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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday March 26, 2019, 10:54:08 PM Eastern »
Back from the game.


Carolina is a team that looks to get the puck on net at every conceivable opportunity, unlike us.  So their 28 shots were pretty low for them, and really, they had only a few high-danger chances.  Holtby saw most everything.   It really wasn't that difficult of an evening for him.


Kuzy was a beast tonight.  He looked like he was breaking down the defense in some way or other every time he had the puck in the offensive zone. His pass to Oshie was through about a 6-inch seam.  And he gave Ovie a magnificently timed screen on Ovie's goal.  It seems the past several games Ovie has been in one of those funks where everything he shoots is into the goalie's chest, and it was the same way tonight -- UNTIL the goal.


Djoos has been very solid since filling in for Kempny, but they are protecting him to some extent.  Tonight he started with Carlson, but mid-game they switched him and Jensen, and he finished the game paired with Orpik, playing mostly against lower-line guys.  At least Niskanen and Orlov looked good tonight.  Those guys have not had a great regular season -- maybe they are going to get it ramped up for the playoffs. 


By the way, Siegenthaler has been brought up, and I did not see Lewington.  He was on the ice for warmups, but was scratched.  I'm assuming that Lewington was brought up initially because he was cheaper than Siegenthaler, and once they were able to fit Sieg. under the cap for the rest of the regular season, they switched them.  My understanding is that the Caps are so tight up against the salary cap that they literally have to count every dollar.  What I don't understand is, is it not possible to put a player on LTIR with less than 10 games remaining in the regular season?  You'd think they could put Kempny there and get enough of an exemption to bring up whoever they want from Hershey. 

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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday March 27, 2019, 12:40:16 AM Eastern »
Yeah, LTIR isn't available when there aren't enough games left for the classification.  We're also looking at a cap overage of more than $700K that will come off of next year's cap because Vrana and Orpik have both hit their performance bonuses, and Vrana has one left that he'll most likely hit, too.  So we'll have less to spend than everyone else next year.


As it stands now, we won't be able to afford both Connolly and Burakovsky next year, so one has to go unless we trade another sizable salary.

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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday March 27, 2019, 09:41:07 AM Eastern »
the first two periods last night were a snooze fest, things didn't really start rolling until OV scored, then the whole team seemed to wake up.




and there's 5 games left for OV to get the magical 50th goal
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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday March 27, 2019, 10:23:37 AM Eastern »
the first two periods last night were a snooze fest, things didn't really start rolling until OV scored, then the whole team seemed to wake up.


You finally made it to the game?  :snicker: 

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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday March 27, 2019, 11:41:09 AM Eastern »
By the way, our PP again looked futile in the relatively little time it had, and the problem seems to be entirely in establishing a presence in the offensive zone.  We're fine once we set up; we CAN create chances.  But we can't get established.  This is where Marcus Johansson was invaluable, but that's water under the bridge now.  I know DC and others decry the slingshot approach, and I agree, it sure doesn't look effective.  But straightforward trying to work it into the zone without the slingshot isn't working either.  Maybe we need to move Wilson up to the 1PP unit in place of, say, Oshie, do more dump and chase, let Wilson try and help establish puck possession in the offensive zone, and then let him take Oshie's place in the middle of the PP setup.  The problem is that it would probably be only very incremental improvement, because Oshie is the best puck hound we have already on the boards and behind the net.  But who else are you going to replace?  Ovie isn't going anywhere.  If Carlson were replaced, it would be by another d-man,  not a 5th forward, and somebody has to be available to take the point shots.  And Kuzy and Backstrom are the orchestrators.  Take one of them out and you may lose as much or more on creating and converting the setup plays as you gain by doing better at getting into the setup.


It's a conundrum.

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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday March 27, 2019, 12:13:02 PM Eastern »
Im not even sure they're effective once they get setup.. Jusst looks stale and pedestrian unless Ovie is scoring. Oshie misses the net 90% of the time, Nick rarely ever shoots, Carlson's gone as cold as Ovie on the point shots and his dishs' have been about as sharp as a bowling ball.. Need some fresh eyes and ideas imo..

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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday March 27, 2019, 12:43:04 PM Eastern »
%100 of the shots they don't take have %100 chance of not going in. It looks to me like they are passing up on prime shooting chances more than ever, in favor of yet one more usually unnecessary pass.
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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #67 on: Thursday March 28, 2019, 06:24:15 AM Eastern »
We need these two points and we need Ovi to get it going again. Heard on the NHL channel today that Tampa has a 4th coach that is just a faceoff coach - and its Jeff Halpern.  Maybe we should have thought of that!
No shit! 
All four of their centers  are over 50%. And our genius coach keep parading Kuzy our there more than anyone to loose 70% of them instead of sending anyone else I’m there let alone gettin a coach to specialize in it so you have an advantage instead of an exploitabkw weakness.

But, I guess a 70% failure rate is ok if means more work

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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #68 on: Thursday March 28, 2019, 08:54:07 AM Eastern »
No shit! 
All four of their centers  are over 50%. And our genius coach keep parading Kuzy our there more than anyone to loose 70% of them..


Caps have been "reactive" for as long as I can remember.. They'll roll with the status quo until finishing results warrant a change.

