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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #40 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:28:02 AM Eastern »

Cool vid!!


 I believe I saw a faded #74 on its abdomen!!😂🤣


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I'm not really that down on Carlson for the not fighting thing. Some guys are obviously not cut out  for it.  I call them gentle lentils.
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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #41 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:34:24 AM Eastern »
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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #42 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:36:14 AM Eastern »
 I thought Kuznetsov score of the ENG also.
 Looks like it was Willy!


That was actually an excellent shot
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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #43 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:36:31 AM Eastern »
:cw:



1st Period
04:36  GOAL 74-Carlson, unassisted   1-0 WSH
13:27  GOAL 74-Carlson, assists 77-Oshie & 20-Eller   2-0 WSH

2nd Period
None

3rd Period
03:20  Kings GOAL Lizotte unassisted   2-1 WSH
18:41  EN GOAL 43-Wilson, unassisted   3-1 WSH

FINAL:    3-1 WSH
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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #44 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:37:17 AM Eastern »
 Good win, AGAIN!
 Thanks, as always, AJ, for the GDT!👍
 Good night everyone 


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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #45 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:38:29 AM Eastern »
Good night guys!

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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #46 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:39:40 AM Eastern »
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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #47 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:40:07 AM Eastern »
Solid win! Night folks!

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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #48 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:41:56 AM Eastern »
In yellow, of course!
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I'm not really that down on Carlson for the not fighting thing. Some guys are obviously not cut out  for it.  I call them gentle lentils.


Probably wouldn’t bother me as much either, if he didn’t try to get an Oscar,  for appearing like he wants to fight!! 😆😆


 Here we go again, with Rob Carlin!!  I swear I’m gonna mail that guy a photo chopped, nude photo of John Carlson,  with some fake sticky stuff on it!!!
 I’m sure he’ll think it’s a Christmas present from a fan !!
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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #49 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:49:42 AM Eastern »

Probably wouldn’t bother me as much either, if he didn’t try to get an Oscar,  for appearing like he wants to fight!! 😆😆


 Here we go again, with Rob Carlin!!  I swear I’m gonna mail that guy a photo chopped, nude photo of John Carlson,  with some fake sticky stuff on it!!!
 I’m sure he’ll think it’s a Christmas present from a fan !!

Make sure you add REALLY HEAVY eye liner on John Carlson's photo.

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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #50 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:53:40 AM Eastern »
I actually met Rob Carlin last year in PWC lounge,  during intermission at a game!
Nice guy,  but yes, the male make up was very heavy!
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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #51 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 08:39:44 AM Eastern »
#Johnny4norris   :snicker: Laugh all you want, but he's the front runner at the moment..  :uh-huh:   :raspberry:

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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #52 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 11:03:37 AM Eastern »
Hey folks!


Rush, (aka molasses thumbs), here, attempting to keep pace on the GDT!


In the heavily popular, “lip service” world, that NHL coaches have to play in occasionally, with the media, It is so cool to witness, in real time, evidence, proving that an aspect of something they’ve been working on has now began to bear fruit!!


Enter coach Rierden, and his declaration, during preseason this year, that the coaches would be working with John Carlson on his offensive skills!!


 A few seasons ago, had I witnessed a goal similar to John Carlson‘s 2nd goal tonight, I would’ve blabbed on about what a crappy defenseman when he was, and spouted off something  along the lines of “even a blind squirrel, gets a nut sometimes”,  or any other analogy that would fit!!


Simply put, John Carlson has obviously put the time in, AND Rierden had the foresight to make the call, to allow special training time at practice, for it to happen!!


Hands down, this training has really paid off!!
 In my opinion, I don’t think there’s anyway JOHN Carlson would have made that kind of quick, and coordinated move, to make that goal, just a couple seasons ago!! NO WAY!!


 Kudos to both Rierden, and Carly for a nicely coordinated job well done!!!


(Ok, he’s still a defensive pussy, BUT THATS NOT THE POINT)!!😁😆😁😆


 Every month, John Carlson continues to show the value he is to this team!


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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #53 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 11:16:01 AM Eastern »
Well, as usual, I started watching the game late.....20m or so after actual start and caught up by the end of the first.


Caps look sharp in the first....that's about all I can say as I slept through the rest.


I see the Carlson for Norris campaign is now in full swing.  Only a matter of time I guess.


I'm not knocking Johhny, he has improved his overall game and certainly is having a record season of offense so kudos to him.  I realize the game is changing and you need puck moving D men who score, but we need a different trophy for the most offensive d-man, then one that claims the best DEFENSEMEN


Wonder what guys like Rod Langway feel about o-guys like Johhny Q leading the pack for the Norris.




