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richkrt99:
--- Quote from: alta on Wednesday July 21, 2021, 06:34:21 PM Eastern ---I never bought 5.56/.223 dies. I can't hunt bambi(legally) in this state with a .223 and I stocked up on bulk 5.56 at a price far cheaper than I could load it at. My hornady books have 5.56 loads in them. That's why you should have multiple books from different sources :wackysmile:
since you are now a professional reloader :snicker: , I know you have a scale. Take the buffers out of your ARs and weigh them, then buy a lighter one for this batch of ammo. Not sure I can help there, I switched all my stuff to the A5 buffer system
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I hear ya. I never intended to load either 5.56 OR 9mm due to the "low cost" of ammo. Until last year...when I jumped into this pasttime and then had to wait and fight to find enough of everything to load even one caliber.
Now I load both.
I thought about the buffer spring....not sure it's worth it for a few hundred rounds. Then again....sure don't want to pull the bullets and start over.
thanks by the way...
alta:
it's far easier to put a lighter weight buffer in than it is to pull apart almost 400 rounds, if it were me I'd be buying a lighter weight buffer, only takes about 45 seconds to change one
and you may end up liking that load if it works with a lighter buffer
alta:
Rich...
one more thing, it's not a bad idea to have several buffers of different weights on hand, or just see if you can find separate weights. You can take them apart and switch the weights around to create what you need.
alta:
out of curiosity I started looking for this 23.5 gr of 4064 load. I found it in my Speer book. The book only lists a .223
Rich, you need a hornady book. The hornady book has .223, .223 service rifle(AR) and 5.56. The basic .223 load is normally implied as a bolt gun load. A bolt action gun usually can handle higher pressures than a semi auto. It just inherent to the design. I can't find a listing for 4046 for the AR. That doesn't mean you can't, it just tells me it's been evaluated as not being a good powder for the AR. I use powders in things that aren't in the books. It's perfectly safe. With enough research you begin to understand what will and what won't work. Example A: when I started using true blue they had listings for the .40 but not the 10mm. That doesn't make sense to me so I asked around and found a guy who's well known in the industry that worked up loads for the 10 in that powder with excellent results. I was also in the process of working on a load with a 125gr bullet for a .30 carbine revolver. You can't find that combo in any book but everyone I've asked said it's perfectly fine. I even had guys I trust suggest a heavier bullet. The supply shortages of late plus the covid bullshit put that on hold for now.
When browsing forums for reloading information there is always some asswipe that has zero experience with what the caliber, bullet or powder question was but has to inject he never loads anything that isn't in the book. If everyone had that attitude we'd still be shooting black powder. What's more interesting about that is, top shelf commercial ammo is hotter than the top listing in the reloading books. In order to achieve the advertised fps you must exceed the max charge in the books. I have no doubt lawyers are at fault for that, but I've not heard if anyone blowing up their guns on a regular basis using the top shelf hot ammo. Once in a blue moon a manufacturer will release a batch that's too hot, but it's rare.
when in doubt start low and work up
richkrt99:
Found me a 20% lighter spring and 2.7oz weight (the standard is 3.0 from what I read)
gonna try it for fun and keep playing with the loads.
I do have a Hornady book (I think)...and a Speer one (maybe I should look at them) :huh:
The 4064 loads actually shot fine. (and I only had 1lb of that powder and its gone).....back when I first started this new hobby it was the 1st/only rifle powder I could find at the chantilly gun show that covered both .223 and .308. Not that I have even loaded .308 yet.
It was the 4198 that gave me trouble, but after reviewing it....in a couple places, I was at the very bottom of one recommendation and .4 Grains below the bottom of another, so it will likely be fine once I work it up a bit.
I have 16lbs of it so.....gonna develop a load that works ;D
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