huh: :snicker: I wouldn't be (overly) shocked, if he wants to go for it..
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^^ Redneck math :huh:
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Never thought I'd be rooting for Philthy, but I am. Always have to pull for any team vs the Hens.
Can't figure out who to vote for Tampa or Montreal. Don't really give a hoot about either. Tampa has won so much, I'd lean towards Montreal except they ended us in the first round way back when we prolly had our best team and shot ever way back when. But then, what team hasn't ended the Caps in the first round?
So tired of the Canes. I don't think Ottawa has enough to beat them.
Would love to see Buffalo beat Boston. Man what a come back from the dead they had last night. Those fans are WAY overdue. Place was dead silent with dread down 2-0, 12 minutes into the 3rd, then Tage scored his 1st ever playoff goal, place erupted. Scored again and again, and the place was going absolutely bonkers. Reminded me a little of the feeling when the Caps magically progressed to the SC. I hope Buffalo can win the series, but Im not sure they can.
Out west I just have less interest.
I'd prefer Edmonton over Ducks, Minnesota over Dallas, Mammoth (or anyone) over Vegas, Avs and Kings are a toss up for me. I try watching these, and just don't care enough. Edmonton is usually fun to watch.
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Ole Dowder got the GWG last night for Vegas
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Rich, I want to see Edmonton beat the Ducks, because I want the Ducks out of the playoffs ASAP. Why? Because the Conference finalists automatically get the last 4 spots in the draft, regardless of where they finished in the regular season point standings. But if the Ducks are defeated before then, their draft position is where their regular season point standing among the playoff teams says they should be. Which I think is pick 18.
Because we have the Ducks' first round draft pick this year, I want it to be #18 rather than #28 or 29 (or 30 or 31 if they would happen to advance to the Stanley Cup finals.)
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OV had that forever contract at $10M per, when he resigned it was at $9.5 per. Which is a comparative bargain considering how much the cap ceiling has gone up in 20 years. It is less than %10 of the team total. It seems like hed sign for a little less for a 1 or 2 year deal. Not sure I want him here for three more unless he makes some serious changes to his training/diet regiment. Arguably, he couldve been a much better player had done so for the past decade, or two.
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The Sandin injury was his knee. He is currently expected to miss the beginning of next season. Thats six months from now.
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The Sandin injury was his knee. He is currently expected to miss the beginning of next season. Thats six months from now.
..... and after he returns, who knows how mobile he's going to be, at least short term. This for a guy who moved to his off side after Carlson was traded, and who relies on mobility rather than strength to play defense.
It is rapidly looking as if the Caps' focus during the summer, has to be, first and foremost, on the right side of the defense. Probably even more than hunting around for a top 6 winger, ESPECIALLY if Ovie returns.
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Dowder with the GWG in Vegas last night and tonight Garnet Hathaway has an assist and a shorty in a 3-0 win for Philthy.
yall fire up fan duel and put some money on Carlson scoring for the DUcks tonight.
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Dowder with the GWG in Vegas last night and tonight Garnet Hathaway has an assist and a shorty in a 3-0 win for Philthy.
yall fire up fan duel and put some money on Carlson Carlsson scoring for the DUcks tonight.
I told you Carlsson would score! :wackysmile:
Johny Q did get an assist though
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I'd lean towards Montreal except they ended us in the first round way back when we prolly had our best team and shot ever way back when. But then, what team hasn't ended the Caps in the first round?
Rich - I have often thought of that year that we lost to Montreal and that was by far the best team they have ever had. There were about three years there that I told my girls (who I took to tons of games) that they had the best team I had ever seen and would win the Cup for sure....
I did get to take my girls to he Finals games in DC and that was one of the highlights of my life!
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Rich - I have often thought of that year that we lost to Montreal and that was by far the best team they have ever had. There were about three years there that I told my girls (who I took to tons of games) that they had the best team I had ever seen and would win the Cup for sure....
I did get to take my girls to he Finals games in DC and that was one of the highlights of my life!
Yes, i bought the whole playoff package for that year where we lost to Montreal in the 1st round. I think we had like 50 shots on goal one game, dominated the game, and still lost. It was very disappointing. Ended in the 1st round. pfffffffffffff
The cup year was phenomenal. It just kept building and building with excitement and anticipation with every round. Well, except Vegas - by the time we got to Vegas it felt like we had it. For lifelong Caps fans, it was certainly one of the best moments in sports history for us.
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So i have a question.....the other night Canes vs Ottowa, the canes scored a goal that was later ruled offsides so no goal, but then a penalty shot was awarded for the slash on the Cane who originally shot the puck (and didn't score)...the goal came after but was then overturned.
HOW can you award a penalty shot to a player that shoots the puck after being offsides? If the play if offsides, they reset the clock and start from when the offsides occurred. Did the refs make a mistake or is this correct? I mean you call back the goal for offsides, but not the penalty? I could understand if it was a fighting or penalty occurring after the whistle or unrelated to the goal, but the penalty was after the offsides, but before the goal (which was overturned for offsides)
:huh:
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It doesnt make sense to me either, but there is apparently something in the rule book that allowed the penalty to stand.
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Its a tad early to be talking about this as nothing is going to happen until the playoffs are over in another two months. But Caps management has confirmed they what to add a top six forward and a right handed Dman this summer. As it stands, they have, seemingly, plenty of cap space.
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Yea, I think penalties can still be earned after reviewed infractions, like offside or high stick, etc. Calling a penalty shot was a little over the top though, imo. Seen plenty of heavy/slash/hook penalties right at the net w/o a "shot" being awarded..
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so what is odd is that NOT in this case, but it is possible based on this scenario that the GWG could be scored in OT and the game ends and the time of the goal would be later than the official time of the penalty.
Say they gave a 2 minute minor instead of the penalty shot (which they prolly should have)....
The offsides was at say 17:00 minutes and the penalty later in the play, like 45 seconds later, so at 17:45. They score at 17:46, then review, call back the goal for offsides, but the penalty stands. They reset the clock at 17:00, then on the PP, they score 20 seconds later at 17:20.
GWG in OT scored at 17:20 on a penalty called at 17:45. :huh: . Now THAT's some redneck math right there.
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I need some of what you are drinking
:snicker:
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Daaaang Hillbilly. Lay off the hooch will ya! :snicker:
Filthy gonna try and end the Hens in 4.. 8-0 I still expect it to go at least 6 games, but who knows.. Maybe the Hens are just too old and worn out for their former bullshit?
In other news, this blows..
https://twitter.com/CapitalsPR/status/2046974371659473014
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When Crosby got that embellishment penalty last night, the tv crew noted it was his first career and how shocked they were at that.
Puck Fittsburgh
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Haha, i love it. Fn Crybaby. This was definitely embelishment. He did get a tap from Hathy's stick, but the reaction looks like Mike Tyson (of old) caught him with a mean uppercut.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1645959773322575 (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1645959773322575)
All kinds of whining from Hens fans talking about this on the interwebs. Saying he has NEVER taking an embellishment penalty.
Well..he has never been called maybe, but this ain't his first diving competition.
Glad Philthy is playing man hockey against these prima donna girls. Also good to see Hathy making a difference. Hope they sweep them fuckers
I love Tochett as their coach. He's about perfect for Philly. Just checked his stats, he was a 3-time 40 goal scorer, got 48 one year. I remember him being a tough power forward with scoring punch, but i would not have thought 48 for him.
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I find it hard to believe that Hathy did that accidentally.
Anyway, theres this..
https://theahl.com/news/protas-garrett-award-top-rookie (https://theahl.com/news/protas-garrett-award-top-rookie)
Bears Protas wins Dudley (Red) Garrett Award as top rookie
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Oh yea, it was definitely on purpose. lol Not sure he meant to slap his face with it, but definitely meant to get close, agitate, etc. Good ol' Hathy! :snicker:
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I find it hard to believe that Hathy did that accidentally.
Anyway, theres this..
https://theahl.com/news/protas-garrett-award-top-rookie (https://theahl.com/news/protas-garrett-award-top-rookie)
Bears Protas wins Dudley (Red) Garrett Award as top rookie
I wonder how long it's been since a 19-year-old won this award. Probably awhile, because Protas got into the AHL because of his international status. Players who play junior hockey in North America are not allowed in the AHL until age 20 - before that, they either need to be on an NHL roster or they have to return to juniors.
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Round 1, Carolina swept Ottawa and Colorado swept the Kings. Damn shame Pilly couldnt pull that off.
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Carbery did in studio analysis during the Ducks Oilers game last night. Hes got a career in broadcasting if this coaching thing doesnt work out.
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Well, our draft pick from Anaheim looks like it is slipping. How in the world does Edmonton not handle the Ducks easily? That winning goal last night was debatable, but looked like it was over the line- however, the whistle probably should have been blown. Edmonton might not have won anyway, but now they are in big trouble. So our pick could get substantially worse.
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Toronto has ruled that a no goal, several times and recently. There has to be visual proof of the puck over the line per the rule book. The replay we got at home didnt have visual proof. If Toronto has a better replay they need to share that with the fans.
Caps will need a new assistant coach..
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/capitals-assistant-coach-kirk-muller-wont-return-gm-patrick-says (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/capitals-assistant-coach-kirk-muller-wont-return-gm-patrick-says)
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Thank you Jesus!! No more Muller Power Play to blame. Hope they get someone who can figure it the fuck out. That and playing his best players on PP1. I don't agree with trying to "balance" it. Just put out Chychy or Hutson, Leno, Strome and Ovi/Wilson and see what happens during the first 60-70 seconds. Please! For the love of god. :snicker:
And yea, that puck was across the line. Least the shots I saw on twitter were. Skate blade covered the line, but common sense says it's over the line, clearly. And we all know from past "offside" calls, all they need is "It's probably over the line" to call offside, so not sure why it'd be any different for a goal.. Im throwing the draft pick out and rooting for Carlson's boys to eliminate Edmonton! :raspberry:
* Figures, the Flyers are in full choke mode now. :(
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Pilly is gonna piss me off
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No kidding. Philthy had them on the ropes whipping their candy asses with real man hockey and they frigging let up.
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i watched last media thing with GM and VP, when asked about any coaching changes, they deferred and said they had not talked with Carbs yet...which says to me they were planning on a change.
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Okay kids, Philthy gets it done tonight. Quit mucking about. make Cindy cry.
Go Montreal
Go Mammoth
GO FLYERS!
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I mean, nobody in the east is very good? The Hurricanes will probably be the representative.. If the Caps could of made it, they'd have as good a chance as anyone, imo..
Montreal won. I suspect the Pens are gonna force game 7. 0-0 with less than 2 mins to go in regulation. Flyers just looks too young and scared.. We'll see.
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Puck Fittsburgh
Flyers advance to the second round against Carolina, another series were the best outcome is the building burning down.
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I suspect the Pens are gonna force game 7. 0-0 with less than 2 mins to go in regulation. Flyers just looks too young and scared.. We'll see.
I suspect youve been hitting that wacky tobacy again
:lol:
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Well the most important thing is Flyers beat Shitsburgh. Now we get to watch the most boring and lackluster second round in history.
Fuck Vegas, Double OT. pfffffffffffffff. Didnt really think the mammoth would get it done, but a boy can hope can't he?
Honestly none of the playoff teams really look that great. They all have some strong aspects but nobody really dominant except maybe the Canes and the Avs. Never know how that puck will bounce though so everyone has a shot I guess. I just don't look at any of these teams in the east and really fear having to play them. Wish Edmonton would wake the hell up.
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I suspect youve been hitting that wacky tobacy again
:lol:
Shit, didn't need anything wacky to suspect that. Flyers got dominated from the 2nd period till the end. Just got that 1 seeing eye shot from down town! Lucky for them, that was all that was needed.. Think they only had 7 shots on goal the last (nearly) 40 minutes of the game. Hens did everything BUT win, thankfully!
Now if they can catch a cold/rusty Carolina team and steal a win or two! Though, the farther they get, the more dangerous they'll be in the future. :-( Just sucks that we missed out. East is wide open imo.. Agree with Hillbilly, Avs vs Hurricanes looking like the finalists at the moment.
LT getting screwed on the Vezina finalist' list is top tier bullshit.
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Im not surprised LT didnt get more of a mention for the Vezina. The overall team record/making the playoffs seems to a big factor as well. Even though its not supposed to be.
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Sorokin (Islanders) was one of the 3.
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Need I remind you the Caps still get fucked because of that one outdoor game where Steckel got blamed for giving Crosby a concussion yet Crosby played the very next game 48 hours later where he got plastered head first into the glass by Headman. The Shitsburgh press still solely blames the Caps for that, and we all know how the NHL favors Shitsburgh.
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A Minnesota franchise has never won The Cup. The North Stars moved to Dallas where the Dallas Stars won a Cup.
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And in other news, Sonny Milano has signed to play next year in Europe. So that ends his Caps tenure and eliminates a bottom-6 depth piece.
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A Minnesota franchise has never won The Cup. The North Stars moved to Dallas where the Dallas Stars won a Cup.
Minnesota beats Dallas, advances to round two.
Anaheim won the Cup about 20 years ago, the last time Edmonton won it was about 40 years ago. Im not concerned with the Carlson deal at this point.
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I mean, LET'S GO DUCKS!! Amiright? :snicker:
I didn't think a team could burn 2 superstars potential as bad as the Caps did with Ovi/Backy, but Edmonton is sure giving it a go! I guess they still have a couple years to get it done, but McDavid/Draisaitl aren't getting any younger..
Glad for Carlson and the Ducks! Im sure they'll crash back to earth here soon, but they'll be who I root for the rest of the season!
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Feel bad for McDavid. He signed a very team-friendly contract so they could get players and he is left holding the bag. He has 2 more years at Edmonton and I would not be surprised to start hearing he wants a trade. IMO he is the most skilled player to ever lace them up. He and Ovi are two very different players, so I am not dissing Ovi. McDavid just is electric and it is a shame he has not won a Cup.
