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Title: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 05:26:54 PM Eastern

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                 Tue. Jan. 11    Carolina Hurricanes @ Washington Capitals
                 Place:  Capital One Arena
                 Time: 7:00 p.m.
                 TV: NBC Sports Washington, FS-SE
                 Radio: 106.7 The Fan, Capitals Radio 24/7
                 Carolina Hurricanes
            46-19-15-8   Last Game: Jan 9, Lost 4-5 against Lightning
                 Washington Capitals           57-27-13-3   Last Game: Jan 9, Won 3-1 against Canucks


                    8-Ovechkin         19-Bäckström        25-Smith-Pelly
                   13-Vrana              92-Kuznetsov       
43-Wilson
                   
10-Connolly          20-Eller                  77-Oshie
                   
18-Stephenson     83-Beagle              39-Chaisson

                               29-Djoos               74-Carlson
                                 9-Orlov                 2-Niskanen
                                44-Orpik               22-Bowey

                                              70-Holtby
(starter)
                 
                             31-Grubauer
 
               
                           -- SCRATCH --
                     
                     65-Burakovsky (SICK)
                 
                            4-Chorney
                                   
                                           -- INJURED --


     
                                -- 1st Powerplay Unit --
 
                     77-Oshie            19-Bäckström     92-Kuznetsov
   
                               8-Ovechkin           74-Carlson
                               
   
                                 -- 2nd Powerplay Unit --
                    39-Chaisson       20-Eller             13-Vrana
   
                                2-Niskanen             9-Orlov
       

               Referees:  Kevin Pollock (#33)  Kendrick Nicholson (#30)
               Linesmen:  Greg Devorski (#54),  Brad Kovachik (#71)





 

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By Jesse Dougherty  January 11 at 12:59 PM

Capitals’ Lars Eller finds his groove midway through the season

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Lars Eller has been a steady offensive presence for the Capitals this season. (Ed Mulholland/USA TODAY Sports)

