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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #100 on: February 24, 2020, 03:05:51 PM »

Case closed. Best trade we ever made!
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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #101 on: February 24, 2020, 03:35:51 PM »
Case closed. Best trade we ever made!
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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2020, 05:16:49 PM »
Apparently the Caps moved Djoos to the Ducks.  Don't know for what -- probably some kind of mid - low draft pick.  I'd guess a 5th or 6th, if I were going to take a stab at it.




OOPS - not a draft pick.  RW Daniel Sprong.  Looks like a depth for depth trade.


FWIW, Sprong was a 2nd round draft pick of the Pens in 2015.  Hasn't panned out.

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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2020, 05:22:58 PM »
Apparently the Caps moved Djoos to the Ducks.  Don't know for what -- probably some kind of mid - low draft pick.  I'd guess a 5th or 6th, if I were going to take a stab at it.




OOPS - not a draft pick.  RW Daniel Sprong.  Looks like a depth for depth trade.


FWIW, Sprong was a 2nd round draft pick of the Pens in 2015.  Hasn't panned out.


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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2020, 07:00:28 PM »
Uh, yea, the wife pic has curved my enthusiasm as well..  :uh-huh:  Wonder if she can score?  :wackysmile:  Or is "D" her game?  :huh: :snicker:

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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #105 on: February 24, 2020, 07:14:43 PM »
Djoos appears to be an AHL move, at this point...


https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/02/24/caps-trade-christian-djoos-to-anaheim-ducks-san-diego-gulls/




Iím not sold on the Kovi move. The only thing I can see is depth for an injury.
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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #106 on: February 24, 2020, 09:34:52 PM »
Djoos appears to be an AHL move, at this point...


https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/02/24/caps-trade-christian-djoos-to-anaheim-ducks-san-diego-gulls/




Iím not sold on the Kovi move. The only thing I can see is depth for an injury.




In theory, I would agree with you Alta, but I think as a practical matter, that ain't gonna happen.  You don't get someone like him to sit on the bench, especially not with the Russian connection on this team.  Kovalchuk is going to be inserted somewhere on a consistent basis and someone is going to the bench.  But you and I and others as well struggle to envision where he might fit and what might happen to lines and their purpose once he is inserted (e.g., if he is on the 3rd line the shutdown nature of Hagelin/Eller/Panik is gone; if he is in the top 6, who moves down and where do they move to?)


What do you think of this move?  Insert Kovalchuk onto the #2 line with Backstrom and Vrana, and bump Oshie down to the #3 line, which may give it scoring punch, and Oshie is still defensibly responsible so maybe it can keep its shutdown nature.


The one argument I can see for the Kovalchuk acquisition is that the forwards haven't been playing all that well recently, either as lines or in tandem with the defense, so maybe Kovalchuk is an acquisition designed to relight the fire -- a motivational spark, even though we struggle to see how it plays out tactically.

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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #107 on: February 24, 2020, 09:45:47 PM »
Ya know, Oshie to the third line is something I hadnít considered.  He has shown good chemistry with Eller and that may give you another potential scoring line without sacrificing any defense. 


Youíd definitely lose some defense on the second line, but would hopeful Backstrom can keep that line stable. 

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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #108 on: February 24, 2020, 09:49:36 PM »
I just heard about the Kovalchuk trade.  Not sure the old man is the right move, but probably a good replacement for Panik.
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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #109 on: February 24, 2020, 10:16:31 PM »
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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #110 on: February 24, 2020, 11:26:11 PM »

Montreal retained 50% of his salary, we saved there and probably couldn't have got Dillon paying the whole amount. He played well in montreal which is good to see.


Draft picks are the price you pay to get guys. We didn't give up a first. We've had a history of good drafting. Didn't give up a 1st round pick. I'd like to know any other team that's drafted as well as we have in the 1st round the past 10 years, usually a late pick and we still get a great player. Wilson 14th, Forsberg 11th, kuznetsov 25th, Carlson mid 20's, johannson mid 20's, samsonov mid 20's. Don't worry too much about us having limited picks. We've got McMicheal coming who will be good. I've seen him play in London 3 times this year.