Stinks that our Anaheim draft pick is gonna slip. Heck, they could keep going.
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I saw some posts about Caps getting McDavid. Yeah it would be nice to see him here playing with the young talent we have and Tom and a SOLID goaltender. Imagine if the Caps had a real legitimate scoring threat, that could actually get the puck into the O zone all by himself, and single handedly win you a game now an then.
It's a nice fantasy, and I certainly would take McDavid as a FA, but trading for him would be impossible. YOu would have to send all your young talent in return, and you'd be left with McDavid and a bunch of old guys. YOu'd have a weaker version of what Edmonton has. less the Draisaidle piece.
It looksto me like Oilers just didn't quite have it this year. They struggled quite a bit this season and didn't look like the threat they were in the last few seasons. I don't think they are washed up and done, but the clock is ticking louder for sure. Maybe they right the ship next year. I think all the trade whispers are just that..whispers.
Yay Minnesota. BOO Vegas. I guess Ima root for the Wild from here on. Nobody left that i like. I don't mind the Avs, but damn they have had their share of success.
And Montreal...WTF are you doing? you can't score 1 goal in a whole game? It seems nobody in the playoffs has any scoring punch this year.
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If and when McDavid leaves Edmonton, it will be on his terms and he will only go to a top tier contender. He's got enough money and just needs the Cup. Like Ovi, he deserves at least one Cup!
I've always liked the Avs as they have the second best guy in terms of overall skills - McKinnon - just unbelievable. I like watching that whole team play and I think they have another gear that nobody else has.
The Canes can be really good as well so I would not be surprised to see them in the finals.
On another note, I guess we had a prospect join up with Hershey and play to other night - Gastron? Maybe some others? I wonder how they are doing.
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Oof. Canes vs Flyers is just ugly. Flyers are outmatched. Canes are relentless. Flyers look a bit like the Caps struggling to get into the zone on the PP. Flyers have Tod Rierdon as asst coach...and the Flyers have literally the worst PP in the NHL
Did Tochett actually choose Reirdon?
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And in other news, the Bears beat the WB/S Penguins 2-1 tonight to knot their series at 1 game apiece, after the Pens won the first game 4-2.
IProtas and Cristall assisted on both goals tonight. Protas also scored one of the two goals for Hershey in game 1. So he continues to drive play in the playoffs.
I have to believe that IProtas is going to make the team in the fall. You don't bring a guy like that up, use him to center AProtas and Wilson, and put him on PP1 when you are trying to win out and make the playoffs, and not have serious intentions about him for next season. Cristall I'm not quite so sure about, but I suspect he'll get a full chance to make the roster as well.
No matter what Ovechkin decides about playing next season, the times they are a changin'.
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I've watched a few of these Lightning/Habs games and have yet to see anything special from Lane Hutson? :huh: Cole looked way more impactful, to me anyway.. He's got 22 more minutes or so to prove me wrong. lol
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Tampa does not advance to round two
:banana:
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With round 2 starting, of the remaining teams, a Minnesota franchise and Buffalo have never won the Cup. It is possible at this juncture for both teams to play each other in the final.
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Habs: Fewest shots on goal (9) to win a playoff game in NHL history! :snicker:
Are the Avs and Wild always that leaky? Fun to watch, but somebody got to play some D at some point. lol
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Fairly shitty night of NHL playoff hockey. Ducks lost :( and Carolina is gonna have the easiest path to the finals in recent history. :-( If somehow Carolina doesn't make it, I hope they fire BrindAmour. Just looking at that dude pisses me off. :snicker:
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:yawn: ... is pretty much how i feel about the teams that are left and the playoffs in general this year. Seems to me the matchups last couple few years have been better in the playoffs with some great series in every round. This year just seems not all that interesting
I just cant see Philly beating the Canes. Buffalo and Montreal might be good series, I'd like to see Buffalo move on, but I think Mick is right, Carolina should coast thru any of these teams.
Vegas wins...boo.
Minnesota and Avs apparently can both score, but I think the Avs will take them in 5 games. Would like Minnesota win the west and Buffalo win the east, but I would rather the Caps were in it too.
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Hey - draft lottery tonight. Caps have a .5% chance to move up 10 picks! Wahoo! I don't know why teams don't try and stockpile picks for a 2 or three year period to try and concentrate a massive improvement and go for a Cup. If I were a GM, I would trade my first round pick for three years in a row for future picks so I would have 2 first round picks in three straight years, plus the other picks you would add. Of course I would be fired before it all paid off!
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Fairly shitty night of NHL playoff hockey. Ducks lost :( and Carolina is gonna have the easiest path to the finals in recent history. :-( If somehow Carolina doesn't make it, I hope they fire BrindAmour. Just looking at that dude pisses me off. :snicker:
I WANT the Ducks to lose, to protect another draft pick in the teens. If the Ducks win this series, the pick the Caps got from them for Carlson drops 10 picks or more.
Oh, and another note regarding the prospects: I just noticed, in looking at the Caps prospect listing, that IProtas and Cole Hutson have been removed. Cristall/Chesley are still on. I think that is an indication that the Caps see IProtas and Cole as members of the big club now, even though IProtas was moved down to Hershey, probably to get playoff seasoning.
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I think Protas and Hutson are both 100% Caps next year. They both showed, albeit in a limited amount of time, that they are impactful players at this level already. Another year for Protus in Hershey would be a waste of his talent. Hutson i think, even though he is young, was a higher level prospect to begin with, and not to different from Leonard in that he was expected to play in the NHL right away.
Cristall nearly made the team last year out of camp. I think he will make the squad this year, but I guess that depends on what talent the Caps can bring in over the summer.
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I WANT the Ducks to lose, to protect another draft pick in the teens.
I know YOU do. I don't give a shit. Im rooting for Dylan and the Ducks!! :rofl:
I keep reading fantasy island posts about how we may try and bring him back after the offseason. lol People trippin on the interwebs.. We're also gonna package up Strome, Protas and Hutson for McDavid. Or Strome, McMike and a prospect/picks for Brady Tkachuk. :snicker:
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I know YOU do. I don't give a shit. Im rooting for Dylan and the Ducks!! :rofl:
I keep reading fantasy island posts about how we may try and bring him back after the offseason. lol People trippin on the interwebs.. We're also gonna package up Strome, Protas and Hutson for McDavid. Or Strome, McMike and a prospect/picks for Brady Tkachuk. :snicker:
Hell if you brought McDavid, you'd want Hutson to stay to get him the puck., but even those three might not get you McDavid I don't think. I would not part with Hutson though.
And WTF would McJesus want to come here? People be cra-cra
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Ok, color me confused as usual.. San Jose just moved up to the 2nd pick in the draft lottery.. Why are they all cheering in San Jose? Don't we get their pick? :huh:
lol. Nevermind. We have the Ducks pick, dummy! :raised-eyebrow: :rofl: No Hillybilly, haven't even STARTED drinking or smoking yet tonight. :raspberry:
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https://www.nhl.com/news/toronto-maple-leafs-win-2026-nhl-draft-lottery (https://www.nhl.com/news/toronto-maple-leafs-win-2026-nhl-draft-lottery)
Caps get pick #16
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https://www.nhl.com/news/toronto-maple-leafs-win-2026-nhl-draft-lottery (https://www.nhl.com/news/toronto-maple-leafs-win-2026-nhl-draft-lottery)
Caps get pick #16
AND Anaheim's pick, whatever it turns out to be.
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I don't know why teams don't try and stockpile picks for a 2 or three year period to try and concentrate a massive improvement and go for a Cup. If I were a GM, I would trade my first round pick for three years in a row for future picks so I would have 2 first round picks in three straight years, plus the other picks you would add. Of course I would be fired before it all paid off!
The problem, as I see it, with this strategery is draft pools vary quite a bit from year to year. You may not get anything worth spending a draft pick on, and thats in a good year.
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16th pick shocker. well we don't know what to do with picks except throw them away on trades.
When was the last time the caps drew a decent pick. Hmmm... Hutson, Lil Pro, Leonard, Cristall, Miro, Iorio, Lappy big Pro, McMike.... :wackysmile:
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And Colorado won. Pretty easily I think. They are just on right now. Passing, shooting, skating all looks good. PP is downright scary. They will be hard to beat if they keep playing at this pace.
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"With the 16th pick overall, the Washington Capitals select Tom Wilson" :uh-huh:
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Hey - these days I think 1st round picks are highly valuable. With the way that junior talent is being developed now, these young kids are really good at an early age. They are way better skaters than they were 10 years ago and more of them are making it to the NHL in their first or second years. I think the Caps trade of Carlson was a great move and I just want the Ducks to lose!
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Hey - these days I think 1st round picks are highly valuable. With the way that junior talent is being developed now, these young kids are really good at an early age. They are way better skaters than they were 10 years ago and more of them are making it to the NHL in their first or second years. I think the Caps trade of Carlson was a great move and I just want the Ducks to lose!
Of course, Carlson has been a whipping boy for fans for years. But coach after coach ran him out there as a 1st pair defenseman, and he was out on the PP and PK as well. And since he's playing for Anaheim, it isn't as if they got him to fill a lesser role. He's routinely played 20+ minutes a night, and played close to 25 in the first game against the Knights. For whatever reason, the NHL personnel that employ him see him differently than the fans do.
I just wonder if we saw his brain freezes and thought "we pay $8 million for that?" And don't realize that virtually every defenseman in the NHL has the same brain freezes, so Carlson doesn't look as bad to his employers as he does to the fans.
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Hey i had no issue with Carlson (well...not really), he was highly valuable to the Caps over the years. However, he IS in decline and i expect he will be not nearly as valuable in the coming years. True of every player, but i guy who plays his style of play needs his wheels cause he sure as shit is not gonna hit someone on a regular enough basis, so once he loses his wheels, he will be lesser and lesser of a player. Orpik with no wheels was fine, but he was a different player. More to the point, I did NOT want to sign JC to a new contract, and I believe he and mgmt were SO far apart on that contract they moved him. Perfect for my wishes, got something in return for a guy who wasn't going to be here next year, AND one I did not WANT to be here next year...and the following 4-5 years of decline.
And yes, he is still an asset. He's actually a good fit for a young Ducks team who actually made the playoffs. He can help the younger guys and contribute to the team success at the same time. SUcks for him I am sure to be traded, but he's in a way better spot for this playoff season anyway. I sure as hell hope we are not entertaining thoughts of bringing him back next year as FA.
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Carlson definitely brings something to the table. Though I increasingly cant say what that is. He doesnt really play to his size. He is capable of being faster than he plays most nights. His poke check has seen better days. And he never was a Norris candidate. Putting up points is not the same thing. Most nights he had trouble passing the eye test. He seems to be reinvigorated after the trade.
In other news.. NHL officially informs teams of the 2026-27 Salary cap and payroll range:
Floor: $76.9M
Midpoint: $90.4M
Ceiling: $104M
Maximum individual salary: $20.8M
This is up from $95.5M of the 25-26 season.
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It sucks when you have to trade guys who don't see the writing on the wall. I image if Ovi wasn't the GOAT they'd be pushing him out the door as well.. But you can't really play that game with multiple aging franchise players. I loved to criticize JC, but it was mostly due to his salary and style of play. If he was a 5m guy, he'd of been more of a hero around here, imo. He got paid too much for too long and apparently isn't/wasn't ready to slow down on that. Now that he's gone Im more fond of him. lol Hope he has a good time out west, wish him the best!
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That contract was the primary issue, too much money and too many years.
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I am diggin this Dowd vs Carlson series. Im kinda cheering for Dowd but Vegas deserves to lose. On principle alone.
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Good on you all for supporting Carlson - but it feels like a little bit of revisionist history to me. I've seen too many posts criticizing his play, not in the context of his salary, but rather, that for the good of the team he needed to be traded because his play was holding the team back. Now maybe some of that was merely game thread hysteria, but it's been consistent enough over the years that it certainly seems like the criticism was about his play per se.
As for his salary - look around the league at some of the ludicrous contracts littering the landscape. And it's going to get worse with the big jump in salary cap coming over the next few seasons. $8 million AAV for a top pair defenseman who gives you well over 20 minutes a night, plays in all situations, and has generally not been a detriment to the team on balance is far, far, far from an example of a contract that has turned out to be a barrier to team success and a payment-versus-performance disaster.
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I here you BlackIce. I was a big complainer about Carlson especially early on. At the time he signed the multiyear 8m per, it was WAY high for his level of play at the time. I have no doubt the experts know more than we do and Carlson's play did improve and he became a very key member of the Caps over the years. He got better and better as the years progressed. I don't think 8m is ridiculous currently for the number of minutes and roles he played. He was always just a bit too soft for me for a guy his size. Okay soft is the wrong word; I doubt very much there is a pro athlete anywhere that is soft, but i wanted more physical play from him for a defenceman. Every player is different, and skating and stick checks has become the norm rather than putting the body on someone so maybe he was just ahead of his time. I do think however, signing him to a new multiyear contract at this point was definitely not a good thing for the Caps. I also feel bad for his family having to move from what has been their home for sol long....but then...pay me 1/10 of his salary and i will move my family as well.
I recall we used to rag on Marcus Johansson quite a bit as well. Basically because he was highly skilled but could never score. Doesn't mean we didn't like the guy, sometimes it is the hysteria of the game and the chat I am sure. Semin and Kuzy, and Vranna got some of that as well, but some of it was deserved. Kuzy was just such a waste of talent it pisses you off. I think McMike gets some of that now too.
If you want to go way back...Carlson reminds me of Larry Murphy. Man that guy played a similar too marshmallow game, but in a time where it was really out of the norm. I recall "hit him with your purse Murph" comment being used quite a bit. He turned out to be a hall of famer and won 4 cups, so...he can say look at my purse now Im sure.
