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chas:
--- Quote from: alta on Wednesday June 27, 2018, 06:19:48 PM Eastern ---DSP just signed a 1 for 1. I think he deserves more than that.
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His numbers don't warrant it. Really. Yes, he is clutch but it's hard to translate that into a contract. Without the post season people would ask why are making him can offer? Another good season from him and I can see him getting $3m.
BlackIce:
--- Quote from: chas on Wednesday June 27, 2018, 10:45:02 PM Eastern ---His numbers don't warrant it. Really. Yes, he is clutch but it's hard to translate that into a contract. Without the post season people would ask why are making him can offer? Another good season from him and I can see him getting $3m.
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Chas, this is a very astute observation. Yes, maybe someone else would have signed him for a year or two, say for $1.3 million to $1.5 million AAV. Maybe it would have worked out with his new team, maybe not, and if not, he fades back into oblivion. But if he stays with the Caps, a team he is grateful to belong to, a team he feels very comfortable with, and has another good year, maybe he can get a longer contract next year, with more security. Yes, I think his move is the move of an honorable man. But it could also be his best chance for a steppingstone that would lead to a reasonably significant contract. I don't know if he could get $3 million. But if he could get someone to offer him, say, $2.5 million AAV for 4 years (his years 28-31 seasons, so it wouldn't be much of a gamble), he could be set for life if he uses his head about how he deals with the money.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Wednesday June 27, 2018, 10:42:48 PM Eastern --- Those guys got caught pinching alot and when they were playing in their own end they were totally clueless back there. Now those guys were literally one dimensional Housley is the worst defender I have EVER seen. You guys really shouldn't be ripping Carlson for his game. He is a 2way defenceman. He is better defensively than most offensive defenceman in the league.
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While that certainly happened on occasion, and Housley was certainly never known for his D, and I don’t call many instances with Coffey. . .But I do recall The Wings seeing they needed to get tougher and smarter and trading their popular offensive Dman for a better player (Shannahan).
But either way, is “better” good enough? If Carlson’s points where 3/4, even half of his total, would his D be worth 8mil or what Sutter is paid? Is he good enough on D, to shutdown the top scoring forward every shift every night? Or does he just not suck at D AS BAD as the likes of Kleinberg, and how is that good enough?
The offensiveDman/4th forward is popular with fans. The more teams use them, over pay them, and become dependent on them, the more other teams will take advantage of it and exploit its risks. We’ve seen it happen to us for years, until we went to trap and everyone player played the games of their life, but that’s to much to bet 8mill on that happening for 8 years.
OldHat:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Wednesday June 27, 2018, 08:34:20 PM Eastern ---
Tom Wilson might want to take issue with that statement.
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What? I think you misread. Losing tougher guys makes the team softer. Wilson can't be the only guy.
OldHat:
--- Quote from: Beaglefan2 on Wednesday June 27, 2018, 08:27:03 PM Eastern ---Not sure why DSP only got that? If he did not sign, was he going to arbitration? Surely he would have gotten more than that in arbitration.
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They did not give him a qualifying offer so no, he was not eligible for arbitration. They did this on purpose because he would have likely gotten more in arb. And reports are he had more lucrative offers but chose to take less to stay with the Caps.
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