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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #20 on: Thursday March 07, 2024, 05:15:03 PM Eastern »
Dowd...I think the Caps will hold onto him unless they get a pretty decent return.  Although at this point, as much as I like him and he seems a really decent fellow....I'd be willing to part with him, and he is 33.  He does a lot on this team, but he is not a special player you build a future around.  THe caps are weak up the middle though, so unless you get decent bang, I hold onto him.  Sgarbossa might could fill his spot, but he is 31 now (dowd 33)

I hope they do trade Pacs and get something for him.  He isn't going to help us this season and poof he'll be gone for nothing.  I would think some playoff bound team would want a character, cup-winning guy like him just for depth, etc.

NAK...meh...I don't see him getting much return.  But I'm fine with moving him.

Hell if you really gonna rebuild...why not move Jensen or TVR?...or, heaven forbid, Carlson?  You could bring up Iorio or Lucas Johansen.  I know they will never move Carlson, but ...I was surprised they extended Jensen.  I mean he's fine, but for rebuild mode why bother?
Although our D corps isnt impressing anyone:  Carlson, Jensen, TVR, Fever, Sundin, Bear, ALexeyev, Johansen

Fucking Kuzy...found another way to fuck this team with his issues.  Made him virtually untradeable.

I'd love them to move Keumper too.  They could afford to retain salary on him.

The thing is....the Caps will for the first time in 10 seasons will have big buckets of cash/cap room to spend in the off-season.  Backstrom, Kuzy, Mantha is like $23mil
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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #21 on: Thursday March 07, 2024, 06:00:32 PM Eastern »
Dowd has one more season under contract, and he’s cheap, less than $1.5M per. For what he brings there is no reason to trade him now, unless you know you can fill that hole. I don’t see anyone in the system right now that can.
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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #22 on: Thursday March 07, 2024, 06:57:59 PM Eastern »
Not sure why they'd care if they can fill Dowd's hole? I mean, competitively anyway.. The goal at this point shouldn't be to keep older guys who are good. Good does nothing positive for this team. The goal should be to hope Ovi scores and lose every game.

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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #23 on: Thursday March 07, 2024, 09:09:18 PM Eastern »
Malynstein is the replacement for Dowd - younger, faster. If they could get a 2nd for Dowd, I would do it. He has been a little injury prone and I am afraid some of it has been concussions.


Patch is untradeable at this point. He has shown to be old and slow and the Caps made a mistake by giving him enough games to make his incentive bonus - so they will have to eat 2M next year.


Really wish we could dump Kemper as Charlie is clearly a much better goalie for next year and we have a couple guys ready to take over after that.

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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #24 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 08:58:50 AM Eastern »
Patch is untradeable at this point. He has shown to be old and slow and the Caps made a mistake by giving him enough games to make his incentive bonus - so they will have to eat 2M next year.


Patches is UFA....signed him this year only - has no contract next year.  Trade him for a bag of pucks.
I'd trade him to a contender for almost any pick AND retain salary.  You'd only be retaining 25% of the year so...500K
I could see somebody grabbing him just for his leadership and Cup pedigree - just for a playoff ride. There's virtually no risk with no contract
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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #25 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 09:35:28 AM Eastern »
Yep - give away Pac - they should have managed his game count to avoid the bonus. I actually don't think there will be any demand for him.  If he had played really well, I was hoping to get a 3rd round pick.


Now that they smoked the Pens, maybe they back off trading Dowd.  I have always liked Dowd, but I think Malynstyn is the perfect replacement for him so if we could get at least a 2nd rounder for him, I would go for that.


The big mystery will be what do we do on goalies.  Charlie played great last night and you know they would like to keep him as the starter and mentor to one of the young goalies next year and blow Keumper out with his big salary. They would probably have to retain more of his salary than they would want though.

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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #26 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 10:25:53 AM Eastern »
If they can't move Patches, I hope he becomes a healthy scratch. He does nothing for them going forward other than possibly a mentor.

