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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2019, 09:01:02 PM »
yeup, good thing the poke check worked cause that's all he's got
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2019, 09:07:53 PM »
They are strokin' John "Vezinna" Carson hard tonight!
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2019, 09:21:44 PM »
nice moves by Willy
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2019, 09:21:58 PM »
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2019, 09:22:40 PM »
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2019, 09:22:57 PM »
 :poop:

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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2019, 09:30:40 PM »
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2019, 09:32:46 PM »
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2019, 09:33:33 PM »
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2019, 09:36:10 PM »
it was sketchy until the last few minutes
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2019, 09:37:13 PM »


1st Period
11:47  Red Wings PP GOAL Fabbri, assists larkin & ZAdina   1-0 DET

2nd Period
02:19  PP GOAL 77-Oshie, assists 13-Vrana & 92-Kuznetsov   1-1 TIE
09:21  GOAL 8-Ovechkin, assists 74-Carlson & 92-Kuznetsov   2-1 WSH

3rd Period
14:23  GOAL 43-Wilson, assists 8-Ovechkin & 92-Kuznetsov   3-1 WSH
14:32  Red Wings GOAL Glendening, assist Bertuzzi   3-2 WSH
18:25  EN GOAL 8-Ovechkin, assists 77-Oshie & 33-Gudas   4-2 WSH
19:05  EN GOAL 8-Ovechkin, unassisted   5-2 WSH

FINAL:    5-2 WSH
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2019, 09:39:47 PM »
it was sketchy until the last few minutes

I never felt concerned.  Glad they turned that 1st period complacency around.
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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2019, 09:53:12 PM »
Nearly fell into the trap.. Wilson should of busted someones ass after Ovie's 2nd en goal.. That was bullshit.

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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2019, 12:48:03 AM »
Another overall good win! (Total game considered)


Notable, again, is another game where we are finding DIFFERENT ways to win, and where the more typical Caps behavior we’ve prepared our minds to see, from seasons past, when we have such an overwhelmingly SLUGGISH start, ISN’T HAPPENING!!😀


We’re all a bit too familiar with this scenario, from the last few seasons;
1) Caps travel to another city, after a BIG home win, for the 2nd game of a back-to-back situation.
2) Caps are playing a team, very low in the standings, with backup goalie, and SHOULD win easily.
3) Caps come out in 1st period, looking unmotivated, playing sloppy, lazy, low effort, hockey.
4) Caps continue to look like shit for the entire game, like they just want it over, and they lose bad.
5) Caps coach blames low energy, from BIG WIN the nite before, for loss. “Have to forget, move on”


HOLD ON A MINUTE!!.........WE WON!!
Steps #4, and #5, DIDN’T happen!!


Granted, it was Detroit, BUT, in this game, the Caps energy, and effort, INCREASED, and then, maintained, from the moment they took the ice, at the start of 2P, until it was over!


Detroit entered tonite on a 4 game losing streak, having every reason to get a win tonight, against the NHL’s top team in the league!
Caps also, could have easily. chosen to “stay the course”, at the start of the 2nd period, risking an embarrassing loss, and most of us wouldn’t have blinked an eye about it, would have rolled with it, with some common, minor, complaints  about how we are frustrated because  “it was predictable”, and similar gripes.  Hell, I would be one of the complainers, too!!


 This is just another example that this 2019 capitals team, is starting to exemplify a REAL CHANGE, in its fundamental makeup!!!  To the positive!!!


Shedding, or at least, diminishing, A LOT of those old traditional negatives, that have caused many a frustration to us fans, despite having division winning teams for several years straight, now!!


 I think it was Alan May, echoing the same sentiment tonight, that The caps are finding all different kinds of ways to win!!
 But he also added, and I agree with him, that he doesn’t feel the caps have even reached their top level YET!!


 Don’t worry, I’m not in a place with the caps, where all is perfect in fantasyland!!  Far from it!
 We commit way too many penalties, and the big fear right now for me, is a familiar one.


That is, if the caps stay on a roll, and even improve, that sometime around March, they’ll start getting complacent and cocky, heading into the playoffs!!


That’s a legitimate worry for any caps fan!  We only need mention “Presidents Trophy“, to face that ugly feeling again!


 There is still so much time left in the season, that nothing, of course, is worth predicting. For that reason, the only real thing I’d like to continue to see, is this winning caps team, continuing to win, in the refreshing new way that we are not so accustomed to watching!!


 Surely, no doubt, this really is a DIFFERENT CAPS team!! In a damn good place, right now!
 Keep it up boys!!👍


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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2019, 09:00:40 AM »

Just watched the last three games on replay.  A few things:


Seigenthaler - very impressed with his development.  He is very solid and I think is a top 4 defensemen.  I was bummed we lost Bowey (who was scratched by Detroit last night), but now I am thrilled with Seigenthaler.


