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Fire Reirden
« on: January 23, 2019, 10:30:18 PM »
This team is, for all intents and purposes, pretty much the same as the team that had won the Stanley fucking Cup last year. Except now we are being run into the ground by a coaching staff that has no fucking clue what they're doing. We've taken a strong team on paper and destroyed them. If you take away our winning streaks in November/December (which were largely thanks to Ovi's dominance and Wilson too, which we can't reasonably expect them to replicate to that extent), then our record is even worse.


This is a coach who is clearly retarded and has no clue how to get a team going. He is an elementary school kid in a world of PhD level coaches. Other coaches are playing chess, and Reirden isn't even playing checkers! He's playing Go Fish with half a deck of cards. He's outclassed. I don't even blame our players, because quite frankly a good coach could take a team and have them exceed what their "expected" capabilities are (see: VGK, see: NYI). A good coach would call out players like Kuzy for their retardedness and force them to fix the issue or get benched.


Reirden is driving our team into the ground. Not only that, but he's wasting another magical season by the best goal scorer in NHL history. Fuck Gretzky, fuck Lemieux, fuck Howe, fuck Hull, fuck Bossy. Ovechkin is king over all of them. And his epic age-33 season is being wasted by a garbage coach who will honestly probably lead the Capitals right out of the playoffs at this rate.


I think we would be GENEROUS to give the Caps 10 games coming out of the all-star break to get back on track with a 60-70% win percentage before pulling the trigger on firing Reirden, which I think is a very reasonable ask. If we haven't achieved that by then, we're pretty much on the outside looking in from a playoffs perspective, and with 20 games to go I'd rather roll the dice on another coach and get them to build some chemistry with the team using the remaining 20 games of the season so we can be in a good spot next year. I'd rather not give Reirden the final 20 games to stumble his way through to an early Capitals tee team and a long summer for us fans.


I wish Reirden would read this, and I'm sure that even if he did, he'd probably say something like "who is this dumb ass ZeroFox guy? He's clearly some dumb fan trying to be armchair coach who doesn't know hockey like I do and doesn't care about the team like I do." Well fuck face, I'm the one asking for your dumb ass to get fired because you're fucking up the team I love, meanwhile you are doing jack shit to fix a near historical losing streak for a defending Stanley Cup champion team, so who's more passionate about the team?

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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2019, 10:34:33 PM »
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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2019, 10:38:28 PM »
Also, bring back "The Goalie Whisperer" and Dale Hunter.  Even as a consultant.
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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2019, 10:50:38 PM »
Also, bring back "The Goalie Whisperer" and Dale Hunter.  Even as a consultant.


Hunsty won't come back, he didn't really want to coach here for a year. He's enjoying coaching the team he's a part owner of and doing it quite well too. The London Knights of the OHL.
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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2019, 10:53:06 PM »
To add to the stupidity, GMBM is apparently looking to trade for another foreward. It's pretty damn obvious, and has been since June, that this team needs to add to the D corps.
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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2019, 11:00:28 PM »
To add to the stupidity, GMBM is apparently looking to trade for another foreward. It's pretty damn obvious, and has been since June, that this team needs to add to the D corps.


Agreed. Our forward corps is a rotating door of "who the fuck sits this game out" because we have too many forwards, while our defense is basically an episode of To Catch a Predator - a few old guys and a bunch of fucking kids.


Ovi, Backy, Kuzy (when he's not retarded), Wilson, Vrana, and Oshie to me are set as the top 6. Eller and Connolly help form the core of the 3rd line. I trust guys like Stephenson, Boyd, Jaskin, Dowd enough to have them fill in the rest of the forward group. Those are our 12 guys and we haven't even gotten to DSP yet, luckily. But at least we have people who weren't born yesterday.


