GDT#16 Coyotes @ Capitals 5:00 p.m. ET Sun Nov 11, 2018 NBCSWA, FS-A

[alta]

   I'm fucking done trying to be civil with you. You showed your true colors. And you continue to refuse to acknowledge it.
     Did I not make a sincere comment when you posted about your snake bite? Did you think I was being sarcastic? Was there a reason you couldn't do the same?

You've been uncivil to me since the very first day you joined us ridiculing me about picking Holts in ArJ's GWG poll while conveniently skipping over the post I made explaining my tongue in cheek pick as that all happened in the exact same GDT. You accused me of "pounding Carlson into the ground" yet when I asked for you to quote me I was ignored. There have been a couple other things where you accused me of saying something and when I asked you quote me you couldn't. Last season you actually admitted you intentionally push my buttons, yet some how it's me. Now you are butt hurt because I didn't directly respond about your wife being ill. On top of that you are so delusional you can't even see how you berate everyone else with a different opinion about the game. You need psychological help in a bad way. I can be very civil, to a point. You push beyond that point I will let you know. If you haven't figured that out no one can help you.

[4 Caps]

That was a brutal game.  Really disappointed in our effort in the first period and then we just couldn’t finish our chances in the 2nd and 3rd periods.  This was a game we should have won and now we have a tough road trip coming up.  We may be lucky to win one game.  Things could get ugly fast. 

[alta]

I'm not sure how I feel about Rierdon switching up the lines to go back to the old 8-19-77 line.  My fear is that 92 is still a little bit immature and might see it as a "demotion" -- taking the other top player off his line.  If I were Todd I would not be fucking with the lineup that won the Cup because if the team does go south he's going to look like a dickhead.  This team will only go as far as 92 will take them.  He was their best player during the Cup run and he has to be their best player consistently for them to be elite.  He was for the first couple of weeks but he's been having more of the old "hissy fit" stuff of late:

- too much overpassing
- bitching at the refs when he doesn't get a call
- not working hard enough on the defensive end

A young guy with a world of talent and a brand new 8 year $62M contract is a recipe for disaster if guys like Ovie don't ride him hard.  He needs to step up -- the past 2 weeks have sucked.

The thought actually occurred to me tonight, that's he's turning into another Semin

[alta]

The mess on the lines with Willy gone just shows how good of a forward he's become. He's gotta be smart about hitting for the next two seasons to let this habitual tag come off

[Maacoshark]

From another thread today:
How do you reconcile these two posts Maaco?  It seems that only one hockey view is allowed by you.

AFAIC I am getting tired of this abrasiveness that you brought with you when you first arrived here. You improved a little for awhile, but now it's just getting old, it's distracting, and it creates stress in the heart. I hope someone pulls the plug on this.

    Those 2 posts that you quoted are from different threads and arent even related.


I have discussed issues with Alta with you and nothing has ever been done. I have tried to be civil with him but he refuses. I talked to him via pm trying to put our differences aside and he just flat out refused. He has never once tried to have a civil conversation with me. Instead he would rather try to push my buttons or mock me. And there is no way to deny it. Do you actually think his actions are OK? Do you realize that he attacked me the very first day I had ever posted on the other site and he has carried that with him here. I even commented to you that I was disappointed that he couldn't put his differences aside after I did so for him. Funny thing was that you didnt seem to even know about Alta's encounter with a snake until I told you. I dunno I thought I was doing the right thing when I wished him well. Like I said I was willing to put our differences aside. Apparently he wasnt willing to do the same. And yes it bothers me.
   
     
   

[Maacoshark]

Anyway a pretty meh game. No one really looked impressive tonight. Pp sucked pk sucked. 5on 5 men. Holtby was pretty average. They looked pretty flat. And a tough road trip coming up.

[ArJunaZ]

 

    Those 2 posts that you quoted are from different threads and arent even related.

And  . . . . . ?

Keep going, the connection might still have a chance to get through.

[Maacoshark]

And  . . . . . ?

Keep going, the connection might still have a chance to get through.

     There is no connection?

[PUCKNRUSH]

Under Dan Snyder’s leadership, the Skins are 27 games under .500


But are now first in the NFC East

😂🤣😂😂🤣😂!! Here, Here!!


Rush

[PUCKNRUSH]

That was a brutal game.  Really disappointed in our effort in the first period and then we just couldn’t finish our chances in the 2nd and 3rd periods.  This was a game we should have won and now we have a tough road trip coming up.  We may be lucky to win one game.  Things could get ugly fast.

