Guns and Blowin Shit Up!

[alta]

Yea, it was easy to change out the 9mm assembly too.. I've had all my guns apart but I'd never even consider trying to "tune" up a revolver. It was a long time ago, but iirc it was just a spring and firing pin swap. Made it ammo sensitive. I put it back to stock. But once a gun misfires for any reason, I healthy scratch it from the CCW roster. Plus it gives ya another excuse to buy a new gun! 

If you put the trigger back to stock and prove its reliability at the range I would rely on it. I've got a revolver I bought used that was acting up. Every once in awhile the pawl wouldn't lock the cylinder in firing position. I had a smith look at it. He couldn't duplicate what was happening to me. So I took it apart. A spring was gummed up, but I had to completely disassemble it to get at that one spring, which explains why it was gummed up. It's been flawless since, and I'd trust my life with it if need be.


Very few people will admit online how much of what they own. Liberals have proven to target people that do out of spite. There've actually been a few people killed because cops were called on an innocent person. The term is swatting.


That and democrats have proven they can't be trusted.

[Mickstix]

If you put the trigger back to stock and prove its reliability at the range I would rely on it.

I would too, if I had to. Gun is too big to comfortable CCW anyway. Like I said, it was a good excuse to spend some more money! You ever removed/installed the rebound & rebound slide spring in a Smith & Wesson revolver? That's always fun! 

   Is that too personal of a question?

Couple years ago I wouldn't of gave a shit. These days ya never know. As far as this thread is concerned, I own 1. 

[alta]

I would too, if I had to. Gun is too big to comfortable CCW anyway. Like I said, it was a good excuse to spend some more money! You ever removed/installed the rebound & rebound slide spring in a Smith & Wesson revolver? That's always fun! 

Yep, the one I just described with the gummed up spring was a smith, .357, 7 shot

[Mickstix]

Yep, the one I just described with the gummed up spring was a smith, .357, 7 shot

Cool! Luckily when I first got into guns I had an old one to tinker with. Learned real quick you need the right tools if you're gonna open them things up!

[Chaos43]

    Sounds like everyone down there is scared and on edge.
I have just recently got in contact with an old friend of my that lives in Colorado. He says everyone is on edge there and you have to be careful what you say around certain people. For political reasons.
     

[alta]

We aren't on edge and scared. We are highly concerned, and oddly enough, it's the violent left in this country that everyone is concerned with.

[Chaos43]

We aren't on edge and scared. We are highly concerned, and oddly enough, it's the violent left in this country that everyone is concerned with.

    Yes concerned is probably a better word. And yes my friend says the same thing.
Glad we aren't dealing with that stuff here. But we have our own problems.
    And your new president didn't get off to a very good start in relations with Canada.

[richkrt99]

    Yes concerned is probably a better word. And yes my friend says the same thing.
Glad we aren't dealing with that stuff here. But we have our own problems.
    And your new president didn't get off to a very good start in relations with Canada.

As far as the board goes...I only carry one gun (at a time) 


I have a few, but mostly I am a hobbyist/shooter, and not really a nut (and there are plenty).  Shooting is something I really enjoy.  I don't hunt, but I am not against it.  I somewhat recently got into reloading my own ammo, which has increased my interest in learning more about all of it.  I guess I am a hands on tinkerer, and I enjoy the hobby so....  I have several different types of guns which all serve different purposes...most all are more hobby than anything.


and as far as the "new president" goes....I'd say most of the folks on this board were not really expecting a good start (middle, end) from him on any matters so....sorry Canada (and the entire rest of the world)

[richkrt99]

Nice! But does it go "bang" every time you pull the trigger? I've shot an AR-15 (.223) and it was butter sweet! But never really trusted all the tinkering you can do with them? I replaced the spring/trigger assembly in a SW 9mm once and it turned it from a confident CCW gun to something that'd fire -almost- all the time.    Trigger felt better tho!    Anyway, I've been skeptical on home builds ever since..

