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G43 Sharks @ Capitals 12:30pm Sun Jan 5, 2020 NBCSWA+, NHLN, SN, TVAS, FS-CR
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: alta on Sunday January 05, 2020, 09:07:50 PM Eastern ---it was a nice comeback, but I gotta say, a Norris candidate doesn’t throw the puck over the glass with 5:00 when you’re trying to tie the game
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Good point Alta!
Carlson has many good qualities, and has worked hard to increase his value for this team, no doubt!
But I’m talking about him FINALLY, getting the chicken-shit, pussy part of him, EXPOSED!! A part of him that he most fervently, cleverly, and with marked intention, tries desperately to keep from being discovered!!
Other than improving his offensive skills, (yes, that’s a pure compliment!), I believe there’s nothing more he works harder on, than masterfully hiding his wimpy side!!
Carlson muffed that puck because he was scared, and intimidated, by the skater closing in on him from behind! Or his perception of that!
His mentality of natural reluctance, and over-avoidance of physicality, was highlighted here!
Mind you, this is a rare and difficult thing to catch, obviously, due to the exact timing of the circumstances, BUT, we were able to see Carly in the RAW, this time!
With no time for him to think of a way to make it appear differently!
We saw Carly have a “panic-driven”, brain fart, of a puck clearing or pass! Worse than that, is that it wasn’t even like he was going to get hit HARD or anything! He wasn’t in any imminent danger of real harm!!
But his pussy ass didn’t perceive it that way, and therein lies the issue!!!
And for the millionth time, I KNOW he is an invaluable player on our team! The point I’m making here has NOTHING to do with that!
It does have something to do with the fact that when the “physicality”, rubber meets the road, this motherfucker of a defenseman, selfishly looks out for himself, NOT the team!
Not sure?
Let’s just add in the countless number of “panic-driven”, icing passes he commits, in those games where we have a 1, or even 2 goal lead, in the last 1 or 2 minutes.
The opponent is playing 6 on 5, in OUR, zone, THERE IS AN EMPTY NET, and Carlson gets a puck rebound, from Holtz, somewhere randomly behind the goal line in our zone.
Carlsen actually has time and space, to pass safely to one of our guys, but in the hurried moment, in HIS mind, he makes an UNNECESSARY, knee-jerk type, clearing pass, that goes all the way down to the other end for icing.
This ends up stopping the clock, OUR GUYS can’t leave the ice, and the puck is brought back down to the face-off circle in OUR zone!!
The opponent, then gets to put out their FRESHEST, and talented six guys, against our ever-tiring, five guys, left to defend in our zone!
THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!! It’s way too familiar of a scenario, and often, multiple times in a game by Mr. Carlson, singularly!
AND, it’s been happening since, like, forever, which means that even if it’s been addressed, repeatedly over the many years, HE doesn’t change it!
THAT, my friends, is one SELFISH son of a bitch!
He may be charitable in his personal life, and God bless him for that, but not, I repeat, NOT as a member of the CAPS team , IMO!!
And all we hear out of Joe and Lockers yap, is “JOHN CARLSON”, this....(insert kiss-ass complement, here), or “JOHN CARLSON”, that.....(insert more ass-lick praise)!!
Truth is, he’s deserving of much of it!! But these three must be “closet buddies”, off the clock, with the way they endlessly gush over the guy!!! It’s sickening sometimes!
Now, I don’t waste a nano second, fully admitting his true good value to the team, and allowing myself to appreciate his contributions!!
But it’s the FRAUD, he covertly attempts, trying to convince the cameras, that he’s just on the verge of getting into a fight, or some other fake-ass yelling tirade, cleverly backed off of, at just the right time.... that allows me to appreciate the rare moment, when this, 6’3”, 215 lb. defenseman, and his deep, internal, pussification of the brain, actually gets exposed for what it is, once in a while!👍
Damn Alta, you got my motor started!!😂🤣
Rush
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: ArJunaZ on Monday January 06, 2020, 12:09:15 AM Eastern ---When I saw that I cut him a lot of slack. Kane had just grabbed Carlson a split second before and Meier railed him into the boards one millisecond after he released the puck. Kane was hitting him with his stick from behind as he flung the puck and the only reason he let go was because Carlson elbowed him. I'd call it under extreme duress. I actually thought they might not call the penalty because contact had been made between Carlson and Meier almost as the puck left his stick. The question is why he was behind our goal all alone with two Sharks. There were dumber penalties taken by the Caps in this game.
