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Trotz resigned
chas:
--- Quote from: OldHat on Friday June 22, 2018, 06:20:27 PM Eastern ---
The more I think about it the more I'm torn. Trotz did have a Cup winning clause in his contract. An extension and a raise. So he did want to redo what he had already agreed to. That's a bit of a sticking point for me.
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Look at the original terms. A $300,000 kicker for winning the Cup? That seems ridiculously low. Trotz must have had a terrible agent.
chas:
--- Quote from: Second Sucks on Thursday June 21, 2018, 10:07:13 PM Eastern ---
So, what is the first Stanley Cup in an organizations 44 year history worth? And with a team admittedly not as talented in years past? So, it really comes down to $10M. Basically the difference in the amount he signed for with the Islanders and what they wanted to give him. Term.....you can fire him and pay him, but no, let’s go with a new coach with no NHL head coaching experience. We have been there and done that and no results. How many chances at the Stanley Cup did we miss during the OV era because of Ted’s arrogance believing experienced coaching doesn’t matter.
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I remember some posts (on another board of course) that Trotz wasn't going to get us the Cup because he never had won a Cup. So, it feels like magical thinking that you need head coaching experience to be a head coach. Where do these head coaches come from? Granted, we have a history of promoting idiots to head coach but that mostly falls to GMGM IMHO. Let's see if GMBM has a better handle on what makes a good coach.
You have to wonder who the players were listening to all season if they knew that Trotz was basically a lame duck (to borrow from politics). Was this run inspired by the team in an attempt to help prove the worth of Trotz? Or did Trotz just checkout at the start of the playoffs and turn control over to Rierden? All will be revealed next season...
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: chas on Friday June 22, 2018, 07:36:02 PM Eastern ---
I remember some posts (on another board of course) that Trotz wasn't going to get us the Cup because he never had won a Cup. So, it feels like magical thinking that you need head coaching experience to be a head coach. Where do these head coaches come from? Granted, we have a history of promoting idiots to head coach but that mostly falls to GMGM IMHO. Let's see if GMBM has a better handle on what makes a good coach.
You have to wonder who the players were listening to all season if they knew that Trotz was basically a lame duck (to borrow from politics). Was this run inspired by the team in an attempt to help prove the worth of Trotz? Or did Trotz just checkout at the start of the playoffs and turn control over to Rierden? All will be revealed next season...
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I wouldn’t put that all on GMGM, he didn’t have total control of that. Ted and Monumental does.
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: alta on Thursday June 21, 2018, 03:06:53 PM Eastern ---Fukin Caps couldn't come off 5 years for $20 mil. Anyone here still doubt what DC say about management??
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I've always thought our biggest problems were with management. Have to say I'm disappointed to see Trotz gone. Hope he succeeds with his new team.
Second Sucks:
--- Quote from: RavenCp on Friday June 22, 2018, 11:09:05 AM Eastern ---
This is how I see it, too. When we can how everyone plays, coaching is more opaque. We see results and usually all credits go to Head Coach. GM definitely has more visibility on such things. Blocking from interviews Rierden just confirmed the value of this assistant coach. D greatly excelled also a very good sign. Would he be a great Head Coach? I hope so, although there is always risk involved. Even with Trotz.
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Are you really saying coaching doesn’t matter...that anyone can do it? Because it has only took us 44 years to win the Cup. Do I think Trotz is the only answer...no, but why do we always look at rookies for coaches...simple...they are cheap. You put your trust in a GM who gave Orpik and Oshie those terrible contracts and you put your faith in him? Well good luck to us.
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