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DC_1908:
--- Quote from: richkrt99 on Sunday June 17, 2018, 01:33:22 PM Eastern ---
I would go look it up, but I'm too busy and lazy...and incapable, but I ragged on DC at least couple years ago about this...
I said something about Caps could win three Cups in a row, going 48-0 on a three year SC run and he (DC) would not be satisfied and would still be calling them out for poor ownership, poor management, poor coaching, video game players with no heart, no effort, etc, etc.
I am grateful for our players and coaching and management and ownership. The mantra that comes out when they fall short that they just don't care is horse puckey. You can't get to this level of professional sports and play in the premier league of any sport....and not have heart.
So for now, I am Happy and will bask in the Glory of the ultimate prize MY TEAM brought home - after being a long suffering Caps fan. I always loved and supported my team even when they fell short. It did not hurt any less, but ragging on them for failure wasn't fair and does not make me feel any better.
(BTW - all this isn't pointed at DC, but just toward us fans in general)
SO much complaining on the boards about this years roster and all the mistakes management made before the season and blah, blah, blah....I'm pretty sure they know more than us....hence they run the team and we watch them play.
We just won the Stanley Cup - the hardest thing in team sports to do. I'd say a lot of someones in the Caps organization did something rather well this year.
We complained about: paying Kuzy too much money, the Orlov contract, the Oshie deal, the Eller deal, letting Alzner walk, giving up Mojo (who was always volcano bait until we trade him and suddenly he was great), letting Smitty go (yes this sucked, but we could not protect everyone, and which guy we kept over Smitty do you think we would have won the cup without?. We hated Burka, Conolly, Kempney, etc, etc etc.)
The list of guys we as a whole have complained endlessly about on this team encompasses each and every player on this roster who played as a group and just overcame every obstacle and WON us THE STANLEY CUP
We should all now be eating crow and just saying thank you and congratulations.
How about we congratulate them on a job well done and enjoy the long awaited success?
Do I think this team is built to be a dynasty that will continue for years to come? No. (What team can do that in this salary cap and free agent era anyway?)
Do I think this years Caps team played as a team, played above their skill level at times, and its sum was greater than its' parts? Hell Yes. We just won the Cup baby!
Did I think we were gonna get here this year? Heck no. Am I going to enjoy winning the cup anyway? Hell Yeah.
I'm loving it. I still can't believe it. I am so happy for this team, not bitter about how long it took them to get here.
Go Caps
Hey DC...it just dawned on me....was it you that asked OVIE if he thought "we gonna suck this year?" :P
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No, but it of been a lot cooler if I did 8)
Basically, and on topic with this thread, I reject the Aristotelian Logic of: We won The Cup, therefore the front office did a great job, therefore the front office is great and always has been.
Look everyone, (well about 98% of us anyway ), on this board has challenged the culture of this organization including their decisions, priorities, effectiveness, and even competence during Teds tenor owning the team if not before, including this season and at times during the playoffs. so to throw all of that out over the last 16, particularly 6 wins is not only illogical but irresponsible.
Hell most of the now traditional issues weve challenged where on full display at times during this playoff run.
What it comes to is Ted, Dick and Monumental are now at a crossroads on what that path to take the origination:
- Become hockey and do the same things and add the with the assumption of winning
- to say the "build a fun and marketable team that has a chance to win a Cup" worked once so go back to normal
- the players accepted to play playoff hockey, and learned how to win. Nothing is guaranteed, having a chance isnt good enough, so throw that crap out and start building a team strictly to win more Cups and hell with everything else.
. . .given the history of the same ol' Caps front office, I have strong doubts they will be willing, or able to, make the same decisions and sacrifices, (including players, stats, sales, focus groups, marketing), that the players and coaches made to win the first Cup to not take another 13 years to do it again.
Devise:
What a bummer. Trotz retires. I don't think Reirden is bad, don't get me wrong. But Trotz was so good for this youth movement, clearly he wants to end his long career on the high note he deserved. All the best to him, all that jazz. But still wish he'd of stuck it out here a bit longer. Tough to deal with.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Devise on Monday June 18, 2018, 03:08:36 PM Eastern ---What a bummer. Trotz retires. I don't think Reirden is bad, don't get me wrong. But Trotz was so good for this youth movement, clearly he wants to end his long career on the high note he deserved. All the best to him, all that jazz. But still wish he'd of stuck it out here a bit longer. Tough to deal with.
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yep. . . just heard and was looking for verification. . . .
Devise:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Monday June 18, 2018, 03:10:28 PM Eastern ---yep. . . just heard and was looking for verification. . . .
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Yeah for as much as the argument in this thread is about whether or not the players themselves are capable of keeping up to such a high standard. To ignore the role Coaching played for us in these last playoffs would be crazy. Most of the news say he's "resigning" but all the rumors I've heard is that he wants to call it a career.
Beaglefan2:
What I saw didn’t say he was retiring - just that he was resigning as the Caps coach. I didn’t see anything about Rierdon - was that announced?
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