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KitFisto:
Advocating for injuries is just pitiful.
Mickstix:
NHL isn't letting anyone cheap shot/intimidate the other teams anymore.. Even Wilson, who's a clean hard hitter, gets singled out.. You put a team full of that on the ice and the NHL will have a field day ruining the "system to beat the system".. Anyway, I thought what got all this started was debating what a champ/chump McPhee was? :wackysmile: The "BPA extraordinaire" GM.. :rofl:
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: KitFisto on Thursday August 02, 2018, 03:20:13 PM Eastern ---Advocating for injuries is just pitiful.
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just a tactic, and formula to use against a team, organization and opponentt.
It’s just business. A simple formula, no more, no less
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Thursday August 02, 2018, 04:21:41 PM Eastern ---NHL isn't letting anyone cheap shot/intimidate the other teams anymore.. Even Wilson, who's a clean hard hitter, gets singled out.. You put a team full of that on the ice and the NHL will have a field day ruining the "system to beat the system".. Anyway, I thought what got all this started was debating what a champ/chump McPhee was? :wackysmile: The "BPA extraordinaire" GM.. :rofl:
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Fuck the NHL. If someone gets suspended, have the plan in place to bring the next guy up.
But hey, outta Monumentalscontrol, he set records, won a Confrence, and made the Finals in one year and faced about 15 of his picks and/or signings
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Thursday August 02, 2018, 12:21:57 PM Eastern ---While no one wants see someone (not on the Hens, or named otherwise named Lemieux) get hurt , . . .its can be an effective tactic that can cause a ripple effect including forces changes in line up, system, depth chart, call ups (which could involve waivers), that can go down to their AHL teams. . .
It is can be viewed as cruel etc. but applied in a formula it makes sense. Unless your playing a team with Darren McCarty on it (ask CLemiieux).
But, Vegas was full of Beagle like players. Karlsson, R Smith, Tuch, England, McNab 3rd or 4th liners/3rd pairings that no one cared about because they dont toe-drag, sell jerseys, and where the 3rd line trash of teams. I won't say they looked ordinary in the playoffs, unless ordinary is the worst they've ever played. I would most of that loss on Gallant (I should of added him above, damn he was a hell of player). Trotz clearly saw what LA did, and came up with a plan to slow them down. Gallent responded by continuing to "ride the white horse" and made minimal if no adjustments to what they've done all year, (probably betting the Caps would self destruct on their own)
On the other topic, by beagle like, I meant, smart, excelling in defense, hard working, intense, and versatile players that do more than sell tickets, nor care about it You seem to forget that (at least pre-injury) Beagle was one of the fastest skaters (drill wise), and one of the strongest on the team (verified by a member of the training staff). He also put up plenty of points when he was with Wilson and Winnik and could contribute offensively as needed (like the great pass for DSPs in the last game). He had to do A LOT of the grunt work for this to team to have success which hurt his stats and eyeball-tests
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Beagle is smart and a hard worker. If he wasnt he wouldn't be in the NHL. He still is nothing more than a 4th liner. He isn't as good defensively as you might think.
Why dont you include Stephenson when you talk about hard working guys. He is so good defensively, especially for a player his age. He also has a good hockey IQ. And he is a very good skater. Might be the fastest skater on the team. I'd like to see him more aggressive in the offensive zone though. He is already a better player than Beagle. The only thing Beagle does better is faceoffs
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