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GDT#R1G7 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:30pm Wed Apr 24, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN, SN, SN360
KitFisto:
You guy are hilarious. Yes, it sucks, but they tarnished the cup? They are fat and happy? Give me a break. They lost...... It happens to every team, but one every year. We lost Kemp before the playoffs started and Oshie during them. Should they have still overcome? Yes, with their talent they should have, but they didn't. They have some issues to address in the off-season and hopefully they do and come back stronger next year.
I guess VGK are garbage too?
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: KitFisto on Thursday April 25, 2019, 03:56:56 AM Eastern ---You guy are hilarious. Yes, it sucks, but they tarnished the cup? They are fat and happy? Give me a break. They lost...... It happens to every team, but one every year. We lost Kemp before the playoffs started and Oshie during them. Should they have still overcome? Yes, with their talent they should have, but they didn't. They have some issues to address in the off-season and hopefully they do and come back stronger next year.
I guess VGK are garbage too?
--- End quote ---
Talent yes, but we don’t have the strength or work ethic. Canes played us tighter and tougher than any team we played last year, and the majority of the team could not match, let alone defeat that. Hell up 2-0 in the first in a game 7, and they let the momentum get absolutely flipped on them.
Sure, Holtby May have wanted one or two back, but has usual, there where about 10 that most goalies would of let in. . . Not like Fluery who had one of his mental break-downs and allowed 4 after a questionable major penalty to loose a game 7
KitFisto:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Thursday April 25, 2019, 07:20:34 AM Eastern ---Talent yes, but we don’t have the strength or work ethic. Canes played us tighter and tougher than any team we played last year, and the majority of the team could not match, let alone defeat that. Hell up 2-0 in the first in a game 7, and they let the momentum get absolutely flipped on them.
Sure, Holtby May have wanted one or two back, but has usual, there where about 10 that most goalies would of let in. . . Not like Fluery who had one of his mental break-downs and allowed 4 after a questionable major penalty to loose a game 7
--- End quote ---
You make reasonable points, but You honestly believe that most goalies in the NHL would have allowed 10+ goals that Holtby didn't?
Also, my post was more directed at the "players don't care since they won last year" and "the cup win is tainted now"... .. Really? I mean really? That's just pure overreaction due to being upset they lost.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: KitFisto on Thursday April 25, 2019, 07:27:14 AM Eastern ---
You make reasonable points, but You honestly believe that most goalies in the NHL would have allowed 10+ goals that Holtby didn't?
Also, my post was more directed at the "players don't care since they won last year" and "the cup win is tainted now"... .. Really? I mean really? That's just pure overreaction due to being upset they lost.
--- End quote ---
There abouts/sarcastic exaggeration. My point was/continues that due to mess of D, lack of defensive
forwards, and pond hockey system, Holtby has to do way more than other goalies in the league. This results in generally making several “highlight reel” saves a game look routine, and any “softies” look worse.
As for players/out in the first round, everyone has a point. but it can be summed up with: over confidence. Everyone, including myself, thought we had this series before the
puck dropped in Game 1, and when we went up 2-0 in Game 7. Yet, the Canes proved us wrong.
Ironically enough, this was assuredly how The Hens and TBL felt last year.
richkrt99:
I do NOT believe that the "Players do not care". I am sure they are more devastated they we are. I don't see any tarnish of the Cup or fat and happy players. However, we should have won this series. Caps simply did not put forth the effort they did last year (and not that I think that is possible ALL the time). I don't think it was intent or lack of desire, just didn't/couldn't muster the effort needed to win. Maybe it's purely fatigue, maybe coaching, maybe just the couple key guys lost. Lots of little chances here and there where games or series are decided. Last year the effort/hunger was more evident and we overcame (or got the luck) to make the difference multiple times. How many times were we "almost" eliminated last year? How many OT games did we win that could have gone the other way? How many game saving saves were made, and lucky bounces went our way? How many different guys (who normally do not), made a HUGE difference last year? The Caps were magical in the playoffs last year. For the most part, that was missing this year. If Kuzy had been 10% better and Vranna had scored only ONE goal, then.....If only....BUT....blah, blah, blah.
Last night we had a few chances in OT to win it. Wilson "almost" put one in, but it was swept away. Vranna hit the post, etc. I hated the whole OT, because I felt it was inevitable that the Canes would eventually score. I just hoped we would get a bounce and score first. Maybe that's just years of Cap fandom bias, but I just didn't feel we had it last night or this year. The Canes outworked us in OT. The Caps looked like they were just hanging on....like they were playing for a tie. They simply looked gassed, like they had nothing left...and maybe that was simply true. I kept thinking that MAYBE we'd get a bounce, but if we won, how tired and spent we would be for a game Friday, and what a miserable showing that would be.
Caps spent SO much time in our own zone not being able to clear the puck. So many icing calls. They just couldn't get it together. Canes got some bounces and took advantage. They wore us down and kept playing and playing and playing, and eventually the puck went in for them. Congrats to the Canes, long time coming for them.
Disappointing for and disappointed in the Caps, but also not surprised. I have never felt like we "had it" this year. Too many little weaknesses to overcome for the grand prize. Kempney was catostrophic, Oshie was probably the last nail in the coffin. New head coach was definitely a question mark. I was not /am not bitter, just a somewhat realistic. Maybe it hurts less this year cause I felt it coming or maybe cause we did win the ultimate prize last year. The Caps used up all their stores of lucky bounces and hockey Gods debt last year. They had the magic last year.
Better luck next year (how long have we been saying that as Cap fans :-\ )
Oh, and ...they changed the chant last night after the game....from "Back to Back" to "Back to Golf"
Go Caps...[size=78%](next year)[/size]
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