Lars Eller weaved through the center of the ice, drifted toward the right slot and, after dragging the puck behind him for a split second, fired a shot through the legs of Vancouver Canucks defenseman Ben Hutton and into the net.
The goal came in the first period of the Capitals’ 3-1 win over the Canucks on Tuesday night, and it was Eller’s flashiest play in a season that can otherwise be defined by the center’s consistency and adaptability. Eller has 12 assists in 42 games — his career-high for assists is 22 — and has netted seven goals while playing with a variety of wingers that have included T.J. Oshie, Devante Smith-Pelly, Andre Burakovsky, Jakub Vrana, Brett Connolly, Alex Chiasson and Chandler Stephenson. Eller centered a line of Connolly and Oshie in Tuesday night’s win. He is expected to center a line of Burakovsky and Oshie against the Carolina Hurricanes at Capital One Arena on Thursday night.
On Thursday morning, Capitals Coach Barry Trotz swapped Chiasson, who was scratched Tuesday, back into the lineup on the fourth line. Connolly is expected to be scratched Thursday night as Trotz continues to rotate forwards ahead of an odd part of the schedule that includes the team’s bye week and the all-star break.
“I think so,” Eller said when asked whether there is something about his game that makes him able to thrive with a bunch of different forwards. “But I also think we have a really deep team with a lot of good players. So no matter who, I end up with really good players. But I like to think I can be equally effective no matter who I play with.”
And why is that?
“I’m probably not the guy to evaluate that,” he answered, which fits with Eller’s general aversion to talking about himself.
The 28-year-0ld is in his second year with the Capitals, and he said he has felt increasingly more comfortable since two Christmases ago. Since then, after what he called a bumpy start to his tenure with the Capitals, Eller was the center for a reliable third line (Burakovsky, him and Connolly) at the end of last season, and now is providing consistent offense in a pivotal year of his career.
Eller is nearing the end of a four-year, $14 million deal he signed while he was with the Montreal Canadiens. It is his second contract year of his career, and he feels more settled this time.
“I’ve already been through that once, and I think I learned a lot from that last time,” Eller said, and he added that he probably thought about it too much earlier in his career. “This year, I don’t really have any worries. Just having fun. Things are going pretty good, too, and the team is going good, too. There’s no reason to think about it. I’m aware of it, but it’s not a worry.”
After Eller netted that goal through Hutton’s legs, Capital One Arena blared Survivor’s “Eye Of The Tiger.” Capitals players started calling Eller “Tiger” after a team-building activity last season, the center said, but he doesn’t want to reveal any more than that about the nickname.
“That’s all I have to say about Tiger,” he said through an unassuming smile. “Just Tiger.”
Capitals unhappy with Carlson’s All-Star snub
The NHL announced Wednesday that Capitals goaltender Braden Holtby will join Alex Ovechkin and Trotz at the All-Star Game in Tampa at the end of January. Defenseman John Carlson, who has the second-most points (34, with five goals and 29 assists) among all NHL defensemen, was noticeably left off the Metropolitan Division’s roster.
“I was supremely disappointed about Carlson,” Trotz said Thursday morning. “I think it’s a crime that he didn’t make it. I’m not in the selection process, but I know he’s been one of the best defensemen. I know how much he has meant to us as a group, especially with [Matt Niskanen] out earlier in the year and how many minutes he had to play. Playing with pure rookies on the back end and helping them along, I just think he should have been there. I’m biased, obviously. I see him night in and night out, but I truly believe he should be in that group.”
Capitals defenseman Brooks Orpik shared his thoughts on the selection process when asked about Carlson, who has never been named an All-Star in his nine-year career and is averaging 26:20 of ice time. The Metro Division defensemen selected were the Hurricanes’ Noah Hanifin, the Columbus Blue Jackets’ Seth Jones and the Pittsburgh Penguins’ Kris Letang.
“I wouldn’t put much value in the All-Star Game selections,” Orpik said. “[Nicklas] Backstrom has played in one, I think, so that tells you enough about the selection process for that. So I’m not going to get too much into whether certain guys should be there. Selfishly speaking, I’m glad [Carlson] is not going, so he gets some extra rest with the amount of minutes he’s been playing this year.”
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 06:11:11 PM Eastern
I like the energy DSP brings, but I don't understand how he's on 1 while Oshie and Willy are on 2 and 3
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 06:49:16 PM Eastern
I like the energy DSP brings, but I don't understand how he's on 1 while Oshie and Willy are on 2 and 3
   I agree. DSP is a 4th line player.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 07:10:37 PM Eastern
Whew, I was worried I would not make it to see the start.

Go Caps!!!
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 07:16:35 PM Eastern
That was cool, Ovie juggling the puck on his stick four times in the air as he skated around defenders.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: dpf1971 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 07:18:47 PM Eastern
Whew, I was worried I would not make it to see the start.

Go Caps!!!


Do mean the start of the Canes game or the Caps game, since it looks like tonight that is a different thing??
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 07:26:15 PM Eastern
damn we look sloppy tonight




again
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 07:27:37 PM Eastern
Whew, I was worried I would not make it to see the start.

Go Caps!!!


Do mean the start of the Canes game or the Caps game, since it looks like tonight that is a different thing??

LOL!  I don't like the way we play teams that aggressively go after us. We seem to panic against the Canes.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 07:34:27 PM Eastern
I'm shocked they didn't call offsides. Ovie was 6 feet offsides on that last shift change and entry.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 07:37:53 PM Eastern
. . . i shoulda painted the wall by the tv today. . .  at least then I could watch the paint dry until this game gets interesting
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 07:42:38 PM Eastern
. . . i shoulda painted the wall by the tv today. . .  at least then I could watch the paint dry until this game gets interesting

Do it tomorrow and start a PDT to keep us entertained during the game in Carolina.   :D
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: dpf1971 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 07:43:59 PM Eastern
OMG .... the period is already over??  Really?  To me, it was just one long Carolina fore-check session.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 07:47:52 PM Eastern
. . . i shoulda painted the wall by the tv today. . .  at least then I could watch the paint dry until this game gets interesting

Do it tomorrow and start a PDT to keep us entertained during the game in Carolina.   :D


