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Title: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 02:34:04 PM Eastern
               :capslogolarge:
                             
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  Game 25:  31-14-7-3 (PTS-W-L-OT)
  Friday November 30, 2018   New Jersey Devils @ Washington Capitals
  Place:  Capital One Center
  Time: 7:00 p.m. ET
  TV: NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
  Radio: 106.7 The Fan, Capitals Radio 24/7
  NHL.COM (https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/2018020391) for Live Box Score
  Last Game: Mon November 26 Capitals Won 4-1 against Islanders
  Next Game: Sun December 2, 3:00pm ET Ducks @ Capitals


:spacer50pix:  8-Ovechkin :spacer50pix: 19-Bäckström :spacer50pix: 43-Wilson
:spacer50pix: 13-Vrana :spacer50pix: 92-Kuznetsov :spacer50pix: 10-Connolly
:spacer50pix: 65-Burakovsky :spacer50pix: 20-Eller :spacer50pix: 25-Smith-Pelly
:spacer50pix: 23-Jaskin  :spacer50pix: 26-Dowd :spacer50pix: 18-Stephenson
:spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix:   6-Kempny :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson
:spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix:   9-Orlov  :spacer50pix:  2-Niskanen
:spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 29-Djoos :spacer50pix: 34-22-Bowey
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 70-Holtby (starter)
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix:   1-Copley

                                                      -- SCRATCH --         
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 72-Boyd
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 77-Oshie (upper body injury, day-to-day)
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 34-Siegenthaler

                                               -- INJURED RESERVE --         
:spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix::spacer50pix: 44-Orpik (Knee Surgery, 3-5 weeks before return)
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                                            -- 1st Powerplay Unit -- 
    :spacer50pix: 43-Wilson     :spacer50pix: 19-Bäckström     :spacer50pix: 92-Kuznetsov
    :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 8-Ovechkin     :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 74-Carlson


                                         -- 2nd Powerplay Unit --         
    :spacer50pix: 13-Vrana     :spacer50pix: 10-Connolly     :spacer50pix: 65-Burakovsky
    :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix:  2-Niskanen     :spacer50pix: :spacer50pix: 9-Orlov

:spacer50pix:  Referees:   Trevor Hanson (#14),    Dean Morton (#36)
:spacer50pix:  Linesmen:   Travis Gawryletz (#67),    Brandon Gawryletz (#64)



                           DEVILS LINEUP
            Taylor Hall - Nico Hischier - Kyle Palmieri
           Marcus Johansson - Pavel Zacha - Jesper Bratt
             Blake Coleman - Travis Zajac - Miles Wood
            Brian Boyle - Brett Seney - Michael McLeod

                  Mirco Mueller - Sami Vatanen
                  Andy Greene - Damon Severson
                   Will Butcher - Ben Lovejoy

                        Keith Kinkaid (starter)
                        Cory Schneider


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1st Period
03:51  GOAL 19-Bäckström, assists 8-Ovechkin & 6-Kempny   1-0 WSH

2nd Period
00:08  SH GOAL 43-Wilson, assists 2-Niskanen & 6-Kempny   2-0 WSH
09:23  Devils SH GOAL Zajac, assist Coleman   2-1 WSH

3rd Period
05:45  GOAL 65-Burakovsky, assists 6-Kempny & 19-Bäckström   3-1 WSH
10:57  PP GOAL 19-Bäckström, assists 92-Kuznetsov & 74-Carlson   4-1
12:35  Devils GOAL Hischier, unassisted   4-2 WSH
18:10  Devils GOAL Johansson, assists Hischier & Hall   4-3 WSH
18:30  EN GOAL 8-Ovechkin, unassisted   5-3 WSH
19:37  EN GOAL 19-Bäckström, assists 8-Ovechkin   6-3 WSH

FINAL:    6-3 WSH




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By Isabelle Khurshudyan NNovember 30 at 12:55 PM

Capitals center Evgeny Kuznetsov returns to the lineup after concussion


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Washington Capitals center Evgeny Kuznetsov has six goals and 15 assists through 18 games. (Nick Wass/Associated Press)


Washington Capitals center Evgeny Kuznetsov will play his first game in more than two weeks on Friday night, returning to the lineup against the New Jersey Devils after suffering a concussion on Nov. 14. At the time Kuznetsov went down, he was leading the team in scoring with six goals and 15 assists in 18 games, so his return will be a considerable boost to a club that’s won its past six games.

“He’s a special player and we’re just so fortunate to have him back,” Coach Todd Reirden said. “The energy he brings, the speed, allows us to slot our lines a little differently. He’s one of the elite players in the league when he’s playing the way he can play, and we’re fortunate to see a lot of that early in the year. I’m just happy he’s back 100 percent healthy and good to go tonight.”

Since Kuznetsov’s first full NHL season in 2014-15, he hadn’t missed more than three games going into this year, and the concussion kept him out for six. Asked whether this was the first concussion of his career, Kuznetsov said, “I don’t have a lot of brain in my head so it’s not that big of a deal for me.”

“I feel pretty good on the ice, and it’s so good to be back on the ice, you know?” Kuznetsov said. “It’s been a couple tough days, when you can’t even do the bike, that’s kind of not my style, you know? . . . With injuries, it’s not easy to handle it, especially with that type. You can’t even do anything. You just have to take your time and get rest. When you practice a lot and you have a lot of games, you think you’re tired and you feel bad, but then when you don’t practice and don’t have games, you feel even worse.”

Kuznetsov had been centering a top line with captain Alex Ovechkin and right wing Tom Wilson before he got hurt, but with the Capitals playing well, Reirden chose to keep Nicklas Backstrom between Ovechkin and Wilson. Kuznetsov will skate with Brett Connolly and Jakub Vrana, and he’ll also return to the top power-play unit.

“It’s not easy to join the team when they’ve won six in a row,” Kuznetsov said. “My job is probably don’t change anything, just try to play my game and do what’s best for the team. . . . When you’re excited to get back on the ice, you want to be everywhere, you want to do everything. But at the same time, you have to understand it’s not going to be easy in the game. It takes a little bit of time to get back in the game routine.”

Forward T.J. Oshie, who also suffered a concussion on Nov. 14, has yet to start skating, and he’ll miss a seventh straight game on Friday.


