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BlackIce:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Sunday July 01, 2018, 07:21:45 PM Eastern ---
From watching the games last season, I'd say that Bowey right now is as good as any defenseman we have at making outlet passes. His weakness last season was along the walls. Not so much being outmuscled for the puck, but he seemed to have trouble figuring out where he should be relative to the puck to play it. He would consistently get on the wrong side of the puck and an opponent would just skate away with it. You could see the difference in opponents' strategy when the puck was in his area as opposed to when it was going to Carlson or Niskanen on the same side. Lots of times when those two had the puck at the boards opponents would lay off and lurk, hoping to pick off an ill-advised pass. Lots of people here complained about Carlson and Nisky turnovers, and opponents thought the same thing. On the other hand, when the puck was headed to Bowey, opponents would attack immediately, knowing they could carry the puck away, rather than hope that he would make an errant pass.
Too bad to lose Beagle, but $3 million AAV for 4 years was something we were never going to compete with. Can't blame him for going for that payday. What do people think about Antoine Vermette as a UFO replacement for Beagle? He should come much cheaper. I don't think he has nearly the motor that Beagle does, but throughout his career he has consistently been as good as anyone in the league in the face-off circle -- even a little bit better than Beagle.
As for the Defensemen, I am not impressed with Djoos's speed. If he has it, I rarely if ever saw him use it (like, for example, Nate Schmidt.) I think he survives on guile and smarts -- he is an EXTREMELY smart player. But size-wise, he is what he is and I don't think it will change significantly at this point. I have more faith in Bowey's potential than most, and I expect he will be on the roster full-time this season. I can see the logic in getting a more veteran, tough, stay at home defenseman to bridge the gap until the prospect pipeline sorts itself out. Whether it's Orpik or someone of a similar nature I don't know, but if it occurs it's going to have to be on the cheap.
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Not to advise this, but you all are aware that our old friend Chorney is out there, and could be had for less than $1 million?
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: Biggest on Sunday July 01, 2018, 02:27:33 PM Eastern ---Thx Maaco for the insights about our D prospects. One of the guys at Russian Machine questioned the 2nd round DMan we picked a couple weeks ago as well as Seigenthalter. We'll see if those concerns of the Slovakian and Seigenthaler being 'over drafted' as 2nd rounders when their names were called end up being spot on or not. I share your concern about Djoos needing to get more physical or being passed over in time by Bowey or others should those challengers for that bottom pairing DMan role step up their games.
Not sure if this is fair or not, but after the Prospects 'Development' Camp, I'm seeing Johansen and Alexeyev as having the most upside - more so than Djoos or Bowey, or any of the others. If you had to rank our D prospects in the pipeline, say from 1 to 6 (including Djoos), how would you rank them?
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Ranking our d prospects is tough. Right now Djoos is probably a bit a head of the other guys. I think sending Bowey back to Hershey was good for him. He played well when he was sent down and I think he would be right behind Djoos. After that Johansen, Hobbs and Seigenthalter are fairly even. I might give a slight edge to Hobbs because he is a right handed dman. We dont have as many right handed dmen. Alex Alexeyev would be behind them just because he hasn't played any in the pros yet. Lewington could be in the mix too if they want to add a physical presence.
Its possible we could trade some defensive prospects for some talent upfront. We dont have a lot of forwards that look promising.
Beaglefan2:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Sunday July 01, 2018, 07:23:51 PM Eastern ---
Not to advise this, but you all are aware that our old friend Chorney is out there, and could be had for less than $1 million?
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I really liked Chorney and thought he was playing well for us before he was the odd man out when they got the best defenseman ever - Shattenkirk. I think that ruined Chorney’s confidence and he hasn’t been the same since.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: Devise on Sunday July 01, 2018, 06:23:46 PM Eastern ---Still no word on Wislon, we did qualify him so it's not like he can go to another team. But curious if he ends up going to Arbitration? If so we could be looking at a big paycheck. I figure he'd be the perfect fit for a bridge deal, a few years at a little bump now for a bigger raise at the end. We'll see.
I'm kinda curious if we do anything else here. Orpik still on the market, DeHann still on the market. I'm assuming our target is D? We could probably use another fourth line forward as well. May not fit the bill completely of fourth liner, but he could be cheaper than Beagle, Patrick Maroon would be an interesting option as well. I know DC would love that what with him being 6'3 225lb. But shoring up that bottom six would be great. I absolutely would have no problem with Maroon playing wing next to Lars Eller. Hell throw DSP on the other wing and you'd have a pretty formidable third line.
I hope BMGM is still out there though. Losing Beagle matters. And while we do have some kids looking for promotions/some players to fill in some roles. The goal should be to repeat here, so adding where we can should absolutely be on the table.
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Id love to get Maroon and or DeHaan, but they are not the entertainment first players, or the cheap day-laboursto fill out n"the bottom six" Monumental insists on.
Cone on, there are the guys that think Nick Dowd is just fine to replace that worthless scrub Jay Beagle
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Monday July 02, 2018, 01:04:15 PM Eastern ---Id love to get Maroon and or DeHaan, but they are not the entertainment first players, or the cheap day-laboursto fill out n"the bottom six" Monumental insists on.
Cone on, there are the guys that think Nick Dowd is just fine to replace that worthless scrub Jay Beagle
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I think it will be Stephenson replacing Beagle. I wouldn't have a problem if we picked up Maroon to play the wing that Stephenson leaves vacant when he gets switched to center. This is wishful thinking.
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