Goes bang every time!  I put 150 rounds through it yesterday (finally had a day before darkness).  Took about 30 rounds to get the scope sighted in and man....can't believe how accurate these things are.  So much fun to hit what you're aiming at.  Sadly I realized yesterday my ammo can of .223 only had wasn't full and only had 270 rounds in it 


I was only shooting at +/- 50yds but with the scope at 4x you can easily put 10 shots in a 1" square and I am not a great shooter.
I can tell already I need to do something with the scope....It's functional, but can't use the flip up sights with the scope mounted.  Not sure I want to get the scope up high enough to be able to co-witness, but think that might be the ticket.  Either that or just make it a target scope gun, but what's the fun in that?


And....I didn't really build anything...I just assembled completed parts.  Next time though...I'm really starting from ground up.  Just not knowledgeable enough yet to know what I really want or what's good parts vs bad.


I'm thinking I want to build a competition quality rifle but not sure I can afford that.  I would like to get good at 300-500 yards range.  Not really serious (or wealthy) enough to go hang with the 1000yd crowd.


Funny how the new gun parts came in at the same time my wife was visiting her folks in FLA 
She already gives me a hard time every time she walks into the reloading room...."Every time I come in here there is a new box of something"  Naw, honey, I just move them around a lot. 

[alta]

the co witness thing is overrated for the civilian world, especially if you are using a regular scope that doesn't need batteries. The only time I've done it is with a powered red dot. The theory is to back up the electronics when you are storming a beach.


and, if you buy one of today's high quality red dots for light civilian use it will outlast you, quite possibly the battery as well

[alta]

Goes bang every time!  I put 150 rounds through it yesterday (finally had a day before darkness).  Took about 30 rounds to get the scope sighted in and man....can't believe how accurate these things are.  So much fun to hit what you're aiming at.  Sadly I realized yesterday my ammo can of .223 only had wasn't full and only had 270 rounds in it 

I was only shooting at +/- 50yds but with the scope at 4x you can easily put 10 shots in a 1" square and I am not a great shooter.
I can tell already I need to do something with the scope....It's functional, but can't use the flip up sights with the scope mounted.  Not sure I want to get the scope up high enough to be able to co-witness, but think that might be the ticket.  Either that or just make it a target scope gun, but what's the fun in that?

And....I didn't really build anything...I just assembled completed parts.  Next time though...I'm really starting from ground up.  Just not knowledgeable enough yet to know what I really want or what's good parts vs bad.

I'm thinking I want to build a competition quality rifle but not sure I can afford that.  I would like to get good at 300-500 yards range.  Not really serious (or wealthy) enough to go hang with the 1000yd crowd.

Funny how the new gun parts came in at the same time my wife was visiting her folks in FLA 
She already gives me a hard time every time she walks into the reloading room...."Every time I come in here there is a new box of something"  Naw, honey, I just move them around a lot. 

The first one I built I thought I was going to do bench rest/target/competition with. So I put a 24" bull barrel on it. It was a tack driver. But damn was it heavy, and I never got to use it for the intended roll. I put a 20" thinner profile barrel on it, it's still a tack driver, and still heavy. I wish I would've went to 18". 18" is plenty for .223 at under 500 yards. You'd be amazed at what distances .223/5.56 is lethal at in trained hands. I have no need/interest in shooting that far. For an all around under 500 yard rifle, which includes legally hunting in this state, you really can't beat 6.8spc. The 6.8 and 6.5G are almost equal under 500 yards. Where a 6.5 really shines is over 500 yards, well over. That's target shooting range. No one hunts at those distances, there are too many variables. The .300 whisper was revived for the AR and renamed the blackout. It's best use is suppressed subsonic. I'm not impressed enough with it to get one. I've built 6.8 in 20" and 16". You've gotta be real good to notice a difference between them at range. If you build you do need a couple special tools. After you build one you will have the disease so the tools will come in handy. Since you are going to build with quality parts, the only difference between a compition rifle and non compition rifle is the barrel, and even that is questionable. A good AR barrel will cost between $200 and $500, depending on features desired. The real difference is going to be the user. If the primary consideration is bench rest type compition, I'd go 18-20" depending on barrel profile.

