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GDT#R1G7 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:30pm Wed Apr 24, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN, SN, SN360
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: waynerivers on Thursday April 25, 2019, 12:22:09 PM Eastern ---This was basically the same crew which won the Cup last year except for Beagle and Grubauer. The Kempny and Oshie injuries hurt but Carolina had injuries, too. Plus, we had a 2-0 lead in the series and then lost 4 of 5. That's 100% on Rierden. He isn't the answer either now or going forward. Regardless of whatever personnel moves are made, they need a guy behind the bench who knows what he's doing.
Speaking of losing a 2-0 series lead, the Caps have a long and miserable history of losing 2-0 and 3-1 series leads. I thought maybe winning a Cup would cure it but I guess not.
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Basically the same team, but with a Cup in hand, a new coach, and yet the history of previous years doesn’t change.
Assuredly Reidon won’t be fired unless they miss the playoffs, maybe twice. Firing him for anything less, would be terrible for Monumental as it would show their “chooses one” was a brutally wrong “choice”.
We need to accept that between Reidon and cap/current roster, there’s a very real possibility of the next couple years being very ugly.
Devise:
How could anyone come away from this series blaming Reirden?
We dominated several of the games we won, and the Canes looked like absolute SHIT for most of Game 7. Reirden was mixing line strategies and getting as much as he could. Did ya'll watch Game 7? You sure? You keep saying yes but I don't believe you, because if you did you could see by like halfway into that third period, our PLAYERS had ZERO gas tank. ZERO. None. Like "running on empty."
Explain to me how that is on the coach, in any way? "He didn't get them ready to play." Bullshit, if that was the case how come the Canes coach was quoted on the bench in the second of saying "we look like fucknig shit right now." The Caps lost this. Plain and simple. Not the coach, not on any individual player because while Holtby let in a weak goal to tie the game he was a stud for the rest of it. It was a team loss, as simple as that.
From my vantage, it wasn't even just that the Caps looked "content" from having won a Cup last season. They looked burnt out. We have played a lot of fucking hockey and it just felt like even when the Canes were struggling we didn't have the stamina to push it into another gear when we needed to, with the exception of a couple of shifts in their end that really looked like us trying to clamp down a few times. But defensively we were stellar last night, stellar. The shot blocks/structure was all over the place and it was a rather "odd" Game 7 in that it didn't really have the pace or intensity you usually expect.
If anything much of it just appeared like Todd was trying to get the most he could of a tired, depleted, team that after last season's success didn't have that extra drive it needed to counter it. Trotz here wouldn't of magically changed that imo.
zerofox:
Getting beaten by Carolina in 7 games was not a surprise at all. Not one bit. And I don't think anyone else on the boards was surprised either.
The biggest problem this season was coaching, by a long shot. You could maybe point to roster, injuries, effort, etc. as part of the problem, but nothing comes close to coaching as being the culprit here.
You could argue that our roster could be better, but it is still largely the same as the one that won the Cup last year. Yeah we have some shitty contracts, and yeah not all players are the best option for us in their respective positions, but our roster isn't bad at all. There's talent there, moreso than a lot of other teams.
As for injuries, yeah we lost Kempny and Oshie, Carolina had some injuries too, and they started out with a less talented team to begin with.
I'm not ready to say effort was a problem in the playoffs either. In the regular season sure, when you could clearly see us playing down to the competition in games that didn't mean much. But everyone on the Caps knew how important these games were, and I'm sure gave it their best. They came out to a 2-0 series lead, but in the end they were just outcoached.
Management needs a reality check. Total Retard is not the answer, never was, never will be. He should have been fired midway through the season to make room for Coach Q. We should have realized that TR wasn't going to get us anywhere, and cutting bait to allow Coach Q time to integrate and set up his systems would have been the best bet. But instead we kept the retard around, and somehow our players managed to win enough games to get 4th in the league in spite of TR's efforts to drive our team 6 feet under. Even if we had the bounces go our way to beat Carolina, there's no way TR would have outcoached Trotz.
Chris19:
Couldn't clear our zone - the power play was a joke - the sling shot is a waste of time. ZERO adjustments were made games 3-7. Same broken crap and it cost them.
That's on the coaching staff.
Kaz:
--- Quote from: Devise on Thursday April 25, 2019, 01:03:36 PM Eastern ---How could anyone come away from this series blaming Reirden?
We dominated several of the games we won, and the Canes looked like absolute SHIT for most of Game 7. Reirden was mixing line strategies and getting as much as he could. Did ya'll watch Game 7? You sure? You keep saying yes but I don't believe you, because if you did you could see by like halfway into that third period, our PLAYERS had ZERO gas tank. ZERO. None. Like "running on empty."
Explain to me how that is on the coach, in any way?
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Explain how the coach shares the blame? Sure, no problem.
* Terrible management of our D this season. Djoos was NEVER going to be the solution if we had a major injury. The kid weighs 9 pounds. Siegenthaler was waiver exempt all year, Orpik was out for 30 games. So why not use that time to develop an actual, all-situations LD for needed depth? Why waste that time on a kid that will ALWAYS need to be sheltered at the NHL level, especially in the playoffs? Look how well Siegenthaler played after just a few games. Imagine if he'd had 30 games at 3LD during the season instead.
* Terrible management of our D during this series. Reirden was so fixated on rotating D to shelter Djoos (and still managed to fail) that he failed to make effective adjustments to the rest of our lineup and gameplan to help us in the games we lost. So focused on micromanaging matchups and overthinking deployments that he had absolutely no answer for Carolina when they took over a game. In 4 losses we showed zero ability to overcome what was working for the Canes. And for what? Our best defensemen logging minutes on his weak side? Starting a D that you only play for 5 minutes because he can't be trusted? Genius.
* You're blind if you missed how poorly he coached Game 7. We had last change, a better and deeper lineup, and Carolina was gassing their top pair trying to match with us. And yet for some reason Reirden spent the last half of the game and most of overtime shuffling lines, destroying the chemistry that had worked for us up to that point. He had us chipping pucks we had in our possession so that he could get better matchups on the ice CONSTANTLY.
I'll put that in bold again so you don't miss it: He had us routinely surrendering possession to our opponents so we could adjust to a team WE WERE BEATING BY 2 GOALS. Why adjust to their game when playing OUR game had us up 2?
* Absolutely moronic with the short bench in OT. DSP was solid for us the last couple games and huge last postseason, but didn't play at all in OT. Dowd had been clutch for us on three separate occasions very recently and was one of our best faceoff guys, but didn't play at all in OT. Those two guys logged 8 minutes each in a game that ran over 90 minutes. We were totally gassed from the start of OT until the losing goal. Neither of those guys are defensive liabilities, both have shown an ability to come through in the clutch. So why did they sit? What exactly were we sheltering? Our guys couldn't make rushes up ice they were so spent, but we had 2 good players on the bench THAT DIDN'T PLAY AT ALL IN OVERTIME. Ridiculously awful game management.
What game were you watching? I thought this was the Caps/Canes Game 7 thread. :P
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