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BlackIce:
I think at this point the Caps may start Grubauer in the playoffs, but ONLY if he returns in the next week and shows that despite whatever "tweak" he suffered he hasn't skipped a beat.


I'll suggest one benefit that there may be to having Grubauer start.  If Holtby starts the playoffs it might be awfully hard to pull him, because he's been The Man for the past 4 years and until last year had shown himself to be an all-time great playoff goalie, team lack of success aside.  If you are riding your horse, it's tempting to just "dance with who brung ya."  After all, who can fault sticking with your franchise goalie?  But if Grubauer starts in the playoffs and begins to show some cracks it's much easier to make the move, because after all, you'd have the franchise goalie as your fallback option.


I really don't buy Mick's argument that the goalies would be treated equivalently -- 1 loss and a switch is made either way.  I think pedigree means something, and because of that I think Holtby would get more rope, which I don't necessarily think is a good idea this season.

Mickstix:
If the playoff starter wins 2 in a row, they'll probably get a pass on a game 3 loss.. But lose game 1 or 2 and I think it'll spell a switch.. Place your bets!  :wackysmile:

DC_1908:

--- Quote from: Mickstix on Saturday March 31, 2018, 10:41:33 PM Eastern ---If the playoff starter wins 2 in a row, they'll probably get a pass on a game 3 loss.. But lose game 1 or 2 and I think it'll spell a switch.. Place your bets!  :wackysmile:

--- End quote ---
If they switch in round one, we’re done (well. . . That’ll be one reason).   The dramatic story of the backup of an elite goalie taking a team to a Cup, so rarely works it's basically a forfeit.


But, yes The Kool Aiders will be wanting to bench Holtby after he gives up a goal on a 4 -0 rush

DC_1908:
Like Quarterback and the Closer in baseball, fans tend to want to replace the starter when the backup does the good in the least, because to makes "a great story". . .not because its rational. They want this story so much, they begin to turn on the starter. 


Like the soccer-mom (and)/or 12yo wearing their #92 jersey who wants to pull Holtby after a goal, while ignoring, or more than likely oblivious to the fact that what lead to it was a dangling no look pass by Kuzy that went right to the other team that took it for a 3-0 as the D where behind the net. . .   At some point I wouldn't blame, and actually loved it if Holtby just moved aside and gave them an empty net.


The ONLY way this makes sense, is if Holtby has given up on this team, and wants out.  If thats the case, well need more than to hope Grubby can start.

IDontGiveaChuk:
A few thoughts..

First, isn't he a bit of an overachiever to begin with? I'm not saying this would mean he is unable to continue to be but maybe his best days are almost behind him? Could it be that even he realizes this?

Maybe he is tired of all his underachieving teammates? As someone who plays most nights and gives his all, he has to be somewhat frustrated at times by his teams inability to get to the next level - which he has been able to do.

Maybe the Emery beatdown years ago where none of his teammates came to his defense is still in his head? Why continue to put yourself on the line for guys who don't do the same?

Consistency has been a problem for him. He has a REAL good year and then a bad year, seemingly. And as pointed out by someone else, players have ups and downs and the team has played very poorly in front of him at times. But still, the team needs to have confidence in him when he is in net and I wonder if the team has more confidence with Gruby behind them right now.

With Samsonov probably a year or two away from being nhl ready, maybe the team is nearing a window of opportunity where it makes sense to explore Holtby's trade value.

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