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Nicky v Holts

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zerofox:

--- Quote from: Surreylily on Tuesday December 31, 2019, 10:45:53 PM Eastern ---
We spent  a lot of ime wihout nicky earier this year and we did more than okay.

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We also have done quite well with Sammy instead of Holtby, or Gruby instead of Holtby when he was struggling. I'm not saying we totally suck without Backy, but he's a big part of the team, he's a great player, and we just gotta keep the guy around because of what he means to the team and fans.

DC_1908:

--- Quote from: zerofox on Tuesday December 31, 2019, 11:38:30 PM Eastern ---
We also have done quite well with Sammy instead of Holtby, or Gruby instead of Holtby when he was struggling. I'm not saying we totally suck without Backy, but he's a big part of the team, he's a great player, and we just gotta keep the guy around because of what he means to the team and fans.

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We would totally suck without Backy if we let him walk.  He is our most complete player and easily in the top 10, maybe top 5 centers in the league.  His stats have gone down not because of age, but of the massive other roles he’s had to taken on brilliantly.


He’s our top face off and defensive center, has babysitted the young forwards, and plays in all situations (5-5,3-3, PP, PK etc).  This has caused a drop in his stats, but his all around ability to execute all of these roles at an elite level are a major contribution to every win.


There is simply not enough depth for his all around skill sets on the team or in the system to replace what he does, even with two or three players for several years at best

RavenCp:
Samsonov's development is on track, we should play him more and if he is doing great, then we are less depended on Holtby.   

RavenCp:
Goalie is the most important player, but I always against goalie's super expensive contracts. Why? So many teams were burn by those contracts, from Luango, Bryz, etc. For some reasons, they just don't shine for multiple years. 

zerofox:

--- Quote from: RavenCp on Wednesday January 01, 2020, 11:43:52 AM Eastern ---Goalie is the most important player, but I always against goalie's super expensive contracts. Why? So many teams were burn by those contracts, from Luango, Bryz, etc. For some reasons, they just don't shine for multiple years.

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I think that's just more of an argument in favor of Sammy. He's already got better stats than Holts this year. Granted yes he's unproven over the long term. But Holts is near a .90 SV% and 3.0 GAA. Sammy is around .92 SV% and 2.3 GAA. I'd rather have the guy playing a bit better.

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