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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #40 on: Sunday October 11, 2020, 01:00:44 PM Eastern »
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #41 on: Sunday October 11, 2020, 01:03:04 PM Eastern »
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #42 on: Monday October 12, 2020, 10:11:23 AM Eastern »
Henrik Lundqvist - I give this signing a solid B. Definitely not my ideal goalie signing because I feel like this guy brings more "veteran experience" and "brand name recognition" than actual, game-stealing ability. But when taking into consideration our limited cap space and when considering the pool of UFA goalies, getting Lundqvist for $1.5M is probably the best move we could have done. He can split games with Samsonov, but I'd still consider our goalie situation somewhat uncertainty. Does Sammy bounce back from injury and continue his solid play/growth from last year? Does Lundqvist still perform solidly or does age cause him to continue his decline?

Justin Schultz - I give this signing maybe a C. It feels like a lot of money to pay for a player who has a lot of uncertainty around him.

Trevor van Riemsdyk - I give this signing a B+. He's not going to blow you away with his skills, but we got him at a bargain bin price of $800k. He seems to be a solid bottom pair right handed defenseman. Can move the puck, which should fit with Lavi's style.

Our defense corps is now Carlson, Orlov, Dillon, Schultz, Jensen, van Riemsdyk, Siegenthaler (not signed officially but RFA we're trying to sign), Fehervary. Kempny is injured and I wish we could just get rid of the guy. It doesn't feel like the most spectacular defense, but I'm willing to see if Schultz and TvR can prove themselves.

We now need a 4th line forward and could probably aim to replace either Hags or Panik for someone who can bring offense to the 3rd line. Hopefully GMBM is aiming to make those moves soon.


As of today, the most exciting move we've made during the offseason is hiring Lavi. I think that was the move that has the most potential to help us take that next step. None of the signings we've made above are game changers


I agree on all of this, although I really don't know Shultz so I would not comment other than he's a risk based on health.  I like the Lundqvist move for the same reasons, although I do believe he as declined somewhat.  But he is also suffered playing with poor D at times in his career so maybe that a plus for here...he's used to it.
I like the Trevor move - nothing but upside there.


Agree 100% the best improvement we could make was a HC.


I worry a little with the Paul Ladue signing.  Makes me think they won't resign Ziggy, but I can't believe that.  I'd rather see them trade Jenson than lose Ziggy.  Maybe that's the plan; trade Jenson to free up money to sign Ziggy (and a forward)


I like most of the moves we are making - seems to be addressing our needs with what we have in Salary Cap.
Other than overpaying on some contracts (Johhny Q, Orlov, Kuzy), I think GMBM has made excellent transactions over his tenure to address the needs of the team.  Although at the time I did not hate the Kuzy deal - it was too much money, but we needed him at 2c/1c desperately.  We had to sign him and we don't have a Cup without him.  Johhny Q I think was too much money, but he has steadily improved his game over the last 5-6 seasons.  He is the golden child D for the Caps.  They have loved him from day one.  Orlov was just too much for what you get.  If he could cut out the bonehead plays and total lapses at times, then I'd feel better about him.


Hey its almost mid-October....shouldn't we be starting the season soon  :(


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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #43 on: Monday October 12, 2020, 12:31:36 PM Eastern »
These high dollar contracts really look bad now with the salary cap frozen for three years. Tough I do think freezing the cap will be very beneficial in the long run, it's going to be a pain in the ass to work around for the next two years.


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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #44 on: Monday October 12, 2020, 12:56:36 PM Eastern »

I agree on all of this, although I really don't know Shultz so I would not comment other than he's a risk based on health.  I like the Lundqvist move for the same reasons, although I do believe he as declined somewhat.  But he is also suffered playing with poor D at times in his career so maybe that a plus for here...he's used to it.
I like the Trevor move - nothing but upside there.


Agree 100% the best improvement we could make was a HC.


