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Trotz resigned
« on: Monday June 18, 2018, 03:17:37 PM Eastern »
Who's next - Reirdon?

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #1 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 03:34:10 PM Eastern »
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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #2 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 03:39:56 PM Eastern »
I will miss Trotz.  Pure class on and off the ice.  I don't think he's going anywhere else.  Retire on top!


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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #3 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 03:44:41 PM Eastern »
He'll end up in NY with the Isles. Sad to see him go now the they got it done. He found the right buttons to push with this group.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #4 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 03:58:10 PM Eastern »
Very controversial decision by Trotz,however the club is more than one good person thus maybe new coach would help our team in new season to be motivated and energized for winning a cup 2 time in a row!
But the most important for now is to appoint a right person as a coach!



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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #5 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 04:16:28 PM Eastern »
It's going to be Reirden.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #6 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 04:20:00 PM Eastern »
Wow.  Well good on Trotz I guess.[/size]When was the last time a coach resigned/retired just after winning the cup? (especially his first cup)
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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #7 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 04:23:04 PM Eastern »
I did not see this coming at all.  I am totally shocked, I can’t believe they could not reach an agreement on a new contract.  I know that apparently under his old contract he got a two year extension with a 300,000 dollar increase in salary for winning the Cup but that is peanuts.  He deserved more than that.  He is going to be a big loss, I expect Todd Rierden will become the head coach and I like him but he has some big shoes to fill. 

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #8 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 04:23:40 PM Eastern »
Wow.  Well good on Trotz I guess.When was the last time a coach resigned/retired just after winning the cup? (especially his first cup)


Kennan in 94 and Bowman in 2002, but that wasn't Bowman's first cup.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #9 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 04:32:02 PM Eastern »
We need Gordon Bombay!

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #10 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 04:50:21 PM Eastern »
Well, this is one reason I said that there's no downtime after the Stanley Cup win --  the team had to get busy on next year right away.  The team won less than two weeks ago, and already this decision is made, probably partially to let Trotz hit the market and partially to give Reirden closure on what is going to happen.  I bet the Caps made a business decision, offering Trotz a raise to, say, $3 million annually, but not the $5 million that the market demands now, figuring they would rather move on with Reirden and pay him less than 1/3 of what they would have had to spend on Trotz.


Or maybe Trotz really had his mind made up ahead of time, DID tell Torts that he wasn't returning, and really meant it from his point of view, not the Caps' point of view.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #11 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 05:31:53 PM Eastern »
Well, this is one reason I said that there's no downtime after the Stanley Cup win --  the team had to get busy on next year right away.  The team won less than two weeks ago, and already this decision is made, probably partially to let Trotz hit the market and partially to give Reirden closure on what is going to happen.  I bet the Caps made a business decision, offering Trotz a raise to, say, $3 million annually, but not the $5 million that the market demands now, figuring they would rather move on with Reirden and pay him less than 1/3 of what they would have had to spend on Trotz.


Or maybe Trotz really had his mind made up ahead of time, DID tell Torts that he wasn't returning, and really meant it from his point of view, not the Caps' point of view.


If Trotz had his mind made up for certain hard for me not to see it then being retirement. It's easy to forget that Trotz isn't entirely Ovie, he's been in the NHL and coaching in general a long time. 20 years of NHL head coach experience, and he's been coaching technically since 1984. So he's been doing this for over half his life at this point. It wouldn't be hard to see that after the Cup win he's just ready to settle down.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #12 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 06:38:17 PM Eastern »
If he retires we'll know if wasn't about the money.. Which we all know, it's always about the money.. lol I was ready to call for his head when the playoffs started, so can't really cry when he wins a cup and decides to walk.. But that's probably the best chance at repeating, walking out the door.. Back to the rookie head coaches that the players will either like or respect (when they feel like it) play 150 feet instead of 200, all that good stuff.. Oh well, they can't take it away! We've got a cup!!  :raspberry:

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #13 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 06:51:45 PM Eastern »
there may be a ton of reasons for this. maybe a purely family one like they hate living in D.C. or something. Or maybe he just wants to relax and coach without high expectations and go to NYI. Or maybe it really was just a money issue. I have a feeling though that he just wants to live a more stress-free life

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #14 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 06:52:07 PM Eastern »



Reactions from BMGM. Seems like Mick nailed it that it seems to be money related, but still word out on a possible retirement. He also indicated term may be the problem too perhaps he wanted less seasons? But we wanted more money for more seasons? I don't know.


If Trotz goes to another team it'll be a huge loss for us. Huge. Especially if it's a in division competitor like the Isles etc.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #15 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 06:56:41 PM Eastern »
I did not see this coming at all.  I am totally shocked, I can’t believe they could not reach an agreement on a new contract.  I know that apparently under his old contract he got a two year extension with a 300,000 dollar increase in salary for winning the Cup but that is peanuts.  He deserved more than that.  He is going to be a big loss, I expect Todd Rierden will become the head coach and I like him but he has some big shoes to fill.


Wow, how generous to give him a $300K bump for a Stanley Cup win to his already low $1.5M.  At least low to other coaches making $5M-$6M.  That is a slap in the face and just downright disrespectful.  Some more organization arrogance....it doesn’t matter who the coach is, we have the talent, mentality.....how has that worked out for us under Ted.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #16 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 07:06:29 PM Eastern »

Wow, how generous to give him a $300K bump for a Stanley Cup win to his already low $1.5M.  At least low to other coaches making $5M-$6M.  That is a slap in the face and just downright disrespectful.  Some more organization arrogance....it doesn’t matter who the coach is, we have the talent, mentality.....how has that worked out for us under Ted.


My understanding is that Trotz himself negotiated that 300k bump for a cup 4 years ago. If so then he slapped himself in the face.

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #17 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 09:22:44 PM Eastern »
Apparently Trotz wanted five years at 5 million per year.  Caps did not want to give him that long of a contract or that much money and Trotz was not willing to accept less.  If that is true I can understand why a deal didn’t get done. 

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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #18 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 09:25:32 PM Eastern »

My understanding is that Trotz himself negotiated that 300k bump for a cup 4 years ago. If so then he slapped himself in the face.


Maybe, but I haven't seen anything to confirm that yet. The bigger issue is fact that this organization won't/can't offer more. The only exception would be if Trotz truly is stepping away from the game and more money wouldn't make a difference.
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Re: Trotz resigned
« Reply #19 on: Monday June 18, 2018, 09:31:51 PM Eastern »
Apparently Trotz wanted five years at 5 million per year.  Caps did not want to give him that long of a contract or that much money and Trotz was not willing to accept less.  If that is true I can understand why a deal didn’t get done.


In this market I think that is perfectly reasonable. I'm sure the contract would still be worded in a way to let the Caps fire him if need be, i.e. if he lost the locker room.

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