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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #200 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:40:18 PM Eastern »
Anyone else following the other series, particularly Marchand and his lick-fest?



What in the hell is that all about?    Licking someone? 

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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #201 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:40:55 PM Eastern »
What confuses me is why people are so upset that the defense has taken steps back this year.  We all knew this was going to happen when vets leave and rookies without elite pedigree take their places.  And the derivative issue is that Carlson and Orpik, especially, have been overworked in high-leverage situations.  It catches up with anybody as the looooooong season wears on.


We're hanging in this because Pittsburgh's defense is no great shakes either and Murray has not been the same goalie he was in previous playoffs.


Look at the TOI distribution in tonight's game.  The Pens are going to be significantly fresher going down the stretch and in OT, if it gets that far.  Those few extra minutes, especially at a playoff level, mean something.  I suspect if we're going to win this game, we'd better win it in regulation.

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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #202 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:41:13 PM Eastern »

Other than the fact that they don't? The refs get a shit ton of calls wrong, and have been awful, and are especially awful playing the Pens. But they don't get every single call on the ice wrong. And they don't NEVER call the Pens for diving.


That statement isn't somehow agreeing with the Pens diving tactics or excusing the refs for the mistakes they have made. It's just a statement of fact. The shitty Pens manipulate the refs who already have a tough enough time doing the job as it is, which makes the situation even further. The fact that it gets made out as some conspiracy against us (The caps) is where these narrative threads always lose me. It isn't a conspiracy. It's just bullshit. And it's just typical for the Pens lol. Watch any of their other series and it's littered with way more shit calls than any other. It's because the Pens push the refs buttons to create that shit.


I'm not saying it's a good tactic, I'm just saying that is what is going on and it happens every playoffs and it's trash.

I agree with most of what you say, but I am sure the refs lean hard in favor of the Penguins. All the  stats and our observations for many years prove that.

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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #203 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:41:58 PM Eastern »
Anyone else following the other series, particularly Marchand and his lick-fest?



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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #204 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:43:10 PM Eastern »
Two tripping calls missed by the refs. On one shift.  Fuck the refs.
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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #205 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:43:29 PM Eastern »

as the saying goes, even a blind squirrel gets a nut now and then. You posted that the Hens got called once for diving. Even you can admit we see it far more often than that, and we only see them about 10 times a season, counting the playoffs. That's out of an 82 game season, and, when you go to YouTube and search Hens diving, very little of the footage is from Caps games. So at best you are pointing out that the Hens get called on their actions about what, %5 of the time?


I'm sorry, what was your point?


The point is to take the pressure off the refs. It isn't really a "referee" issue. It's a Pittsburgh Penguin issue. The default diving mindset they have is not only reckless, childish, and petty, it can be dangerous. I feel like to me it's the type of thing that and the whining their coaching staff and players are allowed to get away with that should be brought up at GM meetings and the like. Harsher rules for that stuff, more suspensions for diving, more focus on the integrity of the game.


Either that or allow the enforcer to come back and let us make their boys pay for every dive.


For the record when I say it's not a referee issue I'm not referring to shitty calls. That is an issue, but that happens every series regardless. We had games where the calls weren't great in Columbus and other times where it was fine. The refs aren't great on the whole in the NHL, but it gets magnified and amplified in every single series the Pens play. There just isn't consistency when it comes to some of their tactics, because a lot of them aren't your typical tactics of a cheap team. They play the victim card more than any other team. And while I agree it's bullshit, I'd rather the practical focus get put on that instead of "oh the ref didn't catch that, the refs are clearly getting paid by the Pens." Which is just a silly statement to make. That isn't true. The pens are just trash bags who have tainted the integrity of the penalty by diving and whining. That is true.

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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #206 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:44:29 PM Eastern »
HOLY SHIT!  Pens are absolutely grabbing and hooking Caps to the ice with no calls! Total fucking bullshit.  I never believed in conspiracy theory but this is too fucking much.

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« Reply #207 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:44:48 PM Eastern »
Sorry guys but Beagle sucks. Wide open net and missed it. Not even close

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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #208 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:45:31 PM Eastern »
Two tripping calls missed by the refs. On one shift.  Fuck the refs.


Totally blatant crap and they aren't calling shit.  IN OUR FUCKING BARN!

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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #209 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:46:05 PM Eastern »

The point is to take the pressure off the refs. It isn't really a "referee" issue. It's a Pittsburgh Penguin issue. The default diving mindset they have is not only reckless, childish, and petty, it can be dangerous. I feel like to me it's the type of thing that and the whining their coaching staff and players are allowed to get away with that should be brought up at GM meetings and the like. Harsher rules for that stuff, more suspensions for diving, more focus on the integrity of the game.


