Holtby

[Surreylily]

Your wild speculations and conspiracy theories here please.   
To get you started.......


He's gone blind and his contact lenses no longer work for him.


He's been a dick and upset the rest of the team.


He's carrying an injury.


He has family issues, maybe an illness in his family, so can't concentrate.


Could it be the loss of his buddy Smiffy, who used to practice with him all the time and was always the one who volunteered for when he had goalie practice?


Is he getting pressure from somewhere else/blackmail/Toronto?


Maybe he just reached his peak and is done.




Look, I know I've come out with this as a little flippant - as I do  [size=78%] - but there are some genuine concerns here and if anybody has any information or insight into what is ailing him, I, for one would like to know.[/size]
I love the guy and he has brought me much joy and happiness.
For my part, I just can't understand the extreme comparisons of his previous performances to the ones this year.  When I mentioned it before, I got slammed, but he doesn't look happy here anymore.


Your thoughts and input please.

[Maacoshark]

  I am a big Holtby supporter but something isn't right. Not only is he struggling but the team seems to be playing poorly in front of him. He looks completely disgusted after every goal and his team mates dont appear to care. Maybe he had a meltdown in the locker room about the poor defensive play. Just speculation. I dont know what's going on but the team has played better in front of Grubauer. Last night game Holtby face more high scoring chances in one period than Grubauer did in 2 periods.
  I just hope Holtby can get his head out of his ass very soon. If we are going to do anything in the playoffs we need Holtby at the top of his game. Probably won't matter. Looks like this team peaked before the Xmas break.

[Mickstix]

He's having a slump? lol It happens to the best of em'. Having the weight of the entire D on your shoulders would be enough to break most mortals.

[4 Caps]

Also the fact that Korn is no longer around on a daily basis may be a factor.  Maybe Murray, the new goalie coach, is having him do different things that aren’t working but whatever it is has got to get squared away pronto.  As someone else previously noted, the next five games are going to be tough games and everyone including Holtby will have to be at their best for us to win 3 of the next 5. 

[alta]

this isn't the first time a change in coaching has screwed up the goaltending, nor will it be the last. The bigger issue is the way the team defends Grubs against any extra stick work or interference when they haven't done that for Holts, and that's not something that started recently with Hokts calling them out in the lockeroom

[Pavel095]

There is definitely something going on between Holtby and team this season,because it’s a big difference when Holts in and out.The reasons for this could be a conflict in locker room or Holts psychological problems..

[OldHat]

Oh good grief...

[Surreylily]

Oh good grief...

What?

[PenaltyBox]

Combination of things...

• Holtby has been in the league for awhile, and the opposition watches film and knows his weknesses.
• Caps have been lousy exiting their end of the ice, sloppy passing +Holtby not prepared = puck in the back of the net.
• Holtby is not comfortable this year, focus is not there.

My $.02


Box

[DC_1908]

Combination of things...

• Holtby has been in the league for awhile, and the opposition watches film and knows his weknesses.
• Caps have been lousy exiting their end of the ice, sloppy passing +Holtby not prepared = puck in the back of the net.
• Holtby is not comfortable this year, focus is not there.

My $.02


Box

Who hoop Box found us!!!   Welcome man!!

[OldHat]

What?

Players have ups and downs - the team is playing like ass in front of him.  Fix the rest of the team and he is golden.  It's not on him.  It's on the defense... and overall team defense.

[Surreylily]

The comms at tonight's game said that Mitch Korn has been brought back on active service to sort out what is ailing Holts.  Please let that be true!
 
After a slightly shaky start, I thought Holtby played better in this game than for his last few, for sure.
Let the goalie whisperer sprinkle his magic dust again..........


Now, correct me if I'm wrong - which I know you will    - but Korn was in semi (?) retirement, but was retained as a consultant, yes?  My point is, he still had input in Holtby's training, albeit not directly or face to face anymore.  Is that right?
So this new fella, who's name I can't recall offhand, trained under Korn, right?  So knows his stuff, but just can't quite execute, it seems....., or is maybe trying a few things of his own?  Maybe he just doesn't have the chemistry or respect that Korn has?  Who knows!   


There are still other questions, regarding the team and why they don't protect him so much.  Is it something he said in the locker room???  Did he go all Tim Tom on them and lose the plot?


Our D is, well, just disgracefull this year and that new fella hasn't exactly helped.     Fact is, our last line of defence needs to be our best defence and he just hasn't been.  Not for a while.  It's a little more complicated than that though, methinks.


People rarely lose the plot over one or even two things.  It tends to be a whole stream of little things.  Anybody remember that classic film with Michael Douglas?  Starts off in a traffic jam...  He tries to order a breakfast at 1 minute past the time, etc....  builds up and up and up....


Or maybe he's just pissed off with the D.   (Straight face).



All speculation, obviously.


Glad Mitch is back to sort it out.   

[Surreylily]

Players have ups and downs - the team is playing like ass in front of him.  Fix the rest of the team and he is golden.  It's not on him.  It's on the defense... and overall team defense.

I respectfully and mostly disagree.  His performance is more than just a "down" period, or a slum[.


I DO agree that the D stinks this year.  Hardly a shocker.  Our O could certainly help out more.  "Scoar moar" and all that.  But Holts has not been his usual self for a while now.  Not for a long while.  [size=78%] [/size]

[RavenCp]

Who is a better goalie now, Holt or Grub? 

[Maacoshark]

Who is a better goalie now, Holt or Grub?

  Grubauer is playing better at the moment but I still think Holtby is the better goaltender. I can't explain what is happening to Holtby. He can't stop a beachball right now

[DC_1908]

Players have ups and downs - the team is playing like ass in front of him.  Fix the rest of the team and he is golden.  It's not on him.  It's on the defense... and overall team defense.

Yep!  This is the core and catalyst of the issue.


For this team to win regularly, Holts has to be the best goalie on the planet , which clearly teams and fans alike are used to being while playing 95% of the games.


All of this Holtbly bashing crap is just using him as a scapegoat aa few will acknowledge that this team is made for video games.

[Surreylily]

 
Nobody is "bashing" Holtby luv'.
We are acknowledging that there is something wrong with him this season.  We are speculating why?  No more, no less.


Do you remember when we got our "Holtbeast" dolls at that game?  Ha ha!  I was jumping around like a three year old! 
I adore the guy.  I remember somebody posting his very early on "Holtbyisms" and I kind of fell a little bit in love with him then.
When Mitch Korn came in, he turned Holts in to a superstar, maybe a little before his time.......  Goalies are, reputed to improve with age and Holltby is still prettyyoung in comparison.


I think Grubs, Guubauer is doing an amazing job right now, but I don't think anybody disputes that Holtby is our No. 1.

[Stealyerfaceoff]

Looks like Gruby is #1 now Lil.
I love me some Holtbeast but he's too hot and cold right now.

[Maacoshark]

Looks like Gruby is #1 now Lil.
I love me some Holtbeast but he's too hot and cold right now.

   I don't like our goaltending situation right now. Holtby is clearly the better goalie but Grubauer is without a doubt playing better right now. Even though Grubauer is playing well I'm concerned if we start him in the playoffs because he is a but weak technically.
No clue who we should start. If it was my decision I'd go with Holtby but that could be totally out to lunch.

[Mickstix]

Either goalie loses 1 game and it'll be a switch to the other.. That's just how it's shaping up. Unless Gruby starts to falter I imagine he'll be the starter in game #1..