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DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Thursday August 02, 2018, 08:42:04 PM Eastern --- Beagle is smart and a hard worker. If he wasnt he wouldn't be in the NHL. He still is nothing more than a 4th liner. He isn't as good defensively as you might think.
Why dont you include Stephenson when you talk about hard working guys. He is so good defensively, especially for a player his age. He also has a good hockey IQ. And he is a very good skater. Might be the fastest skater on the team. I'd like to see him more aggressive in the offensive zone though. He is already a better player than Beagle. The only thing Beagle does better is faceoffs
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Stevenson is great, but he ain’t Beagle good yet.
I still don’t see why you hate Beagle so much. Did you hate Draper and Madden too? Because the about the only difference is they didn’t have have to do all the work on a offense first team with two other centers that can’t play D
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Thursday August 02, 2018, 09:37:09 PM Eastern ---Stevenson is great, but he ain’t Beagle good yet.
I still don’t see why you hate Beagle so much. Did you hate Draper and Madden too? Because the about the only difference is they didn’t have have to do all the work on a offense first team with two other centers that can’t play D
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Sorry but Stephenson is already a better all round player than Beagle is.
I dont hate Beagle. I actually like him. I just dont think he is as good as you make him out to be. He wasnt the savior of our team He was a role player. Pk and faceoff specialist. He is oprobably the furthest thing away from a 2way player there is. Most of his time is spent in the defensive zone. No I didnt hate Draper or Madden either. Similar type players. They were good role players. Better 2way players than Beagle. Better defensively too.
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Thursday August 02, 2018, 09:37:09 PM Eastern ---Stevenson is great, but he ain’t Beagle good yet.
I still don’t see why you hate Beagle so much. Did you hate Draper and Madden too? Because the about the only difference is they didn’t have have to do all the work on a offense first team with two other centers that can’t play D
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Which centers are you saying can't play d? They are all defensively responsible although Kuzy is below average defensively. I would say Eller is at least average defensively. And Backstrom is solid. I would rank Beagle 2nd behind Backstrom.
Beagle might not have even been our 2nd best defensive center last season. He had his struggles in the defensive zone and on the pk last season.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Friday August 03, 2018, 08:35:26 AM Eastern --- Which centers are you saying can't play d? They are all defensively responsible although Kuzy is below average defensively. I would say Eller is at least average defensively. And Backstrom is solid. I would rank Beagle 2nd behind Backstrom.
Beagle might not have even been our 2nd best defensive center last season. He had his struggles in the defensive zone and on the pk last season.
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Both Kurt and Eller. Eller is effective when he feels like it, but more than likely neither of those two will ever be mentioned in Sellers if not assigned as s shutout center if other are available.
But yea Backstom is execlllent. Between he a Beagle, i was who was 1 & 2 depended on situation. and matchup
BlackIce:
I would only comment that, with the Caps having a one goal lead in the clinching Stanley Cup final game, the forwards on the ice during the last 45 seconds of the game were Eller, Kuznetsov, and Wilson. The defensemen were Niskanen and Orpik.
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