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Trotz resigned
BlackIce:
--- Quote from: Second Sucks on Friday June 22, 2018, 11:29:19 PM Eastern ---
Are you really saying coaching doesn’t matter...that anyone can do it? Because it has only took us 44 years to win the Cup. Do I think Trotz is the only answer...no, but why do we always look at rookies for coaches...simple...they are cheap. You put your trust in a GM who gave Orpik and Oshie those terrible contracts and you put your faith in him? Well good luck to us.
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We'll see how Oshie plays out over the next several years. Maybe he's a player who will age well. Maybe he isn't.
I'm sure I'm in a minority here, but in retrospect I don't think Orpik's contract was a terrible one. Was he overpaid? Yes, but UFA's generally are. Orpik was brought in for a specific purpose -- to provide a shutdown defenseman with snarl and commitment. THAT he did. I don't know if anyone here realizes what a stupendous season Orpik had his first year here to fulfill that purpose. In his first season here his hits + blocks -- the counting stats of a tough defenseman -- totaled over 500, in an era when the NHL was transitioning to the current speed game. No other defenseman in the league was within 100 of him. The Caps brought him in to set an example, and that is exactly what he did. He was hurt for half of his second year -- it happens. Even this year, he was a competent 3rd pairing/PK defenseman, which is probably all you can ask at his age in an era where he is more and more of a dinosaur. And he was traded out of the last year of that contract. So my assessment is that the Caps got at least decent value, if not totally fair value, out of that contract.
As for the coaching situation, I've moved on from Trotz. Everything I've heard from GMBM is that his main concern with Trotz is that he didn't think he had a shelf life of 5 more years here, which is the term Trotz wanted. That is an internal assessment that I have no way of knowing how to judge. He certainly seemed to go out on good terms with the team -- of course, a Stanley Cup will do that!! It seems strange for me on the surface to think that Trotz's mojo would wear off in a couple more years, but that's what the party line seems to be. As for who takes his place, we've seen both rookie and experienced coaches do well in the league. If Rierden is the man, so be it. I'm more concerned that the new coach be the best fit for the nature of the team as it is now and is able to work with both younger and older players effectively. Let's see who the 2018/2019 coaching STAFF is, too. I think the total coaching staff may be a little more important in the NHL than it is in the other major sports (OK, maybe not football.)
KitFisto:
I think Oshie will age well. He's not overly fast so losing a step won't hurt his game. I doubt his skill will just deteriorate much. He has good hockey sense and isn't going to lose that. He's the type of player who can probably play until close to 40 and still be productive IMO......baring serious injuries of course.
alta:
Maybe we can have a head coach now that will tell the zebras when they are are wrong instead of saying thank you may I have another, this is pretty much my only issue with Trotz. The coach doesn't need to be an ass to tell the zebras they were wrong, but he does need to tell them
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: alta on Saturday June 23, 2018, 07:13:22 PM Eastern ---Maybe we can have a head coach now that will tell the zebras when they are are wrong instead of saying thank you may I have another, this is pretty much my only issue with Trotz. The coach doesn't need to be an ass to tell the zebras they were wrong, but he does need to tell them
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I know from experience that telling the refs that they are wrong usually doesnt benefit you.
OldHat:
--- Quote from: chas on Friday June 22, 2018, 07:29:06 PM Eastern ---
Look at the original terms. A $300,000 kicker for winning the Cup? That seems ridiculously low. Trotz must have had a terrible agent.
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May be, but he signed the contract. That should mean something.
And it's pretty sick that the state of the world is that one could scoff at a 300k raise.
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