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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday June 19, 2018, 08:12:09 PM Eastern »
  Trotz was to become a free agent had they not won the Stanley cup. I honestly think that GMBM had decided long ago that Reirdon was going to be the coach next season. That's why they blocks teams from talking to him. There were going to just let  Trotzs contract run out. They obviously didnt think they would win the cup. Winning the cup actually gave Trotz 2 more years. This while thing is making the Caps look like a mickey mouse organization.
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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday June 19, 2018, 09:06:24 PM Eastern »
I'm not too disappointed. Quite frankly for the first 30 or so games in the season when we were struggling, I attributed it to "new players getting used to the system & injuries" so I gave Trotz a pass. Things got better later on in the season but we had our struggles and there were some extremely frustrating coaching decisions that just made me feel like Trotz had to go after the season was over.

Turns out we won a Cup. Who saw that shit coming? Still, just because we won a Cup doesn't mean he's not going to make some of the same boneheaded decisions he made previously. I absolutely give him credit for getting us two President's Trophies and a Stanley fucking Cup. But I do also feel we need a coach who will lean more on young guys, for the betterment of the team going forward. Guys like Vrana and Burky and Djoos and others need legit opportunities to develop further, and I don't think Trotz is the guy to spearhead that change.

I'm less concerned that we lost a Stanley Cup winning coach, and more concerned that the replacement might have his own issues.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday June 19, 2018, 09:28:23 PM Eastern »
I'm not too disappointed. Quite frankly for the first 30 or so games in the season when we were struggling, I attributed it to "new players getting used to the system & injuries" so I gave Trotz a pass. Things got better later on in the season but we had our struggles and there were some extremely frustrating coaching decisions that just made me feel like Trotz had to go after the season was over.

Turns out we won a Cup. Who saw that shit coming? Still, just because we won a Cup doesn't mean he's not going to make some of the same boneheaded decisions he made previously. I absolutely give him credit for getting us two President's Trophies and a Stanley fucking Cup. But I do also feel we need a coach who will lean more on young guys, for the betterment of the team going forward. Guys like Vrana and Burky and Djoos and others need legit opportunities to develop further, and I don't think Trotz is the guy to spearhead that change.

I'm less concerned that we lost a Stanley Cup winning coach, and more concerned that the replacement might have his own issues.
   Because we have been going through growing pains with Burakovsky and Vrana you think Trotz isnt good with young players. We have other young players that have developed very well under Trotz. Kuzy, Grubauer and Orlov developed under Trotz and we had a lot of rookies contribute this year. I honestly feel Trotz has done can excellent job in DC.
   

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday June 19, 2018, 09:54:30 PM Eastern »
   Because we have been going through growing pains with Burakovsky and Vrana you think Trotz isnt good with young players. We have other young players that have developed very well under Trotz. Kuzy, Grubauer and Orlov developed under Trotz and we had a lot of rookies contribute this year. I honestly feel Trotz has done can excellent job in DC.
 
Agreed, but Zero is dead on to worried about the new cioach,


The growing pains where correct in the last 6 games.  They will now be coming back from a championship and summer of partying.to a new system, new environment and coach that will be trying to win the room and get them to play they finished  last yea.


This isn’t just the young problem cases, this is the whole team. 


This maybe the worst possible scenario  for a coaching chance.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday June 20, 2018, 06:51:36 AM Eastern »
Yeah, they will  be awful. Should phone the season in now. It's time to panic. Fire whoever the new coach is before the season starts. In fact, move the team to rid us of this embarrassing franchise.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday June 20, 2018, 07:35:49 AM Eastern »
Yeah, they will  be awful. Should phone the season in now. It's time to panic. Fire whoever the new coach is before the season starts. In fact, move the team to rid us of this embarrassing franchise.
You heretic,  You speak the devils language of logic.



The Caps are the greatest franchise in sports and the best buisness ever which is why everyone is mean to them.


Mr. Leonis. Mr. Patrick, Mr. McLellan, and the members of the board of Monumental Spoets and Entertainment, have built the greatest tram ever assembled in history.  I have told my daughter she will be disowned & outcasted from the family if she doesn’t name out soon to be born grandchild after the greatest line ever: Andre Lars-Connolly.


I have complete, and unconditional faith in then and thier decisions. In fact I am offering them power of attorney for all my finical assets and medical care.


 It doesn’t matter who the coach is, just make Ovie & Orpik player-coaches, and use the salary for the coach the build a statue of Mr. Leonsis our side the Capital building, because we will keep the
Cup forever.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday June 20, 2018, 08:38:45 AM Eastern »
You heretic,  You speak the devils language of logic.



The Caps are the greatest franchise in sports and the best buisness ever which is why everyone is mean to them.


Mr. Leonis. Mr. Patrick, Mr. McLellan, and the members of the board of Monumental Spoets and Entertainment, have built the greatest tram ever assembled in history.  I have told my daughter she will be disowned & outcasted from the family if she doesn’t name out soon to be born grandchild after the greatest line ever: Andre Lars-Connolly.


I have complete, and unconditional faith in then and thier decisions. In fact I am offering them power of attorney for all my finical assets and medical care.


 It doesn’t matter who the coach is, just make Ovie & Orpik player-coaches, and use the salary for the coach the build a statue of Mr. Leonsis our side the Capital building, because we will keep the
Cup forever.