That’s a hell of an in idea. . . at least the paint would not commit as many turnovers
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:00:40 PM Eastern
well, the 1st p was boring. At least the Caps didn't give up a goal, don't know how. Now I need to drink more to make the 2nd p more interesting
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:04:14 PM Eastern
You would think Ovie knew that rule.  Dumb penalty.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:05:00 PM Eastern
WTF!??? This is just more proof these jackass zebras make up shit as they go against the Caps
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:06:53 PM Eastern
WTF!??? This is just more proof these jackass zebras make up shit as they go against the Caps
   Nope that's an automatic penalty. It was a stupid play by Ovi.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:12:40 PM Eastern
http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules/Rules-10.php (http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules/Rules-10.php)


The penalty should have been a bench minor on Ovie, not an unsportsmanlike penalty on Connolly.  The refs got it wrong.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:13:51 PM Eastern
I like the energy DSP brings, but I don't understand how he's on 1 while Oshie and Willy are on 2 and 3
The best reason would be back to games, and three games against the same team so close together.


While the Cape changing the lineup usually takes an act of congress, RW is where they will or can have the most flexibility, so they should in fact throw different lines and looks against a team they are seeing so often and close together
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:22:08 PM Eastern
Another 714 goal. maybe that's why he's not invited to the All-Star game.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:23:06 PM Eastern
What a brutal attempt of a pass.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: DC_1908 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:23:26 PM Eastern
how to beat the Caps 101 . . .
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: apace41 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:24:37 PM Eastern
Another 714 goal. maybe that's why he's not invited to the All-Star game.


THIS!


What the fuck was that?
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:24:40 PM Eastern
how to beat the Caps 101 . . .

Correction:  How to make the Caps beat themselves. 
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: washcapsfan on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:24:55 PM Eastern
Stupid play by stoner...
Playing the typical horseshit game again
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: dpf1971 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:25:58 PM Eastern
Out-fucking-standing.  Hey Koker .. you asked why Carlson wasn't on the All-Star squad.  That might have been a good reason right there.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:30:00 PM Eastern
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Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:30:21 PM Eastern
Eller!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:30:52 PM Eastern
We will take it.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:31:54 PM Eastern
yea, the radio pregame guys said Carlson was dissed, yet he's the only top 4 in the league that gives up a goal a week
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:32:17 PM Eastern
http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules/Rules-10.php (http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules/Rules-10.php)


The penalty should have been a bench minor on Ovie, not an unsportsmanlike penalty on Connolly.  The refs got it wrong.
   BTW Connolly did not get the penalty. It was a bench minor. Someone that was on the ice has to serve the penalty.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:37:58 PM Eastern
http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules/Rules-10.php (http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules/Rules-10.php)


The penalty should have been a bench minor on Ovie, not an unsportsmanlike penalty on Connolly.  The refs got it wrong.
   BTW Connolly did not get the penalty. It was a bench minor. Someone that was on the ice has to serve the penalty.

They corrected it (what's new?). It was originally reported on the box score as unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on Connolly.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:40:35 PM Eastern
http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules/Rules-10.php (http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules/Rules-10.php)


The penalty should have been a bench minor on Ovie, not an unsportsmanlike penalty on Connolly.  The refs got it wrong.
   BTW Connolly did not get the penalty. It was a bench minor. Someone that was on the ice has to serve the penalty.

They corrected it (what's new?). It was originally reported on the box score as unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on Connolly.
     That call was a no brainer. I can't believe Ovi didnt know he couldn't do that.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:47:44 PM Eastern

They corrected it (what's new?). It was originally reported on the box score as unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on Connolly.
     That call was a no brainer. I can't believe Ovi didnt know he couldn't do that.

Definitely too many brain farts by the Caps.  Sloppy passing and dumb decisions should not be happening in the second half of the season.  It tells me they are not doing all they can to get ready to play.  It's good to have fun out there, but loosey-goosey is not acceptable at the professional level.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:47:58 PM Eastern
and I heard about six announcers that were dumbfounded by the call, on t v and radio. No one had even heard of it being called much less witnessing it. The zebras could've easily called too many men and it wouldn't have been questioned
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:51:54 PM Eastern
and I heard about six announcers that were dumbfounded by the call, on t v and radio. No one had even heard of it being called much less witnessing it. The zebras could've easily called too many men and it wouldn't have been questioned

NHL Rule Book

10.3Broken Stick - Player - A broken stick is one which, in the opinion of the Referee, is unfit for normal play.
A player without a stick may participate in the game. A player whose stick is broken may participate in the game provided he drops the broken stick. A minor penalty shall be imposed for an infraction of this rule.
A player who has lost or broken his stick may only receive a stick at his own players' bench or be handed one from a teammate on the ice. A player may not participate in the play using a goalkeeper's stick. A minor penalty shall be imposed for an infraction of this rule.
A player tendered a stick thrown on the ice from the players' or penalty bench will not receive a penalty. However, the person responsible for throwing the stick will receive a bench minor penalty.




