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BlackIce:
Just as a side note, the Avalanche just signed defenseman Sam Girard to a 7-year contract extension at $5 million AAV (straight $35 million over 7 years).
Girard is smaller than Djoos. He's a top-flight skater and puck mover, and played 20 minutes a game this past season, but still, a 160 pound defenseman?
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: justwincaps on Thursday August 01, 2019, 03:25:40 PM Eastern ---I feel ya' DC but I don't see how we keep Holtby without losing Backstrom. There's no one in the cupboard that'll come even close to replacing Backstrom. If Samsonov is as advertised [not convinced yet], then there's a potential near replacement for Holtby on the ice. What Holt's does off the ice won't be replaced. I think he's a great ambassador for the Caps but doubt that factors in to whether he comes back.
We only have Gudas coming off the books after this year and the cap is projected to only go up around $2mil, so I don't know where the Caps find the money for both 19 and 70.
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There’s a way, a smart way to do it: trade Kuzy, which they should of done long ago.
But this won’t happe. On the Caps part, he’s popular, it would show them to be moronic, (and rightfully so), and the organizational depth at center is VERY thin, and that’s being generous. Even if they don’t sign Backstrom, they ARE’NT gonna get anyone better for cheaper.
For the other team, who want him? Let alone for 7yrs @ 8mil? He’s just not worth it to anybody but Monumental. I’m pretty damn sure most non-zealot
Paying to ok players for ridiculous contracts that will end up costing us an-elite center,, our best two-way player, and an elite goalie (both of which still have a few years left), for a one way bird dancing center, a 5th forward, and “having a chance that Copley or a guy that’s never played in the NHL will become Jesus Fucking Christ in a playoff run.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Friday August 02, 2019, 11:29:17 AM Eastern ---Just as a side note, the Avalanche just signed defenseman Sam Girard to a 7-year contract extension at $5 million AAV (straight $35 million over 7 years).
Girard is smaller than Djoos. He's a top-flight skater and puck mover, and played 20 minutes a game this past season, but still, a 160 pound defenseman?
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Cause he’s an excellent PP QB, rarely screws up, and a quality two-way D-Man. The rest of there D, in general, are huge, and there very deep on D, except for ODmen.
So it makes sense in many ways. but that’s still a big contract for a 160lb player that sensible teams will have a target on.
RavenCp:
Goalies are always high risk, so many teams were burned with long term contracts. At the same time always pop up great young goalies.
zerofox:
Holtby is good, and yes he was vital to us even making the playoffs last season thanks to the abysmal coaching/play we had. But he just isn't worth the $9-10 million a year for a contract term that will likely take him to his mid-late 30s. Especially when you consider that with the loss of Mitch Korn he hasn't been the same Vezina caliber goalie he used to be. He went from averaging over .920 save percentage and a GAA in the low 2s, to averaging .910 save percentage and a GAA in the high 2s (nearly 3). And yeah not all of that is on him, because our team has played kinda crap too. But I'd rather not be paying "top 2 goalie in the league" money for someone who isn't even close at this point.
Copley is not the answer. And right now neither are Samsonov or Vanecek. But we should at least be considering a trade to get someone younger and cheaper and still solid. Because unless we plan on going balls deep on Holtby's contract next year (or unless Holtby is okay with taking a cap-friendly deal, which I doubt he would be), we're gunna get hosed when we lose him for nothing if we keep him around this season.
And listen, if there's no trade or signing available this summer, then yeah I guess we have no choice but to keep Holtby around this season. But I'd sure hate to handcuff another $9-10 million a year on another player.
The Kuznetsov, Carlson, and Oshie contracts either currently are, or will in the future, give us a headache. No need to add another contract to that list. If Holtby's fine with $6.5 million for 3-5 years then sure let's fucking do it. But fuck no to $9-10 million for 6-8 years.
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