I still don't think Carlson was ever a realistic Norris candidate. He was very good and very utilized and very important to this team, but the best D in the league? ...never.
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Yea, 8m today, for your #1 D doesn't sound nearly as bad as it did when they drew it up. He was taking heat from the day he signed it, due to term and amount..
I love Dowder, but I just can't do Vegas.. At least not yet. lol Feels like I'll be voting WEST regardless.. I'd rather watch soccer or golf than see Vegas vs Carolina.
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Yea, 8m today, for your #1 D doesn't sound nearly as bad as it did when they drew it up. He was taking heat from the day he signed it, due to term and amount..
I love Dowder, but I just can't do Vegas.. At least not yet. lol Feels like I'll be voting WEST regardless.. I'd rather watch soccer or golf than see Vegas vs Carolina.
Well then, we may be entering the next era of controversy. Because we now seemingly have the twin towers - AP and IP - on the roster for next season. AP, at 6'6", 250 lbs., has established himself as a finesse player with relatively few hits and blocked shots (though he is seemingly very responsible and effective defensively), and his younger brother, in a very small sample size, looks to be cut from the same cloth. When are we going to start harping on them, especially Alexai, for not being physical enough?
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BigPro is on a less than 3.5m contract. He can play anyway he likes. They sign him to something stupid like they (whoever) did PLD and we can start planning his demise! lol When they get the big bucks, they need to deliver or have thick skin.. Them's the rules of sport!
Not sure what Tocchet told the Flyers at intermission, but realistically it should of been "you got 20 minutes to keep your season alive".. They leave Filly at anything but tied 2-2 and they're toast. They lose tonight and go down 3-0 they're burnt toast.. Down 2-1 with a period to go.
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Pilly loses game 3 4-1, Canes go up 3-0 in the series. 58 penalty minutes in the game.
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BigPro is on a less than 3.5m contract. He can play anyway he likes. They sign him to something stupid like they (whoever) did PLD and we can start planning his demise! lol When they get the big bucks, they need to deliver or have thick skin.. Them's the rules of sport!
Not sure what Tocchet told the Flyers at intermission, but realistically it should of been "you got 20 minutes to keep your season alive".. They leave Filly at anything but tied 2-2 and they're toast. They lose tonight and go down 3-0 they're burnt toast.. Down 2-1 with a period to go.
So may I presume that, if AP continues to play the way he is for the next couple of years, when it comes time to negotiate his next contract - which WILL be for much bigger bucks - you would then be in favor of letting him go at age 28, because he would be a big guy not playing the type of game he should for the bigger bucks?
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Big Pro is not as physical player as many his size, but he does not avoid contact either. I would not say anyone has ever accused or indicated he was soft or anti physical in any way. He husltes 100% of the time, is responsible 2-way player, mucks it up along the boards and is very difficult to play against. It's really hard to fault anyone who hustles 100% of the time. No, he doesn't destroy people with hits like Wilson, but he is physical. Not defending him, but it seems an odd comparison. Also don't think anyone really expected Pro to be a super star, he was not touted as being such, and he is not being paid like one. However, JC was being paid (early on in that very long contract) at a very high figure compared to the position and the league, so, much more is expected of him. He had times where he skated or played like he just didn't care. He looked lackadaisical and uninterested. I don't believe that was truly the case, but that's what it looked like. He took much grief for not being physical enough, which was maybe not fair, but an honest assessment of his play. Yes he has many skills and was a very valuable member of the caps for a long time. He also came off as being dopey or dumb, and I am sure that is not the case either, but it lends to some of the ragging on him as well. When you are making top dollar and it appears you play like you don't care at times, it becomes an issue.
Pro is paid a mediocre salary for a player in his position. Its all relative. I have no problem paying players what they are worth. But at the time of the signing, very few believed the JC 8 year contract was warranted. Great for us, it turned out to be a decent deal for what we got in return. He evolved into a better player, and a stalwart of this team.
I don't believe anyone hated JC when he was on this team and loves him now. I also don't believe he was as great as all the hype...Norris candidate and such, but part of that is my own bias regarding that trophy for a "defencemen".
However, his play has declined, and will continue to do so. The stage the Caps are in; rebuilding with youth, etc, is NOT a time to re-sign an aged JC to a new contract. Wishing him well now that he is gone is only natural, he was valued member of the Caps team for a very long time. I hope he does get a team to sign him to a 3-4 year deal at 7-8m per year...as long as it is NOT the Caps.
OH, and BTW.... my son called me out a few weeks back, hating on JC (while on the ducks) when he lazily skated back, made a feeble stick check attempt, and the guy burned around him went to the net and scored. It reminded me of why i bitched about him when he was on the Caps and reinforced my belief trading him NOW was a good thing for the Caps.
Also, FWIW, I bitch about everyone so there's that. Even Ovi. You can certainly find fault with Ovi's style of play, but he is the GOAT, and on another level, and he made hockey in this town and made the Caps what they are. Being a lifelong fan, its hard to fault Ovi now when he has done what he has done for this team and leauge AND has the the records he has.
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So may I presume that, if AP continues to play the way he is for the next couple of years, when it comes time to negotiate his next contract - which WILL be for much bigger bucks - you would then be in favor of letting him go at age 28, because he would be a big guy not playing the type of game he should for the bigger bucks?
Your askin what I think we should do with BigPro, 3-4 years from now? :huh: Sorry we touched a nerve, you'll be fine! :snicker:
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Buffalo lost game 3 at Montreal 6-2, 80 minutes combined penalty minutes. Montreal up 2-1 in the series.
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Welp, the Wild just turned in their request to be called the Toast. :smirk: Don't think anyone is stopping the Avs this year.
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Yeah i watched the game last night. WIld had some chances and made it look interesting, but Avs finally woke up. Should have been about 5-1 Avs in the second based on the play, but I was pulling for Minnesota anyway.
This series is pretty fun to watch, but I just can't find that much interest in seeing anyone in the West except the Wild.
Buffalo and Montreal can be decent match up, but neither seems to be really firing on all cylinders. One or the other alternates in having a good game while the other is mediocre. I don't really care about either team and feels inevitable either will be stomped by the Canes.
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Yea, Canes vs Avs looks like a safe bet. :-\ I'd love to see the Canes knocked out before the finals, because mainly, Brind Amour's face offends me. :snicker:
* Buffalo just tied up the series with the Habs!
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Yea, Canes vs Avs looks like a safe bet. :-\ I'd love to see the Canes knocked out before the finals, because mainly, Brind Amour's face offends me. :snicker:
* Buffalo just tied up the series with the Habs!
Oooookaaaaaay.
he does look a bit like a horse that had some electrodes placed in his nether regions
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Ducks lose in OT. PFffffffff.
Guess who was out of position, missed coverage on his man (the goal scorer) for this GWG? John Q Dylan Carlson.
His offensive instincts to abandon his position and prematurely head up ice, left his area of ice wide open for the GWG.
All 5, well at least 4 Ducks failed to do their job or recover, but JC is the right D here and the crease and left corner of the net is WIDE open for the guy to stand there alone and score from. It's not like the man snuck in behind the D from the blue line either, this man comes from the low right corner, across bottom of face-off circle, across the crease and turns and plants by the side of net and waits on the puck. JC is up between the top of face off circles heading up ice. Not Johnny's fault, but sure was his responsibility and postiion.
This of course happens to the best players on every team, and when i first watched this I did not know who was on the ice and though..Oh, that's terrible coverage by the Ducks and the D man is way out of position....then i watch the replay several times and thought...that's our Johhny.
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couple pics for last post...
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FFS, 2nd pic didnt attach
All Five Ducks puck watching, ignoring the man alone at the net
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Bummer they caught JC (and the rest of the Ducks) out of position.. I don't think anyone in the playoffs plays/has much Defense? Least not from what I've seen. Lots of offense and let the goalie handle the D. lol
And it's official. They are now the Minnesota Toast! ::) Up 3-0 and lose 4-3 in OT.. Gave up 2 late in the 3rd.. Guess I'll pull for Vegas now, to help our draft position. Cause neither one is gonna beat the Avs. (Unless Makar is actually hurt? That may make it interesting)
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yeah this playoffs has been a drag. Nobody i wanted to win is winning. Maybe Buffalo can pull it out, but not sure i really care, other than they have been so long without success it'd nice to see. They just don't look all that inspiring to me. I have little interest in watching Canes beat up on whoever the next victim is.
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Pitt lost in R1 to Flyers, the Flyers got swept in R2.. its not all bad
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True Dat! :pointdown:
Pitt lost in R1 to Flyers, the Flyers got swept in R2.. its not all bad
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Habs win 6-3. These scores are nuts. Does anyone play defense anymore? 6 ga's in a game 5 of the playoffs and I don't think any were empty net.
Now Vegas scores a minute into their game. These teams aint serious. lol
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Colorado vs Vegas for round 3 in the west
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Yup, the name change request has been submitted.. The Anaheim Toast! lol
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Colorado scores with 3 -1 /2 minutes in the game to make it 3-2, then again with 80 or so seconds left with the goalie pulled to tie it and force OT, then taking the prize in OT is a painful way for Minnesota to go out, especially when they were up 3-0 in this game.
Colorado just looks like they don't want to go away.
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Yea, leading 3-0 in a playoff game and lose 4-3 is weak af.. But the real story should be the condition of Makar? He left that game holding his arm/shoulder. Straight down the tunnel.. Haven't heard or followed up on his status, but if he's out it could get interesting in the west finals. Though, I still don't think VGK are much threat.
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Habs got smoked in game 6, after being up 3-1, at home. Now they're mad. :rofl: The scores of these games are a trip.
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Carolina has now had a full week off. Their game 1 round 3 will be Thursday against Buffalo or Montreal.. game 7 Monday night.
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Was hoping the Flyers would catch em' rusty, but that didn't happen. Maybe one of these guys can. I don't think they've lost a game yet, in the post season, have they? :(
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Nope. Carolina made NHL history by sweeping back to back rounds.
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Carolina gonna sweep the Habs too.. :( Was hoping Buffalo would pull it out.
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Fuck the Habs
:raised-eyebrow:
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I mean, tbh, Im pullin for a tie myself.. 8-0 :snicker:
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Buffalo outplayed the Habs most of the game and all of the third period and OT. They kinda got screwed out of a goal with an early whistle as well, but their guy did jab at the goalies pads to get the puck going. Not sure which way I would have called that one, but if I am a Buffalo fan, I am not happy. I thought it was interesting that they didn't make too big of a deal about it on the TV coverage - and I don't think they talked about it at all on the in between period coverage. Kinda makes you think the league didn't want the controversy and put the clamps on them.
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I saw the replay, but didn't have sound. Was there a whistle or did they use the "was in the act of blowing the whistle"? If there was a whistle, imo, it was a neutral call. If no whistle, then I'd be mad. Either way, quick whistles are a thing, for some reason. Buffalo got that DC Sports curse going on for sure though.
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Beags, I agree...on all of it, Buffalo deserved the win, but didn't get it. I thought it curious also how little attention the paid to the non-goal. It was a huge deal; like a game altering, series altering deal, and they just swept it under the rug. I agree the guy jabbed the puck out, but WAS it actually covered? They never showed any other angle of it. I think it was a premature whistle, but that happens, and the puck definitely went in after the whistle. I figured they would pull the ole "he was in the process of blowing the whistle", etc, but it was def after the whistle, so there is not much to be done, even if the whistle was premature. I did here them say you can allow a goal after the whistle if it is continuation of the puck moving in, but when touched by another player then NO.
But beyond that, I feel 100% they have reduced the review and discussion on questionable or downright bad calls. Half the time there is a mystery call, they go to commercial and come back and do not show replays...its sucks. THen the talking heads just glaze right by it. I think there is an intentional effort being made to do this...not trash the refs or the calls. Refs will make mistakes, the game is too fast. I certainly do not want to add more reviews and opportunity to turn calls over, but i would like to see the replay. Sure wish they would fix the stupid offsides challenge review. The way it is done now is just downright stupid.
Regardless, it sucked. I wanted Buffalo to get the win, and I figured since they totally outplayed Montreal, Buffalo would lose in OT on a silly bounce or something - just seems to be the way it goes in the NHL sometimes.
Montreal wins in OT in game 7 in both series and deserved to lose both of those games.
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Yea, Habs are hangin' by thread. Won't be suprised to see them swept in round 3. Though, they did say they were 3-0 vs Hurricanes in regular season! We know, all too well, that means Jack Shit in the playoffs..
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Rich - that was how I saw it as well. The whistle definitely blew before the puck was knocked in, but it was a quick whistle. Sometimes they do go over controversial calls and bring in the old ref - Dave Jackson I think - but they didn't do that on this one and barely showed a replay. You are right that they don't want to call out the refs and I get that, but in a Game 7 and with Buffalo involved, I think they should have paid it more attention. I really can't believe that they made no mention of it in the intermission - with Subban, etc.... Buffalo got screwed but they could/should have still won that game.
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https://twitter.com/Capitals/status/2057196505497518267
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Im guessing TvR is moving on
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Tarik said the signing was due to Sandin's knee injury.. Never heard a whole lot about it, but think he tore a ligament. IIRC they said he wouldn't be ready by season's start.
* Dowder's eng put Colorado away in game 1 of WCF. No Makar gonna make it interesting if he can't go here shortly..
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Yeah i figured the Lindjegren signing was a sign they know they will be without Sandin.
AND I sure the heck hope TVR is moving on. I worry they will sign him as a stable anchor, but I am afraid he is more of an ANCHOR dragging us down
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Liljergren is interesting. After they got him, they played him a bit but he sat out some games that I thought they would play him in to see if they wanted to keep him. That's a pretty decent salary and they must have liked him. He was a first rounder (17th) in 2017 so he has the pedigree and maybe they think he can be another Dylan Strome story.
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Hopefully we can get in a situation where we can play some actual Defense next year and not just stress over scoring a goal and putting the load on LT's shoulders to win the game. I swear we'd be picking in the top3-5 if it wasn't for LT.
