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2021 Trade Deadline and Roster Moves
capsfanpdx:
--- Quote from: canadiancapman on Monday April 12, 2021, 10:16:24 PM Eastern ---Anyone know what kempny's status is right now. It would be nice to have him back for the playoffs.
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I like Kempny but his injury doesn't bode well for a great return. It is just tough.
Injury Progress
richkrt99:
I keeping reading posts (elsewhere) about Mantha being lazy and inconsistent, and didn't score enough in Detroit, and Caps were idiots for letting a talent like Vrana go. :wtf:
But...Manth was on a trash team, so his stats are not going to be like he's playing with Tampa or Colorado or the Caps who score a lot of goals. Or like on a team with multiple good scoring lines. Detroit has 99 goals this year (ouch). Mantha has 11g and 10A for 21 points making him the best and most balanced scorer on the team.
Nobody on that team has more than 11 goals or 22 points TOTAL. Larkin has 8G, 14A. Hronek has 2G, 20A, Fabbri 10G 8A, Erne 11G 6A, etc.
It's easier to match up against teams like Detroit with only a few good scoring players, so it's easier to focus on them and shut them down.
I'm not saying Mantha would be a 30g guy somewhere else, but he was the best scorer on the team so that's got to come from somewhere. He scored 95G, 194 pts in 302 NHL games. That's .314 GPG and per game and .642 pts per game, all on a bottom feeder team. Vrana has 76G 81A in 284 games giving him .267 GPG and .552 pts per game and that's with Washington.
I would expect Mantha would score more with Washington than he did with Detroit based on the level of talent and scoring on both squads.
Vrana by comparison has 76G and 157pts in 284 games with the Caps (on a loaded team) and 11g, 14A this year on one of the best teams in hockey. I'm not knocking Vrana, but he and Mantha scored almost exactly the same number of goals/points, and Vrana is a very good team and is defensive liability almost anywhere on the ice.
Plus with his size Mantha brings more to the table. Forecheck, mucking, big shot, etc. Basically a true power forward (and a BIG one) which are very hard to come by these days.
Time will tell, but I'm hoping Mantha can make a really big impact here - especially when it comes to playoff style hockey. Detroit last made the playoffs in 2016 which is about when Mantha started (he played 60 games that year)
AND....If Vrana were living up to his great potential everyone keeps touting....He would have 25goals this season and he would still be here.
Geez....defending the guy already and he has yet to play a minute with Washington.
alta:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Tuesday April 13, 2021, 05:47:23 PM Eastern ---
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I personally don't think this was a year to go all in the way the Caps did, because the playoffs are going to be a crapshoot at best given that they go into the playoffs with Zero experience in net. There is another problem with acquiring Mantha, not for now but down the line: His salary cap hit for the next 3 years will be $5.7 million. That isn't ridiculously exorbitant, but it makes the Caps' salary structure even more top-heavy than it already is. The Caps are going to be really squeezed to fill out a viable roster within the cap. It looks as though they are going to have to offload someone like Oshie or Orlov somehow to make it work. Of course, going even bigger and offloading a Kuznetsov or Carlson would go a long way toward relieving the logjam, but I just don't see the organization doing that.
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If it were me, I'd get rid of Carlsons contract. He doesn't bring anything that can't easily be replaced defensively, and we've had guys fill in at PP1 QB that did just as well there to. Keeping Seigs would've been that answer, at least for a year or two until a couple guys in Hershey are ready.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Tuesday April 13, 2021, 05:47:23 PM Eastern ---I don't hate Mantha. You really like to put words in people's mouths that they don't say.
I just mentioned that word from Detroit and the league is that he has been inconsistent and his effort level has been reported as lower than expected at times. I'm sure the Caps made this trade figuring to get a player who is much more motivated now that he is playing important games. Otherwise, they way, way overpaid.
Now if Glendening had been included in the trade, it would have been much more even, though the team really wouldn't have room for both him and Dowd. If I'm going to judge whether word I hear from professionals around the league, including from the team that he has played for, will carry more or less weight than the opinions you express, you can probably guess which way I'm going.
I personally don't think this was a year to go all in the way the Caps did, because the playoffs are going to be a crapshoot at best given that they go into the playoffs with Zero experience in net. There is another problem with acquiring Mantha, not for now but down the line: His salary cap hit for the next 3 years will be $5.7 million. That isn't ridiculously exorbitant, but it makes the Caps' salary structure even more top-heavy than it already is. The Caps are going to be really squeezed to fill out a viable roster within the cap. It looks as though they are going to have to offload someone like Oshie or Orlov somehow to make it work. Of course, going even bigger and offloading a Kuznetsov or Carlson would go a long way toward relieving the logjam, but I just don't see the organization doing that.
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No, i just call you out on your phony arrogance, & watch you immediately play a victim in an attempt to distract from being called out. The exact pattern is guaranteed.
By the way, I said what your saying 2-3 yrs ago. What this does is give us a better player for two years without having an RFA in Varna, its NOT a rental to go all in this year.
Chaos43:
--- Quote from: canadiancapman on Monday April 12, 2021, 10:16:24 PM Eastern ---Anyone know what kempny's status is right now. It would be nice to have him back for the playoffs.
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For what possible reason? I think he is done here.
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