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GDT#40 Devils @ Capitals Dec 30, 2017 7:00pm EST NBCSPW
alta:
Devils head coach was upset in the lost game because the Caps has 6 guys on the ice for “the whole” play. I missed the question so I don’t know what play he was imagining but I know I saw 6-7 white sweaters on the ice at one time with no call
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Saturday December 30, 2017, 10:25:47 PM Eastern ---Carlson catches flak because he's not that great at "defense".. He's an offensive defenseman, who's about to be paid in the 6-7 million dollar a year range, eat up a great deal of our cap (if he stays here) and just be a "good" defenseman.. He's like a great 3rd line forward, who gets some solid points but plays 200 feet.. Normally you'd love that guy! Except when the team offers him 7 million bucks a year for like 6-7 years.. :o
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Carlson is fine defensively. If he was weak defensively they wouldnt be pairing him with Djoos who isn't a defensive defence man. Carlson's play has been a huge part of his success. If he was weak defensively he wouldn't be killing penalties. He wouldn't be on the ice when the game is on the line. Carlson is our best dman on the pp and pk. He is decent 5 on 5 as well. He is our best dman by a mile. You can't debate that.
ArJunaZ:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:41:31 PM Eastern ---
--- Quote from: altajava on Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:20:31 PM Eastern ---74 should’ve just glided straight to the bench after that
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After what Carlson didnt cost us. No matter what happens you guys blame Carlson.
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For the record, I thought Carlson played a great game. He's also been very much improved and alert lately. I only ever gave him grief for his occasional brain lockups. He's for a long time now been a top defenseman, especially since he took Mike Green's spot on the PP and finally got the hang of those touch passes to Ovie's office.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: altajava on Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:50:16 PM Eastern ---
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:41:31 PM Eastern ---
--- Quote from: altajava on Saturday December 30, 2017, 09:20:31 PM Eastern ---74 should’ve just glided straight to the bench after that
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After what Carlson didnt cost us. No matter what happens you guys blame Carlson.
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Those of that have been watching him for almost 10 years do blame him when he screws up, yes. Have we singled him out? No.
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I think the real issue is he’s being played and marketed as an “elite” Dman. The result is a large amount of minutes (which is highly impressive and deservant of praise), that results in hes weakness being exposed, bad tendencies developed etc., more often that causes most of the distrust, disappointment and even dislike towards him.
While certainly and upper tier Dman, it is unreasonable and inaccurate to put him on the class of Burns, Dougherty, Keith, Gairdi, Webber, etc.
This ultimately comes down to management and the orginization asking fat to much of him. Both to belong in that class and in the system. Any criticism of him, should not that, and the lack of attention to the DCorps in general (note that most elite dman, have good DCorps around then too)
That being said, he is still young for a Dman. Mike Green (who got it way worse than Carlson), played some of his best all around hockey this year significantly under the radar. He (finally) became a very good all around Dman and his typical PP threat.
So there is still time for Carlson to come around. The issue is what cap space hit will he ask for and will they able to afford him and help for him.
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: altajava on Saturday December 30, 2017, 10:29:14 PM Eastern ---Devils head coach was upset in the lost game because the Caps has 6 guys on the ice for “the whole” play. I missed the question so I don’t know what play he was imagining but I know I saw 6-7 white sweaters on the ice at one time with no call
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The Caps had 6 players in the offensive zone on the Niskanen goal
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