Gudas - I wasn't too sure about him, but he has turned out great.  He is physical, but can skate and makes some outstanding passes.


Boyd - he will likely be the next guy sitting out when we get our guys back, but he has impressed.  He works the forecheck and can stickhandle in the corners and behind the net for some sneaky plays.


Dowd - he may be the odd man out again as well, but I like his physical play lately. He has a knack for finishing checks with the full body instead of just the glancing hit.

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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2019, 12:33:36 AM »
Just watched the last three games on replay.  A few things:


Seigenthaler - very impressed with his development.  He is very solid and I think is a top 4 defensemen.  I was bummed we lost Bowey (who was scratched by Detroit last night), but now I am thrilled with Seigenthaler.


Gudas - I wasn't too sure about him, but he has turned out great.  He is physical, but can skate and makes some outstanding passes.


Boyd - he will likely be the next guy sitting out when we get our guys back, but he has impressed.  He works the forecheck and can stickhandle in the corners and behind the net for some sneaky plays.


Dowd - he may be the odd man out again as well, but I like his physical play lately. He has a knack for finishing checks with the full body instead of just the glancing hit.


Good post, Beags.


 At the start of the season, I was really pulling for Ziggy to do well.  Through the first 15 to 20 games, I started to sour on the guy a bit.
No complaints with attitude or his effort level at all, just seeing a few too many mental errors, passing and zone clearing mistakes, etc. that didn’t lend itself to helping his cause!


But I tell you, for about the last 3 to 4 weeks, I’ve really noticed a incrementally increasing, and more COMPREHENSIVE improvement, in Siegenthaler’s defensive skills across-the-board!  Playing generally more responsible, clearing better, and even doing a little better along the boards!


 As far as Gudas goes, I had high hopes heading into the season for him already!  He has definitely exceeded expectations, and adds a very mature, decision-making, AND physical presence to his line! Very happy with Radko Gudas all around!!


Last year we often saw an experimental merry go round, shuffling 4th line forwards in and out of various games.
Boyd, Dowd, Smith-Pelly and Stephenson, (mainly), went through their fair share of “scratch-n-play”, throughout the season, obviously depending on what situation the coaches were dealing with.  In the first half of the season, you could almost see any combination of those fellas on the fourth line.


I just checked last years stats. Dowd and Stephenson each had 64 games. DSP and Boyd in the mid 50’s.
 Dowd had the most points, and best plus/minus of the four.  Both Stevenson and DSP were negative in plus/minus.


Stephenson has dropped a notch in my book, starting with the last half of last season.  He’s got a lot of speed, but he gets caught puck watching a lot, and is one of those guys, when skating on the ice, who chooses, TOO often, to cruise and glide, rather than keep his legs moving.
 This affects mainly his defensive abilities, As it causes him to lose those precious few milliseconds of reaction time, to start his legs going again!
 In Stephensons defense, once he does churn his legs, he has great acceleration, almost Hagelin-like, and sometimes it makes up for it.  Sometimes it doesn’t, and can cost us a simple puck  possession, or worse,  A high chance SOG!


With Dowd and Boyd, You get the same great effort level and hustling attitude from both guys!  I would say just the very slightest shooting accuracy would go to Boyd!
But Dowd has become an OUTSTANDING PK guy, and has scrappiness galore, both along the boards, AND, on his defensive side, is a good, play disrupter, against the opponent,


This is why I think Dowd will mostly stay at 4th line center/forward, over Boyd.  They are very close, mind you,  but when Backy, and Hagelin return, you’ll have two guys to sort out of the picture between, Panik, Stephenson, Boyd, Leipsic, Dowd, and Hathaway!


That Dowd, Leipsic, Hathaway, 4th line combo has shown to cause some real havoc on opponents when they’ve been together!!
They’ve mostly been an energized, gritty, hustling, thorn in the opponents side, especially when opponents start entry into our zone!  They get way more than their fair share of puck steals/possession changes!! The only knock on those three guys, would be a little more shot accuracy for production! (Hence, their 4th line placement)!  But for my money, I like ‘EM!!👍


 It’s going to get interesting here, when Backy and Hags return!
 It’s one of those GOOD problems for Rierden to have to deal with!


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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2019, 02:52:52 PM »
It appears that Stevenson is going to be placed on waivers as he was not on the ice this morning and with Hagelin returning from LTIR the Caps need to make a move.  Boyd was centering the 3rd line with Hagelin and Leipsic on the wings.  Backstrom apparently is still out although he no longer was wearing a non-contact jersey. 