Either that or allow the enforcer to come back and let us make their boys pay for every dive.


For the record when I say it's not a referee issue I'm not referring to shitty calls. That is an issue, but that happens every series regardless. We had games where the calls weren't great in Columbus and other times where it was fine. The refs aren't great on the whole in the NHL, but it gets magnified and amplified in every single series the Pens play. There just isn't consistency when it comes to some of their tactics, because a lot of them aren't your typical tactics of a cheap team. They play the victim card more than any other team. And while I agree it's bullshit, I'd rather the practical focus get put on that instead of "oh the ref didn't catch that, the refs are clearly getting paid by the Pens." Which is just a silly statement to make. That isn't true. The pens are just trash bags who have tainted the integrity of the penalty by diving and whining. That is true.


As I've said, the league is well aware of the Hens diving. It could easily be fixed with supplemental discipline like they do with the hitting, yet the league refuses to do so. That in upon itself is bias if they won't fix it.
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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #210 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:46:15 PM Eastern »

The point is to take the pressure off the refs. It isn't really a "referee" issue. It's a Pittsburgh Penguin issue. The default diving mindset they have is not only reckless, childish, and petty, it can be dangerous. I feel like to me it's the type of thing that and the whining their coaching staff and players are allowed to get away with that should be brought up at GM meetings and the like. Harsher rules for that stuff, more suspensions for diving, more focus on the integrity of the game.


Either that or allow the enforcer to come back and let us make their boys pay for every dive.


For the record when I say it's not a referee issue I'm not referring to shitty calls. That is an issue, but that happens every series regardless. We had games where the calls weren't great in Columbus and other times where it was fine. The refs aren't great on the whole in the NHL, but it gets magnified and amplified in every single series the Pens play. There just isn't consistency when it comes to some of their tactics, because a lot of them aren't your typical tactics of a cheap team. They play the victim card more than any other team. And while I agree it's bullshit, I'd rather the practical focus get put on that instead of "oh the ref didn't catch that, the refs are clearly getting paid by the Pens." Which is just a silly statement to make. That isn't true. The pens are just trash bags who have tainted the integrity of the penalty by diving and whining. That is true.

The league should have come down HARD on the Penguins and any other player that dives. That they keep falling for it and never do anything about it kind of says to them to keep on  doing it.  They should suspend players that do that shit.
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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #211 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:47:12 PM Eastern »
Backy is not on the bench right now
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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #212 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:47:22 PM Eastern »

As I've said, the league is well aware of the Hens diving. It could easily be fixed with supplemental discipline like they do with the hitting, yet the league refuses to do so. That in upon itself is bias if they won't fix it.

Hehe, we typed basically the same thing at the same time. Great minds think alike.
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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #213 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:47:46 PM Eastern »
Anyone see what happened to Backy?
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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #214 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:48:19 PM Eastern »
Backy is not on the bench right now


Didn't notice that yeah is he hurt?

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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #215 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:48:44 PM Eastern »
Backstrom got hurt on a PK blocking shots didn't he?  The announcers talked about it.   Have they totally forgotten?

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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #216 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:49:14 PM Eastern »
equipment manager is at the bench, head trainer is not. Assumption would be it's not equipment related
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« Reply #217 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:50:13 PM Eastern »
Hehe, we typed basically the same thing at the same time. Great minds think alike.


Also yeah you guys pretty much on the same page as me then. I agree that the league knows already, only pointing out that our GM is the one who should be tackling this. Or the Cocach through the proper channels. Us calling the individual referee's biased in a specific game doesn't do anything and just seems like conspiracy theory garbage. Also, not saying going through the proper channels will create change but if the Pens can whine their way to results maybe BMGM could at least try to get them to take a look at how much diving is going on, especially with this team.

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« Reply #218 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:52:19 PM Eastern »
Backstrom got hurt on a PK blocking shots didn't he?  The announcers talked about it.   Have they totally forgotten?

That was a while ago. He played since then.
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Re: GDT R2G5 Penguins @ Capitals 2018-05-05 7:00pm EST NBC, SN, TVAS
« Reply #219 on: Saturday May 05, 2018, 09:52:59 PM Eastern »

Also yeah you guys pretty much on the same page as me then. I agree that the league knows already, only pointing out that our GM is the one who should be tackling this. Or the Cocach through the proper channels. Us calling the individual referee's biased in a specific game doesn't do anything and just seems like conspiracy theory garbage. Also, not saying going through the proper channels will create change but if the Pens can whine their way to results maybe BMGM could at least try to get them to take a look at how much diving is going on, especially with this team.


So the too many men that wasn't and following phantom trip wasn't bad enough? When the zebras know they screwed the pooch they blow a makeup call, Caps never got one. Nope, no bias.
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