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waynerivers:
--- Quote from: KitFisto on Saturday April 28, 2018, 09:57:37 AM Eastern ---
The flip side of that argument is that some of these players just needed the opportunity to be in a more prominent role to break out or others needed new scenery. No, one thought they'd be THIS good, but the writing was on the wall that they'd certainly be a competitive team unlike any other expansion team ever has been.
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Yes, but competitive and being a league power are two different things. Winning 35-40 games is competitive. As for guys just needing an opportunity or new scenery, that was my point. Vegas management saw something other teams missed and they took a chance on these guys. That's far different than having some pot of riches to dip into where you can make a powerhouse practically by accident. That's the suggestion which was being made here which I completely disagree with.
Mickstix:
They had to pick 1 player from each team and picked the best one available.. Seems pretty easy to me. The ones that took the chance were the teams who left player's with upside unprotected and coddled their "stars"...
DC_1908:
--- Quote from: KitFisto on Saturday April 28, 2018, 09:57:37 AM Eastern ---
The flip side of that argument is that some of these players just needed the opportunity to be in a more prominent role to break out or others needed new scenery. No, one thought they'd be THIS good, but the writing was on the wall that they'd certainly be a competitive team unlike any other expansion team ever has been.
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Yep no one anticipated they’d be this good because they thought they’d be picking the likes of Orpik because they protected Carlson and hoped they would ignore Schmidt.
So, he didn’t go through and just pick the “7th best” player on each team . . .
They thought competitive would be an all-star or two and a late playoff push, . , yet GMGM took every advantage and manipulated everyone to make a team of virtual unknowns and six alternate captains to make a serious cup threat. Not a contender, not a chance, but a “it’s damn near there’s to loose”.
Vegas picked the perfect GM for this, and least 28 other GMs would have been struggling to make the playoffs and/or in cap-hell next year and in the forseable future if they where in his place.
alta:
--- Quote from: DC_1908 on Saturday April 28, 2018, 07:35:53 PM Eastern ---Yep no one anticipated they’d be this good because they thought they’d be picking the likes of Orpik because they protected Carlson and hoped they would ignore Schmidt.
So, he didn’t go through and just pick the “7th best” player on each team . . .
They thought competitive would be an all-star or two and a late playoff push, . , yet GMGM took every advantage and manipulated everyone to make a team of virtual unknowns and six alternate captains to make a serious cup threat. Not a contender, not a chance, but a “it’s damn near there’s to loose”.
Vegas picked the perfect GM for this, and least 28 other GMs would have been struggling to make the playoffs and/or in cap-hell next year and in the forseable future if they where in his place.
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IMHO, I think you're giving GMGM just a bit too much credit, it was Bettman that pretty much handed Vegas a Cup with that stupid draft, teams should have been able to protect more than 10 players(12 would've been good), and I'm willing to bet that will be the case with the next expansion team
Maacoshark:
--- Quote from: alta on Saturday April 28, 2018, 08:06:07 PM Eastern ---
IMHO, I think you're giving GMGM just a bit too much credit, it was Bettman that pretty much handed Vegas a Cup with that stupid draft, teams should have been able to protect more than 10 players(12 would've been good), and I'm willing to bet that will be the case with the next expansion team
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I have to agree. There was too much talent made available.
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