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BlackIce:
--- Quote from: zerofox on Wednesday February 20, 2019, 09:47:36 PM Eastern ---I would not mind getting back Beagle, nor would I mind grabbing some of the LA Kings players that have been talked about (Lewis, Clifford, don't think I'd want Hagelin though). That said, I wouldn't want a straight up Burakovsky for one of those guys type of trade because I think we wouldn't be getting fair return, and I would be wary of the $3+ million salary for guys like Beagle (as much as I like him) and Hagelin.
I hope we don't try to get any of our other old players back like Johansson or Green though. Mojo might bring some speed and zone entry talent, but is just too soft. As for Green, we have too many high priced defensemen and he's just not the type of guy I think we need. I do think we need defense more than forwards though. I'd rather make a strong add on defense than trying to get a 4th line upgrade. Either way, something's gotta get done because our team right now needs a shake up.
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Here's the problem with adding a "strong defenseman." The Caps currently have 7 defensemen on the roster on one-way contracts, and I guarantee they don't want to expose any of them to waivers. So if another serious defenseman comes into that mix, there are too many bodies to play everybody. That means one of the current defensemen probably needs to go in a trade for it to really work, which gets us into blockbuster territory. Making a big move like that with only a month and a half until the playoffs start is always a dicey proposition chemistry-wise. We've seen big moves at the deadline blow up in our faces before. It really would be a roll-the-dice move.
ArJunaZ:
My guess is the Caps have a last second deal that lined up for Jaskin. Probably have a second man coming too and needed to clear a spot, thus DSP gets placed on waivers.
zerofox:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Wednesday February 20, 2019, 10:09:23 PM Eastern ---
Here's the problem with adding a "strong defenseman." The Caps currently have 7 defensemen on the roster on one-way contracts, and I guarantee they don't want to expose any of them to waivers. So if another serious defenseman comes into that mix, there are too many bodies to play everybody. That means one of the current defensemen probably needs to go in a trade for it to really work, which gets us into blockbuster territory. Making a big move like that with only a month and a half until the playoffs start is always a dicey proposition chemistry-wise. We've seen big moves at the deadline blow up in our faces before. It really would be a roll-the-dice move.
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You definitely make a good point. But how would you go about it if you were GM? I mean I feel like defense is definitely a weakness. Part of it is probably an issue with the forwards, but there's also the issue that from my vantage point, we have some veterans who appear to have taken a step back, and some young guys who aren't cutting it just yet (i.e. Bowey). Granted, Bowey isn't playing right now, but he's not the ideal guy to come up if someone's out for a while. I'd also be willing to consider moving Orpik + other assets for someone who could play on the 2nd pairing, giving us an option to move an under performing top 4 D to the bottom pairing where they can eat up less minutes against weaker competition.
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Wednesday February 20, 2019, 10:09:23 PM Eastern ---
Here's the problem with adding a "strong defenseman." The Caps currently have 7 defensemen on the roster on one-way contracts, and I guarantee they don't want to expose any of them to waivers. So if another serious defenseman comes into that mix, there are too many bodies to play everybody. That means one of the current defensemen probably needs to go in a trade for it to really work, which gets us into blockbuster territory. Making a big move like that with only a month and a half until the playoffs start is always a dicey proposition chemistry-wise. We've seen big moves at the deadline blow up in our faces before. It really would be a roll-the-dice move.
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My only argument with this is the "dicey proposition chemistry-wise" comment.
What chemistry do you currently see on D that would be compromised? Our D is awful.
Problem is our two "premier" D; Nisky and Orlov, who play together and let's face it are our TOP shut down D men, are both have atrocious years. Nisky just looks hurt or dinged or something....or maybe age is just getting to him. Orlov looks downright lost, which he has always had small spurts where that happens, but not an entire season.
I'm not knocking Carlson, but nobody considers him a shut down D man. Orpik is a shut down guy, but everyone including him knows he is at best a third pairing. What we are sorely missing is Orlov and Nisky being at the top of their game.
I know a lot of people have always been down on Nisky, but he has been a worthy top 4 D man for the Caps (until this year). He is a -7 this year and a +94 over the past 5 seasons (+19 average). That is a dramatic change, and I know it is just a stat and there are many factors, but that is a HUGE swing.
Orlov is also a -7 this year and his previous 3 years was a cumulative +38.
I am never one to blame one or two guys for the "team" defense, for this is a TEAM problem.
However, at our current level of play, I'd take the risk of inserting a quality D from outside. I can't see it hurting our current chemistry on D.
I do NOT think that will happen. I don't see how the caps could afford a REAL decent D. Like a 5-6 or more mil/year guy. Even if you offload Burka, that only gets you half way. You unload Burka and Jaskin, and you've got 4.1 mil. Add DSP and you get another mil. But what team would want DSP, Jaskin, and Burka, that could spare losing a solid D man?
DC_1908:
If Bura for Johansson, as I suggested in jest weeks ago, is actually happening. . . it would make us a far better team, but would make Monumental look like (show as) absolute bafoons.
Trade a solid two-way player as a salary dump, while over-signing a younger one way player, only to flip that to get the first player back because they let the other two way players go. . . 🤣🤣🤣
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