I think I'd really be okay with calling Johhny Q "the most offensive Dman in the league"   :snicker:


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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #54 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 12:49:31 PM Eastern »

 I’m definitely with you on that, Alta!


The scary reality though, with todays’ NHL, It’s not like the Norris goes to the guy with the most hits, or blocked shots, or takeaways, anymore.  It’s getting more like he just has to have the title of “defenseman“.  Whether he’s a fourth forward or not.
 Offensive points matter, for the Norris trophy! Now isn’t that a paradox??


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Rich just said what I'm thinking. There should be two different trophy's for dmen, like the Rocket and Hart for forewards. The Norris goes to the leagues top defenseman. I don't expect a top defenseman to have a lot of points/goals. Johnnys game has definitely improved, but on the offensive side more than the defensive side. If he weren't scoring would he still be getting all this praise from the media? Or would he be scorned for being an overpaid dman
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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #55 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 02:22:52 PM Eastern »
The idea that Carlson is simply an offensive defenseman is not true.  If he is so bad defending why does Rierden have him out there at the end of games when the Caps are protecting a 1 goal lead?  The fact is that Carlson is solid defensively, he is rarely out of position and you never see him get beat by an onrushing forward.  He is very good at tying up opposing players sticks and neutralizing them.  While he may not throw a lot of hits he is one of the leaders in blocking shots.  He is a good all around defenseman and the Caps are fortunate to have him. 

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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #56 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 02:53:12 PM Eastern »
I didn't say he was a bad dman, I said he's not a Norris candidate dman
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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #57 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 03:10:48 PM Eastern »
The Norris trophy is given to the best all around defenseman.  IMO he certainly quailfies as one of the best all around defenseman.  I will wait to the end of the season before I say who I think should win it but certainly at this point in the season Carlson is the leading candidate. 

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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #58 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 04:56:21 PM Eastern »
The Norris trophy is given to the best all around defenseman.  IMO he certainly quailfies as one of the best all around offensive defenseman.  I will wait to the end of the season before I say who I think should win it but certainly at this point in the season Carlson is the leading candidate....for "the most Offensive defensemen"


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Re: G30 Capitals @ Kings 10:00pm Wed Dec 4, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, SN, FS-W
« Reply #59 on: Thursday December 05, 2019, 05:28:48 PM Eastern »
Just being a smartass BTW in my previous post.


Carlson had long been on my shit/trade list because he was so friggin marshmallow and seemingly stoned 24/7 in both his play and overall demeanor.   I believed he should have been traded while his trade value was way higher than his actual team value (in years past)
I will admit (and have begrudgingly stated many times over the last several seasons) he has radically improved his play in the last 3, 4 seasons, improving each year in both his offensive and defensive play.  He used to be at best an average dman with some offensive skills.  Through coaching or work ethic or study or maturity or combination of all, he certainly has improved his overall game on both the offensive and defensive sides.  I have actually even seen him play with more physical edge than years past.  Although I believe this year is somewhat of an anomaly, he has become one of the best offensive dmen in the league.


I personally don't feel that makes him a candidate for the Norris trophy.  I realize in today's standards that simply based on his offensive output, he will be a front runner in the Norris discussion.
However, call me old school or stubborn or whatnot, but I do not believe he is the leagues "TOP PLAYER WHO DEMONSTRATES THE GREATEST ALL-ROUND ABILITY IN THE POSITION".  He is certainly the best offensive player in the position this year so far, but not the greatest all-round ability in the position which is who the Norris Trophy is (should be) awarded to.


I am not arguing he is not great.  He is a great skilled player.  He has steadily and mightily improved his overall game each of the last several seasons.  He is having a phenomenal year.  He has a huge impact on his team's success.  He is one of the most valuable assets having the very best season of his career on the best team in hockey.  That does not equal Norris Trophy winner.  I'd be more in favor of voting him MVP over Norris candidate.  I'm not down on him or trying to argue semantics, but he is not a GREAT defensive player.  He certainly is not THE greatest defensive player.  Is he great?  Yes.  Do I want him on my team?  Yes.  Is he a good defensemen?....Yes.  He d skills have improved mightily.  He O skills even more so.  Still does not make him the best defensemen in the league.


Maybe I am wrong in my understanding of what a the best defensemen is?  Maybe I'm just too old school.  (Maybe I played D 9 years and only scored a handful of goals and I'm just jealous  :snicker: [size=78%] )[/size]


Either way, glad to be having this discussion rather than one about tossing Johnny Q Dylan into the volcano

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