Read more on the Capitals:
Tom Wilson is the most hated man in hockey. Can he change that? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/11/29/tom-wilson-is-most-hated-man-hockey-can-he-change-that/?utm_term=.588757a0560e)
Capitals present Barry Trotz his Stanley Cup ring before beating his new team (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/capitals-present-barry-trotz-his-stanley-cup-ring-before-beating-his-new-team/2018/11/26/180cebf0-f19b-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html?utm_term=.9ad3e187af55)
After early season growing pains, the Capitals' penalty kill has found its footing (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/11/28/after-early-season-growing-pains-capitals-penalty-kill-has-found-its-footing/?utm_term=.277c4e6de104)
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 03:25:33 PM Eastern
Caps going for 7 in a row tonight, Devils aren’t the pushovers they’ve been for what seems like the past 10 years
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: BlackIce on Friday November 30, 2018, 04:00:57 PM Eastern
Devils 7-1-3 at home, 2-9-1 on the road.  About as bad a split as anywhere in the league.  The Caps on the other hand are virtually equal home and away.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 06:43:58 PM Eastern
they said on the radio Kuzy is a game time decision, he is on the ice for warmups, unless he really doesn’t deal good I’d say he’s playing
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 06:56:52 PM Eastern
   I like that Reirden kept Backstrom with Ovi and Wilson.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:05:22 PM Eastern
NHL tonight acting like he's not back yet? Though they showed the forwards and his name was on the 2nd line.. Guess we'll find out here in a few.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:08:40 PM Eastern
Guess they meant he wasn't back on the top line.. Just said he's playing with Jake and Conno.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:10:12 PM Eastern
I've been hearing for 6 hours that Kuzy was definitely playing. Maybe 5.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:16:22 PM Eastern
 :19:


Saw that one coming!
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:21:29 PM Eastern
Eller.. Stick happy..
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:21:37 PM Eastern
      Nice play by Ovi too.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:23:04 PM Eastern
Eller.. Stick happy..
     I didnt even see the crosscheck. Another dumb penalty by Eller
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:25:47 PM Eastern
Morning chaps.  Better late than never.   :wackysmile:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:29:36 PM Eastern
Too bad they don't take backhand shots (very often) anymore.. Jake would of had a good chance. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:31:20 PM Eastern
Evenin' Lil.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:31:40 PM Eastern
Too bad they don't take backhand shots (very often) anymore.. Jake would of had a good chance.
   I dont know why more guts dont use the back have shot. It is more difficult to pick the puck up for goalies.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:35:50 PM Eastern
   I dont know why more guys dont use the back hand shot. It is more difficult to pick the puck up for goalies.


Curve of the stick (blade) must be the reason? Back in the day it didn't seem uncommon at all..
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:36:40 PM Eastern
   I dont know why more guts dont use the back have shot. It is more difficult to pick the puck up for goalies.

It's tough to pick up pucks with guts.   :P





Hi Lil.   8)
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:37:46 PM Eastern
metric football player Wayne Rooney just got a nice applause, cause he’s in house tonight
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:42:51 PM Eastern
jackass zebras are refing to the scoreboard again
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:46:33 PM Eastern
Are we up there as in the most penalized teams???  Seems like were in the box, multiple times every single period..
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:51:14 PM Eastern
Are we up there as in the most penalized teams???  Seems like were in the box, multiple times every single period..
     We are 6th in times shorthanded.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:53:27 PM Eastern
jackass zebras are refing to the scoreboard again
     Hate to rain on your parade but that was a legit interference penalty. DSP took him out well before the puck got there.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:56:13 PM Eastern
Oh well folks.. Movie time, then I'll catch up on the game with the DVR.. Catch ya'll later!
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 07:59:02 PM Eastern
Oh well folks.. Movie time, then I'll catch up on the game with the DVR.. Catch ya'll later!
See ya babes.   :hearts:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:00:25 PM Eastern
     Hate to rain on your parade but that was a legit interference penalty. DSP took him out well before the puck got there.


hate to rain on your parade because we all know you are an expert and know everyfukinthing, but that wasn’t in reference to the DSP penalty, even though it could have been
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:02:56 PM Eastern

hate to rain on your parade because we all know you are an expert and know everyfukinthing, but that wasn’t in reference to the DSP penalty, even though it could have been
     OK instead of being a dick why dont you say what you were referring to.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:04:08 PM Eastern
This Comcast DVR is possessed.  :O= It just flipped over to record another channel. When I flipped back the game was in the 1st period with 4:58 left. I checked and it said I was watching live.  I had to power down to get it back live. So bizarre.  8-0
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:04:16 PM Eastern
:43:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:04:53 PM Eastern
    Question for AjrjunaZ. Is there anyway to block someone on this site.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:05:15 PM Eastern
WILLLY
with the quickie
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:05:20 PM Eastern
WOWZWES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And a shortie to boot!    :uh-huh:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:05:56 PM Eastern
   Sweet our first shorthanded goal of the season. Everything is going in for Wilson.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:06:56 PM Eastern
    Question for AjrjunaZ. Is there anyway to block someone on this site.

Yes!
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:09:56 PM Eastern
Yes!
    Where do I find it?
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:12:30 PM Eastern
    Where do I find it?

Profile  -  Buddies/ignore or something like that
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:14:46 PM Eastern
Profile  -  Buddies/ignore or something like that
    OK thanks.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:15:10 PM Eastern
or, he just not be a dick to begin with, but that’s probably pushing it
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:21:04 PM Eastern
Well that sucked
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:21:10 PM Eastern
Weak Quaalude play by Holtby. :huh:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:21:16 PM Eastern
Eller turns too many pucks over.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: dpf1971 on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:23:11 PM Eastern
Cool, I show up just in time to see Orlov screw the pooch with his girlish poke-check.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:27:26 PM Eastern
:was:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:29:17 PM Eastern
So. Eller gets the scratch next game??
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: dpf1971 on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:31:00 PM Eastern
So. Eller gets the scratch next game??


If I'd scratch any forward it would be Burakovsky right now.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:34:21 PM Eastern
Weak Quaalude play by Holtby. :huh:
    He lost track of the puck. He wasnt thee only one to blame. Vrana could have played it better and what started the problem was the turnover at the Devils blue line. I think it was Eller.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:37:02 PM Eastern
fukin joke
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:37:35 PM Eastern
That was a stupid decision by Wilson. not a hit to the head IMO.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:38:01 PM Eastern
Wilson is an idiot.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:39:40 PM Eastern
tomorrow will be interesting, that’s a mandatory review
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: dpf1971 on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:39:43 PM Eastern
For Fucks Sake ..... bad call but fucking stupid, unnecessary hit.  Wilson needs to fucking learn.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:39:50 PM Eastern
5 games
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:40:30 PM Eastern
Wilson is an idiot.
     I dont know if that should have been a penalty. The guy turned around and backed into him. And I dont believe it was a hit to the head.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:40:42 PM Eastern
It actually looked like Willy tried to swerve to avoid him.   Either way, I think he's gone again.   :O=
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:42:05 PM Eastern
Seems Locker agrees with me.   :uh-huh:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:42:24 PM Eastern
in house that looked like a dive by the Devils, and we only got one quick replay of it
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Devise on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:43:35 PM Eastern
     I dont know if that should have been a penalty. The guy turned around and backed into him. And I dont believe it was a hit to the head.


I mean it's certainly interference. That is undoubted, regardless of the guy backing into him and Wilson trying to dodge, Wilson clearly hits him hard in the shoulder trying to get out of the way. It's not a major though. Wilson shouldn't of went for that line as his own man and the player he accidentally hit were filling it, he tried to squeak by and interfered with the player without the puck. The player just got hit awkwardly though, nothing predatory about any of that. Just an accident that gets turned into a major because of injury and Tom Wilson lame reputation garbage shit.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:44:53 PM Eastern
It did look a bit like he kind of swerved to make less contact, but he hit the guy in the shoulder from the back and BARELY missed his head. It was a retarded decision to even make contact there. I don't think it was a 5 minute major worthy penalty, maybe a 2 minute. Still stupid considering where he just came from. The league will not judge it with clear eyes.
 :huh:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: justwincaps on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:45:28 PM Eastern
It’s bullshit if Wilson gets anything from this, especially when you compare it to what Malkin did to Oshie.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Devise on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:51:16 PM Eastern
It’s bullshit if Wilson gets anything from this, especially when you compare it to what Malkin did to Oshie.


