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Nicky v Holts
alta:
--- Quote from: zerofox on Wednesday January 01, 2020, 12:58:33 PM Eastern ---
I think that's just more of an argument in favor of Sammy. He's already got better stats than Holts this year. Granted yes he's unproven over the long term. But Holts is near a .90 SV% and 3.0 GAA. Sammy is around .92 SV% and 2.3 GAA. I'd rather have the guy playing a bit better.
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that’s not a good comparison when one goalie has played 20 more games than the other, it also does not account for nights when the D sucks ass, which they have for this recent stretch of goals against
zerofox:
--- Quote from: alta on Wednesday January 01, 2020, 01:23:28 PM Eastern ---
that’s not a good comparison when one goalie has played 20 more games than the other, it also does not account for nights when the D sucks ass, which they have for this recent stretch of goals against
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Holts has played 29 games to Sammy's 14. Holtby's games played is enough to be considered a decent sample set. .90 SV% and 3.0 GAA is not good, period. Sammy hasn't played quite enough games to be confident that his performance is sustainable, but it's already been way better than where Holts is at. Holtby's stats are NOT NHL goalie caliber at all. And yeah our D sucks sometimes, but I'm not willing to buy that our D sucks only when Holtby plays lol.
I'm not saying Sammy is 100% capable of carrying us on his shoulders to another Cup. But based on his play so far, he deserves more starts. Instead we're forcing Holtby in just because he's the incumbent and has accolades to his name, but his performance is clearly not very good. If you had 39 year old Brodeur and a young goalie who was performing better, who would you start?
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: zerofox on Wednesday January 01, 2020, 01:51:54 PM Eastern ---
Holts has played 29 games to Sammy's 14. Holtby's games played is enough to be considered a decent sample set. .90 SV% and 3.0 GAA is not good, period. Sammy hasn't played quite enough games to be confident that his performance is sustainable, but it's already been way better than where Holts is at. Holtby's stats are NOT NHL goalie caliber at all. And yeah our D sucks sometimes, but I'm not willing to buy that our D sucks only when Holtby plays lol.
I'm not saying Sammy is 100% capable of carrying us on his shoulders to another Cup. But based on his play so far, he deserves more starts. Instead we're forcing Holtby in just because he's the incumbent and has accolades to his name, but his performance is clearly not very good. If you had 39 year old Brodeur and a young goalie who was performing better, who would you start?
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It’s not as so much as Holts vs Sammy. . . It’s a matter of GMBetaMale using EA Sports to do the salary cap.
The “optimists” are thinking Sammy is the next “hot rookie/young superstar goalie” like The Hens and Blues had. Which is not only a major risk after he’s made a starter, but the risk is the following years.
What fixes everything is to get rid of “number 2 center” that has one of the worst contracts in the league. Ideally by trade, or just leave him up and see if Seattle takes him.
That 8 mil fixes the Backstrom/Holts issue, cap issue, and goes a long way to fixing the faceoffs, turnover, Hockey IQ and effort issues
Ozzies09tc:
I voted other bc it all depends on how GMBM structures the contracts.
Nicky may not ask for 10 nor is he worth it. 10/yr is for your game changers-cant live without players, if which I dont believe Nicky nor Holtbeast are worth.
Say they both take team friendly deals for 7 or 7.5 a piece...thats do-able
alta:
--- Quote from: zerofox on Wednesday January 01, 2020, 01:51:54 PM Eastern ---
Holts has played 29 games to Sammy's 14. Holtby's games played is enough to be considered a decent sample set. .90 SV% and 3.0 GAA is not good, period. Sammy hasn't played quite enough games to be confident that his performance is sustainable, but it's already been way better than where Holts is at. Holtby's stats are NOT NHL goalie caliber at all. And yeah our D sucks sometimes, but I'm not willing to buy that our D sucks only when Holtby plays lol.
I'm not saying Sammy is 100% capable of carrying us on his shoulders to another Cup. But based on his play so far, he deserves more starts. Instead we're forcing Holtby in just because he's the incumbent and has accolades to his name, but his performance is clearly not very good. If you had 39 year old Brodeur and a young goalie who was performing better, who would you start?
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Holts is not the reason this team is losing right now, nor is he the reason everyone in front of him is playing like shit. But he is part of the reason this team is still in first place. Are you part of the lockerrroom staff? I ask because you seem to know more about what's going on than the rest of us. Like who's forcing the decision to play Holts over Samsonov. He is, and did earn the #1 spot. I see no reason to take that from him at this point. Especially when looking at how the rest of the team has played in the last 5 games. Maybe we should bench the team and tell Hershey to send everyone.
I'm not ready to upset the ship just yet. We know the flu is going through the lockerrroom right now, and it could be another week before everyone is back to normal. This team hasn't given their normal hard physical game in the last three, and the decision making in the ice has been atrocious. I know the flu effects me similarly, when I feel one coming on the motorcycle gets parked and the American Express stays in the safe. Usually for about a week. Multiply that by 30 people and it's going to take longer.
Personally, I don't see any $10M a year goalies in this league, and if the salary cap doesn't go up significantly in the next two years those contracts are going bite some teams in the ass. Worse than what the Caps are dealing with.
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