And though we all hope TVR moves on, I really don't recall saying "Fuck, TVR AGAIN" much last year? The whole D unit was bad, as far as playing defense goes.. Maybe they need to work on the scheme/plan..
But Lilj looked fine from what I remember of the 2 games he played. Or was it 3 games? Small sample, either way.. But IIRC he could skate, wasn't shy physical wise and wasn't really noticed on the ice for his play in the D zone (that's a good thing, imo.) Don't think he's gonna score much/any, but we need to address that with a star center/winger..
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Kyle Bush has died.
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Gutted.. No words. RIP Rowdy. :'(
(https://i.postimg.cc/brfbrDW6/5yvo15dfgh1e1.jpg)
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Its only been about 5 hours since it was reported he went to the hospital. Some kind of illness, and hes reportedly not been feeling well since the last race.
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Carolina scores 33 seconds in..
Montreal evens it up 27 seconds later
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Caps hire a new assistant/PP coach..
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/players/bennett-the-perfect-fit-for-a-capitals-team-in-desperate-need-of-a-power-play-renaissance (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/players/bennett-the-perfect-fit-for-a-capitals-team-in-desperate-need-of-a-power-play-renaissance)
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Caps hire a new assistant/PP coach..
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/players/bennett-the-perfect-fit-for-a-capitals-team-in-desperate-need-of-a-power-play-renaissance (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/players/bennett-the-perfect-fit-for-a-capitals-team-in-desperate-need-of-a-power-play-renaissance)
I don't know why this new coach is a "perfect fit" for the PP. He was with the Islanders last season and they finished 30th in PP percentage - below the Caps.
As for Liljegren's signing, I guess since the Caps were playing pretty well for the most part down the stretch they wanted to dance with who brung 'em, meaning TVR, rather than playing Liljegren. Lil is seen as a bottom-pairing defenseman I believe, so he fits the TVR mold. The question is, how is the defense on the left side going to be ordered? Who's the 3rd LHD among Chychryn/Fehervary/Hutson? Hutson has a natural D partner in Roy, but I think Roy is considered top 4 on the right side. That leaves Liljegren paired with Fehervary, but neither of them has significant offensive chops. The Caps will still need to find someone to pair with Chychryn, unless Roy pairs with him. In which case, we need a big, strong stay-at-home RHD to pair with Hutson. SOMEONE has to be brought in, because McIlrath is nothing but a very occasional fill-in.
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I feel at least 60% of our PP woes last year were the personnel on the ice. It took Carbery most of the season before he started playing Leonard on PP1. As soon as he did it was noticeably better, imo. Then the addition of Hutson. Hopefully that with fresh eyes will have it competent at least.
Finally someone whooped the Canes!
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I feel at least 60% of our PP woes last year were the personnel on the ice. It took Carbery most of the season before he started playing Leonard on PP1. As soon as he did it was noticeably better, imo. Then the addition of Hutson. Hopefully that with fresh eyes will have it competent at least.
Finally someone whooped the Canes!
I think you're right, Mick - there's only so much a coach can do given the personnel that are on the ice. Part of the coach's job is to put the right people on the ice. But that can be a tricky thing - how long do you stick with personnel who have done it for you in the past before you reach the point where you HAVE to switch it up?
I follow baseball as well as hockey. This baseball season there seem to be quite a few players who have been very good in the past who are off to horrendous starts this season - and the season is now almost 1/3 over. It would seem that the amount of rope these players have earned to work their way out of their troubles depends on how good they have been, and for how long.
An EXTREME example of this in the case of the Caps is the elephant in the room - what is going to happen with Ovie? He has been among the greatest to ever play the game, for a VERY long time. But we know that he is now a very limited player (no criticism: Father Time is undefeated), and his remaining capabilities have to be managed, which causes the coach to have to juggle other players in the forward rotation to accommodate when it is advisable to play Ovie and when it isn't. In light of that, what has Ovie earned IF he wants to come back this upcoming season? Has the earned the right to get a contract for any non-ludicrous amount (say, up to $10 million?) Should the Caps say "we'd like you back, but only up to a certain salary point (to pick a number, say, $5 million. And if this is the right course of action, the next question is, what should that max number be?)? Or should the Caps say "We as an organization need to move on. We aren't going to offer you a contract, and you can become a free agent if you wish."?
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Damn. Dusty in here again today.. :'(
Fucking dead silent as they unload the (now #33) RCR #8 Chevy at Charlotte. At the end you can see Bubba taking it hard. I pray for peace for the entire Nascar family. This shit hit's hard.. :-(
https://twitter.com/dustinlong/status/2058159186773426378
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An EXTREME example of this in the case of the Caps is the elephant in the room - what is going to happen with Ovie? He has been among the greatest to ever play the game, for a VERY long time. But we know that he is now a very limited player (no criticism: Father Time is undefeated), and his remaining capabilities have to be managed, which causes the coach to have to juggle other players in the forward rotation to accommodate when it is advisable to play Ovie and when it isn't. In light of that, what has Ovie earned IF he wants to come back this upcoming season? Has the earned the right to get a contract for any non-ludicrous amount (say, up to $10 million?) Should the Caps say "we'd like you back, but only up to a certain salary point (to pick a number, say, $5 million. And if this is the right course of action, the next question is, what should that max number be?)? Or should the Caps say "We as an organization need to move on. We aren't going to offer you a contract, and you can become a free agent if you wish."?
BlackIce - at this point, I think it is 95% that Ovi is coming back and if so, it is 100% that it will be as a Capital. There is no way Leonsis will let Ovi not finish out as a Cap. Ovi can basically name his price and Ted has to say yes. On the salary front, Ovi could take one of two positions.
1. He is the greatest goal scorer of all time and arguably has been underpaid in the past. He can demand that highest salary in history and deserves to be recognized in his last year. Gotta pay him at least $15 million!
2. He recognizes that his skills have diminished and the club needs to pay other guys and bring in talent so they have a chance at the playoffs - so he takes a team-friendly deal at $8 million (no way he takes less than that).
Let's just hope he doesn't demand 2 years.
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Colorado is a disappointment so far
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Missing Makar.. I didn't pay attention over the weekend. Seen that NC rebounded vs the Habs. ::)
*5 minutes into the 3rd, tied 2-2. Habs have 11 shots on goal.. Doesn't seem feasible this holds up much longer. They're even worse than us at putting pucks on net.
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Canes win in OT, took 15 minutes
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They're cooked. They couldn't even register a shot on goal the last 25+ minutes of play. Im gonna predict the series doesn't go past game 6. And they'll be lucky if it makes it that far..
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Yeah i think Montreal's has used up all their good luck. Can't continue to win when consistently being out played 85% of every game.
Colorado ---OOF. Thought they were better. Haven't really watched due to timing, but I honestly don't care except that I don't like Vegas.
I really have no interest in any team left, and the games have not been great this year.
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Well, at least 1 team is playing D.. VGK completely shut down the best offense in the NHL, again. It was cringe watching. I kept waiting for something to happen, but all they (Col) had was a lucky bounce deflection with 1min to go.. The other 59 minutes they basically got dominated. I didn't pay enough attention to the series to know what Vegas did exactly, but I heard the announcers say they adjusted the way they played D against "the best skating/top offensive team in the league". (Think they said they took away the middle of the ice, protected the "house") but whatever it was, the Caps need to take notes!
Probably not gonna watch much of VGN vs NC. Can't stomach either tbh. But maybe, if the Habs can... nevermind, aint happening. lol
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Shocking that Colorado lost. Vegas management (McPhee) is looking good for replacing the coach mid way through the season. Bold move and it paid off. Torts is a piece of work and the team is playing for him. Still can't believe Colorado lost.
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Boo Hiss. I watched first 2 periods...really was not holding my attention cuz i don't care about either team and was falling asleep.
This whole SC playoff season has been pretty blah for me since literally every team i had any interest in was beaten.
Doubt I will even watch the finals. Not sure i have ever done that before.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/x82gFxND/habsburnttoast.jpg)
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haha, not only toast but well done toast. THat's about right I think
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For the sake of brevity, I hope the Canes win game 5. That, and no way the Habs defeat Vegas.
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Yep, needs to be a quick death.. The finals will probably be some good hockey. Not sure my stomach can take it though. Can't stand either team. Hopefully it goes 7 and every home game is like 5-0, 6-1 for the opponent. Just embarrass both of em' until someone HAS to win it. :snicker:
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Yes, sadly i want the Canes to get it over with and we can get to the finals. Canes and Vegas probably is a decent match up, I just don't really care about either one.
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Vegas at Carolina game 1 is Tuesday.
Isle of Man TT is running, the race at Le Sarthe is in two weeks.
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That Isle of Man stuff is some of the craziest sumbitches on the planet!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZhfXHg_3bs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZhfXHg_3bs)
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Are the SC finals canceled for general lack of interest?
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Still says 8pm tonight for game 1. Though I do think they are considering cancelling the series.. :snicker:
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Fairly embarrassing game for the home team!! :rofl: 6 more to go.. :raspberry:
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Oof, up 2 goals early, then...
Not the most stellar goal tending by either team. I just can't get into it. I fell asleep some time in the 3rd
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Im not rooting for Carolina, Im rooting against Vegas
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Im not rooting for Carolina, Im rooting against Vegas
Think Im just the opposite.. I just can't do Carolina. I can't do Vegas either, but "Dowder".. Still hoping they play to a tie in game 7, for so long, both teams just forfeit. :rofl:
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I just cant do either. Although i don't think I realized it has been 20 years since the Canes won the Cup. I'm not sure why I don't like the Canes, but I do now that I dislike Vegas more, so I guess...F Vegas, go Canes. Vegas NEVER winning a cup ever would be fine by me.
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I didnt realize Dowd wasnt on the Cup squad here, he signed that summer. This is likely his only chance at a Cup. But Vegas needs to win for that.
:O=
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How embarrassing for Vegas.. Lost a 2 goal lead in the 3rd.. Total embarrassment! :snicker: I really don't give a shit. Im still hoping they both lose. :praying: :rofl:
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Too bad these games are so boring. You could get interested if it weren't Vegas and Canes.
Funny, i watch and I don't want either team to win. :wackysmile:
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I didnt realize Dowd wasnt on the Cup squad here, he signed that summer. This is likely his only chance at a Cup. But Vegas needs to win for that.
:O=
Yeah me neither, I thought he was too, but it was SO long ago >:(
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbvMIf4dwYI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbvMIf4dwYI)
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One of the very best behind the wheel and in the booth! His driving was before my time, but Ned and Benny on the TV call was prime!! RIP Gentleman Ned Jarrett.
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I turned the game off after 2, with the VGN up 4-0. How they came close to losing that game is beyond me. VGN 5-4 in double ot. Embarrassing win! lol They literally should of/could of had 7 or 8 goals in regulation. Couple got waived off. 3 or 4 break aways. Penalty shot.. They better learn to play with a lead..
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Vegas scored the fastest hat trick in the Cup finals, the Canes tied it up with the fastest three goals in Cup finals. I thought the Canes were going to win one there.
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Laviolette gets another gig in LA. He keeps getting hired and has been a crap coach for years. He totally set back the Caps franchise. I don't get why the NHL keeps recycling these guys. There have to be younger up and coming coaches that are way better.
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VGN better learn how to kill a penalty too.. Seems like every time MUST have a kill, they give one up.
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series tied at 2
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The way both these fucks give up goals.. I can't tell if they're just that skilled or the D's and G's are mid. lol
But 3 and 4 goal periods, in the SCF.. EMBARRASSING!!! :snicker:
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This is the kind of game that got Boudreau fired
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i have to admit i was pulling for carolina to win game 4 after just not quite coming back in game 3. Net minding has not been great in any game.
I just don't want Vegas to win.
Curious who Carolina starts in game 5. I'd go with the young guy. Can't imagine they won't. Anderson seems to be out of it this series.
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I can't figure out why you'd want the "rival" that knocked us out the playoffs the last 2 times, to win over the team we beat in the SCF?? :huh: I get hating them both, I do.. Just wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I rooted for Carolina to beat, ANYONE. They've eclipsed all other shit teams in the east as our most hated rival. Better just come to terms with that now.. :raised-eyebrow: :snicker:
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Carolina will never eclipse Pittsburgh in that area
:raspberry:
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well i AM a hillbilly from them tar heels from NC.
Go Canes! :raspberry:
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Carolina will never eclipse Pittsburgh in that area
:raspberry:
To me they will, unless/until Shittsburgh gets good again. :rofl:
3-1 Caines after 2 tonight.. If VGK don't win tonight, Im calling them done. Don't see them winning 2 in a row. Poor Dowder. :raspberry: :snicker:
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AJ lurking.
4-1 Canes
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well i AM a hillbilly from them tar heels from NC.
Go Canes! :raspberry:
Although....Raliegh and them Canes is city folk. My peeps from way out up in them mountain hollers in the far west end of the state
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The Golden Toast has a pretty good ring to it? Im shifting my hope to Carolina wins in Vegas, so we don't have to listen to their home crowd again. ::)
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Finally one of the goalies woke up.
Bussi with .920 save percentage last night is good. .857 the previous game not so good but a win. He was .947 in the game in came in down 4-0. allowed 1 goal on 19 shots (OT winner)
Hart as not been good: .862, .846, .879, .852, .833 is NOT a winning stat
Anderson has been worse: .783, .885, .750. I wonder if the death of his friend/mentor/agent Lemieux has gotten to him.
Vegas has let in 4+ goals every game of the final. That's crazy. that has to be record
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The Vegas Golden Toast has a pretty good ring to it? Im shifting my hope to Carolina wins in Vegas, so we don't have to listen to their home crowd. ::)
Yes I am annoyed listening to the game and the announcers are yelling the play by play, and Ray Verraro just annoys the crap out of me.
