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G55 Flyers @ Capitals 7:00pm Sat Feb 8, 2020 NBCSWA, NBCSP
zerofox:
--- Quote from: KollieOlizig on Sunday February 09, 2020, 09:52:41 AM Eastern --- Let's face the facts. This team is very weak defensively and we might be the worst team at managing the puck. I have never seen a team turn the puck over so often.
Not all of the problem is on the defense. Our forwards cheat by leaving the zone early not giving our defencemen anyone to pass to. Teams are picking off the stretch pass at a high rate because they know it is coming.
This team is not as good as our record indicates.
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I agree with everything above.
--- Quote from: KollieOlizig on Sunday February 09, 2020, 09:52:41 AM Eastern --- I feel you guys are being too hard on Holtby. Obviously not his best game but none of the 7 goals were soft. I think it's time to stop throwing Holtby under the bus.
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This is what I don't agree with. And this isn't specific to this game. Let's for one moment forget about this game and who is to blame. This season overall, I feel like Holts has shit the bed on numerous occasions. There are some games where our play in front of him is shit, and there are some games where Holts isn't doing his job as an NHL goalie to keep us in the game. He has been BAD this season, and we can't just give him a free pass because of the Cup and Vezina and pretend he's not at fault whatsoever. In fact, he's been in decline for the past few seasons. Yes even the year we won the Cup, he was generally sub-par for most of that year. And yet, despite what is clearly a decline from his peak, we still treat him like the incumbent starter based on name and resume alone. That's part of what I have an issue with. He's been the worse performing goalie for us this season, why continue to force him to play over and over again? And if you want to argue that Sammy only has good stats because we play better in front of Sammy, then why the hell not play Sammy every game and send the message to the team that they have to play better every game?
I am NOT saying Sammy is the 2nd coming of Jesus and will be our elite starter forever. I am saying Holtby has been playing like dog shit this year, and kinda has been for the past few years, and Sammy is performing better overall and we should be playing the hot hand for now. When Sammy starts to suck, give Holts a try again. If they both suck, maybe we need to re-evaluate our goaltending situation. But as of right now, we should think of Holts as a backup and not the starter or 1A.
DC_1908:
This is how Holts should start playing and thinking
(sadly this video quality sucks, but it’s the only one I could find)
“Why the fuck do I have to do everything?” about says it all
waynerivers:
--- Quote from: ArJunaZ on Saturday February 08, 2020, 10:09:47 PM Eastern ---I hope you're wrong about the uniforms, because we have more games coming up where we'll wear them, including:
* February 10 vs. New York Islanders
* February 23 vs. Pittsburgh Penguins
* March 4 vs. Philadelphia Flyers
* March 26 vs. New York RangersI actually like the old uniform. It's my favorite.
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I hear ya but I just watched too many games where we lost in excruciating fashion wearing those things including choking away 3-1 playoff leads and losing 4 OT games at 2:30 in the morning. I just think we need something new. Here's one idea I saw that doesn't look too bad, IMO.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/5JEhNHL3Ontt-47h0K7XFw4ZlbqvvoioAhoEZeahKcMkjBN-nwtgPT0LT-8eW6VMqXwk7TT-K-a98rt-PawGu4RlFdKH9wO7qTH-6shJcxlqBCOJjQ-9zYegIram
KollieOlizig:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Sunday February 09, 2020, 10:00:55 AM Eastern ---This reminded me of the game The Wings put 7 on Patrick Roy, in his infamous “last game in Montreal”. All 19 players for Montreal flat out quit, including Roy.
His whole career he’s bailed out this shitty, pussy, lazy, move the puck to the other team, DCorps, particularly the biggest joke of a Norris candidate ever, making the saves you mentioned and keeping the all to frequent efforts to 3-2 games or even wins to get Presidents trophies.
But, there’s reality no need to worry for now. Ovie will crack 700 this year and may even hit 60 for the season, and “we’ll have a chance in the playoffs” and then Holtby won’t be a Cap anymore. But when he goes to a team we play against in the playoffs, that doesn’t have players watch breakaways from 2feet away and clears a net, our chances of winning that series will go to about zero. Then we can blame Sammy for losing a game 3-0
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This game also reminded me of that game which is why I made the comment that Holtby should ask for a trade after the game. It looks like the team has quit on Holtby and Holtby gas quit on the team. Might be time to move him.
ArJunaZ:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Sunday February 09, 2020, 10:30:50 AM Eastern ---This is how Holts should start playing and thinking
(sadly this video quality sucks, but it’s the only one I could find)
“Why the fuck do I have to do everything?” about says it all
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LMAO
How perfect!!
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