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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #69 on: Thursday March 28, 2019, 03:54:20 PM Eastern »
Oshie sick.. Game time decision.  :sick:   :-\

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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #70 on: Thursday March 28, 2019, 05:42:34 PM Eastern »
Oshie sick.. Game time decision.  :sick:   :-\


Meh....what do we want with a guy who hustles everyone, works doggedly in the corners, hits everyone in his path, puts forth maximum effort, etc, etc..... :raspberry:


(well, he does fall down more than any other NHL player I can remember)
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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #71 on: Thursday March 28, 2019, 08:19:08 PM Eastern »
Nice play there Carlson

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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #72 on: Thursday March 28, 2019, 09:01:22 PM Eastern »
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Re: GDT#77 Hurricanes @ Capitals 7:00pm Tue Mar 26, 2019 NBCSWA, NBCSN
« Reply #73 on: Friday March 29, 2019, 01:22:52 AM Eastern »
By the way, our PP again looked futile in the relatively little time it had, and the problem seems to be entirely in establishing a presence in the offensive zone.  We're fine once we set up; we CAN create chances.  But we can't get established.  This is where Marcus Johansson was invaluable, but that's water under the bridge now.  I know DC and others decry the slingshot approach, and I agree, it sure doesn't look effective.  But straightforward trying to work it into the zone without the slingshot isn't working either.  Maybe we need to move Wilson up to the 1PP unit in place of, say, Oshie, do more dump and chase, let Wilson try and help establish puck possession in the offensive zone, and then let him take Oshie's place in the middle of the PP setup.  The problem is that it would probably be only very incremental improvement, because Oshie is the best puck hound we have already on the boards and behind the net.  But who else are you going to replace?  Ovie isn't going anywhere.  If Carlson were replaced, it would be by another d-man,  not a 5th forward, and somebody has to be available to take the point shots.  And Kuzy and Backstrom are the orchestrators.  Take one of them out and you may lose as much or more on creating and converting the setup plays as you gain by doing better at getting into the setup.


It's a conundrum.


Hey Black. Totally agree on the conundrum thing!
I think our PP can sort of create some better chances, as you say, WHEN and IF, they can get set up across blue line. But I really have only been seeing a few better chances, only against the weaker PK opponents.


I’ve talked negatively, myself, about the “slingshot”. But to clarify, I DO believe the slingshot can be a useful tool in the box, for ANY teams PP!
[size=78%]It’s OUR PP’s slingshot, the way we execute it, that is oftentimes simply abysmal![/size]
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My understanding of its purpose is that when a Dman is bringing up the puck on the PP, the opponents 4 defenders have to guard against not only the Dman’s forward pass threat, as he’s coming up, but also have to beware of a fast skating forward who receives the slingshot pass, and with the speed generated, by the time he approaches the red line, there is a good chance he gets through the slower moving opponents 4 defenders, as they’ve been held in check, in their D positions, around center ice, due to the original, potential forward pass threat, right before the PP D man, suddenly turns 180, and executes the slingshot pass!  All fine and dandy....IF....it’s executed PROPERLY!


That is, the slingshot pass is done in quick fashion, with the forward CLOSE BEHIND, as the D man is closing the gap to the opponents defenders, who are basically waiting at center ice. It is, of course, not intended as a complete surprise move, but more like a college football, quarterback option run.


The PP Dman can choose to pass forward, if there is an open lane, OR, turn around fairly quickly, and slingshot the puck to the ever accelerating forward closing closely from behind!
Great tactic, in theory, but the critical timing, for good execution, has to be PRACTICED!!
I don’t claim to know if the Caps practice this enough, or not. But I DO know that they execute it HORRIBLY, almost always! They just CANT pull it off!!


What do we see usually? Carlson, starts to bring up the puck, Kuzy, or whoever, skates back towards Holtz, curls around the net, and starts forward. FIRST thing is, it has become quite common for Carlsons slingshot pass to be way early, and when he tries the no-look business, the pass is too
slow, off-line, or late. 


Suffice it to say that many times the pass is of poor quality.
It’s Kuzys job to scan ahead to see where potential line breaks/weak spots, may be developing, skate in that direction, and Carlson to generally get the slingshot, in line, and in time, with Kuzys basic forward progress, so that he can simply get the puck in stride!!  This almost NEVER happens!!


And even when it’s decent, Kuzy gets the puck on his stick, WAY TOO EARLY, like somewhere halfway between Holtby, and the top of one of the circles!! He’s not going fast yet, he’s the ONLY guy back there, and opponents defenders have plenty of time to react to his acceleration. Then what happens??


 Kuzy, on his own, somehow wings it with his puck handling talent, over the red line, heading into the blue line, where, many times, at least 2, defenders, who are READY for him, DUE TO OUR POOR TIMING, strip Kuzy of the puck, and WHAM, it’s over, and we have to start our approach again!


The PP has been a real problem for us, in part, due to the overwhelming amount of time we have to spend, just setting up!! OUR slingshot is one of those contributing reasons, IMO.
If we executed it properly, MY GOD, we have the talent, and we would increase our PP good chances!!!
I can only assume it’s a coaching issue, or lack of coaching it in practice! Hey, wait a minute... our PK has the same story, now that I think about it! LOL


I liked some of your ideas for changing the PP, Black! I’d like to see it. But you also conclude that it may not change much of anything, and I agree with you!


Since its both PP and PK, that are issues, I tend to think the coaches aren’t prioritizing it as much as is required. Given that we commit a TON of penalties, also, this just magnifies the problem!  the playoff hockey will force us to get serious, if even possible to do so, with this team, or they’ll be sent on vacation quickly!!
Hope not!


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