I know the stadium is incredibly loud, but you can't tell me they dont have better mics they can use that block out the background noise better. I think it is intentional to try and hype it up.
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The NHL really needs to be more prompt in getting games started. Or, just schedule them all for 15-20 minutes later.
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2 zip Hiccups after 2. Hope this ends tonight!
In other news, Dennis The Hammer pounded em' in Pocono, again this week! 3 in a row for Denny!!
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I watched the race this weekend as well. Toyota took the overall win, a corvette won the GT3 class.
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1st 24hr I've not seen a lap of, since I can remember.. :( Just doesn't do much for me anymore. Don't recognize hardly anyone.
Oh yea, North Cackalacky wins Vegas Golden Toast lost the Stanley Cup. :huh: :raised-eyebrow: :O= :rofl:
When's the draft? Who we gettin'?? That dude? No way.. TF they thinking. :snicker:
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Vegas lost. Vegas Lost.
:-|
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Yay Canes :yawn:
Really didn't want either of these teams winning it, but I will settle for Vegas NOT winning. I recorded the game and started about 90 minutes late and FFWD thru every commentator and commercial, watched the game at 2x speed until about 8 minutes into 3rd period. It was much more tolerable that way. I really just was not into this cup final at all. I didnt stay for all the after game award shenanigans
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Just saw a report that Carlson had been negotiating a 2 year deal with the Caps at $9M per year and was now looking to stay in the east for a 2 year deal at $10M per year. That's crazy money for him. I would have thought maybe some stupid team might give him 7 or so. Let's just hope the Caps don't reengage.
Also, we should be hearing something from Ovi in the next week or so.....
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Yes, that is crazy money for him. With Sandin going down for extended time, I could see the Caps talking with him, but 9 or 10 is crazy. You could get a real top tier guy in his PRIME for that kind of money (if there were any to be had).
I sure hope this is just crazy nonsense rumors like most are
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Not only no, but hell no.
Carbery has one year left on his contract, management is reportedly talking about an extension.
Tortorella wont be returning to Vegas as head coach.
Carlson has informed Anaheim he wont resign, he wants to return to the east.
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Read that Carbs and the Caps have agreed to an extension. Not sure of the details or if it's actually been signed yet though.
Torts won't be back in Vegas?? Didn't they just sign him before the playoffs started?
Carlson wanting 10m x 2 is nuts. He'd be great at around 4.5 x 2. I hope we've just moved on though and don't start entertaining dumb ass deals with old folks who aren't the GOAT.
https://twitter.com/Capitals/status/2067615785636499484
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Yes, that is crazy money for him. With Sandin going down for extended time, I could see the Caps talking with him, but 9 or 10 is crazy. You could get a real top tier guy in his PRIME for that kind of money (if there were any to be had).
I sure hope this is just crazy nonsense rumors like most are
I wonder if, with salary cap scheduled to go up significantly over the next few years, teams are suddenly going to have lots of money to spend, and UFA's are going to push for contracts even more bloated than they are already. The Carlson rumors may be an early indication of that. You might be AMAZED at some of the free agent deals signed this summer.
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You might be AMAZED at some of the free agent deals signed this summer.
No doubt, and not in a good way.
All Ive seen on the Carbery extension is its multi year. The team twit accounts have confirmed it, but zero details. Not that it really matters, teams fire coaches at will when deemed necessary.
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2026/06/18/2026-nhl-draft-order-washington-capitals-five-picks/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2026/06/18/2026-nhl-draft-order-washington-capitals-five-picks/)
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So one mock draft I saw had the Caps taking Nickita Klepov at 16 - a 6'1" forward. Says he is US and will be playing for Michigan State. His highlights look great. Good speed, passing, quick shot. Another mock draft didn't have him in the first round!
Then at 18 they had the Caps taking Oliver Suvanto - a 6'3" 209 lbs center from Finland. His highlights look pretty good - not a speed skater but hangs around the net and gets some rebounds. He looks a bit slow but another mock draft had him going at 10.
Then there is Oscar Hemming - who is a forward from Boston College and was projected from 14th to 17th. With our BC/BU players already, it wouldn't surprise me if they took him.
I just hope they keep both picks. The quality of young players has really gone up and I think any first rounder could be a really good NHL player fairly quickly.
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So one mock draft I saw had the Caps taking Nickita Klepov at 16 - a 6'1" forward. Says he is US and will be playing for Michigan State. His highlights look great. Good speed, passing, quick shot. Another mock draft didn't have him in the first round!
Then at 18 they had the Caps taking Oliver Suvanto - a 6'3" 209 lbs center from Finland. His highlights look pretty good - not a speed skater but hangs around the net and gets some rebounds. He looks a bit slow but another mock draft had him going at 10.
Then there is Oscar Hemming - who is a forward from Boston College and was projected from 14th to 17th. With our BC/BU players already, it wouldn't surprise me if they took him.
I just hope they keep both picks. The quality of young players has really gone up and I think any first rounder could be a really good NHL player fairly quickly.
1st paragraph was shrunk Beags..
Im not sure what Im wishing for in the offseason.. I don't "think" we're gonna be bad at all with what we got, though they'd all need to stay healthy. Still no "superstar" forward/center, that's not on his last legs.. Wouldn't mind them finding another TJ Oshie, but as I've said before, I think we may of cashed in that wish on Chychrun. Be nice to have a legit, youngish, superstar on the team though. Doubt it'll happen, not even sure any are available. The assets Florida gave up for Brady Tkachuk are nuts. And he's not even all that, imo.
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Ye[ - the Tkatuch deal was nuts, but there have been a couple trades where more draft picks are being thrown in than I would have expected. I think they are valuing an 1st round pick that is expected to be 25 to 30 way lower than a mid round or lower round. That might be right, but if you have good scouting those later picks can really strike gold. I just think the young kids are developing so much faster now - so I am a proponent of stockpiling picks - which is why that Caps will probably the 16th and 18th for the 12th pick!
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Right. lol I'd hope if they trade both picks for an earlier pick, it'd be for more than moving up 4 spots.. Though I don't have any idea what the talent pool is in the draft. I'll just cross my fingers as usual and hope they don't do anything crazy/stupid. 1 more week and we'll know! Still haven't heard anything official from Ovi??
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https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-acquire-jordan-kyrou-from-the-st-louis-blues (https://www.nhl.com/capitals/news/capitals-acquire-jordan-kyrou-from-the-st-louis-blues)
McMichael didnt quite blossom the way we hoped here, which means he will in St Louis. Dont know anything about Gastrin, but I know I dont like losing a first round pick for this. It better work out.
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Yup! Wish McMike well.. Hopefully he didn't just have a sophomore slump and is what he is. :snicker: Have no clue about the guy we got, other than he was hovering around a point per year, then fell off some last season.. Hope it works out!! Seems like a little arm bending could of been done to use the 18th instead of the 16th.. ::)
Hopefully it's not another PLD.. Bro is on the books for 8.125m x 5 :-X
https://twitter.com/Tarik_ElBashir/status/2069541975489966382
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Rats! I knew they would trade one of the picks. Seems like a very steep price as the 16th pick plus McMike should have been enough. Gastrin was supposedly our only good Center prospect in our system and Centers are valued. He was an early second round pick last year.
The only way I can look at this and like it is if you figure that we got Kyrou for McMike and Gastrin and for trading Carlson for a first that we used. Then it seems pretty good.
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Also - seems like we only trade with Vegas or STL.
I predict they draft Oscar Hemming with the 18th pick. He is a big boy from BC and I bet they think he can be another Tom Wilson. They must not love anybody though at 18 since they traded 16 which would have helped them get the guy they wanted. They probably think there are 5 or 6 guys at 18 that they would be happy with.
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Wow. Didnt expect that. I feel Kyrou is definitely a legit top 6 guy and McMike was a question mark there . I like McMike and he as speed to burn but he just has not performed up to our hopes. He is still fairly young but he has had his chances here. Fairly costly. It I dont think its a bad deal. You know you were going to have to give up substantial assets to get a deal done this year especially ( with the increasing cap).
McMike will probably blossom in St Louis but good in him.
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Ya - I liked McMike and he had that one stretch when he went nuts and everything was going in and we got excited that he could be a consistent 25 goal scorer - but then he regressed. I think he is just undersized and not quite fast enough to be a top 6 guy. Wish him well.
At least Kyrou has some term left and I think they were after him at the trade deadline so they got their guy. He could be another Chychrun type addition, so that would be good. I'm not happy about what we gave, but I just rationalize it by thinking that we got a free 1st rounder for Carlson which was a great deal and we just used that.
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So the latest rumor is the Caps are going after Alex Tuch from Buffalo. He is 30 years old and wants an 8 year deal for big money and it would be a sign and trade. Tuch is fine for the next 2 or 3 years, but he stunk in the playoffs this year and I hate to get older guys. If they want this guy they better not give up much - definitely not their last 1st round pick!
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Well - Alex Tuch on an 8 year deal at $10.5 AAV. Caps gave up a third round pick. Don't love this one, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I just have the long term deals to the old guys.
I have heard speculation that this is a sign that Ovi is retiring and speculation that now that they upgrade with Kyrou and Tuch, that Ovi will want to come back - so who knows!
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yea, 8 years is a bit much for me..
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2026/06/24/alex-tuch-contract-washington-capitals-sign-trade-buffalo-sabres/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2026/06/24/alex-tuch-contract-washington-capitals-sign-trade-buffalo-sabres/)
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Good grief.. We're just getting out of these obese long term contracts and now we've signed another one.. :( What are Wilson and Leonard gonna do, play the 3rd and 4th line? Leonard's gonna be 1st line caliber before the season ends, if he's not already.. He'll be looking for a deal out of here before long. :-(
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Never heard of this Tuch guy until now; what caliber player is he? Is he above average or just another guy?
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Never heard of this Tuch guy until now; what caliber player is he? Is he above average or just another guy?
Top of the line. Established 30+ goal scorer; solid defensively; big (6'4", 220) and good skater.
I mentioned a few weeks back that with the escalating salary cap, we were going to be startled at some of the free agent contracts this summer. His contract is essentially a free agent contract. Tuch was leaving Buffalo as a UFA, and this allowed them to get at least a little something (3rd round pick) for him. He signed with Buffalo BEFORE being traded - that was how he got the 8 year contract - you can go 8 years only on your own players that you are resigning. But $10.5 million AAV is still a BIG number.
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Good grief.. We're just getting out of these obese long term contracts and now we've signed another one.. :( What are Wilson and Leonard gonna do, play the 3rd and 4th line? Leonard's gonna be 1st line caliber before the season ends, if he's not already.. He'll be looking for a deal out of here before long. :-(
The Kyrou and Tuch trades are all about longer-term stability. Both are responsible defensively as well as being competent goal-scorers. And McMichael was expendable for one reason: Ilya Protas. There is a reason why LaPierre is still listed as a prospect on the Caps' site, and Ilya Protas isn't. The Caps want to field 3 dangerous lines this coming season. Strome/IlyaP/Dubois will be the top 3 canters. Kyrou/Wilson/Leonard will be the top 3 RW. Tuch/AProtas/Ovie?? will be the top 3 LW. Sourdif will be the 4C; LaPierre, Frank, and Bauvillier will be in the mix, along with possibly Cristall and Miroshnichenko. Or the Caps could easily sign another 4th liner - those guys are pretty fungible.
Now the Caps need to figure out how to get another RH defenseman, and that'll be about it. Chychryn, Hutson, and Fehervary are set on the left side; Roy and Liljegren on the right side.
The Caps tipped their hand when they brought in Hutson and IProtas last year and stuck them right in the playing rotation. They aren't going to be anywhere but in Washington next season.
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Top of the line. Established 30+ goal scorer; solid defensively; big (6'4", 220) and good skater.
I mentioned a few weeks back that with the escalating salary cap, we were going to be startled at some of the free agent contracts this summer. His contract is essentially a free agent contract. Tuch was leaving Buffalo as a UFA, and this allowed them to get at least a little something (3rd round pick) for him. He signed with Buffalo BEFORE being traded - that was how he got the 8 year contract - you can go 8 years only on your own players that you are resigning. But $10.5 million AAV is still a BIG number.
Thanks for the 411.
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Wow...again. Alex Tuch is serious top cheese. Although the length is crazy for a 30 year old. Not everyone is Ovi. I am sure the Caps know this is too long, but not that they have any control over it. Time will tell if this works for the Caps or not, but at least management is willing to take some shots. I remember YEARS of standing pat with the status quo and that brought us nothing but disappointment.
And yeah, i cant figure out if this is a sign that Ovi is retiring, or if this is a reason for him to stay one more year. I guess we will know soon enough. I just assumed he would be back. It will be a huge bummer when he does retire, even if it is time. Ovi has meant so much to hockey but more so to the Washington Capitals. It will be strange to not have him out there. He truly has been the heart and soul of this franchise for 2 decades.
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Oh well, guess we'll "find out". lol
My hope is ego and salary do not hobble us, like years past, where you were basically guaranteed minutes and line assignments based off your contract amount. Cause neither Tuch nor Kyrou are "super star" caliber players and based off their age/stats are never gonna be. Ryan Leonard is. Time will tell how long he's satisfied playing on the 3rd line and PP2.
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Kyrou is an upgrade on McMichael but I don't like giving away our draft pick on a 27 year old guy who was a -38 a few years back. We need guys who are 2 way players. As for Tuch, the deal was OK but not the 8 year deal for a 29 year old guy. This team thinks it's a few tweaks from contention. It isn't. They should be looking for a big, mobile, physical young D-man and a better backup than Lindgren. And stop giving away draft picks.
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Lapierre was traded to Pittsburgh for draft picks, a 2027 3rd round and 2028 5th round. Lappy is going to be a UFA July 1.
The Caps still have 3 UFAs. OV, Beauvillier and TvR. I would not be surprised to see TvR go.
