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Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« on: Tuesday January 30, 2018, 08:33:32 AM Eastern »
That time of year again, March 3 is coming up . . .


Buyers, Sellers, Trades, Market, Market Value, Pricing, Rentals, needs, wants, predictions. . . .


What moves should the Caps make, will the Caps make, how much will they pay, will it work?



Here we go . . .
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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday January 30, 2018, 08:57:04 AM Eastern »
The most talked about move for the Caps our old shot from the point Mike Green https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capitals-insider/wp/2018/01/29/the-red-wings-mike-green-may-be-on-the-move-soon-could-he-land-back-with-the-capitals/?utm_term=.5e7eb5b9bd49


Now this can make sense.  Rather its a contract year, maturity, system, organization, team mates, fellow defenseman quality, or whatever, Grren has been twice the Defenseman, not just the fourth forward he was here.


So unlike Shattenkrap, if Green played like he Detroit, he'd come in to be our best all around Dman  (particularly as Niskaken has apparently checked out).


However, the asking price will be steep, more than likely the top prospect and/or first round pick range: [size=78%]https://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2017/11/21/16687534/red-wings-oilers-nhl-trade-rumors-kings-ransom-mike-green-jesse-puljujarvi-mcdavid-for-ericsson[/size]


Given our depleted prospects and picks, and the near fact that even most delusional optimist with a 24 IV drip of Caps Marketing Kool Aid "We have a chance" fan can deny:  we are more than one Dman from being a serious Cup threat.


So this could come down to GMBetaMale vs Ken Holland. . . and that is not a matchup GMBetaMAle will win.  I can very easily see GMBetaMales need to make the biggest deal at the deadline, and for a fan favorite no less, that he will not only pay an insane price for Green, but will give away something that he and the Caps don't think much of, who will then turn into a solid pro for the Wings. 


So well see, but the only way I see this not happening is the Caps have nothing the Wings want, or another team bids more than GMBetaMale can whilst still dressing 20 players.

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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday January 30, 2018, 09:43:45 AM Eastern »
I thought the trade deadline was February 26 but I could be wrong.  As for trading for Mike Green, I pretty much agree with what you said.  He definitely would be an upgrade over Bowey but  I think the price will be way too high plus I am not sure we could fit him under the salary cap unless Detroit retained part of his salary.  If we could get him for no more than a second round pick and a grade B prospect I would be for it but I definitely would not trade our 1st round pick or a grade A prospect which we do not have many of. 

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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday January 30, 2018, 04:12:00 PM Eastern »
I haven't been fond of rentals in years. Also, this team can't afford to trade anything for one. The only move I would make is for a defenseman, but why bring in one when you need three. I wouldn't be surprised if the Caps do nothing at the deadline this year.
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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday January 30, 2018, 06:40:55 PM Eastern »
I'm waiting to see when they start bringing in robots that can play a full 60 minutes.  One day the Stanley Cup will go to the team with the best programmers. Or maybe the players will be at home in front of their XBOX Kinect controlling the players on the ice, to keep some human element in the game.

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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday January 30, 2018, 07:52:14 PM Eastern »
I wouldn’t be surprised either, but I doubt it will be for a lack of trying.  When it comes down to it, we just don’t have that many desirable assets. Kuzy, Orlov, Burma, Holts, Oshie all have contracts that will be had to move.  Hooks, Eller, Djoos, Browery or Connolly won’t be enough on their own to get much significant done.  Which leaves Carlson or Willie.  Moving Carlson wouldn’t make much sense unless it was for a better Dman and cap space.

[/size]Willie though,  a good GM wouldn’t trade a player like Willie unless he had at least three like him, but we don’t have a good GM

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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday January 30, 2018, 07:53:29 PM Eastern »
I'm waiting to see when they start bringing in robots that can play a full 60 minutes.  One day the Stanley Cup will go to the team with the best programmers. Or maybe the players will be at home in front of their XBOX Kinect controlling the players on the ice, to keep some human element in the game.

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Well that would stop the concussion fad wouldn’t it?

