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GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
Beaglefan2:
I could argue against Carlson being “good” defensively, but let’s set that aside.
For those not in the Carlson camp, here are three reasons why:
1. his lackadaisical style which comes across as laziness. He rarely shows much energy. A great example is on our power play after the other team clears the puck, Carlson always casually skates back to get the puck while precious seconds tick off the clock.
2. He is not physical - at all. This is more frustrating because he has a big body. To his credit, I’m sure he is a nice guy and a great family man, but he never punishes anybody in the corners or in the crease. We don’t ned him to be a fighter, but when has he ever dropped the gloves to stick up for another player? He doesn’t have an aggressive bone in his body. I think if we ever had an old-fashioned line brawl, Carlson would go sit on the bench.
3. He is a big part of the old guard culture core that just won’t/can’t do what it takes to win in the playoffs.
Maacoshark:
The game unfortunately has changed. There aren't many physical players left and even less guys that fight. Defensemen no longer play defense with bone crushing hits and clearing the front of the net. Now defense is about positioning and what they call a good stick. I dont like anymore than you do but thats the way the NHL has gone. Thats why you are seeing smaller defensemen in the league now.
If I had my way I'd have dmen like Stevens and Tinordi. Those guys would be banned for life if they played in today's NHL. The new NHL kinda sucks. Bettman Americanized it.
justwincaps:
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After what Carlson didnt cost us. No matter what happens you guys blame Carlson.
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Those of that have been watching him for almost 10 years do blame him when he screws up, yes. Have we singled him out? No.
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You single him out every game. I have also watched Carlson his entire career. He has had his ups and downs. But he is playing very well this year. Our best dman and it isn't even close. None of you guys will admit he is having a good year. When he does something good, which is quite often no one says a word. He makes a little mistake and you guys pounce on him. You even rip him when he did nothing wrong. Cut the guy some slack. Without him there is no way we are at the top of the division.
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Sometimes it’s just OK to say I disagree and let it go. People are entitled to their opinion. Resist the temptation to a) feel the need to be smarter and b) the need to try and prove it.
We aren’t debating scientific facts to be proven or disproven.
Beaglefan2:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Sunday December 31, 2017, 03:33:06 PM Eastern --- The game unfortunately has changed. There aren't many physical players left and even less guys that fight. Defensemen no longer play defense with bone crushing hits and clearing the front of the net. Now defense is about positioning and what they call a good stick. I dont like anymore than you do but thats the way the NHL has gone. Thats why you are seeing smaller defensemen in the league now.
If I had my way I'd have dmen like Stevens and Tinordi. Those guys would be banned for life if they played in today's NHL. The new NHL kinda sucks. Bettman Americanized it.
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Agree. I don't have to see a bunch of fights, but I swear, the Players Union has circulated a secret truce among the teams that says "no body checks!". It just infuriates me to see forwards skating freely along the boards in the corner, when usually the defenseman has the angle to pound them. Not only would it be a physical play, but it would be the right play. Instead, the defenseman these days just skate parallel and poke check.
I have to say (and I never thought I would say this) I really like Orpik this year as at least he is one guy that still hits in the corners and makes guys think twice about skating down the middle.
Maacoshark:
I'd love the physical play back in this league. I agree about Orpik even if he is a pylon out there at times. He makes guys think twice about entering the zone when he is on the ice.
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