I worry a little with the Paul Ladue signing.  Makes me think they won't resign Ziggy, but I can't believe that.  I'd rather see them trade Jenson than lose Ziggy.  Maybe that's the plan; trade Jenson to free up money to sign Ziggy (and a forward)


I like most of the moves we are making - seems to be addressing our needs with what we have in Salary Cap.
Other than overpaying on some contracts (Johhny Q, Orlov, Kuzy), I think GMBM has made excellent transactions over his tenure to address the needs of the team.  Although at the time I did not hate the Kuzy deal - it was too much money, but we needed him at 2c/1c desperately.  We had to sign him and we don't have a Cup without him.  Johhny Q I think was too much money, but he has steadily improved his game over the last 5-6 seasons.  He is the golden child D for the Caps.  They have loved him from day one.  Orlov was just too much for what you get.  If he could cut out the bonehead plays and total lapses at times, then I'd feel better about him.


Hey its almost mid-October....shouldn't we be starting the season soon  :(


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I would note that Schultz and Van Riemsdyk were added to the Caps' roster virtually instantaneously.  Schilling and Ladue were not.  Schilling's contract is definitely two-way (NHL/AHL salaries), so he is going to be AHL depth.  Ladue's contract was not stipulated as to whether it was one- or two-way, but I'd bet it was two-way because of his history and his absence from the roster.


Carr's contract was two-way as well, so that one can bet that the significant forward move (if there is one) is yet to come.


Siegenthaler WILL be resigned, 100%.  He has no leverage, and he isn't THAT good that someone will be signing him to an offer sheet, an exceedingly rare occurrence.

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #45 on: Monday October 12, 2020, 01:52:32 PM Eastern »
Travis Boyd is now a Leaf for at least one year
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #46 on: Monday October 12, 2020, 02:06:22 PM Eastern »
not Capitals related, but interesting. I wouldn't think Schmitty was on the market, but if he is have the Caps looked into it...


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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #47 on: Monday October 12, 2020, 05:30:33 PM Eastern »
I would love it if they could get Schmidt back!!  That would correct one of the biggest mistakes this franchise has made. I have been an Orlov fan but given the choice between the two, I would take Schmitty in a second. Now if we could just dump Carlson and keep both Schmitty and Orlov.....

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #48 on: Monday October 12, 2020, 09:13:01 PM Eastern »
Interestingly, now Carr HAS been added to the Caps roster.  It's hard to envision that he would be given serious consideration for a roster spot in Washington.  But if he makes the roster at this point, why don't all the blue line signings make it too?

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #49 on: Monday October 12, 2020, 11:36:04 PM Eastern »
Interestingly, now Carr HAS been added to the Caps roster.  It's hard to envision that he would be given serious consideration for a roster spot in Washington.  But if he makes the roster at this point, why don't all the blue line signings make it too?


I doubt LaDue plays much at the NHL level for us. Carlson Orlov Dillon and Schultz I feel like are fairly locked in as the top 4. I think Jensen, TVR, Siegs, and Fehervary may fight for positions 5 and 6. If I were GMBM, I might try to see if someone would take Jensen off my hands. Or maybe I'd see if he gets his mojo back with Lavi as HC. It doesn't hurt to have a glut of NHL-ready defensemen, especially when it comes to playoffs and potential injuries. Kempny I definitely want to ship off if anyone would be willing to take him, but he's on LTIR anyway so it's not like his cap hit will hurt us much.


Right now the forward ranks needs work. Assuming cap relief from Kempny on LTIR (or we trade him fingers crossed), that should free up about $2+ million of cap space. That makes room for 2 solid 4th liners as the 12 and 13th forwards. But as I mentioned before, we do need an offensive punch on the 3rd line. I do think Panik becomes the odd man out, and trading him gives us $2.7 million to play with for a replacement. I think he might be the odd man out because I could see Hagelin's speed working better for Laviolette's likely up-tempo forecheck. Having a speed merchant on that line might be helpful, especially with a winger who can actually finish.