The original AR was made with a 20" barrel in 1956(and marketed to civilians in semi auto only from day one). I don't think the military went to a shorter barrel until about 1980ish. The version the troops use today has a 14.5" barrel, special forces have been known use a 10" with suppressor, depends on the mission.

Quantico has a range civilians can use. I think you have to join a club and it's either 500 or 1000 yards, that's the only reason I would've been looking at that option. The only other 1000 yard option around here that I know of is Peacemaker National in WV kinda close to Winchester.

You could always buy a non breach loading cannon and go shoot at Ft Shenandoah with the N-SSA. We all know you can afford it. I don't have any interest in muzzle loaders but almost bought one after watching a couple matches out there.

[richkrt99]

Got me some SR primers on the way.  Paid too much, but worked hard at GB.
5000 SR for $377. (plus $32 shipping)  That's about 8 cents a piece.  About twice what they should be but I have not found ANY SR on store shelves this past year.  Bought 1000 at the CHantilly Gun show (early October I think) for $40 but all they had, and I haven't seen any since.  I'm not a big fan of the gun shows.


STILL WAITING on my shell plate for my progressive press for .223.  (Hornady shell plate #16).  I did finally find it "in stock" at MidSouth Shooters Supply, and purchased about 12 days ago, but it still has yet to ship  .  They said shipping was approx 6-10 days backed up to ship, but we are on day 12.  Meh - not that big a hurry, been looking for one for so long was shocked I actually found one in stock.  Just hope they don't ship it to someone else before they get my order filled.


HAH!  literally got a UPS ship notifications while I was whining about this...should arrive Wednesday. 


Now....I just need that elusive Hornady progressive shell plate #1 to reload .308 Win.  Haven't been able to find that for a year.  Ticks me off only in that the progressive press USED to come with this #1 plate and when I ordered my press there were plenty to be had, but by the time I received my press (Aug 2020) they was all but gone.  Been looking ever since and yet to find one. 

[richkrt99]

BY the way....and more importantly for any gun enthusiast such as myself...




Joe Biden and his ATF thugs are trying to redefine what firearms and parts are....basically trying to make it harder or altogether ILLEGAL to build your own firearm.


Big ATF dump late FRIDAY (so as not to be in the news) with lots of changes.  I have always been a law abiding, tax paying citizen and have never broken, much less been charged or convicted of breaking any law.  I have complied with all laws including gun laws, have never been done anything illegal or remotely skirted any gun law.  However, I have legally purchased gun "parts" in my home that if the proposed regulations go through (again Regulation and not a LAW passed by congress), then I will post factly be a criminal who has committed a felony simply by owning parts of guns that were completed legal prior to these new "Regulations".  I never considered myself a big 2nd Amendment guy, but the shit is getting real.  I am the most stable and down to earth person that I know, yet I DO like my gun hobby.  Joe Biden is trying to turn me into a felon without me ever doing anything that was illegal.  WTF?  I can't have a hobby because you fucking fascists don't know how to define what a gun frame or receiver or slide is?
And they are not doing this through LAW passed by congress, but rather just a "regulation" which they can blindly issue without congressional review.  (sounds very constitutional)


And....WTF difference does it make?  You think a CRIMINAL is going to care what protocol to follow for filing the proper paperwork when mayhem is on his mind?  Like the paperwork is what is stopping him from committing heinous crimes?

[alta]

the only gun related law that has been enacted in my lifetime that could be argued has made a difference is the NICS, even the DOJ/FBI admitted the Clinton "assault weapon" ban had no measurable effect on crime


none of these anti Bill of Rights communists have ever filled out a 4473

[alta]

Rich, before you dive in and build your own, you should read a bit at M4C and arfcom in the builds/technical areas. I researched a good six months before I built my 1st. Not much has changed since then. I will never build one with carbine length gas unless it's a 10" barrel. I'd go mid length at a minimum. It beats up the rifle less, which beats on you less. It also extends the life of components, which admittedly isn't that big of a deal if you aren't shooting 10,000 rounds a year with it.

