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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday March 17, 2020, 09:39:19 PM Eastern »

Eric Lindros?
Daniel Alfreddson?
Jaromir Jagr?


All 3?


this is a Capitals website, so kinda narrows it down
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday March 17, 2020, 11:50:02 PM Eastern »

this is a Capitals website, so kinda narrows it down


Alfreddson played for a division rival and was traded to another team


Lindros played for a division rival and was never traded (technically)


Jagr played for you and a division rival...
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday March 18, 2020, 09:04:18 AM Eastern »
... and ain't NONE of them the "greatest goal scorer of all time".  :smirk:

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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday March 18, 2020, 01:26:47 PM Eastern »

Alfreddson played for a division rival and was traded to another team


Lindros played for a division rival and was never traded (technically)


Jagr played for you and a division rival...


Jager played very few games here, he showed up for the vast majority of his time as a Capital
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday March 18, 2020, 01:30:26 PM Eastern »
... and ain't NONE of them the "greatest goal scorer of all time".  :smirk:


if jager hasn’t copped an attitude here then took several years off from the nhl, he would’ve gotten pretty damn close to Gretzky on goals scored. Possibly even passing him. As I said, it’s to bad he gets no respect in this town, but he earned that. What will never be surpassed is Gretzky’s points total.
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday March 18, 2020, 03:51:39 PM Eastern »
In addition, Ovi is also spent one season outside of NHL due to lockout if not that he could have right now roughly 800 goals at the age of 34..

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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday March 18, 2020, 07:55:16 PM Eastern »
In addition, Ovi is also spent one season outside of NHL due to lockout if not that he could have right now roughly 800 goals at the age of 34..


and another half season from the second lockout
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday March 18, 2020, 07:57:08 PM Eastern »
and if we’re lucky, just 13 games and the playoffs from a flu shortened season
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday March 18, 2020, 07:58:59 PM Eastern »
Buttman should have the teams finish the season with NHL ‘19, they can do that from home over the interwebs


I should dust off my NHL ‘15 and see if I can win the Cup :uh-huh:
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday March 18, 2020, 08:02:08 PM Eastern »
I do, I don’t think there is much question about it.
      I personally didn't like his game. Yes he was a fantastic offensive player.  He wasn't as pure a goalscorer as an Ovi or Bossy but he had great vision and could see the play developing before anyone else. He did however have alot of holes in his game and he wasn't a 200 foot player. He was surrounded by alot of very good talent.

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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday March 18, 2020, 10:32:38 PM Eastern »

Jager played very few games here, he showed up for the vast majority of his time as a Capital

Didn't Jagr apologise  for his stint in DC?
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday March 18, 2020, 10:34:28 PM Eastern »
Didn't Jagr apologise  for his stint in DC?


as I recall, he acknowledged it, not really apologizing for it
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #52 on: Monday July 26, 2021, 04:00:59 PM Eastern »
Ovie sits at 730 Goals.  He needs 165 goals to pass the Great One.
If he does indeed sign a 4 year deal, it is very possible he could surpass Gretzky by the end of it....


assuming he stays healthy...


and we don't have another pandemic...


I don't see him bringing home another Cup with this roster and the current cap problems.  Unless Samsonov turns into Marty Broudeur or something, and Johnny Q Norris turns into...a Norris candidate...and McMichael comes up and more than blossoms in Kuzy's vacated spot.....etc, etc.


So....for Ovi....I think realistically as far as "career accomplishments" goes....it's Gretzky for the next four seasons.


For the record...Ovi is in 6th place at 730
Dionne with 731
Brett Hull 741
Jagr 766
Gordie 801
The Great One 894


If not for the flu shortened seasons... Ovi would have passed Dionne, Hull, and maybe Jagr already.


I expect Ovi will pass all three this season, and Gordie next.


Let's hope it tons of fun to watch, and not a "sacrifice of all else" to get there.


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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #53 on: Monday July 26, 2021, 04:21:03 PM Eastern »
just a point on that, no player has ever scored 800 goals with one team. Gretzgy played for three four teams, forgot about the Blues.

and according to the nhl, OV is one of two to score 700 goals with one team. Those two records most likely will never be broken.
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #54 on: Monday July 26, 2021, 05:25:24 PM Eastern »
just a point on that, no player has ever scored 800 goals with one team. Gretzgy played for three four teams, forgot about the Blues.

and according to the nhl, OV is one of two to score 700 goals with one team. Those two records most likely will never be broken.


especially when Ovi gets to 900 with the Caps  :uh-huh:
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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #55 on: Monday October 04, 2021, 05:45:48 PM Eastern »
I'll admit I'm biased because I am a Caps fan and I never got to see the Great One play but I'll go with Ovie.

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Re: Greatest Goal Scorer of All Time
« Reply #56 on: Friday October 08, 2021, 06:31:18 AM Eastern »
Don't ever forget the effect of the evolution of goaltending training, coaching, and equipment.  Gretsky had a MUCH easier scoring environment than Ovie has had.


In most of the era when Gretsky played goalies routinely put up save percentages in the mid to high 80's.  Much of the time Ovie has been in the league save percentages have moved into the low 90's.


It doesn't sound like all that much difference, but you have to look through the other end of the telescope to understand how significant the difference is.  A goalie with a .889 save percentage lets 1 of 9 shots in.  A goalie with a .917 save percentage lets 1 of 12 shots in.  Less than a 3 percentage point change in save % makes it 25% more difficult to score.  (Or you could say in the earlier era it was 33% easier to score.  Take your pick.  Depends on which reference point you want to use as the denominator of the %.)