Meanwhile, Carlson, Niskanen, Orlov, and Kempny (which, say what you will about their play, they're our best defenders). Then after that it goes downhill rapidly. You have Orpik, spokesman of the AARP, and fucking children like Seigenthaler, Bowey. One of our big guys on D goes down and you're getting pretty close to legitimately finding a homeless guy off the streets to play 6D

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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2019, 08:45:33 AM »
ok let’s tap the breaks here . . . Reidon isn’t getting fired yet.


Right now he’s doing what Monumental expects him to do:  making sure Ovie leads the league in goals and closes in on 800.  Then ride “have a chance in the playoffs”, because they won once, . . .once, each year.


Do you really think Ted cares about a loss as long Ovie gets a hat trick?


Monumentals goal is to open the new arena with a statue of Ovie saying 800 goal-scorer out front, not winning games in January or even Cups.


This is why they let Trotz walk and hired Reidon


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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2019, 09:05:33 AM »

Coaching....Okay, I'm not one to complain about coaching, but Reirdon is not getting it done.  His fault or not, it's his responsibility.  Yes, he deserves to be fired...well actually he probably didn't deserve to be hire - well maybe he deserved it but he likely wasn't worthy of it.
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PLEASE stop telling me how great Trotz is NOW.  Most of these boards were screaming to fire him two failed seasons before he left.  Most of these boards wanted to fire him at this point LAST SEASON. There is no way in hell he deserved an extension at THIS POINT LAST SEASON which is when it would have had to get done.  It was WAY too late for both sides after the season was over. 
SOme of you guys are ridiculously fickle and change your tunes after the fact.
Yes Trotz is a good coach, but most every cap Fan was calling for his head because he COULD NOT get this Caps team out of the first round, and that he was a great regular season coach and a horrible playoff coach.  He was lost and out classed in the playoffs and out coached by EVERY single team.  He couldn't make adjustments on the fly, couldn't meet the changes the other teams threw out....blah, blah, blah  :O=   THese were all things said on these boards.  Until AFTER the SC run last year.


Now you guys want him back...or we should have.....or we could have.....Forget it.




Todd Sucks but that doesn't make Trotz great.  Anyone can call a SC champ coach great job (after you win the cup)  WHere were all you Trotz supporters when we lost in ANOTHER first round after another Pres Trophy?  Where were you when the Caps were mired in a shit season last year?
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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2019, 09:16:31 AM »
Technically, it was the 2nd round Trotz couldn't get past. And the team slump had been fixed by this point of the season. Last season, the low point, the Preds Avs road trip where it looked like Trotz may have lost the lockerroom, was right after thanksgiving. But yea, good point.


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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2019, 10:00:57 AM »
Caps are Ted's cash cow.. He won't let the milk spoil, trust me. (or rather GMBM won't) 3 more losses in a row and we'll start hearing the whispers of who they're hiring next..

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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2019, 04:19:46 PM »
I'd bet the farm it ain't happening.

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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2019, 05:23:06 PM »
Caps are Ted's cash cow.. He won't let the milk spoil, trust me. (or rather GMBM won't) 3 more losses in a row and we'll start hearing the whispers of who they're hiring next..
Ovi is Ted and Monumentals cash cow.  The only way Reidon goes before the season is over will be if Ovie says so and/or Ovie goes on a dry spell.


Them firing Reidon would make Monumental look (expose)  them as a god damn joke:

Win a Cup when everyone wrote you off. then don’t pay the coach that won it, so you can give the job to “your guy” that you’ve been grooming, and fire him midway through the season as he sucks?

No way will Monumental take that PR hit and make themselves look that bad with Ovie in the way to 700

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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2019, 01:45:34 PM »
ok let’s tap the breaks here . . . Reidon isn’t getting fired yet.


Right now he’s doing what Monumental expects him to do:  making sure Ovie leads the league in goals and closes in on 800.  Then ride “have a chance in the playoffs”, because they won once, . . .once, each year.


Do you really think Ted cares about a loss as long Ovie gets a hat trick?

 
Monumentals goal is to open the new arena with a statue of Ovie saying 800 goal-scorer out front, not winning games in January or even Cups.


This is why they let Trotz walk and hired Reidon



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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2019, 01:50:09 PM »

Agreed. Our forward corps is a rotating door of "who the fuck sits this game out" because we have too many forwards, while our defense is basically an episode of To Catch a Predator - a few old guys and a bunch of fucking kids.


Ovi, Backy, Kuzy (when he's not retarded), Wilson, Vrana, and Oshie to me are set as the top 6. Eller and Connolly help form the core of the 3rd line. I trust guys like Stephenson, Boyd, Jaskin, Dowd enough to have them fill in the rest of the forward group. Those are our 12 guys and we haven't even gotten to DSP yet, luckily. But at least we have people who weren't born yesterday.


Meanwhile, Carlson, Niskanen, Orlov, and Kempny (which, say what you will about their play, they're our best defenders). Then after that it goes downhill rapidly. You have Orpik, spokesman of the AARP, and fucking children like Seigenthaler, Bowey. One of our big guys on D goes down and you're getting pretty close to legitimately finding a homeless guy off the streets to play 6D




I agree generally but not about who are the big liabilities on defense in our own end.  Right now, I'd take Siegenthaler over Carlson, Orlov, Niskanen and Bowey.  All four of them have looked horrible.  I don't care what Carlson's plus/minus is.  I constantly see him batting it mindlessly around the boards to the opposition, sliding on his face into the corner attempting to block passes and getting caught up ice.  Defensively, he reeks.  He's becoming Mike Green II.  Orlov and Niskanen get pushed around and have been making dumb plays with the puck.  Bowey just has no idea what he's doing. 

The only guys half dependable are Kempny and Siegenthaler, IMO.  I say bring Lewington back up and play him.  Add Orpik, Carlson and either Orlov/Niskanen as the 6th guy.  Not great but the least damaging.  They really desperately need to add a quality veteran d-man who's 30 or under.  Two would be even better.  Trading for a forward is completely useless. Oh, and I agree on Rierden.  Two words:  Joel Quenneville.

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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2019, 02:08:41 PM »
I'm not ready to give up on Rierden. Gotta see if he can turn these guys around first. But more than that, if Rierdon gets canned then Ted/Monumental has to admit they screwed the pooch .....


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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2019, 02:56:29 PM »

They really desperately need to add a quality veteran d-man who's 30 or under.  Two would be even better.  Trading for a forward is completely useless. Oh, and I agree on Rierden.  Two words:  Joel Quenneville.

Agree. I'd prefer to see Burakovsky go in exchange for some defensive help. We've got enough forwards. In fact, with Burakovsky gone that's one less player to compete for the limited forward slots. Maybe we'd see some more continuity and consistency in the forward ranks, rather than a new guy sitting out every few days.

Also agree on Coach Q. Would definitely be willing to give him a shot. Willing to go for experience and proven track record over Reirden any day.


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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2019, 04:55:59 AM »
Joel Quenneville took some lumps before he became a successful coach.  They all do. 
I just think we should wait to see how the season ends before calling for that Homer Simpson head.

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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2019, 04:19:27 PM »
So it's now obvious that Reirden is a great coach, because he was the All Star coach and LED his All star team to a victory.


It must be someone else's fault the Caps have sucked ass lately.  :raspberry:



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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 06:46:07 PM »
So it's now obvious that Reirden is a great coach, because he was the All Star coach and LED his All star team to a victory.


It must be someone else's fault the Caps have sucked ass lately.  :raspberry:
Well, I’m sure if the NHL was just 3 on 3 with no hitting he’d be fine 🤣

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Re: Fire Reirden
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2019, 01:48:22 PM »
So it's now obvious that Reirden is a great coach, because he was the All Star coach and LED his All star team to a victory.


It must be someone else's fault the Caps have sucked ass lately.  :raspberry:


At this rate All Star games are the only thing Reirden will be winning