[richkrt99]

I've done some reading and researching and watching of other's builds (internet not first hand).  I'm on hold with anything new now anyways.  I've spent so much the last two years on the new reloading stuff.....AP Press, dies, powder measures, plates. brass, bullets, powder, PRIMERS!!!, etc. etc.  I have a spreadsheet of every nickel I've spent and I'm at $4600.  Sounds like a lot, but I have materials and such for thousands of rounds of six different calibers.  I bought frugally where I could with a lot of clean once fired brass and bought the whole stock of a guy selling out for other interests (lots of shells, bullets for .45, 9mm, .223)
I splurged on the recent upper & lower only cause they were super cheap on sale and I wanted a different upper to experiment with optics on (my A2 has carry handle) so...



Everything I have purchased is mid-length and that's where I will stay.  I am not really interested in the SBR or AR pistols.  And I love to shoot, but I'm not up to a competition guy so it will take me years to shoot 10,000 rounds.  Love to, but time and money...and time.



Anyway - I have every component I need except for the Hornady AP shell plate #1 (.308 Win).  It's a damn $26-29 part and I haven't been able to get one for 18 months.  I'm on everyone's wait and email list.  I saw some asswipe vendor on Amazon had it "in stock" and selling it for $159.  I hope buyers remember these jackwagons when shit normalizes again and never buy anything from them again (ahem....Cheaper than Dirt, cough, cough)

[richkrt99]

So I have a new problem/question...  How the hell do you get an old flash hider off?  I have a c. 1999 AR-15 (Bushmaster .223).  It's 22 years old and had some rounds through it and sits in a safe a lot, but I tried to get the old one off recently and could not.  I used a wrench and held the gun between my legs (very technical I know), but I could not budge it.  I've inspected very carefully and it is not pinned/welded.  I have not tried it in the vice yet (need to make/get a vice block for the barrel), but everything I've read or watched says it aint that hard.  I even heated up the barrel (with 120 quick rounds thru it) and still can't move it.


I watched some nimrod teenager put his rifle in a vice holding only the handguard and then heating with a blow torch and then using a wrench but all the torque he is applying is going up the barrel as the rifle is only secured by the hand guard.


Couple forums suggested maybe it's left hand threaded, and I never thought of that, but I would not think it would be.  And 95% of everyone says it's regular RH threads.


After watching another 8 videos....looks like I need to just go make the vice/barrel block.


I've busted some stuck bolts loose before (try removing the nut on the bottom of a bush hog spindle) and I really didn't think this would be that difficult.

[alta]

Some flash hiders were factory installed with a product called rockset. If it was its gotta be soaked in hot water if I remember correctly for it to release. They shouldn't take that much torque to remove and I know of no American rifles that have reverse muzzle threads, like AKs have.


All else fails ask at m4c


and yea, really should use a barrel block with resin. I don't have one, and I think I've been lucky so far

[DC_1908]

Well, if anything falls under the category of "worth a few grand to put in a glass case and never use", this sure as hell does





https://www.americaremembers.com/product/john-wayne-tribute-rifle/

[richkrt99]

Hey Alta...


I want to get a 9mm rifle (16" carbine) upper and use on one of my AR lowers (with a magwell adapter).  Do I need to adjust springs or buffer or anything?
Or just get a dedicated 9mm lower?  I am on a budget, but also don't want to tear anything up or have malfunctions.  If I have to do much mod to the AR15 lower, then I can't use it for the AR so it's not so much worth it.


Trying to get a 9mm rifle gun on the cheap.  I'd buy a Ruger PC-9 but they pricey.  MSRP $799, prolly get one for maybe $700 IF YOU COULD FIND ONE.