Oh he will. He'll get at least 5 games. The refs ensured that. All match penalties get automatic suspension review. Because Wilson is not only a repeat offender, but also was only just recently returning from a long suspension where he had a careless head shot lead to injury, that was in fact predatory, nobody not even us can deny that. The hit he was last suspended for was a bad hockey hit and doesn't belong in the game.


So now all the NHL needs to do is make sure it meets the "technicalities" of the rule standards. Because Wilson is boned, and now a repeat offender, it's less "let's hope Wilson stays clean" and more an inevitability. In 2 seasons time, Tom Wilson will no longer be playing in the NHL. Mark my words. I think he has the compete and hustle to don't get me wrong, but now that he has that predatory hit in the pre-season on his ledger, it isn't going to take much in the ways of cheap or even cheap "lite" plays by Wilson for them to throw the book at him due to history.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:51:31 PM Eastern
Oh God, I LOVE Aln May!  "Disgusting" the call on Willy. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:55:34 PM Eastern

I mean it's certainly interference. That is undoubted, regardless of the guy backing into him and Wilson trying to dodge, Wilson clearly hits him hard in the shoulder trying to get out of the way. It's not a major though. Wilson shouldn't of went for that line as his own man and the player he accidentally hit were filling it, he tried to squeak by and interfered with the player without the puck. The player just got hit awkwardly though, nothing predatory about any of that. Just an accident that gets turned into a major because of injury and Tom Wilson lame reputation garbage shit.
    I agree with what May said. He thought it was incidental contact. Maybe 2 minutes for interference at the most.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 08:57:27 PM Eastern
I thought Alta had the best take on it. I agree completely.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:00:43 PM Eastern
the jackass zebras had about a 4 minute conversation with Reirden as the players came back out. Reirden was a bit calmer this time but still visibly unhappy when
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:02:14 PM Eastern
I wanted to comment that the predatory part of the Wilson saga is the league going after him for playing hockey.
 (Ō_ƆŎ)
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:04:21 PM Eastern
This is about Bettman “teaching Willy a lesson.”  Especially since the arbitrator reduced his last one. He will probably go for as many as 10 and then it will be reduced to 5 or 6.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: justwincaps on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:07:45 PM Eastern

Oh he will. He'll get at least 5 games. The refs ensured that. All match penalties get automatic suspension review. Because Wilson is not only a repeat offender, but also was only just recently returning from a long suspension where he had a careless head shot lead to injury, that was in fact predatory, nobody not even us can deny that. The hit he was last suspended for was a bad hockey hit and doesn't belong in the game.


So now all the NHL needs to do is make sure it meets the "technicalities" of the rule standards. Because Wilson is boned, and now a repeat offender, it's less "let's hope Wilson stays clean" and more an inevitability. In 2 seasons time, Tom Wilson will no longer be playing in the NHL. Mark my words. I think he has the compete and hustle to don't get me wrong, but now that he has that predatory hit in the pre-season on his ledger, it isn't going to take much in the ways of cheap or even cheap "lite" plays by Wilson for them to throw the book at him due to history.


Actually I’ll argue against that.  That was not predatory.  A player skating away from a player backskating into him is not predatory. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:07:52 PM Eastern
:65:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:07:57 PM Eastern
Great goal from Burka!
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:08:48 PM Eastern
Pretty Bear. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:09:05 PM Eastern
Bura is trying not to get a lava tan
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:10:24 PM Eastern
Bura is trying not to get a lava tan

 :uh-huh:          :lol:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:12:55 PM Eastern
How is that NOT a penalty?
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:13:08 PM Eastern
two, that’s 2, textbook hooks on Kuzy there
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:13:28 PM Eastern
:ptr:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: DC_1908 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:13:49 PM Eastern
Greetings from Beantown!!


Match penalty and the snowflake came back in the game . . .?? 


—DC & Lady
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: justwincaps on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:14:01 PM Eastern
How is that NOT a penalty?


It was against a Caps player ...... thats how. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:15:57 PM Eastern
Greetings from Beantown!!


Match penalty and the snowflake came back in the game . . .?? 


—DC & Lady


Missed a shift or two.  Probably a soccer player.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Devise on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:16:19 PM Eastern

Actually I’ll argue against that.  That was not predatory.  A player skating away from a player backskating into him is not predatory.


I said the hit he got suspended for this season, initially. Not the hit this game. In fact that is even what I'm arguing, sorry if that seemed unclear. I think Wilson's hit in pre-season against the Blues was predatory. I think this was just an interference incidental contact.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:16:46 PM Eastern
Nice makeup call. Lol.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: dpf1971 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:17:11 PM Eastern
It’s bullshit if Wilson gets anything from this, especially when you compare it to what Malkin did to Oshie.


So you're actually expecting the Pens to be judged like the other teams in the NHL; much less the Caps????
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:17:39 PM Eastern
that’s a payback call for Willy, 44 is the guy Willy “hit”
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:17:42 PM Eastern
Well that was a ake-up call if ever there was one!   :lmao:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: justwincaps on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:18:16 PM Eastern
Double minor for screams “make up” for screwing Wilson. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: justwincaps on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:19:17 PM Eastern

So you're actually expecting the Pens to be judged like the other teams in the NHL; much less the Caps? ???


Point taken, but you can also say it’s bullshit if Wilson is suspsended considering the Winnipeg player WWE head slamming Oshie. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:19:33 PM Eastern
that’s a payback call for Willy, 44 is the guy Willy “hit”


Nah.. it was 43.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:20:37 PM Eastern
Nicky!
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:20:49 PM Eastern
:19z:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:21:06 PM Eastern
Yippee!!!!!!!1  Love it when Nicky shoots.     8)
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: dpf1971 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:22:00 PM Eastern
Nice makeup call. Lol.


Between the bad call on Wilson and the no-call on Kuzy you can expect to see more than a few make-up calls for the Caps in the 3rd.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:23:45 PM Eastern

Between the bad call on Wilson and the no-call on Kuzy you can expect to see more than a few make-up calls for the Caps in the 3rd.


Probably done now.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:25:12 PM Eastern

Between the bad call on Wilson and the no-call on Kuzy you can expect to see more than a few make-up calls for the Caps in the 3rd.
     I'm sure the refs had a chance to review the Wilson penalty between periods and realized they blew it. Now we are getting make up calls.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:25:25 PM Eastern
Tough goal for Holts.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:25:30 PM Eastern
how the fuck (Ō_ƆŎ)
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:26:39 PM Eastern
Double minor for screams “make up” for screwing Wilson.
    I never did see the but tend and they didnt show it in the replay. Did it even happen?
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:27:14 PM Eastern
Tough goal for Holts.
    That goal was on Niskanen.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: justwincaps on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:30:23 PM Eastern
No call on an obvious Djoos slash - God the refs are having a bad night ......l again.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:32:51 PM Eastern
I’m gonna need someone to record and post the postgame, *cough*Arj*cough*
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:33:06 PM Eastern
    That goal was on Niskanen.