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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday January 30, 2018, 08:43:22 PM Eastern »
I'm waiting to see when they start bringing in robots that can play a full 60 minutes.  One day the Stanley Cup will go to the team with the best programmers. Or maybe the players will be at home in front of their XBOX Kinect controlling the players on the ice, to keep some human element in the game.

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You are probably right but it won’t happen in my lifetime so I don’t have to worry about it.
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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday January 31, 2018, 07:39:38 PM Eastern »
Oh, please don't bring Green back.  He is another Shattenkirk - with some offensive talent, but weak on defense.  Didn't we learn our lesson last year?  To make it worse, Green just reunites a big part of the Young Guns and we need to move on with fresh players. 

Besides, we stink at deadline deals.  Nearly every single one of them has been a disaster.  We are already showing the lack of a decent farm system and giving away more assets on lopsided, overpriced trades is just plain stupid.

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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday January 31, 2018, 08:47:41 PM Eastern »
Oh, please don't bring Green back.  He is another Shattenkirk - with some offensive talent, but weak on defense.  Didn't we learn our lesson last year?  To make it worse, Green just reunites a big part of the Young Guns and we need to move on with fresh players. 

Besides, we stink at deadline deals.  Nearly every single one of them has been a disaster.  We are already showing the lack of a decent farm system and giving away more assets on lopsided, overpriced trades is just plain stupid.
Agreed,


I just don’t trust GMBetaMale and Monumental Entertainment not to go get both a big name, and bring a former player who just lit up the All Star Game.


Unfortunately, I think the only way this doesn’t happen is Holland gets a better deal than The Caps can offer without calling up half of Hershey.

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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #11 on: Friday February 09, 2018, 10:36:30 AM Eastern »
Rangers waive Brendan Smith (....?....), on his birthday.  Now I’m all for being unemotional and dismissive to sensitivity, but that’s a dick move even for me!


 https://www.sbnation.com/2018/2/8/16991348/nhl-waivers-brendan-smith-rangers-marcus-kruger-hurricanes


He signed a pretty hefty contract, but, if we got him he’d an upgrade to most of our D, provided he gave a damn unlike he did in New York


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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #12 on: Friday February 09, 2018, 10:40:59 AM Eastern »
This is worrisome, Rangers send letter to fans confirming rebuild


Yep, another team we couldn’t beat, tried to model our team after, hoped to compete with, has realized the “high contract speed and finesse” fad is ending and changing as they can.




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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #13 on: Friday February 09, 2018, 11:25:05 AM Eastern »
This is worrisome, Rangers send letter to fans confirming rebuild


Yep, another team we couldn’t beat, tried to model our team after, hoped to compete with, has realized the “high contract speed and finesse” fad is ending and changing as they can.


and you and I were ridiculed for wanting to sign John Scott. It appears we were ahead of the curve
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« Reply #14 on: Friday February 09, 2018, 04:01:05 PM Eastern »

and you and I were ridiculed for wanting to sign John Scott. It appears we were ahead of the curve
Yep! More so everyone else was behind it

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Re: Trade Deadline Updates,Rumors and laugh at Eklund
« Reply #17 on: Saturday February 10, 2018, 12:32:10 PM Eastern »
Heh I was just posting/ranting about this  :lol:


why rant? I think it's a good deal at a good price
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« Reply #18 on: Saturday February 10, 2018, 01:13:31 PM Eastern »

why rant? I think it's a good deal at a good price
For several reasons, but it comes down to could we have gotten more for less? Or could he have gotten more, and if not why 5 years?


The biggest question though, is why so close to the deadline?


This contract is all but untradable.  Had it been two years that’s one thing, but 5 makes it very hard, almost impossible to move

Let’s face it, we’re not in the position to afford the “Keep the band together” luxury



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« Reply #19 on: Saturday February 10, 2018, 02:55:01 PM Eastern »
$3.5 a year is cheap, I'd lock that in for 5 years over 2 or 3 every day of the week, and Eller looks like his game is still improving. Also, at the end of 5 this player at this price is not a big deal if you gotta let him walk
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