I tend to agree with you Capman, about the deal for Kovi.


Mainly, as mentioned, a combo of reasons, including the lower risk vs. reward, and although not a big production guy, heís not a gamble, either, to simply check as an insert for Panik.  I mean, why not?


The major portion of energy/chemistry, on that third line, is basically between Eller and Hagelin!  Their combined efforts, have been truly causing and creating A LOT of  both obvious, and not so obvious, POSITIVES, over ALL 200 feet of the ice, for our team!  Their duo is one of the few positive things to have been able to talk about since Christmas, actually!!


Panik, had a very small offensive flash at mid-season, but in my opinion, only APPEARS more defensively responsible, than he really is, as a result of playing alongside Eller and Hags!  Not that heís a defensive slouch, as a forward either, just that heís kind of been invisible/vanilla, and I donít think youíre gonna upset much of anything between Eller and Hags, as theyíre a very well oiled machine right now, in their own right!
So why not try Kovi on the third line, for a bit?  I donít think you want to mess with the fourth line chemistry,  and I think Rierden is too chickenshit to move anybody on the first and second lines!


 Somebody mentioned Oshie on the third line, for Panik! I actually do like the idea of that, and wouldnít see it at all as a demotion!  But itís anybodyís guess there!


 And for what itís worth, I donít think this trade compares, in any way, to the Shattenkirk debacle.  One main difference is that we WERE NOT having the defensive issues, at the time, like we do now. Secondly I think that GMBM learned a hard lesson about simply signing a big name, just because itís out there!
Additionally, what fantastic team chemistry, right now, would be at risk of being upset??  I would say, what freaking chemistry!!😂🤣


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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #111 on: February 24, 2020, 11:33:08 PM »
Ya know, Oshie to the third line is something I hadnít considered.  He has shown good chemistry with Eller and that may give you another potential scoring line without sacrificing any defense. 


Youíd definitely lose some defense on the second line, but would hopeful Backstrom can keep that line stable.


Agreed Justwin!
 It would be interesting to try, even if temporary!
 My gut says the second line may suffer, but that third line might just surprise us!


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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #112 on: February 25, 2020, 07:51:44 AM »

I tend to agree with you Capman, about the deal for Kovi.


Mainly, as mentioned, a combo of reasons, including the lower risk vs. reward, and although not a big production guy, heís not a gamble, either, to simply check as an insert for Panik.  I mean, why not?


The major portion of energy/chemistry, on that third line, is basically between Eller and Hagelin!  Their combined efforts, have been truly causing and creating A LOT of  both obvious, and not so obvious, POSITIVES, over ALL 200 feet of the ice, for our team!  Their duo is one of the few positive things to have been able to talk about since Christmas, actually!!


Panik, had a very small offensive flash at mid-season, but in my opinion, only APPEARS more defensively responsible, than he really is, as a result of playing alongside Eller and Hags!  Not that heís a defensive slouch, as a forward either, just that heís kind of been invisible/vanilla, and I donít think youíre gonna upset much of anything between Eller and Hags, as theyíre a very well oiled machine right now, in their own right!
So why not try Kovi on the third line, for a bit?  I donít think you want to mess with the fourth line chemistry,  and I think Rierden is too chickenshit to move anybody on the first and second lines!


 Somebody mentioned Oshie on the third line, for Panik! I actually do like the idea of that, and wouldnít see it at all as a demotion!  But itís anybodyís guess there!


 And for what itís worth, I donít think this trade compares, in any way, to the Shattenkirk debacle.  One main difference is that we WERE NOT having the defensive issues, at the time, like we do now. Secondly I think that GMBM learned a hard lesson about simply signing a big name, just because itís out there!
Additionally, what fantastic team chemistry, right now, would be at risk of being upset??  I would say, what freaking chemistry!!😂🤣


Rush


 
      I doubt Panik gets bumped from the lineup. My guess would be Leipsic gets bumped out.
And since Kovalchuk is naturally a lw I think he will play on the 3rd line with Eller and Panik and Hagelin gets bumped to the 4th line.