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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #27 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 10:38:44 AM Eastern »



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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #28 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 10:41:51 AM Eastern »
Say Waaaahut?  That is interesting. It's going to be hard to deal with whatever they do with him.  They will have to retain a bunch of salary and probably won't get much in return - then Kuzy will go play like a maniac and look great for a while.

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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #29 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 10:52:38 AM Eastern »
Kuzy gone!  To Carolina for a 2025 3rd round pick and Caps keep half his salary.  Sad ending for one of the most talented players that the Caps have had. I have always thought that the Caps coaching did a dis-service to him.  When he came over, he was so enamored with Ovi that he decided to try and be a playmaker instead of a pure scorer.  They should have sat him down and told him to score goals!  Every time he passed when he should have shot, they should have really clamped down on him.  I think he easily could have been a 40+ goal scorer.  Caps coaching really blew it.

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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #30 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 10:53:06 AM Eastern »
Say Waaaahut?  That is interesting. It's going to be hard to deal with whatever they do with him.  They will have to retain a bunch of salary and probably won't get much in return - then Kuzy will go play like a maniac and look great for a while.

looks like a 225 3rd rounder and 50% salary retention
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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #31 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 10:59:31 AM Eastern »
Kuzy gone!  To Carolina for a 2025 3rd round pick and Caps keep half his salary.  Sad ending for one of the most talented players that the Caps have had. I have always thought that the Caps coaching did a dis-service to him.  When he came over, he was so enamored with Ovi that he decided to try and be a playmaker instead of a pure scorer.  They should have sat him down and told him to score goals!  Every time he passed when he should have shot, they should have really clamped down on him.  I think he easily could have been a 40+ goal scorer.  Caps coaching really blew it.

I don't think it was a coaching failure, he did it to himself
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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #32 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 11:03:04 AM Eastern »
Caps gotta eat $3.9M next year just for Kuzy. Next seasons cap hit is growing faster than it should. The comments are entertaining ..


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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #33 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 11:05:48 AM Eastern »
I don't think it was a coaching failure, he did it to himself

This. Those of us that have been around awhile remember the situation with Witt. Despite making it publicly known he wanted to be traded, more difficult to do pre interwebs, he played hard for two seasons waiting for management to trade him.
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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #35 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 01:31:54 PM Eastern »
The Kuzy move makes me very happy on two counts.
Firstly, he's been given another chance  ....   again.   Obviously the Caps are a toxic environment for him.   Hopefully being away from and out from under Ovi's shadow will allow him to grow in himself and be his own man.


Secondly, YAY!  Our locker room has just had an enourmous cloud lifted off it and it's not as if we've missed him playing.


I was pretty worried that nobody would want him, in spite of his talent, so I'm happy for both parties.

Good luck to him.   ....   And them.    :P
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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #36 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 01:56:38 PM Eastern »
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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #37 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 02:41:43 PM Eastern »
I'm happy for Kuzy.  Maybe the change of scenery will be good for him.

I'm happy for the Caps - got rid of a disgruntled player.

I'm happy for me .......if his attitude doesn't change with yet another "refresh", then Lazy Kuzy versus Rod the Bod is must see TV.  Grab the popcorn.

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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #38 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 02:46:48 PM Eastern »
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Re: Trade deadline 2024: March 8
« Reply #39 on: Friday March 08, 2024, 03:04:23 PM Eastern »
Well good luck to Kuzy.  The deal is way lopsided, but it needed to be.  I watched GMBM interview from couple days ago and it was very obvious he would never put on a Caps sweater again.  Every answer to every question was basically "We are looking for a fresh start for him to give him an opportunity to continue his career....elsewhere"
This year salary wont matter cause you were paying it regardless, but next year....Ooooof.  Basically you paid $3.9m to get rid of him AND to play against you in the east.
Carolina is definitely making moves for the playoffs.  But I guess you can do that when you are a contender.

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