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When he's motivated, Kyrou is the fastest skater in the league, will get you 30+ goals and 60+ points and has a great shot.
When he's not motivated, he's a 8.25m/yr 3rd liner with defensive lapses.
Won't battle out of the corner for the puck but will beat you to it.
He's a great player and I think will fit the faster pace of Washington's play than the nitty-gritty grind 'em play St Louis plays -conversely- Connor McMichael is going to excel in this system bc that's the style he brings.
As long as Kyrou performs -as he should- this is a great hockey trade. If he doesn't, this is an overpayment by Washington -but only slightly-
My .02
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Lapierre was traded to Pittsburgh for draft picks, a 2027 3rd round and 2028 5th round. Lappy is going to be a UFA July 1.
The Caps still have 3 UFAs. OV, Beauvillier and TvR. I would not be surprised to see TvR go.
I agree, Alta - I'm expecting TvR not to be around this coming season.
I think, and I think the Caps think, that Roy is a fixture on the right side, and will probably partner with Hutson a lot. He is the perfect stay-at-home defender to complement him. I think that Liljegren is the 3rd pair RHD. The other RHD position is in flux, because of Sandin's injury. Sandin had moved over from the left side when Carlson was traded and the Caps SEEMED happy with how he was playing there. So maybe the Caps are seeing the open RHD spot as a stopgap until Sandin returns - I don't know. Maybe that could argue for keeping TvR as a stopgap until Sandin returns (as opposed to getting a really legitimate, longer-term RHD to fill that spot.)
As for Wayne's comment about Kyrou's initially bad =/-: I saw a comment in the acquisition article that Kyrou had gotten Selke votes at one point, which suggests that he is considered to be a legitimately good defensive forward. I have no judgment on this matter - don't know the guy.
If I had to guess who the Caps might take with pick 18 (assuming they don't trade it away before tomorrow), I'd guess Piiparinen (sp????), a RHD. He's rated #19-20 on the draft boards, I think, and the Caps need a new RHD in the pipeline.
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I agree, Alta - I'm expecting TvR not to be around this coming season.
I think, and I think the Caps think, that Roy is a fixture on the right side, and will probably partner with Hutson a lot. He is the perfect stay-at-home defender to complement him. I think that Liljegren is the 3rd pair RHD. The other RHD position is in flux, because of Sandin's injury. Sandin had moved over from the left side when Carlson was traded and the Caps SEEMED happy with how he was playing there. So maybe the Caps are seeing the open RHD spot as a stopgap until Sandin returns - I don't know. Maybe that could argue for keeping TvR as a stopgap until Sandin returns (as opposed to getting a really legitimate, longer-term RHD to fill that spot.)
As for Wayne's comment about Kyrou's initially bad =/-: I saw a comment in the acquisition article that Kyrou had gotten Selke votes at one point, which suggests that he is considered to be a legitimately good defensive forward. I have no judgment on this matter - don't know the guy.
If I had to guess who the Caps might take with pick 18 (assuming they don't trade it away before tomorrow), I'd guess Piiparinen (sp? ??? ), a RHD. He's rated #19-20 on the draft boards, I think, and the Caps need a new RHD in the pipeline.
If it were up to me, I'd get rid of TVR and Sandin. TVR is fairly steady but nothing great. I'm sick of seeing Sandin get pushed off the puck and tossed around in our own end. Until this team realizes it needs a BIG and mobile d-man who plays physically, they're going to have problems. Two such guys would be even better.
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Lapierre was traded to Pittsburgh for draft picks, a 2027 3rd round and 2028 5th round. Lappy is going to be a UFA July 1.
The Caps still have 3 UFAs. OV, Beauvillier and TvR. I would not be surprised to see TvR go.
I don't think LaPierre can be a UFA - he isn't old enough, is he? Do you mean an RFA?
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I either misread or mistyped that. Yes, Lappy will be an RFA.
Sandin is hurt, knee injury, not expected to play until November. Hurt players have been traded before, but its exceedingly rare.
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https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/what-the-capitals-are-getting-in-alex-tuch-and-why-the-long-term-commitment-is-well-worth-it (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/what-the-capitals-are-getting-in-alex-tuch-and-why-the-long-term-commitment-is-well-worth-it)
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Chisholm traded to New Jersey for a 2027 4th round pick. He has one year left under contract. He seemed to play ok here, when he got a chance to play. Seems like its a move just to make room for Hutson.
Kampf went to Buffalo as part of the Tuch trade.
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I kind of liked Chisholm. Sorry to see him go. That may mean they intend to keep TVR - or maybe sign Carlson
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Looking forward to the draft if we keep our pick. If that big BC kid - Oscar - is there I bet they take him. Maybe it doesnt matter as they have had better luck with second and third round picks than their first rounders as they just got rid of McMike and Lappy and Miro may be next.
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Lappy being moved to be expected and not a big deal. Too bad, he just could not launch here. Hopefully he gets a shot to play in Shittsburgh FFS.
I also liked Chisholm and would have liked to see more playing time for him. I'd rather see Chisolm on the ice than TVR. I certainly hope they plan for TVR to NOT be here, but we are definitely missing a D piece.
FWIW, i do NOT wish to see them even consider bringing Carlson back here.
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Good for Chisholm! Wish him well and hope he gets some ice! Lappy too.. Good kid! Just never found his juice here.
The way I see it, Ovi's playing at least 1 more year. So they don't have the money for anything but a plug RD. And they seem to like TVR and Sandin, who will have +/- 7 months of hockey left to play when he comes back.. I won't be surprised if they sign Ovi for more than he makes now. 1 year 12m or something like that.
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Lappy being moved to be expected and not a big deal. Too bad, he just could not launch here. Hopefully he gets a shot to play in Shittsburgh FFS.
I also liked Chisholm and would have liked to see more playing time for him. I'd rather see Chisolm on the ice than TVR. I certainly hope they plan for TVR to NOT be here, but we are definitely missing a D piece.
FWIW, i do NOT wish to see them even consider bringing Carlson back here.
I saw an article that stated that Carlson has already announced he is coming back East, and his most likely landing spot is Tampa Bay, on a 2 year contract at AAV of $10 million or more.
Talk about bloated UFA contracts .....
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Good for Chisholm! Wish him well and hope he gets some ice!
The way I see it, Ovi's playing at least 1 more year. So they don't have the money for anything but a plug RD. And they seem to like TVR and Sandin, who will have +/- 7 months of hockey left to play when he comes back.. I won't be surprised if they sign Ovi for more than he makes now. 1 year 12m or something like that.
I think you may be spot on in your assessment, Mick.
As far as the defense situation, the Caps currently have 9 defensemen listed on their roster. But of them, Chisholm has already been dealt, we know McIlrath is nothing more than a spot player, Sandin is currently injured, and TvR's status is uncertain at best. If the Caps are planning to plug Sandin back in on the right side when he returns, to become the sixth usual starter, then in looking at who the Caps might sign, we have to think of that player as a stopgap who would eventually become the 7th defenseman upon Sandin's return. In that case, in looking at who the Caps might pick up, it would make sense for them to consider players who have some experience playing both sides on defense (as the Caps apparently see Sandin as being capable of). That would be useful when the player slides into the #7 spot. I don't know who among available players might fit that description.
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Id really like to see them get a rough and tumble BIG defensemen to add to this core. He doesn't need to be a flashy puck moving goal scorer, he needs to be able to push his weight around and clear the crease. Having just ONE of those guys on the ice would be nice now and then. A Joe Reekie or John Erskine type :wackysmile: I know those guys are dinosaurs but someone more of that ilk
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Round one of the draft starts tonight at 7pm eastern. Caps pick 18th, which will probably be around 10:00
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Last mock draft had the Caps taking Nikita Klepov at 18 but there are some scouts really high on him and he will probably be gone. They had Oscar Hemming at 17 and he is a 64 forward out of BC. Thats my guess as they obviously have the BC connection with Leno.
Regarding Ovi, I have no idea where they stand with the cap after Tuch and Kyrou. Dropping off Carlsons contract covers a lot of that. I also think Ovi is coming back as I think he would have told them before the draft if he wasnt coming. Maybe he gives them a team/friendly deal with the condition that they use it to beef up the team even more. Thats probably unrealistic as it will be a pride thing.
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Well, they missed Klepov and Herman and got a big center from Finland - Suvanto. Supposed to be defensive and good at faceoffs. The ESPN analysts were more favorable than the NahL channel guys who said maybe a third-liner.
One interesting comment about the Caps was that they may be going after Boone Jenner in free agency. Always loved that guy but we dont need another long term deal to an old guy.
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Big boy! They said he has some Wilson in him! lol There'll come a time in the not to distant future where we could use a big, tough 3 or 4C.. Hope he can win draws!!
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Big boy! They said he has some Wilson in him! lol There'll come a time in the not to distant future where we could use a big, tough 3 or 4C.. Hope he can win draws!!
Any draft pick is a selection about potential, because (except for the very most outstanding talents) you have to project what you could be getting years down the line.
Suvanto doesn't turn 18 until September - he is one of the youngest players in the draft. His reputation right now is that he is a good skater for his size, his defensive game is great, and he's supposed to be good at face-offs. He'll work hard to protect the puck along the walls. But he is not imaginative offensively - he plays the game mechanically and simply. And we all know that the really high draft choices among centers are the ones who drive offense. But this choice is the opposite of that, and exactly what you are describing, Mick. We've agonized over the Caps not being able to protect leads late, and not being able to win IMPORTANT face-offs in critical situations. This guy was drafted to be a bottom-line center, but the guy you want on the ice at the end of a tight game to try to close it out. Like all non-franchise-player draftees, we'll see how it pans out over time. But that is what the point of this selection was.
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Now hear me out.
I've now figured out who I want to fill out the Caps' defense on the right side.
Radko Gudas.
Yes, i know he's 36 years old. But he's a defensive stalwart, still plays a rough-&-tumble game, and is known for his penalty killing. Sign him to a 2-3 year contract, maybe eat the last year. But as a stopgap for now, and to help mentor and protect Hutson, you could do worse. Chychryn and Hutson can provide the offense on defense; we need someone to stay at home and protect the goal.
As for the salary cap space, it stands at $14.325 million right now - but that doesn't count a $4.6 million LTIR exemption for Sandin. Of course, when Sandin returns someone will need to be jettisoned to make room. Or Sandin could be traded away for draft picks or something.
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Id really like to see them get a rough and tumble BIG defensemen to add to this core. He doesn't need to be a flashy puck moving goal scorer, he needs to be able to push his weight around and clear the crease. Having just ONE of those guys on the ice would be nice now and then. A Joe Reekie or John Erskine type :wackysmile: I know those guys are dinosaurs but someone more of that ilk
Brooks Orpik. :snicker:
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Carolina traded for the rights to Carlson. Told you guys we need to hate them even more than Shittsburgh.. :raised-eyebrow:
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So they gave up a prospect (5th round 2021 defenseman) and pick 192 this year just to have the rights to negotiate with Carlson before July 1st. YOu woulda thought that Carolina would have seen enough of Carlson to stay away. Hope they sign him to a 6 year $60 million deal!
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As long as the Caps dont resign Carlson Im fine.
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Yea, I can't really get my head around anyone entertaining a 36yo Carlson @ 10m for multiple years.. Much less giving up a prospect + a pick to get the chance. Makes no sense to me but, as Alta said, as long as it's not here..
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We have the comfort of knowing that, as long as Ovie's future is up in the air, Carlson CAN'T sign here. The cap room isn't there, given what Carlson is expecting. Unless Ovie is willing to settle for $3 million or something, which I don't think is happening.
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Carlson has to be signing with Carolina. I don't think they would have done that deal unless they had a strong indication they could get a deal done and Carlson would be crazy not to sign with them. I would love it as the Caps would get to toast him plenty next year.
I'll bet Ovi has told Caps management what he is doing and they are just keeping it quiet before a big announcement.
I think we got screwed in the draft. The big guy from BC, Hemming, got taken a few picks earlier, then LA traded to jump ahead of us to take Belchitz who was a 6'5" forward that can play. He was projected to go in the top 10 by a lot of people. Hopefully he turns out to be a big rig that can't actually play.
If nothing else, next yeat is going to be fun to watch to see what happens. The team is definitely way better with Kyrou and Tuch. I think Hutson is going to make a big difference and Leno is going to be better and better. Then we have Lil Pro and maybe Cristall coming. Could be good!
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Beagle, I don't know that we really got fouled up in the draft. From what I saw of pre-draft speculation, the Caps' real need in their prospect pipeline at this point is centers, and Suvanto was the next logical choice at that position.
At this point, we already have a huge stable of big forwards, especially if Ovie returns: him, AProtas, IProtas, Wilson, Tuch, PLDuBois. In today's game, you really need smaller, shifty forwards to balance that out. For that matter, Suvanto is the biggest of the top center candidates.
I personally like the selection of Suvanto, because he fills a glaring need for the organization: A strong defensive center who is good at face-offs and puck possession. Plus, a guy like that, who already has the defensive chops, is less likely to flame out before he gets to the NHL, or never really fulfill the role he is intended for. [Look at the number of players, even in Round 1, who are described as having offensive chops, but need to pick up the defensive side of the game.] He probably will be no more than a 3C or 4C, but it is very likely that he will make it in that role. And, assuming he can fulfill those duties at the NHL level, he is the kind of guy you want on the ice at the end of the game to protect a lead. That has VALUE in a league where the competition and the scores are so close.
He is NOT a glamorous first round selection. But he is important.
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BlackIce - good analysis. I agree. I really thought they would end up with the big forward from BC - seemed like that was meant to be.
Seems like we have had better luck with 2nd and third round picks lately. Hutson, Lil Pro and hopefully Cristal will be great.
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BlackIce - good analysis. I agree. I really thought they would end up with the big forward from BC - seemed like that was meant to be.