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Hey AJ!
Well, I posted my post, (angry rant), BEFORE seeing your post!😁
My point is, I’ve learned to respect your “eyes”, over the time I’ve been on this board!
I did not see any replays of Carlsons delay of game penalty, except the quick repeat during the game telecast! I made my judgments about it based on my memory of it.
I’m going to go try and find a replay of it again, in order to take a closer look, as you have a history of seeing things pretty clearly, IMO.
If that kind of contact happens, that you describe against Carlson, when he has the puck, then I’ll have no problem admitting my mistake, here! ( after all it was a pretty long rant! ) !! LOL 😆
I’ll leave the possibility open that my brain may still be stained, and I may be seeing what I want!
( but it sure fucking fits the old narrative though, you gotta admit!) 😂🤣😂
Thanks AJ........(to be continued)👍
Rush
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ArJunaZ:
I found the game still available on livestream and recorded a couple segments off my screen with my phone. I think it came out pretty good.
Here is the Carlson delay of game penalty.
I'm not going to say he couldn't have done better, but he was under some pressure there.
ArJunaZ:
THIS VIDEO WAS RE-UPLOADED FOR BETTER QUALITY
I captured this 10 minute clip of the last and best parts of the Capitals' historic win over the Sharks. It's hand held and jumps around a bit as I try to skip commercials on the fly. I figured we could use a video record of this historic moment.
BlackIce:
This will probably not get me a whole lot of love around here, but I'm going to come to John Carlson's defense.
As for Carlson's delay of game penalty, this was not a panic move on his part. Carlson moves the puck around the boards when he's caught behind the net to try to start a clear when he can't do it himself by using the boards and glass. And Carlson has been in the league long enough to understand the timing of NHL hockey plays. He know's he's going to get hit by Meier whether or not he releases the puck, because Meier is too close - Carlson is fair game for contact even a split second after release. What he DOES do by releasing the puck is get it up ice to where his teammates have a 4 on 3 manpower advantage. The most likely alternative, when being hounded 2 on 1, is giving up the puck in the defensive zone, earning Chicago more zone time at a point in the game where time is starting to become a factor.
Carlson didn't try to shoot the puck out to the rink there; he simply tried to play it off the glass and up the side, and got too much air under the puck. Maybe the puck flipped on him at the last millisecond or something -- I don't know. The issue here wasn't Carlson's attitude, it was his execution.
As for the extended rant about icing the puck when defending a 6 on 5 coming down the stretch, interesting you should mention that. It is EXACTLY what San Jose did after Vrana's goal, bringing the Caps back to the offensive zone for the play that set up Oshie's tying goal. Teams do it all the time, especially in the last minute of the game when protecting a 1-goal lead. Get the puck out of the zone at any and all costs, with the worst case being that some seconds are eaten up while the opponents chase the puck (since they are crowding the offensive zone anyway), and your presumed best defenders on the ice get a bit of a break while the puck is being retrieved. Don't forget, in the last minute of play you probably have your best defenders on the ice anyway, and they're going to stay out there until the horn sounds, so continuous play while the clock keeps running isn't always your best friend. And I cannot tell you how many times someone doesn't clear the zone when they have a clear shot at lambasting the puck, tries to make a play into the zone somewhere, the puck ends up NOT leaving the zone because the opponents are pressuring everything due to the game situation, and the opponents turn around and score it.
It is easy for us to criticize moves made by an NHL player while seated above it all. Things (1) look different when you are on the ice surface; and (2) are commonly supported by the player's experience of the best tactic having been through situations like this hundreds or thousands of times, as well as the organization's preference of what is to be done in such situations. If John Carlson weren't doing what the organization wanted during the last stages of the game, he wouldn't be on the ice in the last stages of the game. Think I'm kidding myself? Look how much time Ovechkin spends on the ice in such situations. Ovechkin's skill set is not good for protecting a late lead, so he doesn't see much ice time in those situations. Often times, Eller or someone like Dowd takes his place when Ovie's line mates are on the ice in those situations, giving the Caps better defense and two centers on face-offs in case one is thrown out of a face-off.
Carlson is not Wilson, or even Gudas. What he is, is a generally effective NHL defender who, because of his overall skill set, is recognized as one of the top defenders in the league, by people who know a lot more about the game than we do.
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