Offseason starts

[Maacoshark]

“THE ORGANIZATION WANTS THEM TO PLAY THIS WAY!” 

Yes, because playin that way sells tickets, videogames, hope, and entertainment, which is why you’re lovin this: entertainment.

    I have no problem at all with a dman pinching if a forward is back covering the vacated spot. Nothing wrong with keeping the puck in the offensive zone. Any defensive system should involve all 5 players. I know it wasnt like that in the 80s and early 90s. I remember the Pens when they went on their 2 cup runs in the early 90s. Ron Francis had to do all the back checking while Lemieux and Jagr floated around. Man I really disliked that style if hockey.

[OldHat]

I don't think I misread.  The original post said Orpik was essentially the last tough guy.  That isn't true.  Now as for how many "tough guys" you need on the team, I'll leave that to others to discuss.  But the statement as made wasn't true.

I said exactly this "Could possibly be that they wanted to avoid arbitration with DSP.  I'd like to see him back for his toughness.  If not they need to give O'Brien another shot at it on the wing.  If he's gone, and with Orpik gone we got a lot softer."
Never remotely said that Orpik was the last tough guy.  I said that if we lose both DSP and Orpik then this team becomes a lot softer...  Which is true...  Jeez.

[OldHat]

Reports are that Reirden is close to being named coach.  Not that it's a shocker or anything.

[alta]

Reports are that Reirden is close to being named coach.  Not that it's a shocker or anything.

thankfully, it won't turn into a cap hit discussion

[DC_1908]

thankfully, it won't turn into a cap hit discussion

I bet he gets 5 mil for 5 yrs

[BlackIce]

I said exactly this "Could possibly be that they wanted to avoid arbitration with DSP.  I'd like to see him back for his toughness.  If not they need to give O'Brien another shot at it on the wing.  If he's gone, and with Orpik gone we got a lot softer."
Never remotely said that Orpik was the last tough guy.  I said that if we lose both DSP and Orpik then this team becomes a lot softer...  Which is true...  Jeez.

But it wasn't your post I was referring to -- it was Beagle's comment on your post.

[BlackIce]

“THE ORGANIZATION WANTS THEM TO PLAY THIS WAY!” 

Yes, because playin that way sells tickets, videogames, hope, and entertainment, which is why you’re lovin this: entertainment.

I don't think so.  I think that the organization's philosophy about defensemen pinching is because they think it is the most effective way to play and succeed in today's NHL.  I think the answer to swarming 5-man defense in today's NHL is having 5 guys that potentially join the attack.  Do you really think that the organization told Orpik to start forcing the play below the offensive goal line (which I saw a couple of times a game in many of the Caps games) because they thought it would entertain the fans?

[Mickstix]

I don't mind if he pinches "when he's supposed to".. It's when we get a lead and he's still in "lets go pinch" mode, that worries me.. Not just him obviously but since he'll be the only one making 8 mil per, he'll get most of my attention..

[DC_1908]

I don't think so.  I think that the organization's philosophy about defensemen pinching is because they think it is the most effective way to play and succeed in today's NHL.  I think the answer to swarming 5-man defense in today's NHL is having 5 guys that potentially join the attack.  Do you really think that the organization told Orpik to start forcing the play below the offensive goal line (which I saw a couple of times a game in many of the Caps games) because they thought it would entertain the fans?

Funny how when we meet moved away from that Mickey Mouse videogame  horseshit we actually won in the playoffs isn’t it?


It’s pretty simple:  offense entertains-entertainment sells tickets, wrap that with “have a chance” and “today’s NHL” marketing  and you have a revenue stream so you don’t need to win.



Maybe Trotz knew he was done so he went ahead and changed the bullshit system in the playoffs?  Or maybe Monumental saw a trap all game and that’s when they decided he was gone? Extreme yes , but also feasible and wouldn’t be that surprising

[KitFisto]

Kempney is back. 4 years at 2.5 per.

[DC_1908]

Kempney is back. 4 years at 2.5 per.

Not, bad, not great either,  but not bad. . .
 2022 is gonna be interesting unless the cap practicly doubles [size=78%] [/size]

[OldHat]

But it wasn't your post I was referring to -- it was Beagle's comment on your post.

Lol, I see that now... 

[OldHat]

I bet he gets 5 mil for 5 yrs 

 

[dpf1971]

Kempney is back. 4 yea[size=78%]rs at 2.5 per.[/size]

Another good signing.  I'm starting to like this off-season (well, other than it being too long as always).  I would have liked to have seen $2 million instead of 2.5 but I think he's worth it with how good he and John worked together.  Now they just have to get Beagle and the RFA's.

[alta]

It’s official. It’s now coach Reirdon

[KitFisto]

It’s official. It’s now coach Rierdon

As expected. No complaints for now. Especially if the rumours about it being his system in the playoffs are true.

[Beaglefan2]

Don't mind Kempney. Hope he turns out to be as good as he was in the playoffs and agree he was good with Carlson. I also hope they are saving up some money for Wilson. 


I fear Beagle will leave.  IMO he has always been a good bargain for the Caps and I think his agent has done a lousy job for him.  He now is recognized around the league, and appreciated more.  Maybe his age will keep things reasonable, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him get a 3 - 4 year deal at pretty decent money.

[Biggest]

According to Bob McKenzie with TSN, Beags is positioned to leave the Caps and is poised to sign a multi-year deal elsewhere that will pay him handsomely.  We shall miss Beags - no one worked harder, had less 'cheat' in his game, and dominated at the Dot and on the PK like Beags.  What a fine player he was for Washington.  Chandler Stephenson has big skates to fill, but I love that kid as well.

[DC_1908]

Don't mind Kempney. Hope he turns out to be as good as he was in the playoffs and agree he was good with Carlson. I also hope they are saving up some money for Wilson. 


I fear Beagle will leave.  IMO he has always been a good bargain for the Caps and I think his agent has done a lousy job for him.  He now is recognized around the league, and appreciated more.  Maybe his age will keep things reasonable, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him get a 3 - 4 year deal at pretty decent money.

If he did I wouldn’t blame him, this orginization and fan base have all but hated him and treated him like trash because they thought he should be playing in Reston while worshiping hacks like Bura and Connelly


Here’s to a crap defensive team with 4 centers at under 50% faceoffes.   

Hey, why don’t we just have Carslon take faceoffs!  He scores points so he can do that too right?

[4 Caps]

If he did I wouldn’t blame him, this orginization and fan base have all but hated him and treated him like trash because they thought he should be playing in Reston while worshiping hacks like Bura and Connelly


Here’s to a crap defensive team with 4 centers at under 50% faceoffes.   

Hey, why don’t we just have Carslon take faceoffs!  He scores points so he can do that too right?

DC that is plain BS that the organization and fan base have hated Beagle and treated him like trash.  Beagle is one of the most loved players in the organization.  The fans love him. 


Also you keep saying entertainment equals revenue and the Caps onlycare about entertaining.  I will tell you what brings in revenue and that is winning.  If the Caps keep winning they will make mucho money. The key to winning in today’s game is pressure, pressure, pressure.  Force the other team to make mistakes and capitalze on those mistakes.