Sure was tough to watch, 4Caps.
The last two games of a five game home stand, with no back to backs, plenty of rest, and they just go flat. Go figure, but it’s starting to smell familiar!


I just realized that I was feeling about the same way, at this exact time, last year, at approx. the 15-16 game mark. I believe we were just over .500, and there seemed to be not just one thing, but MANY issues that were affecting the team. So many different, underperforming facets of the game, that it was hard to determine where to start with correction.


The similarities are almost uncanny. Bad D, 5 on 5 goal production was extremely low, PK and PP not doing well, and less quality goal tending. (Yes, Holtz is underperforming right now, and he’d be the first to tell you, regardless of some decent game saving saves! He’s also been Swiss cheese on a few, too)! So much is eerily similar to this time last year, IMO.


Anyway, plenty of blame to go around. With the two earlier wins this week, I was hoping it was an early indicator that Rierden was moving the team in the right direction. Obviously, not yet! I’m not discarding the idea, but I’ve shifted back to the neutral, wait and see mode.


Nearly everyone on the ice looked like they were very FLAT. Both physically and mentally. Appearing not very interested in hustling. Again, wasn’t this also similar to last year!! Then we heard in the media, that Trotz had handed the entire locker room a good ass chewing, that was unusually heavy!!


If memory serves me right, we then went on a VERY successful road trip, bringing back some good standings points, and a winning attitude! This took place around games 18-20 or so, or certainly within the first quarter of the season. It went from hopeless, to hopeful quite quickly I recall!


Mind you, I’m not attempting a pep rally style post here. Also not going gloom and doom either. Rather, pointing out the similarities, and noting what a potential litmus test this upcoming road trip actually IS!


A real potential eye opener type of litmus test! Especially on the coaching staff. These next games will be approaching the infamous 20 game mark!

Will Rierden have the ability to lift this teams attitude? Can he get the boys to start buying in? What about the goaltending, moving forward, without Mitch Korn anymore?  My honest answer is “I don’t know, yet!”


The waiting to see part SUCKS, for sure, as it’s an unknown! I guess it’s only a notch better than had we returned already from this road trip with a real bad showing!!
Well 4CAPS, there’s My two cents!


Rush

[DC_1908]

I'm not sure how I feel about Rierdon switching up the lines to go back to the old 8-19-77 line.  My fear is that 92 is still a little bit immature and might see it as a "demotion" -- taking the other top player off his line.  If I were Todd I would not be fucking with the lineup that won the Cup because if the team does go south he's going to look like a dickhead.  This team will only go as far as 92 will take them.  He was their best player during the Cup run and he has to be their best player consistently for them to be elite.  He was for the first couple of weeks but he's been having more of the old "hissy fit" stuff of late:

- too much overpassing
- bitching at the refs when he doesn't get a call
- not working hard enough on the defensive end

A young guy with a world of talent and a brand new 8 year $62M contract is a recipe for disaster if guys like Ovie don't ride him hard.  He needs to step up -- the past 2 weeks have sucked.

If Kuzy is to immature, then he needs to grow the fuck up and realize that not only last year was last year, but as long as #19 is here, he will always be the number #2 AND second best center regardless of the lineup card.  While he’s popular and gets a few points, he’s simply not a 200ft center.


The more this season goes on, the losses of Wilson, Beagle, and Chaisson are exposing the lack of depth on the roster.  Backstrom, Stevenson, Oshie. DSP and Boyd can only do so much to make up the sloppy and morbidly idiotic play of every one else, and drag them along at the same time

[KitFisto]

If there is one thing that I have learned about arguments on the internet ( or in real life)......... Neither side is ever at fault LOL.

[4 Caps]

Rush I think your analysis is spot on.  As I recall last year, after two terrible losses on the road to Nashville and Colorado which occurred at about the exact same time as now, actually I just looked it up and the loss to Nashville occurred on November 14 and the loss to Colorado occurred on November 16th, the Caps turned it around.  So I am still hopefull for this season, I think getting Willie back will help both on the PK and even strength play.  I think the lines will become more stable and that will help.  Also I think we miss Orpik on the PK and we should be getting him back in 4 more games.  I think Carlson’s description of the Caps play in yesterday’s game as being blah is perfect.  I am worried about this upcoming road trip though, the first three games at least are going to be very tough and the Caps will need their A game to win.  A performance like yesterday’s will result in 3 more losses. 