It's pretty clear to me.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:53:09 PM Eastern
      There is a penalty for throwing any equipment from the bench. It is ruled as an unsportsmanlike bench minor. Its not a new rule.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:54:01 PM Eastern
and I heard about six announcers that were dumbfounded by the call, on t v and radio. No one had even heard of it being called much less witnessing it. The zebras could've easily called too many men and it wouldn't have been questioned

NHL Rule Book

10.3Broken Stick - Player - A broken stick is one which, in the opinion of the Referee, is unfit for normal play.
A player without a stick may participate in the game. A player whose stick is broken may participate in the game provided he drops the broken stick. A minor penalty shall be imposed for an infraction of this rule.
A player who has lost or broken his stick may only receive a stick at his own players' bench or be handed one from a teammate on the ice. A player may not participate in the play using a goalkeeper's stick. A minor penalty shall be imposed for an infraction of this rule.
A player tendered a stick thrown on the ice from the players' or penalty bench will not receive a penalty. However, the person responsible for throwing the stick will receive a bench minor penalty.




It's pretty clear to me.
   Wrong rule.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:55:05 PM Eastern
ArJ, I need my laptop fixed so I can record the announcers and post it here
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 08:57:07 PM Eastern
http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules
   It it rule 53.3
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:04:54 PM Eastern
http://www.hockeycentral.co.uk/nhlrules
   It it rule 53.3

Yeah, that would apply too. 10.3 is a bit more specific to the situation, but either one yields a bench minor penalty.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:09:29 PM Eastern
ArJ, I need my laptop fixed so I can record the announcers and post it here

Send me a PM with the brand and model number.  I have offered to take a look at it.  These things die and are more costly to fix than replace sometimes.  There's a chance it might be something simple I could fix.  Have you ever tried a different power supply or tested the power supply/adapter for proper output voltage?  I think we talked about this once.

ETA
Oops! I forgot . . . .  "Hockey!"    ;D
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:14:27 PM Eastern
Phuck
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:14:33 PM Eastern
Damn! Two of our guys tagged the puck?  That's usually an instant whistle on a delayed penalty.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: washcapsfan on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:15:36 PM Eastern
Playing down to a shitty team again. Can't get possession of the puck, and losing ALL of the battles along the boards.. We lose this game
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:16:40 PM Eastern
Damn! Two of our guys tagged the puck?  That's usually an instant whistle on a delayed penalty.
    I agree
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:16:47 PM Eastern
The Caps lack of effort/heart/urgency is most certainly the primary issue in this game.  Not nearly physical enough so we are letting these Canes play THEIR game.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:23:21 PM Eastern
on a delayed penalty the rule book says control, not touch. Yet for years now the league has gone by touch, so now that's what the players expect. This really needs to be fixed
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:24:44 PM Eastern
on a delayed penalty the rule book says control, not touch. Yet for years now the league has gone by touch, so now that's what the players expect. This really needs to be fixed

That second touch appeared to be a controlled pass to me.  It is too grey an area and inconsistently called, like too many other things in the NHL.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:28:38 PM Eastern
The way the Caps are pissing around with the puck and unable to pass worth a fuck I would not pull Holtby. Almost guaranteed to give an ENG to the Canes.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:29:14 PM Eastern
The way the Caps are pissing around with the puck and unable to pass worth a fuck I would not pull Holtby. Almost guaranteed to give an ENG to the Canes.