Unfortunately, I feel like the list of free agent RW that could be signed for less than $3 million is not very impressive. And I'm not sure what's available via trade.


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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday October 13, 2020, 05:31:01 PM Eastern »
I read where Vegas is super cap strapped. Like 2 mil over or something? Weird they chose Schmitty to move, but Im sure that's what it was, a salary cap move.


Bummer the Caps didn't move someone like Orlov and try to get him. Im still not sure what Orlov does to earn 5.1 per.. Hell, Im not sure what he does to earn 2 or 3 tbh..

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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday October 14, 2020, 08:35:55 PM Eastern »
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #54 on: Thursday October 15, 2020, 11:46:02 AM Eastern »
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #55 on: Thursday October 15, 2020, 12:14:34 PM Eastern »

THe Caps have to sign Ziggy.  Although the Caps current roster (excluding Ziggy) is $1.3mil  OVER the cap already.  Now Kempney being injured won't count (he's at 2.5) and that cap total includes Copely at 1.1m
That cap is a total of 21 players but does not include Ziggy or Ledue currently.


WHEN Ziggy is signed then Ladue will surely be AHL?  Ziggy makes the 7th D.  No way you carry 8


Problem is, we are 1.3 over Capspace NOW and have only 21 guys on the roster;  only three LW (Ovie, Vrana, Haggs) and four RW (Wilson, Oshie, Panik, Hathaway) two of which are 4th line guys.  There would be 7 d if you count Ziggy (and Not Ladue or Kempney)
SO we need another winger, but we don't really have the cap space without moving someone.
Subtract Ladue and Copely and that shaves 2.0mil, and Kempney another 2.5 for a total of 4.5 reduction bringing us to 3.0m under cap
Add Ziggy at 1.0 and you have about 2 mil to work with NOW but that's with a 21 man roster with 7 D and two goalies. (and excludes Kempney's 2.5)


Unless the Caps move someone, they have 2.0 mil for another winger or bring up couple youngins.


I don't see the Caps moving a D unless it's Jensen.  They have question marks already with two new guys in Van Reims and Schultz, so I doubt they part with Orlov even if they could move his 5.1 salary.


Am I mistaken, but don't teams normally carry 22-23 guys on the roster (and dress 18 for a game)
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #56 on: Thursday October 15, 2020, 12:37:37 PM Eastern »
The Caps need to dump someone to make cap space. I think it’s gonna be a Dman, and not the one that should go.

with the salery cap being stagnant for the next three years it would’ve been nice if the league put in a means to fudge with it a bit, like the luxury tax MLB used to run
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #57 on: Saturday October 17, 2020, 12:51:24 PM Eastern »
A look at what the Caps new defense looks like, they don't have the cap space to make any more changes...

https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/16/https-sagueneens-com-article-les-parties-des-divisions-est-et-ouest-reportees-jusquau-28-octobre/




but the biggest question still hasn't been addressed, when will the next season start
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday October 21, 2020, 08:58:50 PM Eastern »
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Re: Capitals off season moves and draft picks
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday October 21, 2020, 10:05:09 PM Eastern »
Siegs is a Cap for one more year...


https://novacapsfans.com/2020/10/21/capitals-re-sign-jonas-siegenthaler-to-one-year-800000-contract/


Giddyup.


That's a good move IMO. 


Jensen has to be gone.  The Caps need the cap space. Although my math doesn't jive with what's reported in this article.
Sportstrac shows Caps over by 1.3 m with Kempney on the roster (and not yet Ziggy). 
Kempney won't count while on LTIR, so my math shows Caps are 400k under.  If they move Jensen, Caps can spend his 2.5m on a forward.  They don't run into a problem until Kempney returns and that is at least 6 months down the road.  Who knows where we will be by then.


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