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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #40 on: Monday February 27, 2023, 11:58:58 PM Eastern »
If they got Chychrun, they'd definitely have to plan on parting ways with Carlson at some point. I read that Carlson and Mantha are with the team on the road trip, so retirement seems unlikely. lol


Oshi would be prime to move if he didn't have 2 more years at 5.75m attached to him. Maybe someone would do it, but we'd probably be retaining salary and what not.


Kuzy we could move. They're scared to make a bold move like that though.


I'll be shocked if we get anything more than another 2nd/3rd round pick (for anyone) before the deadline.

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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 01:52:31 PM Eastern »
If they got Chychrun, they'd definitely have to plan on parting ways with Carlson at some point. I read that Carlson and Mantha are with the team on the road trip, so retirement seems unlikely. lol


Oshi would be prime to move if he didn't have 2 more years at 5.75m attached to him. Maybe someone would do it, but we'd probably be retaining salary and what not.


Kuzy we could move. They're scared to make a bold move like that though.


I'll be shocked if we get anything more than another 2nd/3rd round pick (for anyone) before the deadline.




The only way Oshie gets moved at this point is to a team who has to be concerned about the salary cap floor, not the upper limit. 


I think you're right about any possible additional moves -- a 3rd round pick (for a guy like Gustafson) is about the most we can expect, and for others like TVR you'd probably get a 4th/5th round pick.

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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 03:25:12 PM Eastern »
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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 04:42:52 PM Eastern »
Gustafsson and Boston's 1st round pick to Toronto for  D Rasmus Sandin
I know nothing about him, other than: Former 1st rounder, 22 years old, 5'11" 185lb. 1.4m salary through next year..


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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 05:04:40 PM Eastern »
just looking through a few things, team management knew they had 15 UFAs and two RFAs this season. That is a monumental cluster foxtrot of their own making.
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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 05:10:20 PM Eastern »
Yea, but anyone they trade (that's a UFA) they can probably get back in the offseason, if they "really" want to. Team has nothing going on this year, so might as well get some picks if we can.


I like the Sandin trade. Kid has potential and some term left. Is only 22. If they weren't gonna get Chychrun, this is a good alternative. 22 year old "nhl'rs" are hard to come by.

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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 05:19:50 PM Eastern »

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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 05:21:11 PM Eastern »
Rasmus Sandin:  Will turn 23 next week.  Played in 52 regular season games for Toronto so far this season, so fair to say he's basically been a full-time defenseman.  Generally has played 15-19 minutes per game, so not a first pairing defenseman; probably sort of a 2nd pair for Toronto.  BUT this may be his first full-time season, so not a surprise - maybe more of a surprise that he is at least marginally a top 4 defenseman at age 22.  5'11", 185 lbs., so a bit undersized, but interestingly, with Hathaway gone, he comes in as #3 on the Capitals in hits for the season, with 113, so he seems not to be afraid to mix it up a bit.  +/- of +10, for what that's worth. 


The Caps will have several years of control and reasonable cost containment over him, so there's that.

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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 05:22:43 PM Eastern »
Rasmus Sandin:  Will turn 23 next week.  Played in 52 regular season games for Toronto so far this season, so fair to say he's basically been a full-time defenseman.  Generally has played 15-19 minutes per game, so not a first pairing defenseman; probably sort of a 2nd pair for Toronto.  BUT this may be his first full-time season, so not a surprise - maybe more of a surprise that he is at least marginally a top 4 defenseman at age 22.  5'11", 185 lbs., so a bit undersized, but interestingly, with Hathaway gone, he comes in as #3 on the Capitals in hits for the season, with 113, so he seems not to be afraid to mix it up a bit.  +/- of +10, for what that's worth. 


The Caps will have several years of control and reasonable cost containment over him, so there's that.

I think he was third line pairing in Toronto.....
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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 05:23:58 PM Eastern »
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Yeah, I was disappointed to lose the pick that figured to be close to #32 in this year's draft, because I already knew who I wanted the Caps to select with that pick:  The #1 goalie in this year's draft, who doesn't figure to go in the first round, a huge, 6'6" 215 pound guy.


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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 05:26:54 PM Eastern »
I think he was third line pairing in Toronto.....




Well, it looks as though he has averaged about 17 minutes a game this season.  Looking at Toronto's defense, they really don't have big names, so maybe all their defensemen play similar minutes, instead of the top 4 logging heavier minutes and the bottom 2 lagging behind.

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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 05:44:08 PM Eastern »
So I read where he was on the outs in Toronto and now was going to be out of the lineup since they got McCabe.  He is an RFA at the end of next year, so I guess the Caps basically get only two years of control, then he's gone.  We basically traded Gus and Orlov (both UFAs) for two years of control on a guy that had worked his way to the bench in Toronto.   Seems like we could have gotten at least a second rounder for Gus.  Not sure I love this one.  If we are going to trade away picks and assets, we need to get guys back with term left on their contracts.

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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 07:21:02 PM Eastern »
Kuzy is out with non-covid flu...yeah it's called the "trade-flu)  :wackysmile:




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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 07:23:26 PM Eastern »
It would have been nice to get more for Gusty, but reality is...at the end of the season we were going to get nothing for him.
I afraid the Caps are going to dick around and keep Carlson and trade away Kuzy to dump salary.
Not that that is the end of the world, but Kuzy has some upside and supreme talent, just not the heart to go with it.  I think Carlson will just continue to decline and not only ride, but rather drive the suck bus into eternity
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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 08:03:01 PM Eastern »
So I read where he was on the outs in Toronto and now was going to be out of the lineup since they got McCabe.  He is an RFA at the end of next year, so I guess the Caps basically get only two years of control, then he's gone.  We basically traded Gus and Orlov (both UFAs) for two years of control on a guy that had worked his way to the bench in Toronto.   Seems like we could have gotten at least a second rounder for Gus.  Not sure I love this one.  If we are going to trade away picks and assets, we need to get guys back with term left on their contracts.


RFA's have some contract leverage, but they can't leave the organization directly.  So while the Caps may not have salary control, they do have control of his presence within the organization.  Some other team could present Sundin with an offer sheet after he becomes an RFA, but the Caps could match it -- and offer sheets for RFA's are so rare that it isn't a concern.

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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 10:15:49 PM Eastern »
Another overpay imo.. But, is what it is. I hope GMBM knows what he's doing.


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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 10:35:14 PM Eastern »
that’s a $1.5M a year raise
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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday February 28, 2023, 11:06:05 PM Eastern »
that’s a $1.5M a year raise


Yep. And for a 32 year old. Best thing about the deal is it's only 3 years. I "read" he was worth 5m on the market? lol I guess inflation is affecting pro sports salaries as well? Everyone we're extending is making about a million more than their worth, imo. Who knows, maybe the market has gone up more than I realize. I don't pay much attention to the rest of the league.

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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday March 01, 2023, 07:57:49 AM Eastern »
that’s a $1.5M a year raise


What 32-year-old got a $1.5 million raise?  I apparently am missing a resigning story here.

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Re: 2023 NHL trade deadline
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday March 01, 2023, 08:49:27 AM Eastern »

What 32-year-old got a $1.5 million raise?  I apparently am missing a resigning story here.


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