And there ya go!!!!!
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:29:27 PM Eastern
that's nice
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: apace41 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:29:56 PM Eastern
You can't expect to win them all at home and 10 straight was great, but THAT was a piss-poor effort by the boys.  Not many guys brought it tonight.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:30:25 PM Eastern
on a delayed penalty the rule book says control, not touch. Yet for years now the league has gone by touch, so now that's what the players expect. This really needs to be fixed

That second touch appeared to be a controlled pass to me.  It is too grey an area and inconsistently called, like too many other things in the NHL.
    If they are saying Caps didnt have control that's fine but if that is the case then how is it an unassisted goal.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: washcapsfan on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:31:00 PM Eastern
Oshie signs the big contract, then becomes average...
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:31:41 PM Eastern
on a delayed penalty the rule book says control, not touch. Yet for years now the league has gone by touch, so now that's what the players expect. This really needs to be fixed

That second touch appeared to be a controlled pass to me.  It is too grey an area and inconsistently called, like too many other things in the NHL.
    If they are saying Caps didnt have control that's fine but if that is the case then how is it an unassisted goal.

That's a pretty good point maaco.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:34:27 PM Eastern
Either the refs blew the call or the scorekeepers blew it. They contradict each other. Whatever, we sucked and didnt deserve to win this game.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:34:31 PM Eastern
You can't expect to win them all at home and 10 straight was great, but THAT was a piss-poor effort by the boys.  Not many guys brought it tonight.


I have never complained about a loss if it was an honest effort while doing so. That's been the problem the past several years
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:35:45 PM Eastern
Oshie signs the big contract, then becomes average...


he was playing well before the last concusion
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:37:38 PM Eastern
oh great job Rush, now May is doing the post game from the ice
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:37:48 PM Eastern
I don’t know why Trotz does not put Beagle out to take the faceoff when we have pulled the goalie. He had Backstrom take it and he lost is cleanly. Then they have another face off 10 seconds later and he keeps Backstrom out who loses it again and they score. Seems pretty basic.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: ArJunaZ on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:42:16 PM Eastern
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Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 09:58:04 PM Eastern
I don’t know why Trotz does not put Beagle out to take the faceoff when we have pulled the goalie. He had Backstrom take it and he lost is cleanly. Then they have another face off 10 seconds later and he keeps Backstrom out who loses it again and they score. Seems pretty basic.
   Well Beagle lost more faceoffs than he won tonight. He was even worse last game. Backstrom was our best center on faceoffs tonight.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Beaglefan2 on Thursday January 11, 2018, 10:00:22 PM Eastern
Well, Backstrom lost two big ones when they counted. I would take Beagle over Backstrom for any important faceoff.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Thursday January 11, 2018, 10:10:09 PM Eastern
  We needed offense so I assume that's why Beagle wasn't on the ice. I probably would have used Beagle anyway.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Rush on Thursday January 11, 2018, 11:21:08 PM Eastern
Out-fucking-standing.  Hey Koker .. you asked why Carlson wasn't on the All-Star squad.  That might have been a good reason right there.


Hey dp!
Joe B mentioned that Locker was also SUPER pissed at Carly not making the All Stars! 🤣🤣😂🤣 Locker, by the way, didn’t say jack shit about the painfully obvious turnover! AND the one Carlson had, just a few nites ago, in our defensive zone, Locker played it down, very casually, saying, no problem, this happens from time to time!
I JUST DONT GET IT!! Where the media love comes from for this guy!
His high assist total is appreciable, in its own right, but it has a HUGE CAVEAT!! It’s not like any of Carly’s assists are from some kind of spectacular pass, or having some above average instinct on a play where he has some great anticipation of something!! ANYONE with half a hockey brain can see this, routinely played out in almost every game the caps play!
He deserves no title better than “He is present on the ice”, when he dishes the puck off,  to three or four of some of the highest octane offensive players in the league in the last few seasons!
I’ll be the first to admit that the OVER-EXAGGERATED media hype he gets, SO UNDESERVEDLY, does drive my dislike of him, even higher!! You’ll RARELY, very RARELY, hear any specific media talk about his defensive play!! I said SPECIFIC, as in detailed commentary. Because there’s NOTHING THERE, that would support the general terms they use that he’s a “good defenseman”! They immediately go to his POINTS total!!! That says it all, for me!! And here’s my Carly acronym, on getting the Norris trophy...😂😂


N-imrod
O-verrated
R-etard
R-egularly
I-nhales
S-ensimilla


T-errible
R-eliability (against)
O-pponents
P-ressure
H-igh (as a kite)
Y-ear (in, year out)


Damn shame!


