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Pavel095:
Johanssen traded to Bruins..
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Monday February 25, 2019, 03:28:03 PM Eastern ---Yep, ol' Burt timed that warm streak perfectly.. No way they were trading him on an up swing.. He might actually be "getting it" now!! :uh-huh: :rofl:
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DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Pavel095 on Monday February 25, 2019, 04:18:51 PM Eastern ---Johanssen traded to Bruins..
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Shieiiiiiiit, . . . They are gonna be NASTY
BlackIce:
--- Quote from: justwincaps on Monday February 25, 2019, 03:45:23 PM Eastern ---Jim Rutherford traded for Gudbranson from Vancouver - Tom Wilson has to be in the back of Rutherford's mind. Gudbranson is one tough hombre. Impressive list of "wins" on hockeyfights.com
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Gudbranson is an interesting character, to say the least. He was the 3rd pick in the 2010 draft, by FLA. In 6 full years plus parts of 2 others in the NHL he has never averaged less than 17;59 TOI, has averaged over 20 MPG twice, so he has been PLAYED as a top-6 forward, time wise. He has scored in double digits in points only once in his career, has never had double digits in either goals or assists, and is a career -97 +/-. He has had plenty of opportunity to play and has never made anything of it. Now you can say he's been part of not-so-good teams, but when you are a #3 pick you are supposed to be one of the guys who helps pull your team out of mediocrity. Everything suggests that the man simply doesn't have the skills.
I suspect that if he were our player, he would have been pushed into the volcano years ago, with a tremendous uproar about what a waste of a #3 draft pick. WHY has this man been given all this ice time?? Tom Wilson, when he was cast as a 4th line tough guy, did better than THAT in half the ice time.
The current pick for volcano on the Caps is Burakovsky, a #24 pick I believe. In reality, for the Caps he is probably sort of their version of Brett Connolly pre-Caps -- and Connolly was a #6 pick when he was drafted. Connolly is a career +1 +/-, and Burakovsky is a career +27 so far. This has been the first year that Burakovsky has been a negative +/-, which suggests that, at least defensively, he is probably not a huge liability. And to my eyes at least, he isn't. He is reasonably disciplined on defense without the puck, back checks pretty well (though with finesse, not strength), and his +/- performance seems to dovetail with that. The complaint with Burakovsky seems to be predominantly on the offensive end, and I will admit it is pretty frustrating to watch. People ask why he hasn't been banished to the bench or better yet, to some other team. It may be that he has been competent enough defensively that the team continues to wait for him to break out offensively, realizing that at worst, he isn't costing them an arm and a leg defensively.
OOPS -- correction. Burakovsky was a #23 pick.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Tuesday February 26, 2019, 08:38:52 AM Eastern ---
Gudbranson is an interesting character, to say the least. He was the 3rd pick in the 2010 draft, by FLA. In 6 full years plus parts of 2 others in the NHL he has never averaged less than 17;59 TOI, has averaged over 20 MPG twice, so he has been PLAYED as a top-6 forward, time wise. He has scored in double digits in points only once in his career, has never had double digits in either goals or assists, and is a career -97 +/-. He has had plenty of opportunity to play and has never made anything of it. Now you can say he's been part of not-so-good teams, but when you are a #3 pick you are supposed to be one of the guys who helps pull your team out of mediocrity. Everything suggests that the man simply doesn't have the skills.
I suspect that if he were our player, he would have been pushed into the volcano years ago, with a tremendous uproar about what a waste of a #3 draft pick. WHY has this man been given all this ice time?? Tom Wilson, when he was cast as a 4th line tough guy, did better than THAT in half the ice time.
The current pick for volcano on the Caps is Burakovsky, a #24 pick I believe. In reality, for the Caps he is probably sort of their version of Brett Connolly pre-Caps -- and Connolly was a #6 pick when he was drafted. Connolly is a career +1 +/-, and Burakovsky is a career +27 so far. This has been the first year that Burakovsky has been a negative +/-, which suggests that, at least defensively, he is probably not a huge liability. And to my eyes at least, he isn't. He is reasonably disciplined on defense without the puck, back checks pretty well (though with finesse, not strength), and his +/- performance seems to dovetail with that. The complaint with Burakovsky seems to be predominantly on the offensive end, and I will admit it is pretty frustrating to watch. People ask why he hasn't been banished to the bench or better yet, to some other team. It may be that he has been competent enough defensively that the team continues to wait for him to break out offensively, realizing that at worst, he isn't costing them an arm and a leg defensively.
OOPS -- correction. Burakovsky was a #23 pick.
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Because he does things that aren’t on stat sheets. Probably no power play time to pad his stats, on teams, and a bad +/- as his role has him start in the defensive zone to clear the crease and block shots, not play woman’s rules hockey. If he played knowledgeable fans who say we are missing this skill set would love him, and the naive fans would sight stats and how he doesn’t play woman’s rules, desipote us not giving up 4 goals every 3 or so games.
And Buras AND Connelly’s stats are not good enough for 100 ft players, despite being padded. Why did loose his spot to Varna? Being as he’s a “natural center” why isn’t he iplayonf center and at a >50% win percentage? Why isn’t he on the PK and doing good enough to bring it kill percentage >85%? Because he’s NOT FUCKIN GOOD ENOUGH!!! He’s a bust that should of been traded 3yrs ago as me and many people said.
Oh and why he’s still here, GMBetaMale said he could only get draft picks, and felts he could get more for him in the off-season, (like we don’t need picks or couldn’t use those picks to get Bassard or Simmons or anything), and “keep the band together”.
For a statistician, you should know how hockey stats work and how read them
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