Seems like we have had better luck with 2nd and third round picks lately. Hutson, Lil Pro and hopefully Cristal will be great.
And Big Pro was selected at the end of the 3rd round as well.
It's amazing, with the way he has turned out, that IPro also lasted until the 3rd round.
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Looks like Malynstyn is resigning in Buffalo for 6 years at $3M per year. I always liked that guy and was bummed when we traded him - but I think we got Hutson with that draft pick we got. Wonder if the Caps thought about trying for him as a UFA? I guess he didn't get to UFA though.
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Beagle, I wasn't particularly surprised at the selection of Suvanto -- I saw him going to the Caps with one of their two picks in some mock drafts.
What I thought was interesting was when the Caps gave away one of their draft picks to move up 11 spots to get Tyus Sparks in round 4. I always picture the middle and lower rounds of the draft as teams selecting from a bunch of mostly-indistinguishable, lesser-appreciated prospects, hoping to catch the guy who develops beyond what anyone can envision (or he would have been picked higher). That the Caps would relinquish a pick in a draft where they didn't have many to begin with in order to get this guy says to me that they consider him some kind of outlier at that point. For that reason, I'll be interested in seeing what he does next year and beyond. Can we hope for another IPro - where he blows up in Juniors the year after he is drafted, and in Hershey the year after that?
I can understand teams moving up in the first round to get a player they covet among what is considered to be the top talent. But in round 4?
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I can't believe Johhny Q is expecting $10m/year at his age. I think he started showing decline not only last year but the year before. He still has some value, but not $10m/yr kind of value.
I would hope/expect the Caps have some idea of what Ovie is planning. That seems only the right thing to do for your team which you have been such a huge part for your whole career.
Caps have 17m in cap space left, with neither Duhame or TVR signed - OR Hutson in that figure. That does not leave much for FA market if Ovi is coming back.
You could get Duhame or his replacement for 2m/year, and I assume Hutson ELC is less than 1m, so that leaves 14m, and we absolutely need a Dman. We have 6d counting Hudson and Lindjgren. It would be nice to find a stable D to play with Hudson. Funny BlackIce mentioned Radko Gudas...i actually thought of him as well , but didnt know he was FA....AND he is a RD. Honestly, I'd rather take a shot at Gudas for $3-4m per year than TVR. $4 mill leaves us 10m for OVi....and i guess you can play with the LTIR relief of Sandin's cap relief (4.6m/yr)
I can't see the Caps making another big splash in FA market if Ovi is returning...they just don't have the cap space
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Hutson has two years remaining on his entry level contract, Sourdif and Leonard have one year remaining each. All at under $1M per.
When OV signed his last extension he took a pay cut. He had been making $10M per forever but his last contract was at $9.5M. Not a real significant amount, but the cap was also going up for all but 3-4 years of his career. His percentage of team salary has gone way down since 2005. It would appear he understands what the team needs and has accommodated that, slightly. I wouldnt be surprised to see a one or two year deal at $8ish.
The bigger concern is the significant pay raises Sourdif, Leonard and Hutson are going to get in one and two years.
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Well - Gudas was traded to Florida so they are signing him. I bet the Caps bring back TVR - hopefully on just a one year deal. Not sure what they will do with Duhaime. May not be a roster spot for him, but he was a heart and soul guy that was loved in the lockerroom.
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Now that Gudas is gone, how about signing Trouba who will be a free agent? I love that guy! He keeps guys on their toes, or they end up looking at the rafters. I have no idea what the money side would be.
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Two video analysis of Oliver Suvanto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbkLoRjyue0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbkLoRjyue0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67oAfTDbRBA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67oAfTDbRBA)
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got one to work, not sure why I cant fix both
got it :)
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TvR signed a two year deal with Pittsburgh at $2M per. That leaves Duhaime and OV unsigned and more than enough room for Hutson on D, who is technically listed in Hershey.
Caps also let Hershey forward Ryan Hofer and goalies Garin Bjorklund and Jesper Vikman walk as free agents. Hofer and Bjorklund were 2022 and 2020 draft picks. Vikman we got from Vegas as part of the Dowd trade.
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Now that Gudas is gone, how about signing Trouba who will be a free agent? I love that guy! He keeps guys on their toes, or they end up looking at the rafters. I have no idea what the money side would be.
Trouba must really like California. He signed with San Jose for 4 years at $8.25M per.
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Duhaime signed with Toronto, 3 years at $2.6M per.
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I just don't see how they have money left for Ovi. Starting to doubt he's coming back. They now only have 3.56m left in cap space..
Boone Jenner (33yo) C 5.75m x 4
Vincent Desharnais (30yo) RD 4.2m x 4
Team should be fun to watch either way. Just gonna really miss seeing the Gr8 out there, if he retires. :(
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Caps signed 33 yr old UFA Boone Jenner to a 4 year deal at $5.75M per. Hes listed as a center/left wing.
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They now only have 3.56m left in cap space..
This says they have $7M in cap space. Still a little thin for an OV contract.
https://capwages.com/teams/washington_capitals (https://capwages.com/teams/washington_capitals)
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Another interesting twist here is Jenner was the captain in Columbus the last few years. If OV doesnt come back everyone here assumed Wilson would get the C.
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I trust Sammi Silber over that website..
But, here is some encouraging news, I guess.
https://twitter.com/sammisilber/status/2072418867725353355
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Sammi has gotten better, but this kind of reporting is a full time job. I dont think she fully understands that.
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Caps singed a couple more guys at less than $1M per, it appears to fill a couple holes in Hershey.
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Ive always loved Boone Jenner but I dont love the contract at his age. I dont think the Caps are viewed as a top destination and they have to give an extra year or two to the better free agents to get them. Should be good for the next two years though. Willy will still be the Captain.
I dont know much about the defenseman they signed but I thought they would just pick up a good bench guy that could fill in for a while. Hope he is physical.
Saw that Pittsburg signed TVR. They just love our players!
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Caps needed an extra D man to start the season at a minimum. If reports are accurate Sandin will be on LTIR until November.
Carlson signs a 2 year for $8.5M per in Tampa
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Yea, who knows what the fuck they're doing.. But Im here for it!
Don't really like the old dudes tbh.. Thought we were getting younger and faster, but these two aint either.
Heard the RD is big, physical, clears crease, blocks shots, pk, etc.. They mention everything except if he can skate. Someone said he was a pylon. lol
Good for Carly!! Screw the Lightning too, but double screw the Hurricanes!!
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i dont mind if the big RD is a somewhat of a pylon ....we needed 1 guy capable of clearing the crease. we have enough figure skaters back there. I dont think 4 yrs at 4m is bad for a 30 year old RD.... (shittsburgh is paying 4m per for a 34 year old TVR)
Glad to see TVR gone...2 years for 4m is more than i would have paid to keep him.
Also JC gets only 2 year deal at 8.5. Again more than i would pay, but only two years and less than what was expected. Wonder what Carolina offered him. He must not have gotten any real great offers.
good for Duhaime getting a deal.
the other pickups look like utility fill in guys. Needed a 4th liner for Duhaimes spot. Where will Jenner play? Can he win a faceoff?
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Boy - Desharnais is a big rig! I think Big Macs time with the Caps is over - maybe he retired?
This team has gotten a lot tougher to play against and could be really good. We should score a lot more not only because of Tuch and kyrou but our D with Chicky and Hutson will be very aggressive.
If you cap it off with another great year from LT, this team could challenge anybody in the playoffs.
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To respond to Mick's and Rich's posts ......
I saw an article that mentioned that Descharnais was a good skater, but that may have been a Caps article gilding the lily.
He apparently plays a physical game, so he is what is wanted that way. BUT the article said that his 18 minutes and change average TOI last season was the most average minutes he has played, so he wasn't playing absolutely top pairing minutes, to be sure. The article also suggested that the Caps might see him as a natural partner/protector for Hutson, which makes some sense. His average TOI per game on the PK last year was among the top defensemen in the league, so he is I guess seen as a mainstay in that department.
As for Jenner, his help will be in the clubhouse as well as on the ice, and specifically for face-offs - he has consistently been over 50% for the last decade. THAT will be a help. He feels like a bridge to if/when Suvanto is ready.
Regardless of what you think of the quality of the Caps' acquisitions over the past few days, they clearly aimed to address the weak points in the team's performance last year. None of this "hoping for regression to the mean," or anything like that. Here's our weaknesses, and these guys (for other clubs) were good in those areas, so let's get them. Maybe a couple of the guys were older than one might like, but you have to balance capability and availability for acquisition against optimum age when choosing who to acquire.
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So, what do our D pairs look like. And who gets moved off the ice/roster when Sandin can skate again?
I guess if Ovi returns, Frank is our bench/pressbox warmer for forwards?
They should look to get something in return for Miro, imo.. Not sure they'd get much, but he seems to be buried in Hershey for the foreseeable future. Cristall is facing a similar battle.
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Also JC gets only 2 year deal at 8.5. Again more than i would pay, but only two years and less than what was expected. Wonder what Carolina offered him. He must not have gotten any real great offers.
Carlson limiting his possibilities to the east coast is what that contract is, mostly. The rest is the inevitable march of time that hes not prepared to accept.
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OV signs 1yr 1mil, 3.25 signing bonus and if he plays 10 games makes another 4.25
https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/alex-ovechkin-re-signs-capitals-nhl-all-time-goals-leader/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/alex-ovechkin-re-signs-capitals-nhl-all-time-goals-leader/)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/capitals/2026/07/02/capitals-alex-ovechkin-contract-nhl-free-agency-washington/90606528007/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/capitals/2026/07/02/capitals-alex-ovechkin-contract-nhl-free-agency-washington/90606528007/)
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/alex-ovechkin-returning-22nd-nhl-164226025.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKI5F0mWwP6_I9j8AnqQPwSxzC6wzdOGuidRnXsAXWje2CFQOivud7w4OocBnJe4pVH71r_Vl_Wls9sVggq0mmfFwi5f-seU83eXTNkIyIq55i1KkqsKOrcJ_pfPofMKSgE470GG4Ty-vYg-dqi_hzNl3oKBnU2t8SfuRgeDRQ48 (https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/alex-ovechkin-returning-22nd-nhl-164226025.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKI5F0mWwP6_I9j8AnqQPwSxzC6wzdOGuidRnXsAXWje2CFQOivud7w4OocBnJe4pVH71r_Vl_Wls9sVggq0mmfFwi5f-seU83eXTNkIyIq55i1KkqsKOrcJ_pfPofMKSgE470GG4Ty-vYg-dqi_hzNl3oKBnU2t8SfuRgeDRQ48)
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So, one year for $8.5M.
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That's kinda sad The GOAT got the same $ as Carlson.. Organization should of had more class than that and bumped him up to 10m+ via bonuses..
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Honestly I am glad to see ovie sign for 1 year. I agree 8.5 is low for him, but not sure what he discussed with the team so maybe he doesnt care. I agree the Caps appeared to try and address several items they were missing so overall a pretty good off season. Team could be exciting to watch. definitely improved our scoring possibilities with TUch and Kyrou, and i like the effort of the moves on D, addressing some issues there as well.
looks like a better roster than what we had last year. Thompson will be key for sure.
I love that they let TVR walk, and did NOT sign JC back to the squad.
We need PLD and big pro to be difference makers again. would love to see Lil Pro just continue to improve and have success at the NHL level as well.
Go Caps
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I mean on paper, I don't think anyone did more this offseason to improve, than us? And I already thought if we'd of gotten in, we could play with anyone that made it last year. If LT stays on point, it should be a fun season!
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Honestly I am glad to see ovie sign for 1 year. I agree 8.5 is low for him, but not sure what he discussed with the team so maybe he doesnt care. I agree the Caps appeared to try and address several items they were missing so overall a pretty good off season. Team could be exciting to watch. definitely improved our scoring possibilities with TUch and Kyrou, and i like the effort of the moves on D, addressing some issues there as well.
looks like a better roster than what we had last year. Thompson will be key for sure.
I love that they let TVR walk, and did NOT sign JC back to the squad.
We need PLD and big pro to be difference makers again. would love to see Lil Pro just continue to improve and have success at the NHL level as well.
Go Caps
Rich, with regard to IPro, I suspect the Caps secretly think they have a huge cornerstone player on their hands. Think about his circumstances: He was brought up from Hershey with 4 games left in the regular season, in a situation where the Caps needed to win out to have a chance at the playoffs - and was immediately inserted as the center between his brother and Wilson -- arguably the 2C position. No moving PLD up and making IPro a lower line center.
IF you believe Strome, PLD, IPro, and Sourdif are the centers, the wings are Tuch, Kyrou, APro, Wilson, Ovie, Leonard, and Jenner as the top 7 of 8. Alternatively, if you slot Jenner at center, Sourdif is moved to the wing. That leaves Beauvillier, Frank, Miroshnichenko, and Cristall battling for the #8 wing in the top 20, plus one or two extras. Last season the Caps went with 13 forwards and 8 d-men, but they could go 14/7 this season, especially until Sandin returns.
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Yes Im curious what they do with the lines. I hope Leonard does not get put on the fourth line, would be a waste. I could see Ovie on a third line, reduced playing time and situations. Adding Tuchs big body is nice - We have some big boys on our team. Love we have 1 big D-man as well. Not that chicky is small. We should be a tough team to play against. Wilson Dubois Pro, Tuch, Ovi, Pro
.all big bodies and reach thats hard to battle against.
I am little bit excited about this team for a change. I am always looking forward to new season, but if it all works, we could make some real noise
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So I dont think the Caps need to have the number one line, etc
I think they can put out four strong lines that are pretty equal and spread out the ice time. It would be good if they struck a deal with Ovi to take some games off this year to keep him fresher - maybe the second game iof back to backs and a few more. That would also let them play another forward that deserved to be in the znhL and develop them some more.
