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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #20 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 12:08:28 AM Eastern »
Last summer Kovalchuk was going to return NHL,but his salary demands were high that’s why he still stays in khl,however as i know this upcoming summer he definitely wants to return NHL.
Samsonov is doing pretty well,he was voted as top young prospects in khl and won bronze medal during World Junior Championship in 2017 and would definitely create some competition in net ones he come  :thumbsup:

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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #21 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 12:46:39 AM Eastern »
Last summer Kovalchuk was going to return NHL,but his salary demands were high that’s why he still stays in khl,however as i know this upcoming summer he definitely wants to return NHL.
Samsonov is doing pretty well,he was voted as top young prospects in khl and won bronze medal during World Junior Championship in 2017 and would definitely create some competition in net ones he come  :thumbsup:


We wont be able to afford him (K)-any which ways.  :(
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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #22 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 12:52:25 AM Eastern »

We wont be able to afford him (K)-any which ways.  :(


Let’s see he wants new challenges,that’s why the possible move to Caps would fit well for him ;D

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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #23 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 12:55:18 AM Eastern »

Let’s see he wants new challenges,that’s why the possible move to Caps would fit well for him ;D


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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #24 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 12:57:31 AM Eastern »
Give it another season or two............ :raspberry:
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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #25 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 01:23:09 AM Eastern »
Just trying to stay optimistic whenever I watch Caps this season

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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #26 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 08:14:03 AM Eastern »
I think we can’t fully know how overall decisions were made and who is fully responsible for that,on the other hand I have some thoughts regarding following:


1) The decision to let some useful players go, for instance  Chimera,Green,Johansson was only matter if some hungry,hot prospects players were purchased.As we can see this season, the team performance became worse compare to last couple seasons.


2) In Addition, underperformance of Backstrom,Oshie,Holtby caused a team many points and it seems like right now they far from fix it.


3) Third,I didn’t get why caps didn’t improve their squad during this trading window,in fact for a couple of seasons they only purchase liabilities and  it tells me,that management team doesn’t understand what they are doing and how the team like Caps suppose to work on market.


4) Lastly, i do know khl market at least Caps can try to get Kovalchuk this summer who gonna be free agent.Moreover, there’s a 20 year old guy  Kiril Kaprizov who is gonna be next Kovalchuk or half of Ovi,I know he is already drafted by Minnesota ,however there’s always a chance to obtain better players.
While yes. we can’t fully know, but there’s enough data to hypothesize.


But for your first point, it’s not as much as the players perse, it’s the style that was used to replace them.  Cherie, Fehr, and Ward where big, physical 200 ft players that shut down lines, battle on the boards, and still commanded offensive respect.  However we’ve replaced them with softer offensive based players that have next to none of 2way physical strengths the previous did.   That was a direct descison on the ownership and management side.


Second, there’s little, if any, that can be done.  A new coach isn’t suddenly going to rejuvenate their attitude this year.  At worst it would lead a faux playoff run and playoff failure


Third, this an example of Dickless & BetaMale ineptitude.  They have been beaten in each trade deal, and signings.  Even if they where to admit their failure and move Kuzy, Oshie, Bura, Carlson etc., even a good GM would have a hard time getting the better end of the deal with those contracts.  But, I doubt trading these assets was even considered.  So it’s actually better that we made no trades until we get a GM that has the will and schrewdness to come out ahead.


And fourth, Kovolchuck would be something they would try to do and anything over the league monument would be utterly idiotic, so he could very well be here next year


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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #27 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 01:00:45 PM Eastern »
refresh my memory, isn't the reason teams put a player on waivers is to get rid of the cap hit?
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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #28 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 01:27:07 PM Eastern »
refresh my memory, isn't the reason teams put a player on waivers is to get rid of the cap hit?
If they are claimed they go off the salary cap.  If unclaimed they go to the AHL and I believe the full salary counts toward the salary cap

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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #29 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 05:56:13 PM Eastern »

Sickening thought of the day.. (Maybe a new thread topic? lol) 


Ok, sickening thought of the day: 3/1/2018 The Caps negotiate with Carlson but can't come to terms, so he walks and their backup plan is, non other than Gang Green!!!  :wackysmile: "Winning"  :poop: "Why are you guys down on Mike Green, he's the best Dman we have"  :O=

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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #30 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 06:00:14 PM Eastern »
Sickening thought of the day.. (Maybe a new thread topic? lol) 


Ok, sickening thought of the day: 3/1/2018 The Caps negotiate with Carlson but can't come to terms, so he walks and their backup plan is, non other than Gang Green!!!  :wackysmile: "Winning"  :poop:
Well if he played like he did Detroit and got him for about the same or not less it’s be deal. . .




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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #31 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 07:14:10 PM Eastern »

Well if he played like he did Detroit and got him for about the same or not less it’s be deal. . .


Hell yea! 5 x 8 should do it! Have him till he's 40! Sell the hell out of some Green 52 Jerseys!  :angel:

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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #32 on: Thursday March 01, 2018, 09:53:04 PM Eastern »
Well, if you want to talk about replacements for Carlson, in this year's UFA class there are only two -- and by replacements, I mean legitimate, experienced RH shooting defensemen.  There is a reason why RH defensemen are a red-hot commodity, and it will probably drive Carlson's price beyond what the Caps can afford.


One of the two is the aforementioned Mike Green.  The other?  Luke Schenn, a totally different player from Carlson.  NO offense, lots of hits, pretty good blocks, 28 years old, same as Carlson.  Likely won't get as much money as Carlson because of the lack of offense.


If Schenn could be gotten on the market for, say, a million dollars less than Carlson, do you make him a UFA focus and forget about Carlson?


Just as a further note, Pittsburgh, Philly, and NJD all lost in regulation tonight.  Another good night for the Caps, and the regular season is now 80% over.  It's going to be difficult for the Caps to miss the playoffs unless they collapse completely. 
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Re: Who Would You Keep??
« Reply #33 on: Friday March 02, 2018, 07:18:07 AM Eastern »
Well, if you want to talk about replacements for Carlson, in this year's UFA class there are only two -- and by replacements, I mean legitimate, experienced RH shooting defensemen.  There is a reason why RH defensemen are a red-hot commodity, and it will probably drive Carlson's price beyond what the Caps can afford.


One of the two is the aforementioned Mike Green.  The other?  Luke Schenn, a totally different player from Carlson.  NO offense, lots of hits, pretty good blocks, 28 years old, same as Carlson.  Likely won't get as much money as Carlson because of the lack of offense.


If Schenn could be gotten on the market for, say, a million dollars less than Carlson, do you make him a UFA focus and forget about Carlson?


Just as a further note, Pittsburgh, Philly, and NJD all lost in regulation tonight.  Another good night for the Caps, and the regular season is now 80% over.  It's going to be difficult for the Caps to miss the playoffs unless they collapse completely.
Great call on Schenn, but I doubt there’s any chance they’d get him let alone to replace Carlson.  It’s clear that they don’t want “Defenseman”, they want 4th Foward/Extra Attacker’s woth out pulling the goalie,


This one of the reasons I said Green was a better Defenseman than Carlson.  The Wings  5-5 system on the offensive zon has both D in the correct position above the slots, making short passes to forwards, and shooting when there’s a screen or a designed play, The pinching crap that our system and/or Carlson does wouldn’t be tolerated.  However Green has been executing this quite well w/o all the pinching crap showing he has improved to Dman with a shot of a forward.