[Mickstix]

    Look where it is coming from. I'm not sure if he is trying to ruffle feathers or if he really thinks that way. I hope he is trying to just ruffle feathers.

Your continuing to quote/comment on something/someone you're supposedly "done with" seems like what you really want to do is have a confrontation? 


On a side note, sorry to hear about you getting snake bit Alta!!  I imagine that's some painful shit.. Saturday I was told their was a coral snake out in the hedge, so I rushed out there expecting to point out it was actually a king snake.. Nope, fucking coral snake. Tried to kill his ass but he was too quick. 

[Mickstix]

I think getting Willie back will help both on the PK and even strength play.

I only saw the last 10 minutes, but I notice they gave up 2 more PP goals??? WTF is wrong with the PK? I know they miss Wilson, but it seems like they can't stop anyone, anywhere on the PK this year.. Are they last in PK %??

[4 Caps]

I only saw the last 10 minutes, but I notice they gave up 2 more PP goals??? WTF is wrong with the PK? I know they miss Wilson, but it seems like they can't stop anyone, anywhere on the PK this year.. Are they last in PK %??

I know they are in the bottom five but don’t think they are last. 

[BlackIce]

I only saw the last 10 minutes, but I notice they gave up 2 more PP goals??? WTF is wrong with the PK? I know they miss Wilson, but it seems like they can't stop anyone, anywhere on the PK this year.. Are they last in PK %??

They are missing Wilson AND they couldn't resign Beagle AND Eller has gotten off to a mediocre at best start this season AND Reirden has been experimenting with playing offensive forwards on the PK at times.  The intersection of everything adds up to a PK that isn't in the same

[Mickstix]

They are missing Wilson AND they couldn't resign Beagle

Ah, Beagle is missing as well.. Hadn't thought about that! I guess 2 strong killers down can disrupt the apple cart.. I've not "noticed" Kuzy being a liability on the PK, but again I've not been seeing all the games either.. Just noticing the # of PP goals we seem to give up most nights..

[DC_1908]

Ah, Beagle is missing as well.. Hadn't thought about that! I guess 2 strong killers down can disrupt the apple cart.. I've not "noticed" Kuzy being a liability on the PK, but again I've not been seeing all the games either.. Just noticing the # of PP goals we seem to give up most nights..

The PK is not a priority for the organization . . . more goals for them, more goals we need to score.


That leaves a roster that is mostly to "skilled","talented","special", to work their ass off in the weight room, film room, and PK even if they won't score goals.   It will be interesting to see just how long the organization will let the season go on like this before they start bringing up the likes Greitsch, Walker, and Obrien to start taking roster places from guys who think that winning 16 makes them elite and untouchable. . .


Whenever it is, dont be surprised if its too late

[PUCKNRUSH]

Your continuing to quote/comment on something/someone you're supposedly "done with" seems like what you really want to do is have a confrontation? 


On a side note, sorry to hear about you getting snake bit Alta!!  I imagine that's some painful shit.. Saturday I was told their was a coral snake out in the hedge, so I rushed out there expecting to point out it was actually a king snake.. Nope, fucking coral snake. Tried to kill his ass but he was too quick. 

Hey Mick!
Two years of my childhood was spent in Florida. That would be second and third grade. I live in Jacksonville, and went to Orange Park elementary school, where we had "coral snake sightings", All the time. Most of them were corn snakes which can be similar.
After getting disappointed several times as kids, me and my buddy, who is a little more of a nature boy than I was, (he would pull armadillos up by the tail, as they were digging down in the ground), we came upon a REAL coral snake.  It was really slender and fast, and not very long either. My buddy caught it with a stick, and brought it to the teacher, as we did not know it was a coral snake, yet!


I had never really seen any adult freak out so much as did our teacher that day! She ran down the hall, screaming, and got the principal, as we just stood there in the class. The principal made the entire class, including myself, leave, except for the boy that was holding the snake. It was like an evacuation.

[/size][size=78%] Then I think they got a box and gave it to some park police guy or something I can't remember. Looking back on it I thought it was a little bit of over drama as I got older, as I learned that the size of a coral snakes mouth is so small it's actually hard to bite adult human, although there are venom is extremely toxic!  I don't claim to know this is fact just something I've heard along the road of life.  Can you shed any light on the truth of this?[/size]


Rush