He took out his player who took out Holts.  I don’t think fault. Just tough.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:33:20 PM Eastern
We've seen some badly reffed games, but this has got to be in the top 5 of the worst ever.    :poop: :clown:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:35:14 PM Eastern
This is getting ugly.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:35:58 PM Eastern
Kempny has to clear that puck.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:37:05 PM Eastern
:8:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:37:06 PM Eastern
Ovi!  And he usually sucks at that!
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:37:10 PM Eastern
GO BABY!!!!!!!!    :uh-huh:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:37:44 PM Eastern

He took out his player who took out Holts.  I don’t think fault. Just tough.
   True but it was Niskanen that got beat on the play.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:38:59 PM Eastern
:19z:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:39:04 PM Eastern
Great from Ovi to get the Hattie!
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:40:04 PM Eastern
YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AWESOME!    :hearts: 8) 8) 8)
Loving Ovi doing that for Nicky! :angel:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:42:19 PM Eastern
Great way to pad the PK stats!
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:42:47 PM Eastern
Some bones to be picked out of this game, for sure.   :huh:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:44:34 PM Eastern
What a crazy game! Refs are too much a factor, This is becoming  too common.
The league would be totally unfair if they rule anything against Wilson.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:49:14 PM Eastern
    Happy we won. And happy Backstrom got the hattricksince he is my favorite player. But I am very pissed about the match penalty to Wilson. Which is a suspension unless it is reversed after being reviewed.
     I honestly feel the refs fucked this call up badly. We aren't just talking about this game. This is about Wilson's future. I hope they do the right thing and nothing happens from this.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:52:37 PM Eastern
     I hope they do the right thing and nothing happens from this.


Thanks, Maaco!  I needed a really good laugh tonight!  You think they care about "doing the right thing?"  When they can fuck 43?  LMFAO.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:54:59 PM Eastern
The idea that Wilson could get suspended for THAT when the guy who headslammed Oshie got $5K in fines is absolutely infuriating.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 09:57:50 PM Eastern
(https://washingtoncapitalsfanforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactichub.com%2Fcaps%2Fscoring_summary.gif&hash=a5539380153e9a0902e0b6fc1ce40d49d66becf2)

1st Period
03:51  GOAL 19-Bäckström, assists 8-Ovechkin & 6-Kempny   1-0 WSH

2nd Period
00:08  SH GOAL 43-Wilson, assists 2-Niskanen & 6-Kempny   2-0 WSH
09:23  Devils SH GOAL Zajac, assist Coleman   2-1 WSH

3rd Period
05:45  GOAL 65-Burakovsky, assists 6-Kempny & 19-Bäckström   3-1 WSH
10:57  PP GOAL 19-Bäckström, assists 92-Kuznetsov & 74-Carlson   4-1
12:35  Devils GOAL Hischier, unassisted   4-2 WSH
18:10  Devils GOAL Johansson, assists Hischier & Hall   4-3 WSH
18:30  EN GOAL 8-Ovechkin, unassisted   5-3 WSH
19:37  EN GOAL 19-Bäckström, assists 8-Ovechkin   6-3 WSH

FINAL:    6-3 WSH
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:03:12 PM Eastern

Thanks, Maaco!  I needed a really good laugh tonight!  You think they care about "doing the right thing?"  When they can fuck 43?  LMFAO.
    Glad I could make you laugh. I'm losing my shit. I am fucking furious about this BS. My wife is losing it too.
     That kid from the Devils embarrassed the refs with that dive. There wasnt a lot of contact but he went down like he got hit by a freight train. And he didn't miss a shift.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: apace41 on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:04:35 PM Eastern
    Glad I could make you laugh. I'm losing my shit. I am fucking furious about this BS. My wife is losing it too.
     That kid from the Devils embarrassed the refs with that dive. There wasnt a lot of contact but he went down like he got hit by a freight train. And he didn't miss a shift.


He missed one actually.  I think he was in the locker room accepting his Oscar.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:13:12 PM Eastern
Good comment by Reirdon - The way the team bounced back from that awrul, biased call on Wilson.  The team rallied, for sure.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:21:33 PM Eastern
Also, smart move to bring up the concussions on Kuzy and Oshie, that never even got a penalty at the time and were never reviewed, as far as I'm awarer.  Smart guy. :uh-huh:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:24:59 PM Eastern
Also, smart move to bring up the concussions on Kuzy and Oshie, that never even got a penalty at the time and were never reviewed, as far as I'm awarer.  Smart guy. :uh-huh:
    The guy that elbowed Kuzy did get a penalty on the play. Both if those plays were reviewed and neither got a suspension but Mirrisey did get a fine for slamming Oshie.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:27:16 PM Eastern

He missed one actually.  I think he was in the locker room accepting his Oscar.
    Well the Devils were on the pp for 5 mins. He isnt on there pp but he was on the ice right after the pp ended so he really didnt miss anything.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:28:11 PM Eastern
Good comment by Reirdon - The way the team bounced back from that awrul, biased call on Wilson.  The team rallied, for sure.
    What did Reirden say about the call in Wilson?
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:37:49 PM Eastern
caught Reirdens post game on the way home. He didn’t call out the officials but did say the call on Willy was bad, with emotion. Which is something this team has not had in the OV era. He said enough to not get fined by the league. With past coaches the question about bad calls was never asked, like the press was told don’t even ask.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:46:54 PM Eastern
    The guy that elbowed Kuzy did get a penalty on the play. Both if those plays were reviewed and neither got a suspension but Mirrisey did get a fine for slamming Oshie.
Ah!  You're right.  One got a measly peasly fine.  The minimum?  My apologies.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:50:50 PM Eastern
I’m also hearing the Shitsburgh press is having a field day with Willy. Don’t expect fair shake from them, ever
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:54:21 PM Eastern
    What did Reirden say about the call in Wilson?
He said it was incidental contact and that Willy tried to make himself look small to avoid the hit....or was that Alan May who said that?  Anyways, he did bring up the other two hits and said they were incomparable, I think.  He compared the incidents, but without going into the details of the other two, only about Willy's hit.  He said it was a bad decision and described it as he saw it - thus preparing his defence of his player. 
It was commendable.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Devise on Friday November 30, 2018, 10:57:09 PM Eastern
caught Reirdens post game on the way home. He didn’t call out the officials but did say the call on Willy was bad, with emotion. Which is something this team has not had in the OV era. He said enough to not get fined by the league. With past coaches the question about bad calls was never asked, like the press was told don’t even ask.