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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #113 on: February 25, 2020, 08:17:47 AM »
      I doubt Panik gets bumped from the lineup. My guess would be Leipsic gets bumped out.
And since Kovalchuk is naturally a lw I think he will play on the 3rd line with Eller and Panik and Hagelin gets bumped to the 4th line.


Agree, I think youíre very close but we shall see!

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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #114 on: February 25, 2020, 10:46:30 AM »



In theory, I would agree with you Alta, but I think as a practical matter, that ain't gonna happen.  You don't get someone like him to sit on the bench, especially not with the Russian connection on this team.  Kovalchuk is going to be inserted somewhere on a consistent basis and someone is going to the bench.  But you and I and others as well struggle to envision where he might fit and what might happen to lines and their purpose once he is inserted (e.g., if he is on the 3rd line the shutdown nature of Hagelin/Eller/Panik is gone; if he is in the top 6, who moves down and where do they move to?)


What do you think of this move?  Insert Kovalchuk onto the #2 line with Backstrom and Vrana, and bump Oshie down to the #3 line, which may give it scoring punch, and Oshie is still defensibly responsible so maybe it can keep its shutdown nature.


The one argument I can see for the Kovalchuk acquisition is that the forwards haven't been playing all that well recently, either as lines or in tandem with the defense, so maybe Kovalchuk is an acquisition designed to relight the fire -- a motivational spark, even though we struggle to see how it plays out tactically.


Oh, I have no doubt Kovi is not going to be a nightly scratch, if ever. I think the best place for him, without seeing him play with this squad, is on the 3rd line.


The Federov move made more sense than this one...
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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #115 on: February 25, 2020, 12:56:32 PM »
The interesting fact is that Kovalchuk  played together for Atlanta with Todd Rierden, thatís maybe the answer why Caps acquired him :snicker:

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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #116 on: February 25, 2020, 01:06:28 PM »
This is an interesting, albiet not unsurprising move.


Kovi, while historically an elite offense player, has rarely nor historically shown to be a blue-collar PK/Face Off winning expert.


While Iím sure Ovie, Varna, Orlov are psyched heís here, whatís gonna be the payoff?   And, will it be worth the time and scrtaches of Dowd, Panik. Lispsch or Hathaway?


Iíll be honest, thereís plausibly that Kovi can put up 20 while with the Caps.  But there a bigger chance he wont, and our line up will suffer.


None the less, hope for the best.  Just know, as sure as Carbon is an organic molecule, Kovi never was or never bill close to Sir Sergei The Fedorv

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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #117 on: February 25, 2020, 01:13:18 PM »
It appears from the morning skate that Kolvachuk will be on the 3rd line with Eller and Hagelin.  However, what I am excited about is seeing him on the 2nd PP unit.  At the morning skate they had him playing the high slot and he has a wicked shot.  It should definitely give more room for Ovie in his office because the defense will have to be aware of where Kovy is.  I am definitely excited to see him play. 

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Re: Trade Deadline- rumors
« Reply #118 on: February 25, 2020, 02:12:17 PM »
Im okay with Kovi  with Eller and Hags, but doubt that helps the shut down serviceability of that line.  I mean I don't really know Kovi, but appears to be offensive minded with his/team D not being a big concern for him (based on his career stats)


I'd even be okay trying Oshie with Hags and Eller, but would think that somewhat of a demotion for Oshie (not that he would complain)  Oshie would definitely make that a killer shutdown line and would help the scoring there too, however, Oshie is the only one currently really scoring goals on the 2nd line...okay Vranna got one SUnday...out of the last ....10-15 games?


I'd bet Panik moves to 4th line and Leipsic sits.  I like his tenacity, but Leipsic hasn't done much in the last 20 games and Panik is much bigger body


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