No, they are the worst run organization in sports. They should all be thrown in prison for embarrassing us in this manor. How can anyone else like this team even a little? They are a total embarrassment on every level possible.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday June 20, 2018, 09:04:30 AM Eastern »

No, they are the worst run organization in sports. They should all be thrown in prison for embarrassing us in this manor. How can anyone else like this team even a little? They are a total embarrassment on every level possible.
Blaspheme!! you blasphemer!!


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After all they have done what no other NHL team in the last 100 yrs has done: Won a Stanley Cup!!


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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday June 20, 2018, 09:35:08 AM Eastern »
I am well aware of how negative I can be at times, but you take the cake. We win the cup and you're still miserable. You'd rather miss the playoffs every year with the type of team you want than win a cup with a type of team you think is too soft.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday June 20, 2018, 11:34:39 AM Eastern »
I am well aware of how negative I can be at times, but you take the cake. We win the cup and you're still miserable. You'd rather miss the playoffs every year with the type of team you want than win a cup with a type of team you think is too soft.
While I certainly can seem that way at, be assured I am just pragmatic, objective, and analytical by nature, which is why I work in the data field.


So I understand, and share the fun of winning the Cup, and acknowledge the excellent play, particularly in the last six wins and 7 games, from a data stand point it is just what is called a :snap shot in time".


It s very easy for emotion, particularly positive, to cloud if not hide negatives, even to the point o dismissing them,which is extremely dangerous.  So it is irresponsible, of not delusional to assume that what you, I and the rest have perceived as negatives are not only no longer factors, but have been solved in the last 6 games which is roughly 6% of the season.


Keep in mind that these negatives, where not minor.  Some the 8 losses where horrendous, there where games this year where plenty of people, even Alan May slammed this team as they looked like a rec league team.


The causes, (ie culture,descisions, etC)  of these negatives,(aka what we have complained about for years) can simply not be e logically let alone accurately credited to the performance in the last 6 games.  Unless of course, you consider it inspite of, or as a catalyst for frustration to cause the turnaround.  Remvem, this team was doubted to even make the playoffs.  Hell The front office even gave us a warning to not have high expectations for this season. . .


So we should all enjoy the Cup win, but we cannot get to high, assume that we are the greatest, that the next is ours, that we did everything right, that there is no more work to do, or even that we are better off going into next season than we where going into last season.




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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday June 20, 2018, 07:03:56 PM Eastern »
Washington Times had an article said this is all on Ted.  Said the two times GMGM had the chance to hire a coach without Ted, both had NHL experience and both times were Conference Champ Winners....1997 and with the Knights. 

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday June 20, 2018, 07:17:28 PM Eastern »
Washington Times had an article said this is all on Ted.  Said the two times GMGM had the chance to hire a coach without Ted, both had NHL experience and both times were Conference Champ Winners....1997 and with the Knights.
Certainly supports the rumor of hiring Oates when GMGM wamted Cooper


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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #52 on: Thursday June 21, 2018, 02:31:16 PM Eastern »
And Trotzs gets hired by the NYI. . . . 




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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #53 on: Thursday June 21, 2018, 02:39:23 PM Eastern »
And Trotzs gets hired by the NYI. . . .


Yep sounds like it's 5 yrs for $4m per - good For Trotz as he's getting what he deserves

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #54 on: Thursday June 21, 2018, 03:06:53 PM Eastern »
Fukin Caps couldn't come off 5 years for $20 mil. Anyone here still doubt what DC say about management??
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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #55 on: Thursday June 21, 2018, 03:25:34 PM Eastern »

Yep sounds like it's 5 yrs for $4m per - good For Trotz as he's getting what he deserves


What a stunning development. /sarc

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #56 on: Thursday June 21, 2018, 03:34:40 PM Eastern »
Fukin Caps couldn't come off 5 years for $20 mil. Anyone here still doubt what DC say about management??
I don't think it's only about money. GM did not see him successful for such a long time. Also he knows better who worth what. I guess we will have all answers in the next season.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #57 on: Thursday June 21, 2018, 09:45:25 PM Eastern »
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/21/trotz-capitals-wasnt-really-sincere-what-we-did-to/


Ted shows his true colors....what a first class ingrate and arrogant shit. 

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #58 on: Thursday June 21, 2018, 10:07:13 PM Eastern »
I don't think it's only about money. GM did not see him successful for such a long time. Also he knows better who worth what. I guess we will have all answers in the next season.


So, what is the first Stanley Cup in an organizations 44 year history worth?  And with a team admittedly not as talented in years past?  So, it really comes down to $10M.  Basically the difference in the amount he signed for with the Islanders and what they wanted to give him.  Term.....you can fire him and pay him, but no, let’s go with a new coach with no NHL head coaching experience.  We have been there and done that and no results.  How many chances at the Stanley Cup did we miss during the OV era because of Ted’s arrogance believing experienced coaching doesn’t matter.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #59 on: Thursday June 21, 2018, 11:14:38 PM Eastern »
He's gone, they fucked up, what else is new? If Ted was a hard ass, it would make some sense, but we know he's a pussy when it comes to hire/fire situations.. The funny thing is, it appears he's put his foot down and it's to lose the only Championship head coach he's ever employed..  :rofl: What fucking idiots DC has running it's sports teams..  :wackysmile: