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GDT#24 Capitals @ Islanders 7:00 p.m. Mon Nov 26, 2018 NBCSWA+, SN, MSG+
alta:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Thursday November 29, 2018, 08:55:24 AM Eastern ---Uh oh! Gather round kids, I think we're getting ready to witness another episode of "were on the same page, but lets argue anyway" :wackysmile: :uh-huh: :rofl:
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there is a post about that elsewhere
Mickstix:
--- Quote from: alta on Thursday November 29, 2018, 11:39:46 AM Eastern ---
there is a post about that elsewhere
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:huh:
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Thursday November 29, 2018, 08:55:24 AM Eastern ---Uh oh! Gather round kids, I think we're getting ready to witness another episode of "were on the same page, but lets argue anyway" :wackysmile: :uh-huh: :rofl:
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LMFAO, once again Mick!🤣😂
I'm so damn glad that someone else, other than myself, sees it!
At 60 years old, I was considering possibly the first signs of my dementia!LOL
Hell, I'll even admit to some dementia, from time to time..... just not in this case!! Bwahahaha!😂😂
Rush
PUCKNRUSH:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Thursday November 29, 2018, 05:33:56 AM Eastern --- Sorry Rush but the corsi stat is by far the worst stat in hockey. Its used as an individual stat even though it is actually a 5 on 5 stat. It isnt a possession stat. Not even close. In fact a good possession team might have a lower corsi because they would rather hang onto the puck than throw low percentage shots towards the net. A lot of coaches feel that throwing a low percentage shot toward the net is more often than not just a change in possession or a turnover. I agree with that. If there is nothing there then why throw a low percentage shot towards the net. Corsi just isnt an actual possession stat.
In recent years a couple of the better corsi teams were Montreal and Carolina. But neither were very good teams. You may remember the Caps corsi was one of the worst. The stat is useless.
The plus/minus stat can be deceiving as well but at least it is straight forward. I think one thing that might help the stat a bit is if empty net goals weren't included.
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Maaco, why would you start your post with "Sorry Rush, but"?
That usually implies, albeit in a tactful way, (thank you), the idea that, you disagree, first off, and that the following sentence would define the substance of your disagreement! Uh....I'd like to ask one teency, tiny, little question.....
WHAT IS THE DISAGREEMENT YOU HAVE?? OR, said differently, WHERE'S THE FRICKIN' BEEF??
Corsi has sprouted into numerous hybrid forms, from its original TEAM statistic, and now has innumerable forms of use, by those into heavy analytics!
BUT.....
Rather than spell it out, let me cut right to the chase, ya know, using the "shorthand", you've requested!!
Kindly put your MONEY, where your YAP is, please! I will, right now!
**B E T**
I've got $100, (US dollars), that says Corsi, from its very beginning, both WAS, and IS, used as a PUCK POSSESSION STAT!!!
In front of this whole board here, I ask, ARE YOU IN?
By taking on this bet, if you do, we agree that proof must be established that Corsi is a puck possession stat. Furthermore, the fact that Corsi can be used for other purposes, either for individual, or team purposes, does NOT disclude the fact that it IS a puck possession stat!
No BS type wiggle room, buddy, this time, please!
Rush
alta:
Personally, I have never looked at CORSI. In my observations it appears people in the hockey world want it to work like numbers do for baseball. Thats just not possible. Hockey is to fluid for that to work.
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