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Re: Guns and Blowin Shit Up!
« Reply #140 on: March 23, 2021, 08:19:23 PM »
The AR15 is smaller and lighter than the AR pattern rifle that shoots the .308 NATO. That's the main reason people want to shoot a bigger bullet out of the AR15, and Virginia is one of a handful of states that requires a .240 or bigger bullet to hunt bambi with. That's the main reason I got into the 6.8. Plus it's just fun playing with different calibers.
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Re: Guns and Blowin Shit Up!
« Reply #141 on: March 25, 2021, 06:35:55 PM »
I saw a very nice looking sharps rifle go at online auction ...last night in Woodstock, VA 
It looked to be in very good condition.  Went for about $4500 I think.  25-06 caliber.  It was pretty.  I know very little about Sharps


I was watching a Marlin 336C  30-30, nice walnut, good condition.  (2007 year model)  Went for $525 which was just a bit rich for me site unseen in online auction.  (plus additional 13% auction fee)  I kind of regret it but I keep reading there's a million of them out there easily available and only worth $350-400 which I find hard to believe


Had I not gone a little over last year in gun/reloading spending I might have chased the Marlin a little more.  I had it as high bidder at $400 for most of the day.  THen the sharks came in with 10 minutes left and bid it up to $525.  One of the reasons I don't like auction sites.


...like I need ANOTHER caliber gun to load for (I don't own a 30-30).  My buddy decided to keep his dad's Henry centennial edition Railroad spike gun and NOT sell it to me last year for our agreed $600.  He took it to a dealer and they told him it was worth $400-$550 without the original box.  It's never been fired and he has no real use or desire for it, but he's afraid his dad might not like him getting rid of it.



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Re: Guns and Blowin Shit Up!
« Reply #142 on: March 25, 2021, 06:52:27 PM »
The Marlin that got away... (No Mick...NOT a fish)


https://laughlinauctions.hibid.com/lot/85579777/marlin-rifle

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Re: Guns and Blowin Shit Up!
« Reply #143 on: March 25, 2021, 06:58:14 PM »
Four boxes of primers sold at that auction yesterday too (separately)


CCI Large Pistol - $140 box (1000)
CCI Small RIfle - $190 box (1000)
Federal SR Match - $170 (1000)
Federal SR Match - $160 (1000)

I bid with them up to $85 and said bye.  Too rich for my blood.  Guess some peeps need them more than I do.
Actually those are cheaper than they've been selling on GunBroker lately, but still.

They also had a nice SIG 226 in .40 S&W  (I'm very fond of the Sigs)  Went for $585 I think.  I didn't even bid, but I really thought about that .40.  ONE MORE caliber I really NEED  :uh-huh:
Looking back, I wish I'd had more time to think about that Marlin....

I'm done buying for a while...Went bonkers last year
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Re: Guns and Blowin Shit Up!
« Reply #144 on: March 25, 2021, 07:44:10 PM »
You didn't miss out, but that is about the high side of what a decent Marlin .30-30 should cost, without a scope. The pre safety ones go for a few dollars more, but not much.

Remington bought Marlin in late '06ish. I believe 2007 is the first year of Remlins. I wouldnt buy one unless you can put your hands on it first to check fit & finish and to see if the action is smooth. When Reminton took it over they canned all the Marlin workers and installed their own. To make things worse Marlin didn't tell anyone how worn out all their equipment was, the old Marlin guys were highly skilled rifle builders. The Remington people were parts assemblers that were given worn out tooling and the product showed, though that's not a good excuse for not properly fitting a wood stock. Most of the early Remlins have had the actions smoothed out by now, but not all. Remington fixed most of those problems within two years, having spent a large fortune for new tooling.

The Marlin made rifles have a circled JM stamp on top the barrel where it screws into the receiver, the vast majority on the left side but there are a bunch stamped on the right. I think the factory had a left handed QC guy. The Remiln guns have a circled REP in the same place.

Remington bought everything they could in the early 2000s, overextended themselves, and went bankrupt two years ago. This at time of record firearm and ammo sales. Poor management. Late last year Ruger bought Marlin. Ruger has said they are dedicated to restoring the Marlin brand but it will be at least 12 months before they manufacture any new rifles. Anything new on a dealers rack now is old stock Remington. Word is Ruger received over 100 tractor trailers of Marlin stuff, they need to build a facility to set up production and go through all that inventory.
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Re: Guns and Blowin Shit Up!
« Reply #145 on: March 25, 2021, 07:52:40 PM »
I prefer Marlin over Winchester. I think the actions are a lot smoother and I donít like the top eject. For such an iconic rifle I find the action too clunky. Marlin Company is only two years younger than Winchester company.


 all my Marlins are JM stamped
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Re: Guns and Blowin Shit Up!
« Reply #146 on: March 26, 2021, 10:44:58 AM »
I inquired about a JM stamp on it and never got a response...but it was day of the auction.  I only happened across the auction - friend of mine spotted the primers and told me the day of which is what led me there.  Always liked the Marlins as a kid...never owned one.  Really have no need, but what's need got to do with it?


I "read" anything up to 2009 was still Marlin...so 07 should be okay, but....not like a could see it first hand or really know what I was looking at anyway for that matter.  I really wasn't in the market for another gun...but it caught my attention.


So I looked it up and Remington bought Marlin December 07 and closed the Marlin plant by end of 08 so sounds to me like 09 would certainly be suspect (despite most saying up through 09 is Marlin ok)
Anything 07 would have been made by the Marlin guys and in the Marlin plant, and probably 08 as well.  Not sure how much inventory and parts would be built up but I'd guess an 09 would maybe have the right parts but the wrong hands assembling them (and probably retain the JM stamp if using inventory parts) so I'll keep that in mind





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Re: Guns and Blowin Shit Up!
« Reply #147 on: March 26, 2021, 11:50:47 AM »
That doesnít mean the first couple years of REP stamped rifles are all junk, but they should be examined hands on before buying one. The other reason I prefer the JM rifles, there are far more caliber choices. Unless someone is shooting cowboy action games, itís damn near impossible to wear out a lever gun, no matter who makes it. Some will have a lot of cosmetic damage from years of hunting, but the internals are what matters most. As Iíve said, I got no problem buying used, and sometimes thatís the only to get what youíre looking for.

I think youíd like a .40. I prefer it over the 9mm. Iíve never been to fond of the 9, always thought it underpowered for a self defense round. Santo John Paul was shot 4 times with one, though there may have been a higher power involved. But, Iíve read the modern 9 is much improved both in power and bullet design/construction. The .40 is also one of the few rounds that isnít 100 years old, literally. Itís a cut down 10mm, because the 10 was deemed to hard to handle for female agents(fbi), and the 10 was introduced in the early Ď80s.

Before my tragic boating accident, I had a CZ 75B and a S&W Shield in .40. Everyone that I let shoot the CZ loved it, being full size and all steel helped though. The Shield I surprisingly thought was easy to control as well, and not the snappy little POS a .380 is. Even the plastic guns like XDm and Block are easy to handle in .40.

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