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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2019, 04:19:39 PM »
Don't see how/why Nicky would still be out if he practiced, with full contact, today? Guess we'll find out tomorrow!

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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2019, 07:11:04 PM »
Stepho also has the problem of being the most expensive guy in that mix of Boyd/Dowd/Stepho at $800k/750k/1.05m respectively.


we are talking relative pennies in pro contracts with these figures, but with the Caps cap problem, relative pennies matter.


I've never been a big fan of Djoos, but I think his cap hit of 1.25m versus Ziggy's 710k is another nail in his NHL playing coffin.


I'd take Ziggy over Djoos at even money and think Ziggy really has improved this year and it's no contest for me.  Plus Ziggs has got some real size to him.


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Re: G28 Capitals @ Red Wings 7:00pm Sat Nov 30, 2019 NBCSWA, NHLN, FS-D
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2019, 10:08:25 PM »

Good post, Beags.


 At the start of the season, I was really pulling for Ziggy to do well.  Through the first 15 to 20 games, I started to sour on the guy a bit.
No complaints with attitude or his effort level at all, just seeing a few too many mental errors, passing and zone clearing mistakes, etc. that didn’t lend itself to helping his cause!


But I tell you, for about the last 3 to 4 weeks, I’ve really noticed a incrementally increasing, and more COMPREHENSIVE improvement, in Siegenthaler’s defensive skills across-the-board!  Playing generally more responsible, clearing better, and even doing a little better along the boards!


 As far as Gudas goes, I had high hopes heading into the season for him already!  He has definitely exceeded expectations, and adds a very mature, decision-making, AND physical presence to his line! Very happy with Radko Gudas all around!!


Last year we often saw an experimental merry go round, shuffling 4th line forwards in and out of various games.
Boyd, Dowd, Smith-Pelly and Stephenson, (mainly), went through their fair share of “scratch-n-play”, throughout the season, obviously depending on what situation the coaches were dealing with.  In the first half of the season, you could almost see any combination of those fellas on the fourth line.


I just checked last years stats. Dowd and Stephenson each had 64 games. DSP and Boyd in the mid 50’s.
 Dowd had the most points, and best plus/minus of the four.  Both Stevenson and DSP were negative in plus/minus.


Stephenson has dropped a notch in my book, starting with the last half of last season.  He’s got a lot of speed, but he gets caught puck watching a lot, and is one of those guys, when skating on the ice, who chooses, TOO often, to cruise and glide, rather than keep his legs moving.
 This affects mainly his defensive abilities, As it causes him to lose those precious few milliseconds of reaction time, to start his legs going again!
 In Stephensons defense, once he does churn his legs, he has great acceleration, almost Hagelin-like, and sometimes it makes up for it.  Sometimes it doesn’t, and can cost us a simple puck  possession, or worse,  A high chance SOG!


With Dowd and Boyd, You get the same great effort level and hustling attitude from both guys!  I would say just the very slightest shooting accuracy would go to Boyd!
But Dowd has become an OUTSTANDING PK guy, and has scrappiness galore, both along the boards, AND, on his defensive side, is a good, play disrupter, against the opponent,


This is why I think Dowd will mostly stay at 4th line center/forward, over Boyd.  They are very close, mind you,  but when Backy, and Hagelin return, you’ll have two guys to sort out of the picture between, Panik, Stephenson, Boyd, Leipsic, Dowd, and Hathaway!


That Dowd, Leipsic, Hathaway, 4th line combo has shown to cause some real havoc on opponents when they’ve been together!!
They’ve mostly been an energized, gritty, hustling, thorn in the opponents side, especially when opponents start entry into our zone!  They get way more than their fair share of puck steals/possession changes!! The only knock on those three guys, would be a little more shot accuracy for production! (Hence, their 4th line placement)!  But for my money, I like ‘EM!!👍


 It’s going to get interesting here, when Backy and Hags return!
 It’s one of those GOOD problems for Rierden to have to deal with!


Rush



Rush - good analysis. 


I'm actually starting to warm to GMBM.  He has made some good moves and I think he has a knack for the blueliners.  For instance, I hated giving up Bowey in the Jensen deal, but Ziggy has developed way more than Bowey who was scratched by the worst team in the league the other night.  His Nisky-for-Gudas deal is looking great as well.  We all saw Nisky making more and more stupid mistakes in the last couple of year and Gudas has played well.


It looks like part of out dilemma on the extra players is going to be solved by Stephensons departure soon. It will be interesting to see if we get anything for him or just lose him through waivers.  I had high hopes for him and at one point thought he could be the next Beagle, but he just doesn't have the desire.  He has the skills, just not the competitive drive.