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BlackIce:
--- Quote from: Devise on Thursday July 05, 2018, 10:48:18 PM Eastern ---I'm not saying he's not shown he's different when Korn has been around. However, I do think Holts isn't given enough credit for maturing. This feels like old water at this point. Like yes, when Trotz and co first showed up Holtby had a lot of goalie coach problems and re-figuring himself out to do. But that was 4 seasons ago. He's had Vezinas, deep playoff runs, clutch playoff performances, and now a Cup sense then.
At a certain point Holtby is going to turn into a Marty Broduer type here, and be the type of goalie that doesn't need to be babysat to help carry his team. I guess I just don't think Korn is nearly as important as he used to be, specific to Holtby.
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In any sport there are some people who seem to "do things naturally" and may seem to be independent of coaching, while others "tend to go off their game periodically" and need to be put or kept on track. For the latter kind of athlete, some can work well with almost any competent coach; others seem to mesh with particular people/personalities (and some never seem to find anyone from whom they can productively take direction.) Whatever type of person Holtby is, he's simply going to react to the change from Korn if/when it occurs. Even if Korn has been able to "get through" to Holtby in a beneficial way, nothing says there can't be someone else who can connect with him in the same way. It seems to me that, since a goalie coach focuses on one or two people, THAT coach might be one where not only the head coach, but at least the starting goalie, should have some input regarding the hire.
The only constant is change.
BlackIce:
Two comments:
(1) it appears that Korn wasn't all that influential to Holtby this past season anyway. He apparently had turned over the goaltending coach position to Murray and was around only in an advisory capacity. How much he may have come "out of the woodwork" to turn Holtby around for the playoffs we don't know. But Braden's season was what it was.
(2) It was announced that Wilson declined arbitration before Thursday's deadline. But there was an analogous deadline the next day for the team to choose arbitration if it wanted. I have heard nothing about whether or not the team chose to request arbitration with Wilson, and we know that they'd prefer to sign him to a long-term deal, but the arbitration would be a fallback (I understand that the parties can continue to negotiate until the actual arbitration hearing occurrs.) I presume, since there has been no word, that the team did not invoke arbitration, but it would be nice to have some confirmation of that.
Mickstix:
If neither party requests arbitration, does that allow Wilson to become unrestricted if they don't reach a deal? I suppose if that's the case, the Caps would never let it get to that.. When is the deadline for arbitration? Or is there one?
4 Caps:
--- Quote from: Mickstix on Sunday July 08, 2018, 09:21:19 AM Eastern ---If neither party requests arbitration, does that allow Wilson to become unrestricted if they don't reach a deal? I suppose if that's the case, the Caps would never let it get to that.. When is the deadline for arbitration? Or is there one?
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The deadline for arbitration has past for both the player and team. From what I have been reading they are close to signing a long term deal. The only leverage Wilson has now is to hold out if an agreement is not reached. He does not become an UFA. I am confident a deal will get done soon maybe this week.
dpf1971:
--- Quote from: 4 Caps on Sunday July 08, 2018, 11:12:15 AM Eastern ---
The deadline for arbitration has past for both the player and team. From what I have been reading they are close to signing a long term deal. The only leverage Wilson has now is to hold out if an agreement is not reached. He does not become an UFA. I am confident a deal will get done soon maybe this week.
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Soooo, correct me if I am wrong - but the only way we could lose Wilson (this upcoming season) is if he DID file for arbitration, allowed it to go that level and then the Club decided not to pay what the arbitrator decided what a fair deal would have been ... then he would become a UFA, right? So right now, since Wilson did not apply for arbitration, he can either work a deal with the Club or not play NHL hockey (or the Caps can trade his "rights").
PS - please Caps, resign LOB ... if he's getting better, he's exactly the kind of guy we need on the 4th line.
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