Rush

Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Rush on Thursday January 11, 2018, 11:24:09 PM Eastern
I don’t know why Trotz does not put Beagle out to take the faceoff when we have pulled the goalie. He had Backstrom take it and he lost is cleanly. Then they have another face off 10 seconds later and he keeps Backstrom out who loses it again and they score. Seems pretty basic.


👍👍👍
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Rush on Thursday January 11, 2018, 11:36:42 PM Eastern
oh great job Rush, now May is doing the post game from the ice


LMFAO Alta!
He’s been down there all game! Rob Carlin and the other guy,(forget his name) we’re doing the show inbetween periods, and the crowed seemed ok!
I get to plead the fifth, as I didn’t make it to the game tonite! LOL


Rush
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: DC_1908 on Friday January 12, 2018, 08:26:50 AM Eastern
Well, Backstrom lost two big ones when they counted. I would take Beagle over Backstrom for any important faceoff.
Agreed . . . Nicks good but nowhere near the elite class year after year Beagle is in, if not leads.


But on the other hand, as a “first liner”, “all star”, “jersey selling super star”, making near 10, mil a year    you HAVE TO WIN those when your taking crucial face offs  instead of an elite face off guy. 


Now naybe Nick has better numbers against the opponent, maybe Beagle had an off night or minor injury . .   we don’t know.  But if you’re standing in for one of the best in the league. and the “1st Line” high dollar center, and almost 10yr vet,  failing twice is simply not an option nor forgiven
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday January 12, 2018, 09:09:30 AM Eastern
   Beagle hasnt been good in the faceoff circle the past couple games. That is not good. When Beagle doesn't do well on faceoffs he becomes a liability.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Mickstix on Friday January 12, 2018, 11:18:50 AM Eastern
So what was the penalty everyone was talking about, that Ovie should of known about? Just from reading it sounds like someone from the bench threw him a stick or something?  Is that the same one that should of been blown dead?
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: DC_1908 on Friday January 12, 2018, 11:31:41 AM Eastern
   Beagle hasnt been good in the faceoff circle the past couple games. That is not good. When Beagle doesn't do well on faceoffs he becomes a liability.
He’s been one of the best in the league the past few years.


The biggest challenge and increase of bad games like these is not only the “rule of the year” change to the face offs, but to the lack of depth of two way forwards that can take faceoffs.


In the past we had Brouwer, Fehr (eventually),Ward, and others along with Nick who could take, win, get tossed back up, force match up changes etc.  This year, the most depth we have is Willie, who while I’m a big Wilson supporter, is probably a couple years away from the responsibility Beagle has.


With that being said, it just points to Beagles heavy workload with zero room for errors or off nights
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: Maacoshark on Friday January 12, 2018, 04:48:12 PM Eastern
By heavy workload I assume you are talking about his defensive responsibilities. I doubt there is another player in the league that starts in the defensive zone as often as Beagle does. Definitely the highest defensive zone start on the Caps. I think Stephenson is 2nd highest on the Caps. Trotz must have faith in him.
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: DC_1908 on Friday January 12, 2018, 06:22:18 PM Eastern
By heavy workload I assume you are talking about his defensive responsibilities. I doubt there is another player in the league that starts in the defensive zone as often as Beagle does. Definitely the highest defensive zone start on the Caps. I think Stephenson is 2nd highest on the Caps. Trotz must have faith in him.
Yep, damn right!!!


There are few players in the league that can handle the amount of responsibility Beagle has because two of the three other centers are incapable of it
Title: Re: GDT#44 Hurricanes @ Capitals 2018-01-11 7pm EST NBCSPW
Post by: alta on Friday January 12, 2018, 07:19:36 PM Eastern
So what was the penalty everyone was talking about, that Ovie should of known about? Just from reading it sounds like someone from the bench threw him a stick or something?  Is that the same one that should of been blown dead?


well, at the time I was listening on the radio so that's information I got. Apparently Willy broke a stick while close to the bench, so OV tossed one over the boards. Technically handing one over is ok but not tossing one. There were also too many men on the ice at the same time, so the zebras could've called that instead. But they chose to pull an obscure rule out that it appears no one has seen called in years, that would be what caused the confusion