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GDT#55 Panthers @ Capitals 7:00pm Sat Feb 9, 2019 NBCSWA, ESPN+, FS-F
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: zerofox on Sunday February 10, 2019, 01:29:11 PM Eastern ---
Yeah Bura had a strong showing but I wouldn't want BMac to let a good game here or there convince him to keep the dead weight. I'd bet money that Bura's just going to try to play strong up until the trade deadline to save his livelihood in DC and then he's going to play like shit once he's "safe" and doesn't have a fire under his ass.
I'm a bit worried that BMac thinks that just because Bura has a few good games and "the 3rd line is clicking" that he'll want to keep the line together for the playoffs. Well, with Todd at the helm we shouldn't be worried about the playoffs.
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Don’t be surprised if you’re right, there’s a strong chance Bura is here til the end of his contract or extend.
[size=78%]They waited to long and his value had dropped. Also GMBetaMale more than likely will trade him as a salary dump and to gain draft picks prospects. [/size]
Also, moving him for a cheaper player who could help us more, would look terrible for the Caps management. Monumental likes the big deals at the deadlines, and Bura won’t be enough
IE, could see then trading him for MoJo straight up? MoJo would help the team each night, be more consistent and provide better depth and help face-offs and special teams way more than Bura, even NJ may do that as he’s a UFA next year
zerofox:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Sunday February 10, 2019, 07:25:53 PM Eastern ---Don’t be surprised if you’re right, there’s a strong chance Bura is here til the end of his contract or extend.
[size=78%]They waited to long and his value had dropped. Also GMBetaMale more than likely will trade him as a salary dump and to gain draft picks prospects. [/size]
Also, moving him for a cheaper player who could help us more, would look terrible for the Caps management. Monumental likes the big deals at the deadlines, and Bura won’t be enough
IE, could see then trading him for MoJo straight up? MoJo would help the team each night, be more consistent and provide better depth and help face-offs and special teams way more than Bura, even NJ may do that as he’s a UFA next year
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I definitely had problems with Mojo when he was here but he's a lot better than Andre "pile of rocks" Burakovsky. Perhaps Mojo could help us on zone entries on the PP so Kuzy won't have to always lose the fucking puck when he goes 1 vs 4 like an idiot. So yeah I wouldn't mind bringing Mojo back but can't help but think there's a better move out there to address a stronger need (like defense, or even a forward who will keep it simple and play like he's got a pair of balls and work)
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Sunday February 10, 2019, 07:25:53 PM Eastern ---Don’t be surprised if you’re right, there’s a strong chance Bura is here til the end of his contract or extend.
[size=78%]They waited to long and his value had dropped. Also GMBetaMale more than likely will trade him as a salary dump and to gain draft picks prospects. [/size]
Also, moving him for a cheaper player who could help us more, would look terrible for the Caps management. Monumental likes the big deals at the deadlines, and Bura won’t be enough
IE, could see then trading him for MoJo straight up? MoJo would help the team each night, be more consistent and provide better depth and help face-offs and special teams way more than Bura, even NJ may do that as he’s a UFA next year
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Lady must have spiked DC's Hopslam with some Monumental Kool-aid. He's talking about trading FOR Mojo. Either that or he has some great "volcano" graphic he doesn't want to waste on Burka.
:huh:
richkrt99:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Saturday February 09, 2019, 08:55:58 PM Eastern ---Brouwer is only 850k?
We could sure as hell use him, particularly for that price!
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Agreed. I heard them say that and was surprised. He's old (33) and slow, but you could park his as in front of the net, and he does hit people as well. Hell trade him for Burka and some change. I'd rather have Brouwer on 3/4 line than Burka any day. And save $2mil in cap space. Burka certainly has better skills than Brouwer, but Burka just isn't doing it for the Caps. He is NOT a 3/4 line guy and never will be. He forced there on this team and it isn't helping him or us.
Or trade DSP for Brower straight up. Although, I guess Florida would have absolutely no reason to do that. I was really just making a salary comparison.
I'm not looking to sign Troy to a 3 year deal, but he's a bargain at the current price (for another year or two maybe). He's probably a better goals scorer than any of our current 3/4 line guys and would bring some needed toughness. Florida could utilize Burka more than we could and could certainly afford him.
Doesn't that salary seem kind of low for Brouwer, even at age 33?
I realize he is older then all of our 3/4 line guys, but Brouwer has size and toughness and some touch. Speed was never his game and I realize that is the direction the game is going, but net crashers and chip in guys are still effective in today's game.
I looked up the stats - based on total career stats, here are there average points/game over their careers...SO I was just looking at points/game then decided to add in games played, age, and cap HIT salary for comparison. (Somebody's bored again)
Brouwer: .434 (810 games, 33 years old) $850K Cap Hit
Bearkowski: .448 (301 games, 24 years old) $3.0 mil
Dowd: .238 (172 games, 28 years old) $650k
DSP: .258 (391 games, 26 years old) $1.0 mil
Jaskin: .230 (300 games, 25 years old)
Boyd: .381 (42 games, 25 years old) - $800k (I was going to leave him out as he has only 42 NHL Games, but was looking at a comparison of our 3/4 line guys, so...)
Stephenson: .219 (128 games, 24 years old)
Conno: .344 (401 games, 26 years old) $1.5 mil
I realize Brouwer is much older than every one of these guys, but strictly as a 3/4 line player for THIS Caps team, I feel he would be an upgrade to any of the wingers on this list, and with some flexibility in our other guys (Stephensen, Boyd) you could utilize them as centers.
Honestly, based on the PRICE of what we pay these guys, I don't have a problem with ANY of them except Burka (and his stats/age argue he is better than the rest of these guys and doesn't really belong on this list, BUT that IS part of the argument...Burka is NOT a 3/4 line guy, so don't make him one. The rest of these guys, I pretty much see as career 3/4 liners (Brouwer there for the remainder of his career) (Maybe Stephenson will break the top 6 at some point, but not currently.)
Anyway, Brouwer would be a steal at $850 Cap hit. Lots of experience and some grit. Definitely an asset to a playoff team. I realize we would give up a much younger and more valuable asset in Burka, but We can't resign him next year (well, I sure as hell hope not), so why not move him for an upgrade in something. I also realize Brouwer's stats are declining as the years pile on, but he could still contribute to THIS Caps team.
Probably should have posted this in the "Trade Burka" thread but....DC started me down this rabbit hole...
Okay, so apparently I am really bored and don't care about the amount of work I need to be doing...
Here's what we these guys are getting payed currently, strictly based on production: I divided their current yearly salary by their career points averaged over 82 games...
Brouwer: $23,884 per point produced
Burka: $81,663
Dowd: $33,306
DSP: $47,268
Jaskin: $58,324
Boyd: $25,606
Stephenson: $36,196
Conno: $53,176
Brouwer is a real bargain at $850k. Granted, his average points per year are declining, so figure maybe 25 points/year and that's $34,000 per. Plus I think he brings more than the point value in toughness - especially compared to our 3/4 line guys (except maybe Jaskin)
I personally would not give up Stephenson for Brouwer, and I like Boyd too, but I'd take Brouwer over any of the others at even money.
WHY THE HELL DON'T WE HAVE A "TRADE BEARKOWSKI" THREAD ALREADY?
Mickstix:
Would love to swap DSP for Brouwer, heads up.. I mean, you'd have to hold a gun to the FL GM's head, but still.. :rofl:
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