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--- Quote from: BlackIce on Wednesday February 20, 2019, 10:09:23 PM Eastern ---
Here's the problem with adding a "strong defenseman." The Caps currently have 7 defensemen on the roster on one-way contracts, and I guarantee they don't want to expose any of them to waivers. So if another serious defenseman comes into that mix, there are too many bodies to play everybody. That means one of the current defensemen probably needs to go in a trade for it to really work, which gets us into blockbuster territory. Making a big move like that with only a month and a half until the playoffs start is always a dicey proposition chemistry-wise. We've seen big moves at the deadline blow up in our faces before. It really would be a roll-the-dice move.
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Hey Black.
The Shattenkirk trade, using hindsight from the 2nd round playoff exit, when he was here, was a perfect example of how team chemistry can go off kilter, when trading at the deadline. ESPECIALLY a big name guy!
There are some team factors that, if in place at the time of a deadline trade, seem to potentially increase the negative affect to team chemistry!
First, you have to have some GOOD chemistry, that’s already present, and established during the regular season.
Second, and most likely hand in hand, with established good chemistry, is that you are a team that appears likely to make the playoffs, at the time of the deadline! (In other words, having a common team goal to strive for).
Third, you are trading for a top 6/4, O or D player, who will displace one of the regular starters!
Caps had ALL these factors happening when we got Shatty. Caps were already cementing well for the playoffs, and locker room rapport was good!
This year is different, IMO, in one big way!
In agreement with Rich, I think we have very little risk, concerning an upset to the defensive chemistry of the Capitals.
Bob Dylan sang the lyrics “If you ain’t got nothing, you got nothing to lose”!
One of the most notable issues, of the many, for this years team, is our blaring, random, inconsistent, defense! Probably the most reliably predictable fault, that we can all agree on!
This is what a “NO chemistry” defense looks like in the NHL!
Whereas the only potential direction, the team chemistry, with Shatty, could have gone would’ve been, to be unaffected, or to be disrupted, the chemistry, or lack of it, with this years defense, can’t drop much lower, so the risk to chemistry is quite small.
Just my two cents.
One possible angle to today’s Haglin trade, may be to directly replace Bura, then Bura is used to help get a Dman! We’ll see by Monday!
Rush
Beaglefan2:
Rush - that was a great post. I screamed about the team chemistry at the time of the Shatty trade. He came in and a guy that had been playing hard for us all year had to sit down. We had a good thing going then and bought in a guy that really wanted to play for the Rangers. He then spouted off about how he would just go out to find good restaurants on road trips. Just watch Ovi go after him whenever we play the Rangers and that tells you what you need to know about how he fit in here.
I agree with you that this year is totally different. We need change and new blood.
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: Beaglefan2 on Friday February 22, 2019, 07:39:13 PM Eastern ---Rush - that was a great post. I screamed about the team chemistry at the time of the Shatty trade. He came in and a guy that had been playing hard for us all year had to sit down. We had a good thing going then and bought in a guy that really wanted to play for the Rangers. He then spouted off about how he would just go out to find good restaurants on road trips. Just watch Ovi go after him whenever we play the Rangers and that tells you what you need to know about how he fit in here.
I agree with you that this year is totally different. We need change and new blood.
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Hey Beags.
GMBM definitely regrets that Shatty trade. It’s probably one of his biggest flops as a manager here!
Shatty’s problem was two-fold, in that his individual skill type, (strong offensive reputation), was NOT a Caps team deficiency at the time! We had NO problem scoring goals! Actually, there was NOTHING but maybe a small tweak or two, that was needed, if even THAT, overall with the team!
Secondly, Shatty came in here with some good production numbers on his resume. Problem was, he not only knew it, but ACTED it, with some signs of cockiness, coming too early in the locker room, from reputation alone, before he had any meaningful production!
The locker room was already filled with some big rep, cocky guys, BUT, they had learned through the season, to GEL together as a team! The boys had to be frustrated, and a bit resentful, having to accommodate this guy, and there was obviously not a lot of love lost when he went to NY!
Definitely think it was a sizable factor, in contributing to our second round playoff knockout!!
Rush
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