I know in this thread I mentioned that he'll likely get suspended but now I'm really curious if he will. I've seen just enough of a mixed bag of emotions regarding this, not just from the supposed "bias" of each fans side, but also just kind of league wide. I've seen some call it sneaky dirty, which I think is a somewhat fair argument. Consider the Steckel hit to Crosby at the Winter Classic. He's just stepping through him right, he's not looking at him, he's barely paying attention. But he gets close enough to him before contact is made when he didn't have to, and there was clearly room not to do that. The more I looked at that Steckel contact, especially given it was basically after a whistle? The more to me, it was at least a missed penalty call in the game.


That is not all to different to a situation with the Wilson call here. Except for of course Wilson was ejected from the game after a perceived injury, and the player later came back in the game. But when I watch the play more and see it develop, Wilson had 2 or 3 other better angles to the where the puck was going to go. And since it was clearly interference, Wilson did have a good chunk of time to make the best decision. Now whether he wanted to bump him and spin him around just to stay physical on his man? I don't know. Maybe he was just trying to take lane on him to the puck and overestimated how close he was to the player, and that he wouldn't just scoot by him once he moved his arm/leg. The thing is, and this is the thing that I can totally see why there is some outrage. It's easy to take the other lane on this and say instead of it being him trying to be clean and bump into him, he was trying to be dirty but undersell it by making it look like his intention was to avoid contact. Again, not that different than the Steckel play.


The reality for me though is that even after you get past intentions, how "dirty" a play is determined is generally by not just the consequences of the ice but what is happening, and if it can be argued to be in the spirit of play. It's why making note that this isn't a headshot is vitally important. Because it not being a headshot means that Wilson hitting him like that, even late, is still in the spirit of blocking a lane and preventing someone from getting to the lane to getting the puck. Which is to me what makes it a penalty in the contest, and not worthy of suspension. Sadly, because of the match penalty, it's probably going to make this whole thing worse. Regardless of how the league rules either. I think the best chance the league has of trying to mitigate some of the damage is to fine Wilson with no suspension, as that would leave both sides equally unhappy. But if they rule outright no suspension, or throw the book at him, it's going to throw fire on the long running debate of hitting versus no hitting in this game. It really feels like the modern games major issue, with the consistency of not just penalty calling but what is determined the allowed level of physicality of the sport and what is crossing the edge.


I'm never going to defend Wilson for the hit in the pre-season against St Louis. It was ugly. There was no excuse for it in really any context, the fact that it's pre-season, it was a headshot, etc. But to be honest that was really the only Wilson hit I ever outright "hated". I thought others were on the edge, but Wilson plays a heavy game and until that pre-season headshot I honestly never overly viewed him as dirty. Young and reckless? Yes. But seeing him transition his play since returning from suspension this season, it was funny because until the controversy tonight I'm sure most of us would probably argue Wilson looked exceptionally contained. Honestly the best word I'd use for his actual hockey play this season would of been mature. Which is a bummer why this has to come up again, and like I said pour fuel on this. But it's an issue that is clearly bigger than just Wilson. Any player who has the capacity to play even slightly over the edge is getting put under a microscope as the contigent of people who want to see the value of hitting lessened is just high. I know DC talks it all the time, but there is that group and it's getting larger, of people who want to see the game more about skill. More about the players making plays, etc.

Obviously I'm not on that side of things. But I do think Wilson happens to have a few hits in his history that are examples of hits that still cross the line, even in a league that I'd consider more physical. So yeah, I guess I'll ramble on here, sorry. Ultimately I'm really eager to see the leagues response to this, and how this narrative goes forward. It'd be nice to see this issue put to bed, and ideally the league take a good strong stance on allowing a safe, contained, physical brand of hockey. For as much as we've seen some bad hits, in general the last 4-5 seasons have seen a upward trend in intense hockey without cheap shots. Wilson got a couple of whatevers in the playoffs but playoff hockey still has been competitive and physical without seeming too aggressive or dirty. [/size][size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: BlackIce on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:04:37 PM Eastern
Back from the game.


The real star of this game was Holtby.  The defense hung him out to dry, over and over again.  NJ had at least half a dozen breakaways/2 on 1's that they managed well, and he stopped ALL of them.  When it was 4-2 Caps it could have just as easily been 6-4 NJ.  And the refs missed an egregious one where a NJ player stuck his stick right in Holtby's mask.


The call on Wilson was pure baloney.  I don't even think he hit the guy in the head, and NJ knew it.  You've seen guys try to engage Wilson on previous hits out of righteous indignation.  None of that this time.  NJ looked as though they didn't even realize what had happened.  And what was said previously -- Wilson hit the guy a glancing blow and he went down like a grand piano had fallen on him.  To be honest, I think the league is going to try to give him 50 games this time -- get him out of there basically for the rest of the regular season.


Nicky's 2nd goal was classic.  Everyone looking for him to pass, so they just let him skate in uncontested.  It really looks as though he could do that a lot more often on the PP.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:08:49 PM Eastern
I guess Wilson could of fell down to avoid him? Is that they expect him to do? He's a fairly big boy to be changing direction that fast. I think him trying to "look small" actually made it look worse/dirty.. I wouldn't think it was suspendable, so he'll probably get 5. lol
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:13:49 PM Eastern
  Apparently Seney was asked about the hit and said it was a hit to the shoulder. He said he didnt know if Wilson was trying to hit him or not.
    The little weasel sold it. He must have attended a Crosby hockey school. The more I watch it the more I think it was a very bad call. Not only because it shouldn't have been a penalty but because Wilson could end up getting suspended for something that didnt happen. This ref needs to swallow his pride and admit that he made a mistake.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:15:01 PM Eastern
I guess Wilson could of fell down to avoid him? Is that they expect him to do? He's a fairly big boy to be changing direction that fast. I think him trying to "look small" actually made it look worse/dirty.. I wouldn't think it was suspendable, so he'll probably get 5. lol
     Wilson should have taken a dive to draw an interference penalty.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:16:30 PM Eastern
The idea that Wilson could get suspended for THAT when the guy who headslammed Oshie got $5K in fines is absolutely infuriating.


The guy that head slammed Oshie got an $8500 fine the day after, but no in game penalty
 8)
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:17:38 PM Eastern
There's something that keeps nagging at me.
Semey's a young kid - 20, 22 years old?  He's a forward.  Why the hell is he skating backwards blindly, when the puck is on our boards?   :huh:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:28:59 PM Eastern
There's something that keeps nagging at me.
Semey's a young kid - 20, 22 years old?  He's a forward.  Why the hell is he skating backwards blindly, when the puck is on our boards?   :huh:
    He may have been trying to get himself into a better scoring position or he may have been trying to run interference on Wilson. Very unusual to be skating backwards there.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:30:04 PM Eastern



Isabelle Khurshudyan
@ikhurshudyan


[/size]Brett Seney on Wilson's hit on him: "It was more kind of back of my shoulder. I don't know if he was intending to do it or what. I haven't had the chance to look at it yet."[/color]


     Seney knew there was no head contact but he sold it.

Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: 4 Caps on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:31:22 PM Eastern
Just got back from the game and I have to say the Caps were very fortunate to win that game.  Holtby  stole that game.  The second period was one of the worse periods the Caps have played this season. 
As for the hit by Wilson, at most it was a 2 minute interference penaly.  No way should he be suspended.  There was no contact to the head so the match penalty should be rescinded.  Iknow I know we are talking about the DOPS so who knows what those clowns will come up with but I will be shocked if Wilson is suspended. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:33:15 PM Eastern
There's something that keeps nagging at me.
Semey's a young kid - 20, 22 years old?  He's a forward.  Why the hell is he skating backwards blindly, when the puck is on our boards?   :huh:


It doesn't happen much anymore because right now Willy is the only one in the league under a microscope. Even Marchand isn't scrutinized this much. Point is, other players will intentionally put themselves in compromising positions around Willy in an effort to get the call and get Willy off the ice, and for an extended period of time. Guys that intend to make a career of this game learn early on how to fool the zebras. It is the reason the league put in the diving rule, which is rarely called.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:35:45 PM Eastern
I'm watching On The Fly-NHL channel. The talking head that is calling Willys hit dirty is using camera angles that aren't even remotely close to what Willy would have seen as the play happened.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:36:53 PM Eastern
    He may have been trying to get himself into a better scoring position or he may have been trying to run interference on Wilson. Very unusual to be skating backwards there.
Yeah.  That's what I mean.  My Alzheimer's kicked in  :wackysmile:   and I can't remember what side of the blue line he was on.If he was in the middle 3rd, there's no way he should have been going backwards.   :huh:
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:39:17 PM Eastern

It doesn't happen much anymore because right now Willy is the only one in the league under a microscope. Even Marchand isn't scrutinized this much. Point is, other players will intentionally put themselves in compromising positions around Willy in an effort to get the call and get Willy off the ice, and for an extended period of time. Guys that intend to make a career of this game learn early on how to fool the zebras. It is the reason the league put in the diving rule, which is rarely called.
Sadly I think you're right.   :(
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:42:34 PM Eastern
but, other than the zebras ruining a game with a bad call, the Caps still won their 7th in a row. However, thanks to the zebras this game feels like anything but a win
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:47:19 PM Eastern
It does rather take the shine off it.  Especially as it was only Nicky's  second hat-trick.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:48:08 PM Eastern
Back from the game.


The real star of this game was Holtby.  The defense hung him out to dry, over and over again.  NJ had at least half a dozen breakaways/2 on 1's that they managed well, and he stopped ALL of them.  When it was 4-2 Caps it could have just as easily been 6-4 NJ.  And the refs missed an egregious one where a NJ player stuck his stick right in Holtby's mask.


The stick under Holtby's mask belonged to Eller I believe. It was definitely one of our guys. Both sticks were together and i could see how someone there without replay would see it as a Devils penalty.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:48:54 PM Eastern
Actually, it wasn't just that one call.  I think I said earlier that we've seen some very badly officiated games, but this was one of the worst.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:52:44 PM Eastern
The stick under Holtby's mask belonged to Eller I believe. It was definitely one of our guys. Both sticks were together and i could see how someone there without replay would see it as a Devils penalty.
    As much as I dislike Eller I have to defend him here. It was actually Djoos that got Holtby under the mask with his stick. Definitely our guy.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday November 30, 2018, 11:55:06 PM Eastern
    I'm curious if anyone here actually saw the butt end by the Devil player. I never did see it and they wouldnt show a replay. Did it even happen? Or was it a make up call for the bad call on Wilson?
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:01:53 AM Eastern
    I'm curious if anyone here actually saw the butt end by the Devil player. I never did see it and they wouldnt show a replay. Did it even happen? Or was it a make up call for the bad call on Wilson?
Nope. not me.  I was typing at the time anyway.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:03:00 AM Eastern
    I'm curious if anyone here actually saw the butt end by the Devil player. I never did see it and they wouldnt show a replay. Did it even happen? Or was it a make up call for the bad call on Wilson?

They never showed it. I never understood why they miss the opportunity to show the fans the infraction, even when they have extra time.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:05:37 AM Eastern
They never showed it. I never understood why they miss the opportunity to show the fans the infraction, even when they have extra time.
COS WE.RE THE CAPS LUV!  :raspberry:    :lmao: :uh-huh:   
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:09:08 AM Eastern
They never showed it. I never understood why they miss the opportunity to show the fans the infraction, even when they have extra time.
    Maybe it wasnt shown because there was nothing to see. A double minor is pretty serious. You would think they would show it.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:17:19 AM Eastern
Copy/paste     :raspberry:    :lmao: :uh-huh:   


Pretty sure the Caps, or Ted isn't in control of what the tv shows, or what the NHL control.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: ArJunaZ on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:20:12 AM Eastern
COS WE.RE THE CAPS LUV!  :raspberry:    :lmao: :uh-huh:

No, I'm talking about the Comcast production team dear. They  often frustrate me by failing to shine light on many penalties so we can see if they were warrantedd.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:22:20 AM Eastern
No, I'm talking about the Comcast production team dear. They  often frustrate me by failing to shine light on many penalties so we can see if they were warrantedd.
Are they not under the same instructions?
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:28:46 AM Eastern
Honestly, I'm really surprised there were not more chants of "refs, you suck"  during tonight's game.  Maybe comcast didn't want to show it because it was just too embarrassing?
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:29:49 AM Eastern
the NHL channel gave Backy the #1 star of the night for his 2nd career hat trick, which I could’ve sworn they said in house and in the post game that it was his 3rd
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:34:11 AM Eastern
the NHL channel gave Backy the #1 star of the night for his 2nd career hat trick, which I could’ve sworn they said in house and in the post game that it was his 3rd
Your Alzheimer's getting even worse than mine.  They said 2nd.   :P
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Surreylily on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:44:50 AM Eastern
Nighty night peeps.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: 4 Caps on Saturday December 01, 2018, 10:23:20 AM Eastern
No supplemental discipline for Wilson, so that is good news and the right decision.


In the arena they said it was Backstrom’s third hat trick but apparently one was in the post season so officially he only has two in the regular season.  Stats are based on the regular season. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: richkrt99 on Saturday December 01, 2018, 10:27:59 AM Eastern
No supplemental discipline for Wilson, so that is good news and the right decision.


In the arena they said it was Backstrom’s third hat trick but apparently one was in the post season so officially he only has two in the regular season.  Stats are based on the regular season.


Where did you here this?


And why is all the chatter on this hit in the wrong (Islanders) thread?

Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: richkrt99 on Saturday December 01, 2018, 10:42:54 AM Eastern
No supplemental discipline for Wilson, so that is good news and the right decision. 




I certainly hope that is true because the refs definitely got it wrong.  I'm not a conspiracy guy, but they "decided" it was a match penalty hit to the head after the refs huddled up.  If they didn't truly see it then how do you make that call?  If they did truly see it then how do you make that call?
Have they been instructed to call as much as possible at any given opportunity against Willie for payback.  Why would the league want to target him.  He could be a super NHL poster child....player who erred in his ways, got caught, took the punishment, changed his game as instructed and now is blossoming into a super star.  Instead they decide they want to be petty children and ruin a guys career?  Think what this bad call by the ref could cost Willy.  Willy did exactly as he has been instructed - make effort to avoid contact with the head.


