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DC_1908:
--- Quote from: PUCKNRUSH on Thursday August 01, 2019, 02:17:26 AM Eastern ---Braden Holtby’s career, since the arrival, and thru the departure, of Trotz, and Korn, IMO, has been hands down, for me, the most difficult player performance assessment to have to ACCURATELY make on the entire team.
Mind you, I said accurately, because the opinions on Holtz run the entire spectrum. And with good reason!
Let’s cover the obvious first. He has shown himself, to possess STELLAR abilities, numerous game winning super saves, commanding, dominant, play, with incredible anticipation, and has often been UNSOLVABLE, by the opponent!
Add in two Vezinas, and superb play to win the Stanley Cup, and you have the recipe for him to be plausibly claimed as one of the Caps best goalies, in their history!
That’s the undeniable TOP side to Braden Holtby!
The negatives are way less obvious, depending on how you wanna look at, and judge, the quite complicated matrix of the, “good D/good goalie - bad D/bad goalie” relationships, and how each affect the other!
OR NOT!.....See what I mean…..very difficult to assess, with all the “ifs”, and especially all of the woulda-coulda-shouldas, that can be put on both Holtz’s performance, OR the rest of the entire CAPS team!!
We have a TON of solid evidence for game losses, where Holtz has been thrown under the bus! Yet a TON of evidence also exists for losses where Holtz has allowed in, some of the simplest frickin shots, or just looks clueless out there with his advance positioning being quite off the mark, upon review!
We also have Holtby, BOTH stepping it up in the playoffs, and NOT stepping up his play level in the playoffs!
We’ve also lost, many times, in spite of Holtz playing well, because we could NOT generate enough offense!
We’ve also won, in spite of a poor Holtby showing, because our sticks generated enough O to win!
Same can be said on both sides of the issue, regarding the D, and Holtz’s interrelationships!
IMO, there is no single, correct assessment of Braden Holtby. Firstly, because his career is still ongoing, and secondly, the mile-wide parameters of his career play, render it practically impossible to mention one side, without the other, if you seek accuracy! I say, you simply mention BOTH, (while scratching your head)! LOL!
One thing that I think can be said now, however, is that he is a different Holtby, without Mitch Korn!
Personally, I continue to go through ups and downs about him. I’m not sure that’s going to change anytime soon either!
Rush
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I’m pretty sure that Monumental doesn’t think goalies are popular or all that important.
Which would locking two “star players”, one to dance and one to not hit anybody and pass the puck, for a ridiculous eight years while snubbing one of the best goalies in the league.
13 goal games and “a chance to win another Cup”, will keep the team popular with zealots, woman, hipsters, and the 12yo and under crowd for a few more years.
Mickstix:
DC needs to get laid.. :rofl: Relax brother, they aint even laced up the skates yet!!! :uh-huh:
alta:
LoL
justwincaps:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Thursday August 01, 2019, 09:28:36 AM Eastern ---I’m pretty sure that Monumental doesn’t think goalies are popular or all that important.
Which would locking two “star players”, one to dance and one to not hit anybody and pass the puck, for a ridiculous eight years while snubbing one of the best goalies in the league.
13 goal games and “a chance to win another Cup”, will keep the team popular with zealots, woman, hipsters, and the 12yo and under crowd for a few more years.
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I feel ya' DC but I don't see how we keep Holtby without losing Backstrom. There's no one in the cupboard that'll come even close to replacing Backstrom. If Samsonov is as advertised [not convinced yet], then there's a potential near replacement for Holtby on the ice. What Holt's does off the ice won't be replaced. I think he's a great ambassador for the Caps but doubt that factors in to whether he comes back.
We only have Gudas coming off the books after this year and the cap is projected to only go up around $2mil, so I don't know where the Caps find the money for both 19 and 70.
richkrt99:
All these ridiculous contracts (Bobrovsky) are starting to make Ovi's $10mil look like a relative bargain. Granted, a 35 year old Ovi, but he was making $10mil all during his premium years as well, and he really hasn't started to drop off yet, even at his age. With all he brings, his contract aint that bad. I realize some of it is marketing & selling tickets, but Ovi definitely brings that as part of the bargain.
I love Holtby, and the goalie is the one key position that can make or break a team, but I'm not sure he's worth $10m/year, which is what he will get...somewhere.
IF the Caps want to keep him they are going to have to part with someone in the top 8 salaries....
Ovi (No fucking way the Caps part with him - he is a cash cow for selling tickets)
Dylan (No way the Caps part with Dylan - he's our "Norris" candidate :lol: [size=78%])[/size]
Kuzy (would really take some souring between him and mgmt for that to happen - which means his contract would then be worth shit and you couldn't offload it then anyway)
Backy (i'd hate to lose Backy - but what is a 32 year old Backy worth? Can you sign him for another 3 years at $8m per?
Holtby (pack your bags kid....I think there is a liberal city out there yearning for you)
Oshie (Realistically - how would they unload him at his age and contract?)
Willie (Better not, no fucking way they let him loose - I believe he is the future and heart and soul of this team and a bargain at $5.1m)
Olov (Okay...IF he has a stellar year and you find some team desperate enough, but I don't see it)
Bobrovsky will be 37 in his final year of his contract - that's a stretch for a goaltender, aint it? I mean the "king" is 37 I think, and his played has dropped off in recent years.
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