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We have some big boys on our team. Love we have 1 big D-man as well.
https://twitter.com/dhockey13/status/2073111531647328529
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Well, the other shoe has now dropped regarding the new and upcoming increases in the salary cap, with the Flyers' attempted poaching of Leo Carlsson. Not only is this a tough decision for Anaheim in isolation, it sets a new, $18 million AAV floor for top talent, which will cascade throughout the league over the next few years as a comp when other top-shelf players reach free agent status.
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Beags I agree about the lines and Ovi. I wonder how they utilize him considering for maybe the first time, we have so much more depth, there is a reason NOT for him to play so many minutes - not needed him to lead in goals, etc. I think Carbs did pretty well limiting, isolating his time, defensive starts etc. I hope/expect they will continue to limit him this year further. Hope they can walk that line without hurting his manhood. Glad he is back, but don't see the need to give him too much ice time.
Curious cuz IF they put him with Strome and Tuch, that will give him more minutes that he needs. GUess we see how it plays out.
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Beags I agree about the lines and Ovi. I wonder how they utilize him considering for maybe the first time, we have so much more depth, there is a reason NOT for him to play so many minutes - not needed him to lead in goals, etc. I think Carbs did pretty well limiting, isolating his time, defensive starts etc. I hope/expect they will continue to limit him this year further. Hope they can walk that line without hurting his manhood. Glad he is back, but don't see the need to give him too much ice time.
Curious cuz IF they put him with Strome and Tuch, that will give him more minutes that he needs. GUess we see how it plays out.
The other thing about this is yes it is a huge $18.5M contract but I guarantee you that players agents are comping it as more than that - because it will cost the Flyers 4 first round picks!! They will argue that the value of each fist round pick is another $4 to $5M - so the contract is really about a $23M per year deal! Philly really changed the market dramatically. Can't imagine other GMs are happy.
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Caps bring in another Dman..
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2026/07/05/jacob-macdonald-contract-washington-capitals-hershey-bears-one-year/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2026/07/05/jacob-macdonald-contract-washington-capitals-hershey-bears-one-year/)
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Longer season this year, with a shorter preseason. The entire schedule is going to announced in a week, but it will take two more months before the Caps post it on their website..
https://media.nhl.com/public/news/19973 (https://media.nhl.com/public/news/19973)
NEW YORK (July 7, 2026) The National Hockey League (NHL) today detailed plans for announcing the 2026-27 season schedule.
On Wednesday, July 15, the League will unveil opening night matchups, which will be broadcast exclusively on ESPN in the U.S. and on Sportsnet in Canada. The announcement will be made during the day, prior to the 2026 ESPY Awards (8 p.m. ET, ABC), that will feature several NHL nominees, including the 2026 Olympic Gold Medal-winning USAs Mens Ice Hockey team for Best Team. Wednesdays announcement will also detail the Leagues 2026-27 signature events.
The following day, on Thursday, July 16, the complete 2026-27 NHL regular-season schedule is set to be announced at 1 p.m. ET. Coming off the 2025-26 season that saw record-breaking viewership and attendance, the 2026-27 regular-season schedule will feature 1,344 games 84 games per team which includes two additional divisional games per team.
(7/7/2026)
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well adding 2 more games...means 2 more back to backs after travel for the Caps, cuz the NHL always hoes them on the schedule whenever they can. Guess the league has to recoup some $$$ after raising the cap.
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I've been expecting the schedule expansion to 84 games for awhile - it only makes sense.
The 82 game schedule had each team in a division playing each of the 8 teams in the other Division in their Conference 3 times each - 2 home and 1 away against 4 teams; 1 home and 2 away against the other 4. That accounts for 24 games. Teams then played 2 games - 1 home, 1 away - against each of the 16 teams in the other Conference, accounting for 32 games.
So now 56 games are accounted for, leaving 26 against the other 7 teams in the Division. That's 4 games against each Division rival - EXCEPT that you're two games short in an 82 game schedule, so the NHL had to select two Divisional opponents each year that a team would only play 3 times.
Increasing the schedule to 84 games creates perfect balance, because the two added games are Division games, allowing a team to play each of its Division rivals 4 times per year.
Adding the two games to the schedule doesn't have to add to schedule compression if the two games are removed from the exhibition schedule. It just means that the season starts marginally earlier and is slightly more stressful, since preseason games are just exhibition and a chance for young players/players on the bubble to impress. If there is any player on the Caps that this may hurt, it's Cristall, because he'll have less chance to impress and claim a spot on the opening roster. The team also might be hurt a little, because Carbery is going to have to experiment with line combos with the new players on the roster.
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I'm down for the season starting early! Sign me up.
Been hearing Cristall could use another year in Hershey? Don't see a roster spot for him this year anyway, unless it's to wear suits and watch. Or they still have moves to make.
Ovi (or Anastasia) said 1, maybe 2 more years.. What if he's a handful shy of 1000 after that? :raspberry: :uh-huh: :snicker:
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Yes with this lineup, I'd expect Cristall is left out. I too am excited for the season start. I like the moves they have made to improve the team. Hope they all work out well, and we have a real contender. Just never know how it plays out.
I don't see Ovi staying for 3 years. He has the record, does it matter if its 980 or 1005 really? I think this is his last year unless the team does really well, yet falls just short in the playoffs, then maybe he'd stay 1 more (if he had a good season). Another legit shot at a CUP is about the only reason i could see him staying.
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I dunno.. 1 more year was all we heard until lately, then it became "maybe 2". lol If he's like 7 goals shy of 1k after 2 years, I could definitely see him coming back for a 3rd.. I could also see him scoring 10 goals next year and calling it quits. Who knows. But, now that the "maybe 2" is out there, will he continue to rebuff any handshake lines at the end of games (arena's) where he could possibly not be back? I guess we'll have to see what kind of shape he shows up in and if he's lost any more steps as the season goes on. My wish is he takes the offseason more serious than ever and shows up lean and mean, though I doubt that's gonna happen. Ovi gonna Ovi.
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The Redskins are going to retire Riggins jersey this fall.
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The Redskins are going to retire Riggins jersey this fall.
Nice. one of my employees is a sports memorabilia nut (as of recently) and is going to a sports memorabilia show this weekend. he is using a spare office next door to mine right now and he has about 300 signed jerseys. He has a signed Riggo jersey, signed Riggo card, and a signed Riggo mini-helmet. Might have to tell him to hold that stuff for a while. He also has a weird combo jersey that has all three Skins SuperBowl MVP's signatures; Rypien, Doug Williams, and Riggins
He has a signed Bo Jackson Jersey thats pretty nice.
He has a framed Ovi Jersey and signed puck.....Told him he can leave that here as long as he wants....i will even hang it on the wall and display it for him :-).
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He has a framed Ovi Jersey and signed puck.....Told him he can leave that here as long as he wants....i will even hang it on the wall and display it for him :-).
Thats awfully generous of you.
:snicker:
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He gave me a signed Adam Oates Jersey, and a signed Olaf Kolzig pic holding the Cup...
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Imma have to report you to HR.. :snicker:
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I understand giving the Oates jersey away. Its worthless. Kolzig memorabilia does have some value.
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Ha!
The two biggest former Blues players to play for the Caps wore 77 .... i never put any thought into that until now
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I liked Oates when he played for us...with Bondra. Think his coaching here pretty much soured any good will he may have earned with the fans though.
I was just reading about him - he was an undrafted player - turned out to have good success, but man he bounced around a lot. He signed a contract with at least 3 clubs then demanded it be renegotiated part way through the term for more money.
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He was an ass as a player, he was a dumb ass as a coach.
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How about Peter Bondra....
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Aww, that's nice right thar!! I got one of those when I was a kid, in like 78' at Cap Center. That was when I realized the game pucks are frozen solid before use. Very cool! Unfortunately it didn't say Peter Bondra 1st goal on it.. :raspberry:
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Bondra was probably my first all time favorite Cap. Well...Hunter was first, then Bondra probably surpassed him on my list. I never named a dog after Bondra, but I did have a dog named Hunter (named after #32) and a cat named Gretzky. The cat was almost named Bonzai, but the wife didn't like it.
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Rod Langway would like a word
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Good Lawd!! NHL done gone crazy!! lol I guess they're taking a step in salary, across the board.. Good for them! Unfortunately, it probably won't be long before ticket / stream prices jump again as well.
6 x 6.75m
https://twitter.com/StLouisBlues/status/2077857092342268406 (https://twitter.com/StLouisBlues/status/2077857092342268406)
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A 6-year contract is eminently reasonable for someone of McMichael's age.
Now, what is the AAV?? That's the big question.
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6 years at $6.75M per
Thats about a $4.75M raise. Not something I would have agreed to as management.
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6 years at $6.75M per
Thats about a $4.75M raise. Not something I would have agreed to as management.
Yeah, I just looked it up. Gulp!!! I guess $6.75 million doesn't buy what it used to.
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Guys like Wilson are probably like WTF?? lol
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A long term contract gives you job security. It also locks you in at your pay rate for the duration. Willy isnt that under paid at $6.5M per. That McMike contract is just stupid. Maybe he ends up earning it, but based on his performance here hes overpaid by about $3M.
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Rod Langway would like a word
Haha. I loved Langway but he was mostly before my time. I aint as old as that ole Redneck
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Langway? He still had milk on his lips! My 1st "favorite" Capital (that I remember anyway) was Dennis Maruk :raspberry: :snicker: I know you youngins remember that chant "Maruuuuuuuuuk" :uh-huh: lol
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The only chant I remember from those days is Hextal
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"A major turn of events are confirmed in Alex Ovechkin's retirement and the exact details are released"
https://www.markerzone.com/news/index.php?no=597399
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Saw a pic of Ovi at the World Cup finale.. So much for hoping he'd take the offseason serious and show up lean.. :hopslam:
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He couldve played another 5 productive seasons if he took the offseason seriously during his career instead of relying on natural talent.
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/ovechkin-says-he-was-worried-there-wouldnt-be-enough-space-for-him-to-return-to-capitals-before-signing-one-year-extension (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/ovechkin-says-he-was-worried-there-wouldnt-be-enough-space-for-him-to-return-to-capitals-before-signing-one-year-extension)
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He couldve played another 5 productive seasons if he took the offseason seriously during his career instead of relying on natural talent.
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/ovechkin-says-he-was-worried-there-wouldnt-be-enough-space-for-him-to-return-to-capitals-before-signing-one-year-extension (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/latest-news/ovechkin-says-he-was-worried-there-wouldnt-be-enough-space-for-him-to-return-to-capitals-before-signing-one-year-extension)
Uh ..... I think it's rather risky to claim that a hockey player could maintain productivity into his mid-to-late-40's at an NHL level. There have been a few guys able to do that, but it's the exception that proves the rule. Frankly, I'm amazed that he has been able to maintain the level of production he has to this point, given that he has played 21 HARD seasons, missing very few games, playing huge minutes, and for most of his career playing a very tough style of play.
Ovechkin at this point is an extreme example of a 100-foot hockey player, to the extent that he was virtually excluded from defensive zone face-offs this past season. This creates issues for the coach, for if Ovechkin's line is up but play shifts to the defensive zone, the coach has to juggle and get someone else out in his place if he can't be trusted in the d-zone. This is no criticism of him, but the outcome of two decades of wear and tear. And I don't know that better off-season conditioning would create a different Ovechkin at this point. Would it make him faster, quicker laterally, more motivated to stick with his man or cover his assigned territory off the puck in the d-zone rather than hang around waiting for a breakout?
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I think Ovi shed the Dzone liability tag years and years ago. It's his recent inability to skate (which imo would be much better if he dropped 20-30lbs) that hampers his defensive efforts these days.
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I would agree that size is important for a deep playoff run. But they also need to be quick, and that is whats been lacking since 2018.
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2026/07/22/washington-capitals-heaviest-team-nhl-2026-27-season/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2026/07/22/washington-capitals-heaviest-team-nhl-2026-27-season/)
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We do have some quickness with Kyrou and a couple others and I think one thing that will emerge is the quickness and offensive aggressiveness of our defense. I think they are going to turn Chychrin and Hutson loose! Also when Sandin comes back, they have 3 very good skating defensemen. The impact of Hutson could be huge and Chicky could really have a great year.
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Let's hope it all works :cross:
It will be nice to actually have some other assets in place for Hudson and Chicky to pass the puck to. They can be an offensive threat on their own, but actually having multiple options to pass to will be a nice benefit. I am excited about this upcoming season. Sure appears we have the best assets, talent and deep balance that we've had overall in quite some time. I can't imagine we will be an easy team to play against, with good size, some good talent, and all lines creating some sort of real challenge to face. If we can get our PP really firing, that would be excellent as well.
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Yea, the one primary issue this last season was the power play. If it was producing at or above the league average this team wouldve been in the playoffs.
Caps finished the season at #25 out of 32. The PP has been lacking for several seasons now. But they still rank #4 overall since 05-06, the OV era.
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I like our moves for the most part and think adding all the size was vital. I'm excited to see how it all comes together. We should have vastly more up front depth now. I would even like to see us add another defenseman if the right guy was available. I'm also not sold on Lindgren as the backup anymore. He was pretty dreadful last season.
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https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2026/07/30/joe-beninati-craig-laughlin-silver-circle-broadcasting-honor-capitals-games/ (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2026/07/30/joe-beninati-craig-laughlin-silver-circle-broadcasting-honor-capitals-games/)
The longtime Monumental Sports Network broadcasters were named 2026 Silver Circle honorees by the National Capital Chesapeake Bay Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences on Thursday. The honor recognizes television professionals who have spent at least 25 years in the industry while making significant contributions to broadcasting and their communities.
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https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/players/while-capitals-stressed-size-this-summer-they-havent-forgotten-about-speed (https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washington-capitals/players/while-capitals-stressed-size-this-summer-they-havent-forgotten-about-speed)
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SO BORED
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Well, it's obvious from rich's latest post that this thread has run its course. So there is only one thing to do.
Start the '26 - '27 boredom thread.