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GDT R3G1 Capitals @ Lightning 2018-05-11 8:00pm EST NBCSN, CBC, SN, TVAS
BlackIce:
--- Quote from: Maacoshark on Saturday May 12, 2018, 10:32:32 PM Eastern --- It is true that most goals come off some kind of error. Whether its a defensive breakdown or a bad goal by the goalie or a bit of both. I can understand Tampa's first goal since it was on the pp and the penalty wasnt a bad penalty. The 2nd goal really is unacceptable. You are up 4-1 late in the game and you give up an odd man rush. I'm not even sure which dman it was that got caught. Carlson was the guy back so I assume it was Kempny. Doesn't really matter who it was it was a play that never should have happened. That last goal was an example of being aggressive in the offensive zone when it isn't necessary.
Maybe I am too critical but I am a firm believer in taking care of your own end first, the offense will take care if itself. When you have a 3 or 4 goal lead you don't need to take chances offensively. Just make the smart play.
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Ah, the old conundrum. How many times over the past years have we heard fans complain about the Caps sitting back too much with a lead to "try to take care of their own end first" and letting their opponents back into it? Presumably there is some kind of undefined fine line where one continues to play aggressively, but not TOO aggressively. That is a hard line to see, though, especially in a game as fast as hockey, and so sometimes the line is not adhered to. And so guess what?? Sometimes mistakes are made.
I refuse to get into this mindset that all mistakes are inexcusable. ALL sports are games infected by mistakes, because the players are human. Baseball pitchers throw fat pitches all the time; and batters often take them, or foul them off when they should have hit them hard. On virtually every football play somebody misses their block. Basketball players blow defensive coverage or get too aggressive and let someone blow by them constantly. Soccer, like hockey, is a game of turnovers. Even the best golfers will typically hit several bad shots in a round. And so it goes. To point out a mistake on a particular play and castigate the offender as if there is something personally wrong with them because they didn't do the right thing is pointless, and flies in the face of basic human nature.
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Sunday May 13, 2018, 08:39:02 AM Eastern ---
Ah, the old conundrum. How many times over the past years have we heard fans complain about the Caps sitting back too much with a lead to "try to take care of their own end first" and letting their opponents back into it? Presumably there is some kind of undefined fine line where one continues to play aggressively, but not TOO aggressively. That is a hard line to see, though, especially in a game as fast as hockey, and so sometimes the line is not adhered to. And so guess what?? Sometimes mistakes are made.
I refuse to get into this mindset that all mistakes are inexcusable. ALL sports are games infected by mistakes, because the players are human. Baseball pitchers throw fat pitches all the time; and batters often take them, or foul them off when they should have hit them hard. On virtually every football play somebody misses their block. Basketball players blow defensive coverage or get too aggressive and let someone blow by them constantly. Soccer, like hockey, is a game of turnovers. Even the best golfers will typically hit several bad shots in a round. And so it goes. To point out a mistake on a particular play and castigate the offender as if there is something personally wrong with them because they didn't do the right thing is pointless, and flies in the face of basic human nature.
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The problem with the Caps “sitting back” is a great example:
Novice fans who don’t recognize why they do it, find it boring because there’s no scoring
So DicklessPatrick creates teams to score for the novice fans
Then when it’s the correct and/or best strategy, the roster is not capable of doing it, so it doesn’t work and the other team scores.
So that won’t work so we have to play the video game style the novice want and we give up even more goals.
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: BlackIce on Sunday May 13, 2018, 08:39:02 AM Eastern ---
Ah, the old conundrum. How many times over the past years have we heard fans complain about the Caps sitting back too much with a lead to "try to take care of their own end first" and letting their opponents back into it? Presumably there is some kind of undefined fine line where one continues to play aggressively, but not TOO aggressively. That is a hard line to see, though, especially in a game as fast as hockey, and so sometimes the line is not adhered to. And so guess what?? Sometimes mistakes are made.
I refuse to get into this mindset that all mistakes are inexcusable. ALL sports are games infected by mistakes, because the players are human. Baseball pitchers throw fat pitches all the time; and batters often take them, or foul them off when they should have hit them hard. On virtually every football play somebody misses their block. Basketball players blow defensive coverage or get too aggressive and let someone blow by them constantly. Soccer, like hockey, is a game of turnovers. Even the best golfers will typically hit several bad shots in a round. And so it goes. To point out a mistake on a particular play and castigate the offender as if there is something personally wrong with them because they didn't do the right thing is pointless, and flies in the face of basic human nature.
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I'm not a fan of taking high risks when you have a lead late in the game. In any sport I have always believed in taking care of the defense first and the offense will make cxare if itself. I'm not talking about physical mistakes. Those happen. I'm talking about mental mistakes. Play the system and make smart plays. Especially when you are protecting a lead in the 3rd period. Don't get cute leaving the zone, make sure it gets out. And entering the offensive zone get the puck deep.
Stealyerfaceoff:
Well this is the ECF and the bolts ain't the little sisters of the poor. You can't expect to win every game with a shut out.
Make less mistakes than the opposition and capitalize on their mistakes while hoping for the puck luck to go your way.
Looking for perfection? So far 1-0 so that's perfect. But I don't think there will be a sweep.
chas:
Except for a few minutes in the beginning of the third Tampa simply could get past our trap. For first part of the third, they pushed hard enough to move our trap back into our zone (or we played further back for some unknown reason). But they couldn't sustain that push.
The Caps need to play the trap more than they have in the past because we are a weaker team defensively apparently. It's effective. It isn't flashy. Why Tampa isn't doing the same and letting us carry the puck into their zone, I have no idea.
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