Problem is even if the league decides no supplemental, doesn't the penalty call still stand?  Doesn't this have an impact with the call on your record....like later in the year if you receive another match penalty?


I know I'm a homer and more of an old school hockey kind of guy, but IMO Wilson did not try and hit the guy.  He DID try and minimize the contact.  He certainly did not target the guy.


I love Alan May's comment....in this league you might as well get rid of the equipment, the sticks, the puck..... :lol:


I will be amazed if the league does the right thing on this.  Can the rescind the match penalty call?  THis would be a wonderful opportunity for the NHL to recover some validity by doing the proper thing for Wilson, a guy they obviously have it out for.


What?  Did Willy sleep with Bettman's daughter or something?  OH!  SHIT!  I know what it was....Willy slept with Crosby's wife, didn't he?  :uh-huh:







Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: richkrt99 on Saturday December 01, 2018, 10:47:34 AM Eastern
I watched the game late so I could not comment during, but I expected a firestorm of activity on these boards this morning about the Willy penalty.


Geez...it's like you people have lives to live on Saturday or something.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: 4 Caps on Saturday December 01, 2018, 10:50:24 AM Eastern

Where did you here this?


And why is all the chatter on this hit in the wrong (Islanders) thread?


Isabelle is reporting that the Capitals have been informed by the league that Wilson will not have a hearing for further discipline.  It didn’t say that the match penalty is rescinded which they usually do and I assume that since there is no further hearing the automatic suspension is lifted.


This discussion is not in the Islander thread. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday December 01, 2018, 10:51:29 AM Eastern

Where did you here this?


And why is all the chatter on this hit in the wrong (Islanders) thread?
    I just saw it on a tweet from Bob Mackenzie. Sounds like it is true. Good news.
Because of the nature of this penalty call, meaning the match penalty that was assessed. It is an automatic suspension for Wilson unless reviewed by the league and it is decided it didn't deserve a suspension. If what Mackenzie says is true that means the league is admitting that the refs made a bad call.
     Officials should be held accountable for mistakes likes this. It has happened before. The league should have a hearing involving these officials.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: richkrt99 on Saturday December 01, 2018, 11:09:38 AM Eastern
    I just saw it on a tweet from Bob Mackenzie. Sounds like it is true. Good news.
Because of the nature of this penalty call, meaning the match penalty that was assessed. It is an automatic suspension for Wilson unless reviewed by the league and it is decided it didn't deserve a suspension. If what Mackenzie says is true that means the league is admitting that the refs made a bad call.
     Officials should be held accountable for mistakes likes this. It has happened before. The league should have a hearing involving these officials.


Well that would be good news.  The NHL should do the right thing.  I do not have a problem with Refs making mistakes - it happens.  Game is too fast to keep up with all ten guys at once and not miss something now and then.  I don't need a Ref apology - just "Yep, we missed, after seeing the replay, it was a bad call"


Willy still got to be careful.  This could have been catastrophic.


I do like that Rierdon spoke his mind and his point of view on it AND that he mentioned the Oshie/Kuzy incidents.



Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday December 01, 2018, 11:23:04 AM Eastern
    I can live with a missed call. I was a ref for years, you arent going tom see everything but you can't make up calls or make a call on something you didnt see. The officials could have watched a replay before deciding on giving him a match penalty. Ive seen it done before.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday December 01, 2018, 11:32:42 AM Eastern

Where did you here this?


And why is all the chatter on this hit in the wrong (Islanders) thread?

I asked the same question.. lol I think it's because Ice was so excited to post, he forgot to read any of the previous posts/realize he was in the wrong GDT..  :uh-huh:


Glad they got it right on the call.. I agree with Maaco, if they're allowed to review a replay before making that serious of a call, why not? Why isn't it mandatory to begin with? Game misconduct has to be on par (frequency) as goalie interference, offside/goals, etc.. The game is fast, on calls of that magnitude, use the damn technology and at least try to get it right on the ice..
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:17:31 PM Eastern
Honestly, I'm really surprised there were not more chants of "refs, you suck"  during tonight's game.  Maybe comcast didn't want to show it because it was just too embarrassing?


The crowd was quite vocal about the call on Willy, there was even extra event staff at the doors when the zebras exited/entered the ice at the end of the 2nd/start of the 3rd. Something I've not seen at the arena downtown, ever. The fans at Capitals and Nationals games are some of politest fans I've encountered, it is very common to have the home fans applaud the visitors when a significant career achievement is made. I remember when Iginla was in town with 499 career goals, there were quit a few of us that wanted to see him get his 500th, and that kind of thing happens all the time at Nats games. I think the Caps fans are getting a tad frustrated with the appearance of this team getting shafted by the league.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: alta on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:23:47 PM Eastern
I asked the same question.. lol I think it's because Ice was so excited to post, he forgot to read any of the previous posts/realize he was in the wrong GDT..  :uh-huh:


Glad they got it right on the call.. I agree with Maaco, if they're allowed to review a replay before making that serious of a call, why not? Why isn't it mandatory to begin with? Game misconduct has to be on par (frequency) as goalie interference, offside/goals, etc.. The game is fast, on calls of that magnitude, use the damn technology and at least try to get it right on the ice..


A reporter asked Reirden if he wanted a replay system on calls like this. He tentatively agreed, but he said he thinks it would slow down the game too much. No doubt it would, but I think it may be worth it when a players career is on the line. The review team in Toronto would need to be increased as well, with truly independant minds involved, which is a large part of the problem to begin with



Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: justwincaps on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:38:45 PM Eastern
To me, this is no different than targeting in college football.  Targeting [head-to-head contact] gets tou kicked out of the game.  Before they do that, they review the tape to make sure they are right.  Like hockey, college football can be a fast game and easy to miss shit.   Why doesn’t the NhL, before removing a player from a game and automatically suspend them until a review, give them the same benefit of the doubt college football gives its players?
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday December 01, 2018, 12:56:35 PM Eastern
To me, this is no different than targeting in college football.  Targeting [head-to-head contact] gets you kicked out of the game.  Before they do that, they review the tape to make sure they are right. 

Pretty sure basketball is the same way. Sports are just so fast these days it's too easy to miss important stuff.


A reporter asked Reirden if he wanted a replay system on calls like this. He tentatively agreed, but he said he thinks it would slow down the game too much.


On these type plays, the game is already slowed down because there's always some dude laying on the ice holding his face. (whether he actually takes a hit to the head or not, they're pussy programmed now to pretend they've been shot.)
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Saturday December 01, 2018, 01:45:51 PM Eastern
     Lol pussy programmed. You and Rush must me working together on some of these quotes.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: BlackIce on Saturday December 01, 2018, 03:13:25 PM Eastern

A reporter asked Reirden if he wanted a replay system on calls like this. He tentatively agreed, but he said he thinks it would slow down the game too much. No doubt it would, but I think it may be worth it when a players career is on the line. The review team in Toronto would need to be increased as well, with truly independant minds involved, which is a large part of the problem to begin with


AS LONG AS WE CAN TRUST THE NHL FRONT OFFICE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, it isn't hugely necessary to do an in-game review to protect a player's status.  It didn't help matters that Wilson was off the ice for the last period, but as long as the league agrees that nothing egregious happened, the worst that could have happened is that the Caps missed Wilson too much and they lost last night's game.  Actually, Wilson's penalty was as fortunate as it could have been in one regard -- it happened with 2+minutes left in the 2nd period, so the kill was little more than killing two 2-minute minors rather than having to kill off a 5-minute major in one stretch.




Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Mickstix on Saturday December 01, 2018, 05:01:09 PM Eastern

AS LONG AS WE CAN TRUST THE NHL FRONT OFFICE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, it isn't hugely necessary to do an in-game review to protect a player's status. 


Points/Games matter though.. I fully expected them to implode after Wilson left and they had to kill off 5 minutes w/o him. Thankfully they didn't!!
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Devise on Saturday December 01, 2018, 07:02:28 PM Eastern
Pretty sure basketball is the same way. Sports are just so fast these days it's too easy to miss important stuff.



On these type plays, the game is already slowed down because there's always some dude laying on the ice holding his face. (whether he actually takes a hit to the head or not, they're pussy programmed now to pretend they've been shot.)



To be fair to the Devil kid, he was like 150 lb's or some shit. Wilson hitting him in the shoulder with a brush by is like getting shot to him probably haha.


That said tough to argue with Todd here. I'd love to see some sort of challenge on penalties that sends the play up to a room full or retired refs who know what the fuck should go on in that situation, but the league has to word it in a way that allows refs to save face. The game has been taking more directly out of the hands of just the refs on the ice and nobody else though, and I think this is one of those things where I could see coaches using challenges on phantom plays. It would call out divers too, because if you challenge and the upstairs see's a dive on the play, they should be allowed to call that too.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Saturday December 01, 2018, 07:24:49 PM Eastern
I loved Alan May's reaction/comments.  It wasn't just the Wilson hit, it was how hockey has completely changed in the last 3 years.  It would be interesting to watch a normal Caps mid-season game from 5 years ago and count the hits.  Then, immediately watch a current game and count the hits.  The "hits" they count for stats today, wouldn't have been counted before.  Usually, there are maybe 2 or 3 true hits in a current game. Its become a ladies game.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: 4 Caps on Saturday December 01, 2018, 09:36:40 PM Eastern
I think before a player is assessed a match penalty the play should be reviewed period.  There are not that many match penalties handed out so I don’t see how requiring video review would slow down a game that much.  I really believe that if the refs in this case had looked at a video replay before making his call, Wilson would not have been given a match penalty.  The official would have seen thst there was no contact with the head. 
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Saturday December 01, 2018, 10:32:40 PM Eastern
Pretty sure basketball is the same way. Sports are just so fast these days it's too easy to miss important stuff.



On these type plays, the game is already slowed down because there's always some dude laying on the ice holding his face. (whether he actually takes a hit to the head or not, they're pussy programmed now to pretend they've been shot.)



Could not agree more Mick!
There is a lot of inherent delay, especially with the match penalty call.


First off, many times, the refs take up time, separating opposing players from each other, who may have attempted some retaliation, for the original infraction that is under consideration for penalty.


Secondly, then the refs usually meet up, in their little, safe, half-circle area, to discuss things, sorting out what is what. Sometimes the ref puts the offender in the penalty box, while referee discussions continue. Again, more time taken up.


Then, like you mentioned, Mick, a possible injured player on ice, gets medical attention, if needed, adding more game delay.
IF the match penalty is affirmed, offending player is oft times escorted by the ref, then we have the delay that occurs while coaches get explanations, as to the circumstances of the decision.


Add in a possible network decision to then take a commercial break, and you’ve got PLENTY of time for a Toronto review. Certainly no worse than the goalie interference stuff!!  And a match penalty doesn’t happen THAT often!!
Still relieved that DOPS got it right!


Rush







Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: PUCKNRUSH on Saturday December 01, 2018, 10:36:20 PM Eastern
I loved Alan May's reaction/comments.  It wasn't just the Wilson hit, it was how hockey has completely changed in the last 3 years.  It would be interesting to watch a normal Caps mid-season game from 5 years ago and count the hits.  Then, immediately watch a current game and count the hits.  The "hits" they count for stats today, wouldn't have been counted before.  Usually, there are maybe 2 or 3 true hits in a current game. Its become a ladies game.


BIG AMEN ON THAT BEAGS!!!👍
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: DC_1908 on Sunday December 02, 2018, 09:36:20 AM Eastern
I loved Alan May's reaction/comments.  It wasn't just the Wilson hit, it was how hockey has completely changed in the last 3 years.  It would be interesting to watch a normal Caps mid-season game from 5 years ago and count the hits.  Then, immediately watch a current game and count the hits.  The "hits" they count for stats today, wouldn't have been counted before.  Usually, there are maybe 2 or 3 true hits in a current game. Its become a ladies game.
We clearly atent the only ones noticing




Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: DC_1908 on Sunday December 02, 2018, 09:39:57 AM Eastern

We clearly atent the only ones noticing that

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrvzrOQW4AIOH4j?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Sunday December 02, 2018, 12:18:22 PM Eastern
We clearly atent the only ones noticing that

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrvzrOQW4AIOH4j?format=jpg&name=small)
    Do you think this is directly related to the change in the game?
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: DC_1908 on Sunday December 02, 2018, 03:09:38 PM Eastern
    Do you think this is directly related to the change in the game?
It absolutely is.   A significant part of the changes are designed to appease NBC suits and/or where a bargaining  condition with the NBC contract, which convienatly goes along with Bettmans Vitrue Manifesto, to make the NHL “more family friendly-prime time appropriate”, and go along with the Feminism “Woke” trend, to appeal to a mainstream audience.


As the data clearly shows, it’s not working, and if having the opposite effect.


If NBC doesn’t reup, or even bails out of this contract because of bad ratings, . . . heads should roll
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: Maacoshark on Sunday December 02, 2018, 03:24:30 PM Eastern
It absolutely is.   A significant part of the changes are designed to appease NBC suits and/or where a bargaining  condition with the NBC contract, which convienatly goes along with Bettmans Vitrue Manifesto, to make the NHL “more family friendly-prime time appropriate”, and go along with the Feminism “Woke” trend, to appeal to a mainstream audience.


As the data clearly shows, it’s not working, and if having the opposite effect.


If NBC doesn’t reup, or even bails out of this contract because of bad ratings, . . . heads should roll
   I feel the exact same way. True hockey fans dont want the physical play taken out of the game.
Title: Re: GDT#25 Devils @ Capitals 7:00 p.m. Fri Nov 30, 2018 NBCSWA+, NHLN-US, TVAS, MSG+
Post by: DC_1908 on Sunday December 02, 2018, 03:53:31 PM Eastern
   I feel the exact same way. True hockey fans dont want the physical play taken out of the game.
Nor do most new fans. 


Besides, if physical play removed from the game would sell so well, the stands of rec leagues would be packed for  every 10pm Sunday night game wouldn’t they?


Also why doesnt college hockey get the same coverage as football or basketball?


And why doesn’t international hockey get almost any coverage?


The style of hockey the wanna push, simply does not sell